@hakc97isback I have some footage from Westminster subsurface before it was rebuilt, plus at Straford some still images of the low level platforms which dates back to DMU days (the platforms which became North London Line and nowadays are used by the DLR on the Stratford International route).
@likeplaneboy the short answer is that the trains on the Bakerloo and District Lines which share tracks with mainline railway electric trains have been designed to be able to cope with the higher voltages.
As a kid growing up in Harrow in the early '80s, I was always fascinated by the air of decay on this line; boarded-up station buildings and rusting ironwork - in those days, my London Transport season ticket did not allow travel on British Rail suburban services, so Saturday afternoon adventures between Queens Park and Euston or Broad Street on the Cl 501s had to be done furtively peering out of the tall windows from the deep cigarette-burned upholstery; sinister but compelling times...
Great video. Is the current fleet of Bakerloo stock slated for replacement anytime soon (with, say the S stock)? I like how at the end, the announcements keep going, even after the train has left the station!
The S Stock is for the sub-surface lines which use trains that are 'mainline railway' in size, so therefore would not be suitable for the Bakerloo, which is a small profile 'tube' line.
New trains for the Bakerloo are being discussed, these will be of a new walk-through design. But it will be a few years before we see them - that is if they can be afforded and imminent global monetary & global geophysical events are not too severe (the next 6 months will make or break).
@spartan117ism The LNWR encouraged the BS&WR to link into it at Queens Park (even helped them financially) as that way they only needed 2 platforms at Euston - instead of having to build a subterranean loop.
NB: LNWR = London and North Western Railway, who built the line.
BS&WR = Baker Street and Waterloo Railway, nowadays known as the Bakerloo Line.
re: the announcements, these are probably computer compilations of words (station names etc). If you listen to the message for the train terminating at Stonebridge Park you will note how the voice sounds as if it was spoken at a different time.
But yes, the word 'and' could have been programmed in as well.
@f1baker Thats right, during the Silverlink era they also used some 508's on this route, as this route does not need trains which are capable of travelling on ac overhead wire power.
In theory the ELL's 'dc-only' 378's could also operate on this route, however since the most of the NLL now uses overhead wires so they would need 'dragging' to reach this line.
Many years ago when filming at Highbury & Islington I met some police officers at the station who did not object to my using a camcorder. A short while later however a station official 'caught' me and took me to see the station manager - who told me that 'under no circumstances' was I to video at his station. The same police officers were also in the room & they did not tell the station manager what I had been doing.
btw, the H&I film will be on YouTube before Elenin passes by.
Do you have contrasts of stations before, during and after the Jubilee Line extension?
hakc97isback 3 months ago
@hakc97isback I have some footage from Westminster subsurface before it was rebuilt, plus at Straford some still images of the low level platforms which dates back to DMU days (the platforms which became North London Line and nowadays are used by the DLR on the Stratford International route).
Thats about all, however.
Simon
citytransportinfo 3 months ago
the lu is 610 dc and the lo is 750 dc, so, how can they share tracks? please reply quick as i will be going to melbourne and l will not have wifi.
likeplaneboy 4 months ago
@likeplaneboy the short answer is that the trains on the Bakerloo and District Lines which share tracks with mainline railway electric trains have been designed to be able to cope with the higher voltages.
Simon
citytransportinfo 4 months ago
In 1990 they just started the refurbishment programme of the 1972 MKII stock.
MrGriser 6 months ago
As a kid growing up in Harrow in the early '80s, I was always fascinated by the air of decay on this line; boarded-up station buildings and rusting ironwork - in those days, my London Transport season ticket did not allow travel on British Rail suburban services, so Saturday afternoon adventures between Queens Park and Euston or Broad Street on the Cl 501s had to be done furtively peering out of the tall windows from the deep cigarette-burned upholstery; sinister but compelling times...
alibootboy 7 months ago
Great video. Is the current fleet of Bakerloo stock slated for replacement anytime soon (with, say the S stock)? I like how at the end, the announcements keep going, even after the train has left the station!
JeffOrnstein01 7 months ago
Thanks Jeff.
The S Stock is for the sub-surface lines which use trains that are 'mainline railway' in size, so therefore would not be suitable for the Bakerloo, which is a small profile 'tube' line.
New trains for the Bakerloo are being discussed, these will be of a new walk-through design. But it will be a few years before we see them - that is if they can be afforded and imminent global monetary & global geophysical events are not too severe (the next 6 months will make or break).
citytransportinfo 7 months ago
@citytransportinfo How come National rail services share tracks with LU
spartan117ism 7 months ago
@spartan117ism The LNWR encouraged the BS&WR to link into it at Queens Park (even helped them financially) as that way they only needed 2 platforms at Euston - instead of having to build a subterranean loop.
NB: LNWR = London and North Western Railway, who built the line.
BS&WR = Baker Street and Waterloo Railway, nowadays known as the Bakerloo Line.
Simon
citytransportinfo 7 months ago
Good I subbed will you sub back thanks
Grandcentraltrainuk 7 months ago
Great video.
Bahnchef1994 7 months ago
Great vid. The LO PAs are odd, I mean is it such a problem to say ''AND London Euston'' or ''AND Watford Junction'' its basic primary school stuff!
simpletimes222 7 months ago
@simpletimes222 Thanks.
re: the announcements, these are probably computer compilations of words (station names etc). If you listen to the message for the train terminating at Stonebridge Park you will note how the voice sounds as if it was spoken at a different time.
But yes, the word 'and' could have been programmed in as well.
Simon
citytransportinfo 7 months ago
I remember seeing class 508s as well as 313s operating the watford to euston service...
f1baker 7 months ago
@f1baker Thats right, during the Silverlink era they also used some 508's on this route, as this route does not need trains which are capable of travelling on ac overhead wire power.
In theory the ELL's 'dc-only' 378's could also operate on this route, however since the most of the NLL now uses overhead wires so they would need 'dragging' to reach this line.
Simon
citytransportinfo 7 months ago
I hope the police wasn´t coming for you...
Klingl3r 7 months ago
LOL!
Many years ago when filming at Highbury & Islington I met some police officers at the station who did not object to my using a camcorder. A short while later however a station official 'caught' me and took me to see the station manager - who told me that 'under no circumstances' was I to video at his station. The same police officers were also in the room & they did not tell the station manager what I had been doing.
btw, the H&I film will be on YouTube before Elenin passes by.
citytransportinfo 7 months ago
@citytransportinfo Then you had luck....
I don´t know the laws in UK, but what rights does station staff have? If they can take you to the station manager...
Klingl3r 7 months ago
Great footage! It's nice to see a bit of how it was 20+ years ago. I actually felt very nostalgic, even if I'm from 1992... :]
guganotubo 7 months ago
@guganotubo
so some of this footage is older than you!
;-)
Simon
citytransportinfo 7 months ago