Warcraft II came out 4 years before Starcraft so you can't compare them really. Both were epic and if you were cool enough to play one you absolutely played the other.
Personally, I don't really care how popular War III and WoW are.
I was still little when I saw Warcraft I, and loved it when I got to own the sequel instead of just borrowing like with the first game (never did get to play War I all the way through). The Pre-WarIII atmosphere, music, art-style, and lore will always stick in my head as being somehow...very different from later Warcraft, which feels almost like a different world.
Btw, the old Elven Archers/Rangers were AWESOME. "By your command!"
I must say if wc2 is at all similar to wc3 and actually almost every rts ever, you are one of the worst players Ive ever seen lol. But the fact you put the video up for posterity and gave a link to download it partly redeems the immense nubworthiness.
Reason why people say it's better than W3, cause it was like most RTS at the time, like Command & Conquer, and C&C: Red Alert, and also Age of Empries, there all great games which i loved and played, so you can see why other people would love this cause it's got a old feeling to it, then knew W3
man, this came out in 1995, and age of empires I came out in 1997... that means... blizzard is better than ensemble studios... but i think age of empires II is better than wc3
Warcraft 2 got me addicted to the WC Lore when I was 5 years old. WC2 Is such an awesome game. Really great game back in the day. My sister and I would play agents the max amount of computers after school. Ahhh good times :)
this is not the first level.. i dont know what this is!!!! that IS NOT where the gold mine should be and you DO NOT start with an archer in the first level!! WHATS GOING ON?!!?!? can some1 pls explain this to me?
@shane87smith Not to mention having an elven archers before the second mission.This clearly is NOT first or any kind of a level in any of the Warcraft series.
@shane87smith It's the demo version, with only three levels I think, so They shrink the early game a little bit so that you at least got one destroy base mission.
lol if i recall.. level one for humans your got 3 footman and were only able to make a barraks, farms, and town halls. Not elven archers and lumber mills...
My point was that I was making fun of the idiots complaining about the graphics of a 15 year old game. However, seeing as most people that post on youtube are complete idiots like you guys, a lot of people took it seriously. Look up irony so you won't look like a moron next time.
@N4ll1fy i agree. You have to be a complete and utter idiot to not realise that its a 15 year old game when graphics were all mainly 2d no models are gonna have what today is shit grapics. I think C@C or WC3 were the first RTS's to resemble 3d graphics
Heroes, night elves and undeads came in 3? The games i played when i was little were SC, Age of Empires, NFS:HP3 and Red Alert. I actually got to know about this game when WC3 came out.
@Andriaccini sorry to late reply, but are you sure this doesent work at vista? i mean...i have vista and this game works, altough i have bnet edition, still it works and thats all what matters
@eatmygritsnow Wow no the first WARCRAFT was made in 94 you noob.. starcraft came out in 98 (i know, i got it the week it came out cause it came out a day after my birthday xD)
@Akanemage Lol screw ipod , compare ff13 to this...while you're at it. But let's compare old rts to rts nowadays. Why not compare them to two blizzard games. Go look at SC2 graphics and now this xD
@noobysoup i so agree with u really. in my opinion 3 sucks its not as good as warcarft 1 or 2 . warcraft 3 isnt like 1 or 2 where there is only humans and orcs.
Warcraft 3 Produced one of the best editors i've ever had the pleasure of working with... It was Fast, Easy, and Effective... Even better then the Starcraft 2's in my opinion.
Wereas...
Warcraft 2 was very much so ahead of it's time for a RTS... And without this blizzard wouldn't have WoW nor Warcraft 3, this was the spark that started it all (Lets face it, Wc1 wasn't half as good.)
@wertyuil1 Well theres quite a few reasons, actually. (These might be quite a few comments)
Firstly, the map editor in warcraft 3 is much simpler which might not sound like alot but it is. I've used quite a few editors and still haven't grasped majority of the SC2 editor. You might think this makes the Starcraft 2 editor better, well it doesn't and i'll explain why in detail.
Majority of the things you can do in Starcraft 2's editor is doable in Warcraft 3's editor
@wertyuil1 And can be done easier for the most part, sure theres the fancy new UI elements... But honestly, they're not really necessary and with quite a bit of work you can easily produce a simple UI using JASS.
Secondly, much like I said above... It over complicates even the most trivial of things...
How long does it take me to create a single Warcraft 3 Hero (Minus abilities)? 1 or 2 minutes.
How long does it take me to create a single Starcraft 2 Hero? roughly about 7 or 8
@wertyuil1 minutes, and theres really no benefit to doing it honestly. Starcraft 2 advertised having support for custom stats, while its true they did, its sloppy as hell. You can have a maximum of 4 stats on display at anytime before the rest of the stats are invisible hidden beneath the UI.
Not to mention all the extra work that goes into making heroes even possible and its still emulated sloppier. And lets face it, majority of maps use Heroes in some way or form.
@wertyuil1 thirdly starcraft 2 has a SERIOUS lack of resources right now, although this really isnt the editors fault, it's worth mentioning. Over the years Warcraft 3 has amassed quite a few resources, branching off from the default resources. Hell, theres even Starcraft models made for Warcraft 3.
Fourthly, i'll explain even more about the hero "support"... The inventory system is the sloppiest thing i've ever seen. Ever. Theres mods on Warcraft 3 that use better inventory systems
@wertyuil1 made by using JASS, and thats rather sad honestly. (For an example see TKoK or The Kingdom of Kalron)
the final issue I have for it includes a flaw with starcraft 2 the actual game.
Obscure maps are hidden into obscurity forever. This is a HUGE problem, quite a few of the best maps on warcraft 3 was obscure at some point or are still obscure. The popularity system and the way the servers always host every map flood out the obscurities.
@wertyuil1 only a set amount of games being hosted every hour so the chance of finding an obscure (but still good) map wasnt half as rare as it is in starcraft 2.
And thats my thoughts on it, went on for quite a while there hopefully that clarifies why I personally prefer the World Editor over the Galaxy Editor.
Don't get me wrong, Starcraft 2 is still a good game. But honestly, the editor is a step backwards in my honest of opinions.
Warcraft II came out 4 years before Starcraft so you can't compare them really. Both were epic and if you were cool enough to play one you absolutely played the other.
ajroy03 3 days ago
and starcraft 1 of course is super
TheExitt 6 days ago
Warcraft 2 and all Starcraft 2 is FTW!! But Warcraft 3 is one of the biggest fails :)
TheExitt 6 days ago
Its like Age of Empires I
Darkos169 1 week ago
my best favorite game
xion61 1 week ago
holy shit, i never play this game, but for my times warcraft 3 is old.
TheDead49 1 week ago
i want to eat the barracks
StyleMethod91 2 weeks ago
This is back from when warcraft was a quality serious franchise and blizzard an honest dedicated company...unlike now
sergius666 3 weeks ago
26 people where orcs :)
hvemaddi 1 month ago
Fuck world of warcraft, I'm playing this masterpiece!
Avizura 1 month ago
I don't remember the music sounding so...digital. Ha, this is great!
RyeGuyDead 1 month ago 2
<3 gawwwd everyone so sexy :P addictive <3
mynamenur 1 month ago
One of the best games online! and will always be!
LastStand12345 1 month ago
it's a good day to die
vincentpol 2 months ago
That game looks awesome lol you guys know were i can get it?
Inviciblehorse 4 months ago
@Inviciblehorse
Really? This game was released in 1995. You can find the disk online, or you get go to server.war2.ru
I have both versions.
SnowfireGames 2 months ago
UTTER AND PURE NOSTALGIA!
Angeldustification 4 months ago
damn. so many memories. apparently i would cry to my dad whenever the computer beat me.
NickBigsmoke 4 months ago
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maybe, this guy has a broken right click button;..
gelmvy1226 4 months ago
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gelmvy1226 4 months ago
god this brings back memories
mgs4GOTPoldsnake 5 months ago 14
Personally, I don't really care how popular War III and WoW are.
I was still little when I saw Warcraft I, and loved it when I got to own the sequel instead of just borrowing like with the first game (never did get to play War I all the way through). The Pre-WarIII atmosphere, music, art-style, and lore will always stick in my head as being somehow...very different from later Warcraft, which feels almost like a different world.
Btw, the old Elven Archers/Rangers were AWESOME. "By your command!"
xNocturnalKnightx 5 months ago
@xNocturnalKnightx War 3 was still good in my opinion, WoW kinda ruined it in my opinion
HitmanJenkins1 2 months ago
I had this game for psx, awh, the good times, when the games were good and hard.
ToPZero94 6 months ago
Were can i buy it ??
rareu4532 6 months ago
@rareu4532 Buy it online.
Pawnbroker00 6 months ago
In front of the computer screen, nothing felt better than clicking this game's menu buttons to start the game...
SerhatKBD 6 months ago
anybody else find this quite peaceful to watch this guy click move all the time? :) it seems to calm me.
welcometosnellcast 6 months ago
i downloaded it yesterday and first lvl i tok my guard and kill all the orces
thelastair1 6 months ago
id still play this over Sc2 anyday..
florastacey9229 6 months ago
There is a huge enchancement graphics and gameplay wise in the second game, even though there was only one year between them.
Veggis92 6 months ago
I think a lot of commenters are people who are not old enough to realize the epicness of Warcraft 2 when it came out :)
ScireSpire 6 months ago 6
warcraft 2 is the best of the series.
soupdexter1 7 months ago
the setting for wc2 was sum wat cheesy n a novelty but never the less still a great game wc3 was just epic
SoundwaveSuperior373 7 months ago
This must be a ripped version. No voice in the briefing, midi music in levels.. yea, sure it must be.
skaruts 8 months ago
old school
someguy111222 8 months ago
>x) Best music xD
Vesemir520Cz 9 months ago
<3 music
DjAlexMetall 9 months ago
my first pc game :P
blarbabar 10 months ago
My best mate had this and I wanted it so badly I was there every day ^^
emptyclubs 10 months ago
^^ this is not the real music but a MIDI version !
Informatisse 10 months ago
I must say if wc2 is at all similar to wc3 and actually almost every rts ever, you are one of the worst players Ive ever seen lol. But the fact you put the video up for posterity and gave a link to download it partly redeems the immense nubworthiness.
TheJunglesound 11 months ago
OMG, he managed to lose a footman at that mission D:
YRAntiNoob 11 months ago
The graphics are so much better than sc2
Graham6762 11 months ago 2
thx mate
MechaMachineHawk 11 months ago
Haha, oh i love how he clicks move hahaha
AwsmPntsAlchmst 11 months ago
Wow nostalgia :)
fetor41 11 months ago
How sad is it that I know this is the demo's opening mission?
ArthasvsLeon 11 months ago
@ArthasvsLeon don;t worry, I noticed it too
kazemizu 7 months ago
i mis the old game
oohzolastig 1 year ago
Nostalgia has just taken over my soul.
Snoofalah 1 year ago
warcraft 2 was the very spark that actually made blizzard well know.
darkmankill1 1 year ago
yeah the first real game i ever played...
MaxVerhaag 1 year ago
LOL! Polyphone music! :D
RoDJ99 1 year ago
looking this video was waste of my time...
TheChrasse 1 year ago
glittering prizes!!!!hahahaha!death coil FTw!!!!
JediDigicore 1 year ago
*Wood chop sounds*
Devos154 1 year ago
I want this game!!!!
Privfootman 1 year ago
lol, i dont wanna play warcraft 2 i think...its graphycs are sooo shitty, i understand that for that time they were good, but looking now.....EWWWWW
sorry, i know it's a good game and ill prolly play it for the campaign
shadehealer 1 year ago
we are under attack! At once sir! sounds like we are under attack for once sir :D
shadehealer 1 year ago
so i tried to download this from ur website but it said i need 32 bit- is there anyway possible i can play this on a 64 bit??????????????
willmo42 1 year ago
THIS SONG IS NOSTALGIA DAMNIT!! I USED TO PLAY THIS WHEN I WAS 5!
i want to go back to that time...
masterluuk4 1 year ago
OMG I FOUND THE VIDEO IVE BEEN SEARCHING FOR THIS WHOLE DAY!
Rofl cool man
NewZealandBoi11 1 year ago
warcraft 3 came after this??? DAAAYYYUUMMMM
doomedsnickers131 1 year ago
epic music!
RiseofBane 1 year ago
buen video
vivaelbananaero 1 year ago
that music drives me crazy
lankieSL 1 year ago
@lankieSL dont sorry it gets better when its not in demo mode =x
FrykillerHoNn 11 months ago
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I remember the old times when I was playing warcraft 2 those they were good times now in the warcraft 3 what a pity what did not extract 4
selfbrocman 1 year ago
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selfbrocman 1 year ago
glittering prizes!
it is a good day to die!
hatchet!
bf2142001 1 year ago
use the hotkeys!
bf2142001 1 year ago
this was made like civcity hahah
TaylorLautnerrxoxo 1 year ago
reminds of the age of empires games sorta
TheNightridr 1 year ago
dude you midi sound settings sucks
arono7 1 year ago
The graphics are fucking amaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaazing!
fyourcouchnigga 1 year ago
is the warcraft 2 on that site in the description a demo or the real thing?
marcusanddoom 1 year ago
Reason why people say it's better than W3, cause it was like most RTS at the time, like Command & Conquer, and C&C: Red Alert, and also Age of Empries, there all great games which i loved and played, so you can see why other people would love this cause it's got a old feeling to it, then knew W3
Basilbits26 1 year ago
@Basilbits26 I agree with you sir...you pretty much spoke my mind in regards to the wonderful classics that you mentioned.
Noah837 1 year ago
apm - 1
Kazikox 1 year ago
you know you can move with right click, you don't have to hit move a ton of times
fantasycoproduction 1 year ago 56
@fantasycoproduction god I saw that, I was like, is he really clicking move? I thought he was setting the unit to patrol at first
KoolDudester 1 year ago
@Jboye1234 if you still have the cd key you can use a virtual image mounter and get an iso, then mount it to a virtual drive and install it
don't worry, its legal if you have the cd key
HOPE I HELPED!!!
fantasycoproduction 1 year ago
the music is just awesome
eleetblessyou 1 year ago
where are your 300 force 100 dwarfs that is why i play warcraft 3
DarthYodaDenny 1 year ago
I personally love wc3... the editor is amazing! and the music is amazing!
gruntshunts123 1 year ago
man, this came out in 1995, and age of empires I came out in 1997... that means... blizzard is better than ensemble studios... but i think age of empires II is better than wc3
OmaRoS0 1 year ago
wow, the good times of the old blizzard.
In that time Blizzard have a nice community.
RavenBeastBoy 1 year ago
Awesome game and great music!!
Avenger7x 1 year ago
Warcraft 2 got me addicted to the WC Lore when I was 5 years old. WC2 Is such an awesome game. Really great game back in the day. My sister and I would play agents the max amount of computers after school. Ahhh good times :)
blackjoker12 1 year ago
this is not the first level.. i dont know what this is!!!! that IS NOT where the gold mine should be and you DO NOT start with an archer in the first level!! WHATS GOING ON?!!?!? can some1 pls explain this to me?
shane87smith 1 year ago
@shane87smith Not to mention having an elven archers before the second mission.This clearly is NOT first or any kind of a level in any of the Warcraft series.
cyberdaemon 1 year ago
@shane87smith It's the demo version, with only three levels I think, so They shrink the early game a little bit so that you at least got one destroy base mission.
weeecrap 1 year ago
@weeecrap ahhh i see well that does make sense then. thank you for clearing that up for me.
shane87smith 1 year ago
@shane87smith dude its the demo.. not actual game
FrykillerHoNn 11 months ago
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shane87smith 1 year ago
the peasants are so much friendly in wc 2 :P
Proudcanadian21 1 year ago
this was the best and to me its still one of the best games ever made
mordeth86 1 year ago
i prefered elven archer to rifle man....
soulridder 1 year ago
Starcraft was made 3 years after this and is 3257483092759023 times better :)
INFERNO120945 1 year ago
lol if i recall.. level one for humans your got 3 footman and were only able to make a barraks, farms, and town halls. Not elven archers and lumber mills...
Morroku3 1 year ago
@Morroku3 yes, elven alliance was secured in one of the following missions.
abominacije 1 year ago
@abominacije In a second mission you go and rescue them, just like in Orc mission 2 you go and rescue trolls and Zuljin.
cyberdaemon 1 year ago
can you still buy warcraft 2 in the stores??
yowowdeath 1 year ago
@yowowdeath actually i think so, they have a new battlenet versoin that works alright on newer computers
Gunnyster 1 year ago
@yowowdeath wtf its 2010 no you cant
ridely700 1 year ago
@ridely700 In fact you can. Well, I know Wal-Mart at least has the three pack with I, II, and III for like $40.
300Z31 1 year ago
@300Z31 Is it the Battlechest? I thought it only had WCIII and The Expansion.
LOLlhuntsman 1 year ago
@LOLlhuntsman The one I saw at Wal-Mart had all three games. WCI, II, and, III.
300Z31 1 year ago
@300Z31 Maybe the one I saw has it, but only has a little picture of it on the back, in the corner.
LOLlhuntsman 1 year ago
How do you get warcraft 2 working on your computer now days? :S
Verickka 1 year ago
luls @ the shitty music
speedybastard2 1 year ago
the good old warcraft 2 :D
Milzililili99 1 year ago
I remember this game when it came back, I loved it, much better than w3
insertaccname 1 year ago
dam so boring watch a noob play... good game tho
skaterockerloc 1 year ago
was the oil resource used for your navy?
cant remember that far back...
xplodetrain 1 year ago
player is retarded?
Philly2002 1 year ago
MY IPOD HAS BETTER GRAPX LOEL
Idiots.
N4ll1fy 1 year ago
@N4ll1fy you must be 10 years old...
Mcyoussef 1 year ago
@Mcyoussef You clearly have not yet grasped the concept of sarcasm..
milliondollarniki 1 year ago
@N4ll1fy and your point is?...
TiggyReece 1 year ago
@TiggyReece
My point was that I was making fun of the idiots complaining about the graphics of a 15 year old game. However, seeing as most people that post on youtube are complete idiots like you guys, a lot of people took it seriously. Look up irony so you won't look like a moron next time.
N4ll1fy 1 year ago
@N4ll1fy ok i apologise for been an idiot.
TiggyReece 1 year ago
@N4ll1fy i agree. You have to be a complete and utter idiot to not realise that its a 15 year old game when graphics were all mainly 2d no models are gonna have what today is shit grapics. I think C@C or WC3 were the first RTS's to resemble 3d graphics
Darien500 1 year ago
this was my favorite warcraft game!
Carsf100 1 year ago
the midi music rocks proper hard
landslide85 1 year ago
Too bad you can't contract a lot of the fighting work to heroes and adventurers...oh wait, wrong game lol
Agent1W 1 year ago
Heroes, night elves and undeads came in 3? The games i played when i was little were SC, Age of Empires, NFS:HP3 and Red Alert. I actually got to know about this game when WC3 came out.
TheSiiliOnu 1 year ago
hey how do i play the game i have done the setup but what now can you tell me please?
jeanpaulagumon13 1 year ago
i will never forget the footmans voice... he sounds like such a dick.
gabba1gabba1hey 1 year ago
It's sad that this was allowed to turn into WoW and steal all my gamer friends :(
EliteDoomer 1 year ago
its cool when they release Warcraft 1 & 2 on psp but the gameplay looks like the gameplay on PC it'll pwn on psp =)
cf1613 1 year ago
nice graphics
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MihayRosu 1 year ago
there is something wrong in level 1 of the human campaign, there should be no elven archers and you cannot construct elven mills lol
stickerhppy 1 year ago
btw, haven't the guy whos playing heard of right-klicking?
popeyeshemmasving 1 year ago
those who made warcraft got millions!!!!
MultiShark33 1 year ago
lol....i remember my brother and i first bought this game 5 years ago at Dollar Tree......
ImStillFlyinHigher 1 year ago
i still remeber play the shit out of this game when it first came out :D
zecocolt 1 year ago
F*cking good times when I played this...too bad this doesn't work on Vista...
Andriaccini 1 year ago
@Andriaccini It is called "Service Pack"...
TheNoobsWay 1 year ago
@Andriaccini sorry to late reply, but are you sure this doesent work at vista? i mean...i have vista and this game works, altough i have bnet edition, still it works and thats all what matters
gronndar 1 year ago
Where did you download this? If I try to run it it says: ''This program is not compatible with current operating system''.
Andriaccini 1 year ago
just bought it from store few months ago, it cost 2 € so obviously i didn't download it
gronndar 1 year ago
Lol the first Starcraft was 1998, all you have to do is check Wikipedia or something before arrogantly stating wrong facts.
AgoIterum 1 year ago
argh i can't play this in w7 64 bit? :'(
Lm3ntz 1 year ago
Grab DOSbox, and run it as admin :) I have 64 bit w7, and the first game seems to run fine.
noxaeterna25 1 year ago
I still ahve the CD but no CD key.. the game brochure is gone (stupid brothers)
ShadowHeartsFlight07 1 year ago
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wow this game was made after starcraft to..wow lol
eatmygritsnow 1 year ago
@eatmygritsnow no.....this game was made in 1995 starcraft was made in 1998
dakarus 1 year ago 2
@dakarus um no thats the expansion. the fist starcraft was 94
eatmygritsnow 1 year ago
@eatmygritsnow Wow no the first WARCRAFT was made in 94 you noob.. starcraft came out in 98 (i know, i got it the week it came out cause it came out a day after my birthday xD)
ffhk1 1 year ago
hmm reminds me of age of empires 1 xD
HaloFikus 1 year ago
OMG he receives 100 gold for each bag xD
ArmsmanX 1 year ago
I actually like the gameplay of war 1 and war 2 more than war 3
noobysoup 2 years ago 24
@noobysoup yeah but the graphic sucks ass
Akanemage 1 year ago
@Akanemage I agree i liked sc more than wc2
noobysoup 1 year ago
@noobysoup well theres a big graphic different between wc2 and wc3 i cant even think of it damn today i pod got better graphics
Akanemage 1 year ago
@Akanemage Lol screw ipod , compare ff13 to this...while you're at it. But let's compare old rts to rts nowadays. Why not compare them to two blizzard games. Go look at SC2 graphics and now this xD
noobysoup 1 year ago
@noobysoup yeah but think of its size^^
Akanemage 1 year ago
@noobysoup i so agree with u really. in my opinion 3 sucks its not as good as warcarft 1 or 2 . warcraft 3 isnt like 1 or 2 where there is only humans and orcs.
casboi 1 year ago
@noobysoup O.o why?
DestroyerOx 1 year ago
@noobysoup i actually think war 2 looks better than any other
TiggyReece 1 year ago
@noobysoup Mate, i agree for WC2 but i HATE WC1 controls!
Baracuda1337 1 year ago
@noobysoup me too i wish there was a mod where War3 would be more RTS like instead of Rtsrpg
shadowtygo 1 year ago
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this game is terrible
ShockinglyRelaxing 2 years ago
This game is old.. and it was AWESOME.. you are terrible nab
juuzo89 2 years ago 6
compare it to warcraft 3 and you will see. warcraft 3 and tft are the best warcraft games
ShockinglyRelaxing 1 year ago
Compare the relase year with game quality and this game is like 100 times better than WC 3 or TFT
juuzo89 1 year ago 14
I didn't say i hate this game i am addicted to wc3 and tft but this game is not that good
ShockinglyRelaxing 1 year ago
@juuzo89 True but graphic is better in wc 3 and TFT
Aleksandaraadm 1 year ago
@juuzo89 Not necessarily
They're both good games in their own respects...
Warcraft 3 Produced one of the best editors i've ever had the pleasure of working with... It was Fast, Easy, and Effective... Even better then the Starcraft 2's in my opinion.
Wereas...
Warcraft 2 was very much so ahead of it's time for a RTS... And without this blizzard wouldn't have WoW nor Warcraft 3, this was the spark that started it all (Lets face it, Wc1 wasn't half as good.)
Shaeam 1 year ago 35
@Shaeam its esier to work with the sc 1 editor but thats my option
horiahunter 1 year ago
@Shaeam yeah i gues you are right ;(
jan12ka12 1 year ago
@Shaeam why do you think its better than sc 2's?
im not starting an argument i just wanna know
wertyuil1 2 weeks ago
@wertyuil1 Well theres quite a few reasons, actually. (These might be quite a few comments)
Firstly, the map editor in warcraft 3 is much simpler which might not sound like alot but it is. I've used quite a few editors and still haven't grasped majority of the SC2 editor. You might think this makes the Starcraft 2 editor better, well it doesn't and i'll explain why in detail.
Majority of the things you can do in Starcraft 2's editor is doable in Warcraft 3's editor
Shaeam 2 weeks ago
@wertyuil1 And can be done easier for the most part, sure theres the fancy new UI elements... But honestly, they're not really necessary and with quite a bit of work you can easily produce a simple UI using JASS.
Secondly, much like I said above... It over complicates even the most trivial of things...
How long does it take me to create a single Warcraft 3 Hero (Minus abilities)? 1 or 2 minutes.
How long does it take me to create a single Starcraft 2 Hero? roughly about 7 or 8
Shaeam 2 weeks ago
@wertyuil1 minutes, and theres really no benefit to doing it honestly. Starcraft 2 advertised having support for custom stats, while its true they did, its sloppy as hell. You can have a maximum of 4 stats on display at anytime before the rest of the stats are invisible hidden beneath the UI.
Not to mention all the extra work that goes into making heroes even possible and its still emulated sloppier. And lets face it, majority of maps use Heroes in some way or form.
Shaeam 2 weeks ago
@wertyuil1 thirdly starcraft 2 has a SERIOUS lack of resources right now, although this really isnt the editors fault, it's worth mentioning. Over the years Warcraft 3 has amassed quite a few resources, branching off from the default resources. Hell, theres even Starcraft models made for Warcraft 3.
Fourthly, i'll explain even more about the hero "support"... The inventory system is the sloppiest thing i've ever seen. Ever. Theres mods on Warcraft 3 that use better inventory systems
Shaeam 2 weeks ago
@wertyuil1 made by using JASS, and thats rather sad honestly. (For an example see TKoK or The Kingdom of Kalron)
the final issue I have for it includes a flaw with starcraft 2 the actual game.
Obscure maps are hidden into obscurity forever. This is a HUGE problem, quite a few of the best maps on warcraft 3 was obscure at some point or are still obscure. The popularity system and the way the servers always host every map flood out the obscurities.
At least in Warcraft 3 there was
Shaeam 2 weeks ago
@wertyuil1 only a set amount of games being hosted every hour so the chance of finding an obscure (but still good) map wasnt half as rare as it is in starcraft 2.
And thats my thoughts on it, went on for quite a while there hopefully that clarifies why I personally prefer the World Editor over the Galaxy Editor.
Don't get me wrong, Starcraft 2 is still a good game. But honestly, the editor is a step backwards in my honest of opinions.
Shaeam 2 weeks ago