It is hard to compare a dictator style governed country with a country like the Philippines, where we vote Presidents who sometimes were corrupt. It is a very small country, the Philippines is bigger and more people. I was there before the high rises, that time there were still old houses but probably by now it was torn down and the people live in boring high rises (cause of numerous suicides, no news bec. it is bad for the image), Can't chew gum, can't litter, or did they ban toilet paper.
@margechronicles I totally agree, it is nice to visit, but not a nice place to live. I think it is a dictatorship but a benevolent one. Everything is controlled, in 1985, only one child, no chewing gum, no long hair, and people were packed and moved to high rise buildings which caused a lot of suicides (banned to report). The old houses might have been torn down, no character in downtown, looks like d US (boring). No govt services, one must pay for the education of their kids, medical, etc.,
Her explanation about the differences of the two nation (Philippines and Singapore) doesn't sound good on my ear. She is blaming her country rather than explaining.
Singapore the most livable? no thanks. who would want to live in a 1 party state where u r forced into the army (c part 2) ? with no free press and govt control of all media and internet?
maybe its ok for tourists and expats but who would want to be Singaporean?
@angelhound3 Me. You may think that I am brainwashed and all. I have been to many cities around the world, and i can daresay no where else in Asia is as comfortable as Singapore.
@singaporeanjosin That's because it's your home. :) The Philippines has slum, is polluted, has corrupt officials, but I can say the same thing you said about the Philippines--because it is my home. I have been to HK, Macau, and SG, just in case you wonder whether I have comparison.
I would go back to SG though whenever I can. It's a great place to shop and tour around.
@jefxavier Rights of individual? To what extent do we need that? I think apart from politics, we have the same rights as anyone outside sg. We are not North Korea, and you know very well we are not suppressed to that extent. These thoughts about Singapore being a nanny state will be the domain of those who do not appreciate the peace that all of us enjoys, the general wealth among Singaporeans, (highest GDP per capita in Asia, and among the first in the world), and the prosperity of our nation.
@singaporeanjosin as much as possible, I want to be able to live my life the way I want to live it. If I want to have some chewing gum, it should be my choice to make, not the government's. A recent international survey ranked the Filipinos third happiest. The rights of the individual are important to the extent that they keep us happy and content. Yes, SG is very prosperous, but in the end, we have to find a middle ground: how do we progress without giving up the rights we have?
@jefxavier Oh I don really care if I can chew gum or not. Chewing gum takes up the majority of your life? Kind of pathetic isnt it? As long as I am richer, and with basic rights, I don care about all these trivial rules. Do you have the rights and freedom of safety, order and prosperity? I dont think your country has. You cant even protect the foreigners like the hongkongers for safety. In that case they have no rights for safety. Kinda sad isnt it?
@MrJonslife we have different priorities. I value my freedom, all of it. I live decently. I can buy whatever i want to buy. I can visit other countries like Sg and enjoy shopping there. My government does not impose too many rules, and gives me the chance to decide for myself. You probably lived all your life in Sg, just visiting other places every now and then, that's why you will never be able to understand my perspective. Neither will I understand yours.
@MrJonslife SG is a PROSPEROUS country, and that has never been challenged. What I am saying is that I am not willing to trade some of my rights to see my country become as prosperous as yours. I have tasted more freedom than you have. My government does not censor any news, because we have the right to know. In SG, once when Orchard became flooded, the government tried to wash-out the news. What for? All I am saying is there must be another model for us to follow to become as progressive as SG.
@angelhound3 because our populations is small, our country is small and it is in the middle of the ocean. We once thought that no one can attack us we had the British to defend us. In the end the Japanese came and many suffered. So we learnt our lesson never to rely on another nations defense and we built our own army.
@angelhound3 They dont force us. Its because we have a small population. If there is a choice for us to go military, I can bet with you no Singaporeans will do that because we have much better things to do like carry on with our education instead of spending time in the army. The government knows that and thus they make it compulsory. Guys you all dont even know about Singapore's history and the difficulties we face so dont make unnecessary comments.
@singaporeanjosin of course they force you-that is what conscription is. other small countries do fine without resorting to conscription. neither Indonesia nor Malaysia would ever attack Singapore, and if they did the superior numbers of Indonesia would win anyway. your conscript army is not for defense, its for control, so you all obey Harry Lee and his dynasty
@angelhound3 Oh and by the way, at least the army teaches me to protect and defend, not just country, but my family and loved ones. I learn things that a normal person wont learn. I learn something that benefits me for my future. You have been to the army, you dont know how much we change after going to army, as an individual, as a man. Say I am brainwashed. I am much more educated than the average Asian, I know whats going on around the world.
@singaporeanjosin of course they force you-that is what conscription is. other small countries do fine without resorting to conscription. neither Indonesia nor Malaysia would ever attack Singapore, and if they did the superior numbers of Indonesia would win anyway. your conscript army is not for defense, its for control, so you all obey Harry Lee and his dynasty
It is hard to compare a dictator style governed country with a country like the Philippines, where we vote Presidents who sometimes were corrupt. It is a very small country, the Philippines is bigger and more people. I was there before the high rises, that time there were still old houses but probably by now it was torn down and the people live in boring high rises (cause of numerous suicides, no news bec. it is bad for the image), Can't chew gum, can't litter, or did they ban toilet paper.
Batulao83 1 week ago
i can pinpoint more than 10 lessons why not to learn from singapore. you'll suffer if you're in singapore. dont go there.
margechronicles 2 months ago
@margechronicles I totally agree, it is nice to visit, but not a nice place to live. I think it is a dictatorship but a benevolent one. Everything is controlled, in 1985, only one child, no chewing gum, no long hair, and people were packed and moved to high rise buildings which caused a lot of suicides (banned to report). The old houses might have been torn down, no character in downtown, looks like d US (boring). No govt services, one must pay for the education of their kids, medical, etc.,
Batulao83 1 week ago
Her explanation about the differences of the two nation (Philippines and Singapore) doesn't sound good on my ear. She is blaming her country rather than explaining.
ninjitsu2008 9 months ago
steady lah SG!
StrikerzSG 10 months ago
If the rights of the individual will always trump the rights of the state, then the SIngaporean experiment will never work in the Philippines...
ansj64 1 year ago
Singapore the most livable? no thanks. who would want to live in a 1 party state where u r forced into the army (c part 2) ? with no free press and govt control of all media and internet?
maybe its ok for tourists and expats but who would want to be Singaporean?
angelhound3 1 year ago
@angelhound3 Me. You may think that I am brainwashed and all. I have been to many cities around the world, and i can daresay no where else in Asia is as comfortable as Singapore.
singaporeanjosin 1 year ago
@singaporeanjosin That's because it's your home. :) The Philippines has slum, is polluted, has corrupt officials, but I can say the same thing you said about the Philippines--because it is my home. I have been to HK, Macau, and SG, just in case you wonder whether I have comparison.
I would go back to SG though whenever I can. It's a great place to shop and tour around.
jefxavier 1 year ago
@jefxavier Rights of individual? To what extent do we need that? I think apart from politics, we have the same rights as anyone outside sg. We are not North Korea, and you know very well we are not suppressed to that extent. These thoughts about Singapore being a nanny state will be the domain of those who do not appreciate the peace that all of us enjoys, the general wealth among Singaporeans, (highest GDP per capita in Asia, and among the first in the world), and the prosperity of our nation.
singaporeanjosin 1 year ago
@singaporeanjosin as much as possible, I want to be able to live my life the way I want to live it. If I want to have some chewing gum, it should be my choice to make, not the government's. A recent international survey ranked the Filipinos third happiest. The rights of the individual are important to the extent that they keep us happy and content. Yes, SG is very prosperous, but in the end, we have to find a middle ground: how do we progress without giving up the rights we have?
jefxavier 10 months ago
@jefxavier Oh I don really care if I can chew gum or not. Chewing gum takes up the majority of your life? Kind of pathetic isnt it? As long as I am richer, and with basic rights, I don care about all these trivial rules. Do you have the rights and freedom of safety, order and prosperity? I dont think your country has. You cant even protect the foreigners like the hongkongers for safety. In that case they have no rights for safety. Kinda sad isnt it?
MrJonslife 10 months ago
@MrJonslife we have different priorities. I value my freedom, all of it. I live decently. I can buy whatever i want to buy. I can visit other countries like Sg and enjoy shopping there. My government does not impose too many rules, and gives me the chance to decide for myself. You probably lived all your life in Sg, just visiting other places every now and then, that's why you will never be able to understand my perspective. Neither will I understand yours.
jefxavier 10 months ago
@MrJonslife SG is a PROSPEROUS country, and that has never been challenged. What I am saying is that I am not willing to trade some of my rights to see my country become as prosperous as yours. I have tasted more freedom than you have. My government does not censor any news, because we have the right to know. In SG, once when Orchard became flooded, the government tried to wash-out the news. What for? All I am saying is there must be another model for us to follow to become as progressive as SG.
jefxavier 10 months ago
@angelhound3 there something we are doing right
noelsoong777 1 year ago
@noelsoong777 then why do have to force people into your military?
angelhound3 1 year ago
@angelhound3 because our populations is small, our country is small and it is in the middle of the ocean. We once thought that no one can attack us we had the British to defend us. In the end the Japanese came and many suffered. So we learnt our lesson never to rely on another nations defense and we built our own army.
noelsoong777 1 year ago
@angelhound3 They dont force us. Its because we have a small population. If there is a choice for us to go military, I can bet with you no Singaporeans will do that because we have much better things to do like carry on with our education instead of spending time in the army. The government knows that and thus they make it compulsory. Guys you all dont even know about Singapore's history and the difficulties we face so dont make unnecessary comments.
singaporeanjosin 1 year ago
@singaporeanjosin of course they force you-that is what conscription is. other small countries do fine without resorting to conscription. neither Indonesia nor Malaysia would ever attack Singapore, and if they did the superior numbers of Indonesia would win anyway. your conscript army is not for defense, its for control, so you all obey Harry Lee and his dynasty
angelhound3 1 year ago
@angelhound3 Oh and by the way, at least the army teaches me to protect and defend, not just country, but my family and loved ones. I learn things that a normal person wont learn. I learn something that benefits me for my future. You have been to the army, you dont know how much we change after going to army, as an individual, as a man. Say I am brainwashed. I am much more educated than the average Asian, I know whats going on around the world.
MrJonslife 10 months ago
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@singaporeanjosin of course they force you-that is what conscription is. other small countries do fine without resorting to conscription. neither Indonesia nor Malaysia would ever attack Singapore, and if they did the superior numbers of Indonesia would win anyway. your conscript army is not for defense, its for control, so you all obey Harry Lee and his dynasty
angelhound3 1 year ago