hip hop is not an american black specific thing...especially since it has jamaican origins via kool herc. its never been strictly about race, even BDP was spitting about class and institutions in the mid 80s. if i want someone to talk to me about hip hop, im going to listen to KRS and other hip hop legends and modern innovators. music is not created by race.
Dyson uses his strong vocab and speaking skills to skillfully talk his way around the central issues of the debate. The point is the 'pathology' of America reflected through hip hop as he says, is having a significant destructive affect on young black lives and the community. The truth that he evades so well is that many young kids are being socialized into destructive behavior and thought patterns directly through certain popular hip hop 'artists' music.
@pfctjd As a white male too I must admit: You are a freak scared to get out of your house and get in touch with reality. Get lost and take your childish prejudices with you!
I am just telling you the truth about the nigger race. When the niggers stop attcking white men and stop raping white women, then I will leave them alone.
@pfctjd anytime my fellow partner in coonery. btw, you give the best bear hugs. i love it when we spend hours in the bath, pressing our lips together. even though you are in high school, and i am not, you can set aside time from your busy trolling schedule to seduce me. i still feel like that young jewish-korean girl i was, when i first met you. i will never forget the smell of your rotting acne-laden dick festering inside my mushy dead-flesh-bubble-like poon.
I always liked it when you called yourself "My Nigger" and you let me beat you with a whip and chain as I yelled out "DEATH TO THE MONKEY RACE!". I miss you too, my little kinky haired, wide nose, bubbled lip, ashy nigger lover!
@pfctjd i remember once after a sweaty, hard game of basketball(s) and many lay-ups, you released a stream of piss in my face. i was instantly engaged. i forced my urine into my anus with deep lungs, and a crazy straw, you stood back in amazement. i then tugged your puffy nipples to the ground. i then bents my knees and squatted into "woman-pissing-in-the-forest" position, and farted a burning moist gas into your ear. we both came while serving a platter of rimjobs listening to barry white
@pfctjd ps- the hottest thing about getting sexually lynched by you, was that although you were a total dom-bitch during it, you made me call YOU Toby! it was so taboo and in-your-face-girlfriend! A+ Job Well Done My Little Man!
You can't intellectualize idiocracy. HOWLING WOLF, JOHN LEE HOOKER, LOUIS ARMSTRONG, CAB CALLOWAY, DINAH WASHINGTON, SARAH VAUGHN, FRANK SINATRA, TOM JONES, BEETHOVEN, made me feel good! That's music. Far as I know I never heard JAY Z, P DIDDY, SCOOP DOG. What I've heard made my ears bleed! Bottom line, (NOT MUSIC). (IS BILL COSBY RIGHT)??
TOO Late. Black CULTURE & ALL COMMUNITIES "DESTROYED". BY REVERSE CULTURE, that you supported! Businesses gone forever!
@jor99912 You probably don't even know who Mos Def, Common, Chuck D, Blck Thought or Talib Kweli are. That's your fault. Black music is still alive but you must find it outside of the MTV and the big commercial radios.
@mayer8356 No such thing as REVERSE CULTURE if you believe in DYSON's (URBAN ECONOMICS EUBONICS) what the fuc. In lieu of his Universities (PSYCHOLOGY & SOCIOLOGY) real science, not pseudo. Where you can comprehend that speech like MOS DEF, JAY Z, ALLEN IVERSON. Where you may speak truth, but speak like you're retarded, is ineffective, indefensible! From CAB CALLOWAY, ECKSTEIN, JIMMY REED, HOWLING WOLF, JOHN LEE HOOKER, JAMES BROWN. No argument: We loved them all. Not so today, WHY??
@jor99912 Plently of people, including myself, love all those fantastic artists that you mentioned. Their legacy is sealed. Yet to declare that the development of hip-hop music represents a regression in artistic culture is a dangerous viewpoint to hold. To boldly claim that rappers create and perform as if they were handicapped is a crass and offensive generalisation. Perhaps you need to be more open-minded.
@mayer8356The DANGEROUS point of view is Dr WEST (complacency)-Congeniality. Anything goes! SLAVERY-RACISM-WHITE SUPREMACY- LYNCHING-MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO. All come from the same mentality. All exactly the exact same thing as your (DRAWS ON THE GROUND. I can look more stupid, ridiculous, more Foolish, dumber than you! The world is an Evil place today. And DUMB!
o whoever has an ear and wants to hear something very important, the Lord Jesus Christ said: "For God so Loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son & that who ever believes in Jesus will never perish but will receive EVERLASTING life ;.Therefore, whoever believes in Jesus has eternal life (right now) , but whoever rejects this already has the wrath of God at work in their life". Check it out if you like, it's all in the Gospel of John, Chapter 3. Believe the Gospels and repen
Jesus Christ Im tired of all these white people who dont know the history of their country and say theres nothing wrong its equal NO IT IS NOT WAKE UP AND DO SOME RESEARCH on the prison industrial Complex sorry if isingled out white people thats not fair cause there are some blacks that are successful who say that it is equal thats are misinformed. Dont get me wrong any can become very weathy in this country but just look at who is rich and who lives in the projects and who fills up the jails.
Dyson and West are deluded neanderthals, regarding America as evil, even after racism legally no longer exists in this country. Capitalism still exists, so they can't be satisfied. Leftists will never be satisfied until we are all robots to the dictates of their government, doing whatever that government tells us, forsaking any personal profit to it.
@rickv404 Uh huh. Are anarchists leftists? You know, those people who want to get rid of centralized governmental systems. The word you're looking for is "liberal" -- but wait, I guess that would have to include people like George Bush who radically increased the size and scope of the federal government. Maybe you should a little research before making such ridiculous comments. And giving blacks the vote and banning racial discrimination in the work place in no way spells the end of racism.
Do you know why its called Capitalism? Its rooted in the rhetoric that it takes money to make money...do you know how America raised that money? SLAVERY aka FREE LABOR! You are too quick to reach out of context and not understand the big picture. Learn ALL of American history, not just the shit they taught you about Pilgrims in history class.
And what was slavery but government policy? Exactly what Dyson and West are advocating. More government policy (force) to temper or even destroy Capitalism. They are getting their wish, under Democrats and Republicans. Capitalism doesn't exist where slavery exists. It is a free exchange of labor and goods. You are not forced to buy, you are not forced to work for this business or that. When government intervenes, you are indeed made a slave to its dictates, with no freedom of choice.
@rickv404 Government has changed. It requires FURTHER change with better policy than raw capitalism. Under the TransAtlantic Slave Trade, human beings were that very labor and goods you say is the foundation of capitalism...you need further study on the topic to continue this conversation.
you have absolutely NO idea what youre talking about.....
if you dont think evils exist in america then you cant be helped and should just kill yourself now before you breed. deluded neanderthals? what law exists that prevents racism specifically? or are you talking about how it's illegal to lynch a black man in the streets of mississippi now......it isnt a left and right issue you fucking drone, and the fact that you reduced it to that feeble bi-partisan issue makes YOU the robot
I don't buy into blaming society for bad behavior. Personal responsibility has to start somewhere.
Until black people police their own, engage in society rather than denigrate it, start teaching their youth something besides "gangsterism" and "pimpin'", and stop forwarding criminality as a way of life, I will have no pathos whatsoever.
@kleptobyte Until white people police their own, engage in society rather than denigrate it, start teaching their youth something besides "pedophilia" and "zoophilia", and stop forwarding homosexuality as a way of life, i will have no respect for them whatsoever.
Agreed. Dyson is one of the biggest academic frauds in the history of American academia. The fact that this man is so revered as a towering intellect having written NO seminal work on any topic of importance is just shocking to me.
@KinglyNumbaOne Precisely. These black "civil rights" leaders are just as bad as the Klan because we're white and like to demonize any black man or group that points the finger were it needs to be. if you say white people are evil (even though we are), we will put you on a moral par with a mass genocidal murder like hitler because we don't like hearing the truth and taking responsibility. so the only thing we can do is try to make you feel like you're a bad person for holding us accountable.
Can you read? (I have to ask because most Dyson fans can't.) I explained why: He is heralded as some kind of towering intellect when he has written nothing of worth. His "academic" works include bios of Nas and Tupac, and a book about black women's curves. If that's what you call impressive scholarship, it makes sense that you're a Dyson fan.
Dyson is a disgrace to black academia, and he appeals to black semi-literates who are so blown away by his ability to articulate nothing.
@KinglyNumbaOne -you need to see/read Dyson's work, "the Michael Eric Dyson Reader", you would not make that assertion. You can probably get a copy of this book at Barnes & Noble.
@KinglyNumbaOne - really ?!? What specific theme are you disputing (try to avoid your ad hom. attacks here) which essay do you disagree with in particular. What do you find objectionable about his critique say of marxian social progress theory ? thanks
@kleptobyte You're an idiot. He is saying its the reaction of oppression by Whites that in turn conceives gangsta rap. Did the Italians in Prohibition Chicago have much opportunity? Probably not, so they became gangsters and did things their way.
West is not evil like that other liberal, Hitler, he is a blow hard buffoon, that is a black mark on the English language.
His run on sentences with a series of undefined abstractions may sound impressive to the simple minded, but some of us know it just BS.
tnekkc 1 week ago
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Cornel West needs to be bitch slapped until he keeps his face out of the media.
He is making America look stupid.
tnekkc 3 weeks ago
Cornel West needs to be bitch slapped until he keeps his face out of the media.
He is making America look stupid.
tnekkc 3 weeks ago
@tnekkc he's not wrong.
fede2 1 week ago
Dyson has NO educational background in sociology, his Ph D is in religion
forshigity5000 1 month ago
@forshigity5000 you need a degree in sociology to critique society? god help us then.
niceblackcoffee 3 weeks ago
@niceblackcoffee
yup.Thats where we are.
If a Dr tells you your sick.Better go run to big pharma.
If I tell you your sick and I done loads of research that Drs impact is still far more powerful.
Not because he went to school,but under the strange submission of the human being to not fucking question authority
lopytube 3 weeks ago
i live in brazil , but i dont see it here , brazilian blacks are the worst.
carlos64041 2 months ago
hip hop is not an american black specific thing...especially since it has jamaican origins via kool herc. its never been strictly about race, even BDP was spitting about class and institutions in the mid 80s. if i want someone to talk to me about hip hop, im going to listen to KRS and other hip hop legends and modern innovators. music is not created by race.
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
Dyson uses his strong vocab and speaking skills to skillfully talk his way around the central issues of the debate. The point is the 'pathology' of America reflected through hip hop as he says, is having a significant destructive affect on young black lives and the community. The truth that he evades so well is that many young kids are being socialized into destructive behavior and thought patterns directly through certain popular hip hop 'artists' music.
JimBowie1133 2 months ago
Now I know why he has a beard.
poopooman38111 2 months ago
M E DYSON IS A VERY SMART MAN
SuperTestfreak 3 months ago
what was that show at the begining?
topgunn916 3 months ago
Why are people so freakin' amazed when negros use a multi-syllable word?
I have a dog that can chase a tennis ball and that is a more complicated task than saying the word "articulate"
crutmauler 3 months ago
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As a white man I must: Nigger are animals. Thank you for reading my commet!
pfctjd 3 months ago
@pfctjd As a white male too I must admit: You are a freak scared to get out of your house and get in touch with reality. Get lost and take your childish prejudices with you!
ciego79 3 months ago
@ciego79
Go down to Niggerville, USA and see what the walking, taking apes think of you. I said it once and I will say it again: Niggers are animals!
pfctjd 3 months ago
@pfctjd You are the one expressinig yourself lke an animal here. Shame on you, kid!
ciego79 3 months ago
@ciego79
I am just telling you the truth about the nigger race. When the niggers stop attcking white men and stop raping white women, then I will leave them alone.
pfctjd 3 months ago
@pfctjd youre trolling is successful
not
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
@courtesyclerk
Thanks my nigger friend
pfctjd 2 months ago
@pfctjd anytime my fellow partner in coonery. btw, you give the best bear hugs. i love it when we spend hours in the bath, pressing our lips together. even though you are in high school, and i am not, you can set aside time from your busy trolling schedule to seduce me. i still feel like that young jewish-korean girl i was, when i first met you. i will never forget the smell of your rotting acne-laden dick festering inside my mushy dead-flesh-bubble-like poon.
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
@courtesyclerk
I always liked it when you called yourself "My Nigger" and you let me beat you with a whip and chain as I yelled out "DEATH TO THE MONKEY RACE!". I miss you too, my little kinky haired, wide nose, bubbled lip, ashy nigger lover!
pfctjd 2 months ago
@pfctjd i remember once after a sweaty, hard game of basketball(s) and many lay-ups, you released a stream of piss in my face. i was instantly engaged. i forced my urine into my anus with deep lungs, and a crazy straw, you stood back in amazement. i then tugged your puffy nipples to the ground. i then bents my knees and squatted into "woman-pissing-in-the-forest" position, and farted a burning moist gas into your ear. we both came while serving a platter of rimjobs listening to barry white
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
@pfctjd ps- the hottest thing about getting sexually lynched by you, was that although you were a total dom-bitch during it, you made me call YOU Toby! it was so taboo and in-your-face-girlfriend! A+ Job Well Done My Little Man!
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
@pfctjd remember that one time when we jerked each off to Morgan Freeman narrating the opening scene of season 4 of Bonanza? i still miss you
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
You can't intellectualize idiocracy. HOWLING WOLF, JOHN LEE HOOKER, LOUIS ARMSTRONG, CAB CALLOWAY, DINAH WASHINGTON, SARAH VAUGHN, FRANK SINATRA, TOM JONES, BEETHOVEN, made me feel good! That's music. Far as I know I never heard JAY Z, P DIDDY, SCOOP DOG. What I've heard made my ears bleed! Bottom line, (NOT MUSIC). (IS BILL COSBY RIGHT)??
TOO Late. Black CULTURE & ALL COMMUNITIES "DESTROYED". BY REVERSE CULTURE, that you supported! Businesses gone forever!
jor99912 6 months ago
@jor99912 You probably don't even know who Mos Def, Common, Chuck D, Blck Thought or Talib Kweli are. That's your fault. Black music is still alive but you must find it outside of the MTV and the big commercial radios.
ciego79 3 months ago
@jor99912 There's no such thing as "reverse culture".
mayer8356 3 months ago
@mayer8356 No such thing as REVERSE CULTURE if you believe in DYSON's (URBAN ECONOMICS EUBONICS) what the fuc. In lieu of his Universities (PSYCHOLOGY & SOCIOLOGY) real science, not pseudo. Where you can comprehend that speech like MOS DEF, JAY Z, ALLEN IVERSON. Where you may speak truth, but speak like you're retarded, is ineffective, indefensible! From CAB CALLOWAY, ECKSTEIN, JIMMY REED, HOWLING WOLF, JOHN LEE HOOKER, JAMES BROWN. No argument: We loved them all. Not so today, WHY??
jor99912 3 months ago
@jor99912 Plently of people, including myself, love all those fantastic artists that you mentioned. Their legacy is sealed. Yet to declare that the development of hip-hop music represents a regression in artistic culture is a dangerous viewpoint to hold. To boldly claim that rappers create and perform as if they were handicapped is a crass and offensive generalisation. Perhaps you need to be more open-minded.
mayer8356 3 months ago
@mayer8356 A HUMAN point of view!
jor99912 3 months ago
@mayer8356The DANGEROUS point of view is Dr WEST (complacency)-Congeniality. Anything goes! SLAVERY-RACISM-WHITE SUPREMACY- LYNCHING-MONKEY SEE MONKEY DO. All come from the same mentality. All exactly the exact same thing as your (DRAWS ON THE GROUND. I can look more stupid, ridiculous, more Foolish, dumber than you! The world is an Evil place today. And DUMB!
jor99912 3 months ago
o whoever has an ear and wants to hear something very important, the Lord Jesus Christ said: "For God so Loved the world that He gave His only Begotten Son & that who ever believes in Jesus will never perish but will receive EVERLASTING life ;.Therefore, whoever believes in Jesus has eternal life (right now) , but whoever rejects this already has the wrath of God at work in their life". Check it out if you like, it's all in the Gospel of John, Chapter 3. Believe the Gospels and repen
shieldsff 10 months ago
Jesus Christ Im tired of all these white people who dont know the history of their country and say theres nothing wrong its equal NO IT IS NOT WAKE UP AND DO SOME RESEARCH on the prison industrial Complex sorry if isingled out white people thats not fair cause there are some blacks that are successful who say that it is equal thats are misinformed. Dont get me wrong any can become very weathy in this country but just look at who is rich and who lives in the projects and who fills up the jails.
fukumudder 1 year ago
@fukumudder its about class, not race. any use of race is used to protect class status.
courtesyclerk 2 months ago
Dyson and West are deluded neanderthals, regarding America as evil, even after racism legally no longer exists in this country. Capitalism still exists, so they can't be satisfied. Leftists will never be satisfied until we are all robots to the dictates of their government, doing whatever that government tells us, forsaking any personal profit to it.
rickv404 1 year ago
@rickv404 Uh huh. Are anarchists leftists? You know, those people who want to get rid of centralized governmental systems. The word you're looking for is "liberal" -- but wait, I guess that would have to include people like George Bush who radically increased the size and scope of the federal government. Maybe you should a little research before making such ridiculous comments. And giving blacks the vote and banning racial discrimination in the work place in no way spells the end of racism.
meshzzizk 1 year ago
@rickv404
Do you know why its called Capitalism? Its rooted in the rhetoric that it takes money to make money...do you know how America raised that money? SLAVERY aka FREE LABOR! You are too quick to reach out of context and not understand the big picture. Learn ALL of American history, not just the shit they taught you about Pilgrims in history class.
HaloedG 1 year ago
@HaloedG
And what was slavery but government policy? Exactly what Dyson and West are advocating. More government policy (force) to temper or even destroy Capitalism. They are getting their wish, under Democrats and Republicans. Capitalism doesn't exist where slavery exists. It is a free exchange of labor and goods. You are not forced to buy, you are not forced to work for this business or that. When government intervenes, you are indeed made a slave to its dictates, with no freedom of choice.
rickv404 1 year ago
@rickv404 Government has changed. It requires FURTHER change with better policy than raw capitalism. Under the TransAtlantic Slave Trade, human beings were that very labor and goods you say is the foundation of capitalism...you need further study on the topic to continue this conversation.
HaloedG 1 year ago
@rickv404
you have absolutely NO idea what youre talking about.....
if you dont think evils exist in america then you cant be helped and should just kill yourself now before you breed. deluded neanderthals? what law exists that prevents racism specifically? or are you talking about how it's illegal to lynch a black man in the streets of mississippi now......it isnt a left and right issue you fucking drone, and the fact that you reduced it to that feeble bi-partisan issue makes YOU the robot
neverseed1 1 year ago
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Queen:
I don't buy into blaming society for bad behavior. Personal responsibility has to start somewhere.
Until black people police their own, engage in society rather than denigrate it, start teaching their youth something besides "gangsterism" and "pimpin'", and stop forwarding criminality as a way of life, I will have no pathos whatsoever.
kleptobyte 1 year ago
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@kleptobyte Until white people police their own, engage in society rather than denigrate it, start teaching their youth something besides "pedophilia" and "zoophilia", and stop forwarding homosexuality as a way of life, i will have no respect for them whatsoever.
FuckUtube2008 1 year ago
So now white people are to blame for gangsta rap?
Dyson is a moron.
kleptobyte 1 year ago
@kleptobyte Absolutely not, Dyson and West identify an (unjust) society for the creation of "gangsta" rap.
queendamaris 1 year ago
@kleptobyte
Agreed. Dyson is one of the biggest academic frauds in the history of American academia. The fact that this man is so revered as a towering intellect having written NO seminal work on any topic of importance is just shocking to me.
KinglyNumbaOne 1 year ago
@KinglyNumbaOne
He and Sharpton are up there with the Klan as far as race baiting goes. In fact, they've made an industry out of it.
kleptobyte 1 year ago
@kleptobyte Precisely. These black "civil rights" leaders are just as bad as the Klan.
KinglyNumbaOne 1 year ago
@KinglyNumbaOne Precisely. These black "civil rights" leaders are just as bad as the Klan because we're white and like to demonize any black man or group that points the finger were it needs to be. if you say white people are evil (even though we are), we will put you on a moral par with a mass genocidal murder like hitler because we don't like hearing the truth and taking responsibility. so the only thing we can do is try to make you feel like you're a bad person for holding us accountable.
FuckUtube2008 1 year ago
@FuckUtube2008 White people aren't evil. Only white liberals are evil, which I assume you are. ;)
KinglyNumbaOne 1 year ago
@KinglyNumbaOne Really? How so? example.
101iamlegend 1 year ago
@101iamlegend
Can you read? (I have to ask because most Dyson fans can't.) I explained why: He is heralded as some kind of towering intellect when he has written nothing of worth. His "academic" works include bios of Nas and Tupac, and a book about black women's curves. If that's what you call impressive scholarship, it makes sense that you're a Dyson fan.
Dyson is a disgrace to black academia, and he appeals to black semi-literates who are so blown away by his ability to articulate nothing.
KinglyNumbaOne 1 year ago
@KinglyNumbaOne -you need to see/read Dyson's work, "the Michael Eric Dyson Reader", you would not make that assertion. You can probably get a copy of this book at Barnes & Noble.
shieldsff 10 months ago
@shieldsff -- I've read it. If you think that is a good book, then you probably have never read another book in your life...
KinglyNumbaOne 10 months ago
@KinglyNumbaOne - really ?!? What specific theme are you disputing (try to avoid your ad hom. attacks here) which essay do you disagree with in particular. What do you find objectionable about his critique say of marxian social progress theory ? thanks
shieldsff 10 months ago
@101iamlegend - good point.... guess you'll be waiting quite a long tong time for that explanation !
shieldsff 10 months ago
@kleptobyte
Why is he a race baiter? Since he speaks about race and its influence on American events, its a negative thing? They are simply observations.
HaloedG 1 year ago
Respond to this video...wy do you think he is a fraud? Elaborate?
HaloedG 1 year ago
@kleptobyte You're an idiot. He is saying its the reaction of oppression by Whites that in turn conceives gangsta rap. Did the Italians in Prohibition Chicago have much opportunity? Probably not, so they became gangsters and did things their way.
HaloedG 1 year ago