Just want to know how you can make the transition from sparing to competition. If the blocks are to supposed to damage the opponents hands, is that not negated by gloves?
Also are the elbows to be only used as defence or can you strike with them?
52 Blocks vs Stato Fist, a documentary on the history 52 Blocks in America, email danielmarks52@yahoo(dot)com to get a free viewer password to watch it online.
You can buy instructional dvds at the website at the end of the clip,leave lyte a message on youtube 52blocksinfo,or if you're near NYC go to thompkins square park E10 Ave B
@clearcombat Yes it is effective,remember the blocks are situational this clip is just a demonstration of the first ten blocks.Behind the blocks Im still using footwoork,level changing,hitting forearm stops,using underhooks,whizzers and sprawls to stuff the takedown
@Donkyfishy no its a wrestling term,like an overhook putting a lot of pressure down through the arm/shoulder (Im not a wrestler) do a youtube search for whizzer wrestling and you will see it
thankyou for the positive comments,once Lyte has been over here I'll be heading back to NY ,I'll let you know and make sure I see you.Thanks once again LGD
All it takes to learn this style is for someone to teach you who knows it and the dedication to train. Think what you want about Dink's vid but the man is dedicated to his training like you would not believe. Just the fact alone that the man travels from the UK to the U.S. to learn should tell you something of his dedication. He is no easy win. Keep doing your thing Dink hope to see you next time you come to NY.
any code of conduct falls on the shoulders of the teacher not student byfar the teacher needs the student more then the student needs the teacher since every mans information is biased it is a blessing for a teacher to pass along his information and bias and its up to the student to remove the bias and keep a open mind this is what bruce spoke on fighting is free expression not imitation to copy what your teacher does is not learning on the highest level or is it understanding
its the job of the student in his spare time to understand what he has been shown and through this process you find yourself not your teacher my understanding of 52 is my own because i lived with it and understand it my view may differ from others but with every man having different body types and skill each mans perception should be different if they were doing the work to copy your teacher is just flattery not understanding we know who yip man is because of his student bruce we know who
eddie futch is because of his student joe frazier martial arts are not cults if as a student you have to act a certain way to get information then your in a ponzi scheme a real teacher has a obligation to pass on information and the student must recieve and carry the torch because of bruces dedication we know all of his teachers without that we wouldn't know who yip man was so the code of a teacher is to find young positive vessels to fill with information as the saying goes
"when the student is ready the teacher appears"in this relationship the teacher needs the student more the only code the student needs is good wortk ethics and to do the work he dosen't need tpo carry his teacher on his shoulders actually the teacher carries the student and holds him in high regards because he represents the teachers life and if the teacher wants to be reconized without students he needs to become a fighter no one can take you to the next level only within self can that be done
yes SIR 52A.O.D NO RELIGON NO CODE NO NONSENSE JUST THE ART OF DEFENSE AND HOW NOT TO BE HIT EVEN THOUGH ITS THE GIFT OF BLACK MEN THIS ART IS FOR ALL MEN AS THE SAYING THAT CLARENCE 13X MADE FAMOUS I'M PRO BLACK NOT ANTIWHITE MUCH LOVE TO ALL
Lyte, code is important. Code can mean the difference between somebody who has your back and someone who will stab you in your back. The problem that I have with certain people who rep 52 and speak so much on code is that they are looking at code in a very narrow- minded point of view. That may be a product of them stating 52 Hand Blocks is only meant for a few. You can be someone who possesses code, but if you question them in any kind of way to the contrary, all of a sudden, it's no longer...
..all good. Know they are questioning whether you are the person they thought you were. But the questioning is coming from an already flawed, narrow-minded focus and foundation. I am a very broad-minded type of individual so I can see and acknowledge all points of views, even those opposite or in conflict with mine. That's cool, though. I possess the type of mentality that breeds development and promotes evolvement. Narrow-mindedness in people who claim they have code is a character flaw...
A character flaw like this breeds division, unnecessary paranoia, faux superiority complexes, and stalled development and evolvement (just to name a few). I see individuals that post on here like they are righteous, just, and pure behaving the total opposite. Individuals saying that they are humble and throwing the word PEACE around like it's fertilizer on a lawn, but yet, you look at some of their rantings and it's laced with invitations of violence, of things that are far from humble...
...yet these same individuals are the ones preaching no 52 without culture. These same individuals are conducting themselves exactly like the vultures and snakes they are trying to shield 52 from. The one thing I give credit to FarisiDaniel on is him saying ASK WHY. Now I'm view several individuals skeptically who rep 52, not because I lack code, but because certain individuals display character flaws that make me question their (code), as it relates to 52.
real tALK to have a code of conduct is very important but just to throw the word around sounds more like what you hear from cults to say people can learn only if they learn code you should present the code and people can decide if they want to follow but just to use code and tell people you should call men that you don't know elders sounds incorrect how do you know what that man represents a real man will teach you how to be a man not be a follower of men all fighting is self expression
so there is no code that can call itself correct if its telling you not express yourself as you any code that goes against yourself is no code thats oppression and if training with men other then black men is going against a code then thats no code thats just another mans bias like i have said i remember no code there is culture thats what i rep and support there were alot of 52 practioners that were criminals but where not here to talk about the criminals of 52 we are suppose to be discussing
the system and how young black men nowadays must have not been taught the code because they are killing each other they don't have the know how to defend themselves so they grab guns BROOKLYN has become the home of gun fights and not to long ago it was the home of 52 where you could get a fist fight because brothers knew how to the confidence of fighting is gone and that is where 52 is truly needed instead we have infighting over whos not doing 52 YET KNOW ONE IS GOING TO SHOW REAL 52
sounds like game black culture has never been afraid to show its gifts and customs we help create the word bling from rap to basketball if you have the talent and know how and its positive brothers are showing but all of sudden when it comes to 52 you would keep it from other black men like i said THIS IS GAME i will continue to what i do repping what black men have done for years way before the politics that have been attached AND TO THE YOUNG MEN ANYBODY UNDER 20 I WILL TRAIN FOR FREE LGD
yo cuz, this is why i try not to read the comments posted. Embarrassing to see my people focus on the negative & destroy themselves on a public stage for the world to see. instant gratification IS the death of honor in these times we live in. Many will come, few are chosen. without the history, the future id doomed. Wake up people. Violence begats violence. Learn your history, study your craft. WISDOM is IMMORTAL!
Things are not getting better nowadays, if only people realize the STORM thats coming. While our people fight each other, it will already be too late. The sincere already get the message and wont be able to help those rejected the message. One.
There is a saying in the african traditions, the TRUTH kills from the INSIDE. Only the FEW know what that means. not all food is good for you. so yes, please let the vultures and snakes keep on eating. GENBETKIMANJEANDEDAN!
again Bastards of the Party. many Panthers became Bastards when they threw code out the window. now you got a whole bunch of gang bangin and tough talk, very good for our people. Elders who are trying to stop the destruction they once contributed to amd are trying to make a difference and STOP the negative cycle. now that they are embracing CODE they are called soft and some get pulled back into the violence. some elders are strong and dont succumb to the weakness of the ego.
These are REAL men and true warriors who walked through the fires that none of these youngins would have been through or have the heat to walk. true warriors have nothing to prove cuz they know what they can do and will only teach the TRUE.
An analogy was made about giving a hungry man food and rather than appreciate the plate he's already asking for more. Why the hell would you feed a snake,vulture,devil,85, Kafir a plate in the first place? You dont! you dont let someone eat and say "that food was'nt for you" you just served them! Close the kitchen if you dont like the clientel.
there is a reason why you cant understand the analogy. its cuz its not for you to understand. these posts are for the sincere and not matter how much you dont like it, it is being commended. and yes I have elders who censor my posts. its called code, culture.
Again, what we post here is NOT for the vultures and snakes to understand. It is for the sincere. They understand why. Those who dont get angry because they dont have the necessray attributes to and it infuriates them why we still post. It is not for them to understand. We and the sincere know why.
..we have said time and time again what we post here is just the surface and for the sincere. Why we post to begin with does not concern you and your comments will not stop it neither. It only validates who is who. If it does not bother you, then why keep commenting about it? Keep it movin.
I've never asked you to stop posting; I've benefitted from what you've shared and it does not bother me at all. Continue to do so. I'm sure you also know that the vultures and snakes beg you to keep posting too. The more one talks, the more information they give, the more they expose. I have no qualms with the stance you're taking. Since I don't have a problem with it, I will quit commenting and keep it moving.
yes surface information is good while the DEEP info is preserved. we already said we only post surface here. vultures and snakes who despise it only show who is who. as for kats mad at the REAL in its entirety not being sold, commercialized and shown in its entirety to bait people by calling them scared, cant fight, etc. last time I checked the REAL got nothing to prove. especially to kats with no CODE.
Not all vultures and snakes DESPISE it. Like the sincere, they are capable of absorbing and preserving the DEEP info too, which is why they would welcome you to keep posting. Hence you are aiding them.
Surface or deep, it doesn't matter with snakes and vultures just as long as you continue to aide them. Some of the best answers are to questions you never had to open your mouth to ask.
aiding them with the surface info? Ok. So I guess from this surface info they can extract the entire plethora of combatives and the culture that goes along with it. wow these are some bad dudes. Wow. Trust me, we not worried about it. and with those with big mouths here knew who some of the elders were they would keep their mouth shut but its ok. thats why we post for many reasons.
No, aiding them with ANY INFO, surface or otherwise. Vultures and snakes don't always have their eye on the entire plethora. Take vultures, for example. They are usually led to the kill by other predators who have already done the work. They usually get the leftovers, not the entire kill (the entire plethora). Does it matter. Not nearly always because they thrive off scavenging and leftovers. They benefit regardless of how you want to play it. The less work the better.
Vultures will say, 'Good, let your posts be for the sincere, meanwhile I'll gather what I can (doesn't matter if it's not all of it), digest it, and sustain myself with food that wasn't meant for me'. The point being, 'I didn't have to work to get the food I got. I didn't have to go through the struggles and shed blood, I didn't have to make the kill, yet I'm eatin' anyway. Even it the food is tainted, it don't matter, my stomach is built especially to digest that too'.
there are those who commend our posts and ask it to continue cuz the it must be heard by those who are trying to understand. this is for those who UNDERSTAND the struggle. cuz thats what it is, a struggle to get people to understand and it is these posts you despise that have helped the FEW understand so it WILL continue.
lets understand what utube is, just about any visual image at ur fingertips, for the WORLD to c, would bruce lee go on utube? i feel that some things r hard to earn and rightfully so and some questions u got to earn the right to ask
but if ur put in a situation to get CLOSER to the answer instead of getting the answer right away then that man is pussy?
whats funny is alot of the so called haters want to learn soooo bad and they want everything in a nutshell reeaal quick but history has shown
One is labeled a "pussy" when they talk tough but refuse to back up tough talk. Seems like there are two schools of thought on 52. The do'ers and the talkers. When it comes to 52 make NO MISTAKE it is a FIGHTING ART. SOME CHOOSE TO LEARN THE FIGHT ASPECT WITHOUT THE CODE,ETC FORCED ON THEM BY THOSE THAT CANT FIGHT. If you dont like it fade to black and keep it moving. If my trainer only knew the history of fighting but could'nt fight he would have no credibility.
this whole thing how we act on here reminds me of exactly why a lot of people lost their culture...some african tribal warriors warring each other while colonialists were plottin on the very people warring until it was too late and they were in chains and the people behind it was not only colonists but some of our own people who had beef with the next man. when will we stop repeating history?
does everybody respect Bruce Lee what did he do to prove his system except challenges and he lost some and won most but he put his shit against others the 52 has not taking that step except for lyte but ya said he doesn't no 52 which is straight bullshit just plain jealousy so lets see if it's the best system in my words there ain't no system thats the best just the people who carry them so lets see 52 move with other if you sure of your shit do something with it and stop talking
why mention bruce when muhammad ali and others have done the same and bruce quoted muhammadi all the time"float like a butterfly sting like a bee" and gave bruce his swagga (game of death". also Constellation been put challenges out to all who doubt no one came to their gym. so pleaz brotha pleaz stop spreadin misinfo.
there is a clip 1 of the 52 documentaries where a dude is saying u shouldnt use 52 againt one who doesnt know it because its THAT dangerous, in my opinion the 52 is about more then fighting, therefore i cant see someone displaying it just because... but alot of people r on some gimme gimme, lemme see shit, if i shed blood to get something y would i risk exposing its worth to potential vultures jus cause the next man called me a name when in my heart i know my posessions is priceless
But mastercheestee, a question that has already been asked here several times is, basically, 'if you've shed blood to get this, if shedding light on the 52 risks you exposing it's worth to potential vultures and snakes...then why be on Youtube?' If this answer is to help the sincere, then one must also understand that in doing this, you will be directly aiding the people you're trying to avoid. If the goal is to help the sincere, it can be done in private email or in person.
If you insist on contuining to do work on behalf of the sincere, still posting on Youtube, still going back and forth with people you say are vultures and snakes...instead of following your own advice and falling back...you are the problem, not the vultures and snakes you're trying to guard the worth of 52 from.
watch "Bastards of the Party" on youtube and see what happens to a people without culture, without code and no unity, elders went underground a long time ago cuz of this very reason and now there our people remain Bastards (with no elders) because many of them have chose that cuz there is no longer respect for the elders. I hope we all find peace eventually. to the few who understand our struggle peace and thanks to you.
then when katz see there are other katz who are sincere on here katz get mad think its me posting under other names, then when they realize its not me, ask katz for their lineage, who taught them and personal info just like they did me like they are priveleged to that info..then snake the same dude they gettin info from. then we wonder why our people dont have unity... there is no code, no trust, etc.
...then i open one again and try to help out again...but again and again we never learn. all the meanwhile i ALWAYS say im Zo. never hid behind any name, post the same vids, drop jewelz, etc. when u close an account here u cant open it back up as the last one cuz its closed 4 ever. its only a few who are willing to build and not destroy one another. peace to those few. for the rest who want to continue warring. i hope you find peace.
and for those who wonder why i open an account then close it then re-open another one its cuz of this nonsense right here. every time i try to help my people this is what i see, arguing, bickering, snakin and all type of ish this is the reason why i open one account then get tired of this ish, close it, then see so much damage being done and people ask me back to bring healing,
But you're apart of the problem, though. Why? Because you are continually aiding people who you deem as vultures, snakes, and insincere by continuing to post on the jewels of 52 and culture instead of falling back. You're inflicting punishment and damage on yourself because you're not heeding your own words. You can't complain and yet participate at the same time.
the posts we post are for the sincere inside those who want to change, ive met a few sincere people on here who once had no idea what code until one of the posts hit home. thie is for them and others out there who truly dont know and are searching for the path. obviously, this message is not for you. so dont worry about who this message is for, the sincere know who they are. there are those who dont know yet but will.
Again, if you're on Youtube going back and forth with a bunch of people who you deem unappreciative, vultures, snakes, and insincere instead of falling back, you're just as much apart of the problem as they are. You can't complain about gunfire, yet participate in gun battles. All of what you speak can be done through private email or in person, not on Youtube. None of what I said indicates that I am worrying about who the message is for.
nakmeezy for the sake of peace for our people, this is also not setting a good example. please lets stop this already. speak offline if you have to settle this but not for the whole world to see.
U talkin some mma gloves n some ring nonsense! U want me,i'm in the streets n thats my home so come get me!U kno where to find me devil! No more words 4 u!
in the supreme wisdom lessons, lessons 1-40 question #34 ask,can u reform devil?Answer: NO! So all the talking the elders have done on here, their words have meant nothing to some! This dude is the most negative person on the tube n then join constellation so he can learn for his own personal gain! Not caring nothing about code or anything else! Jus wants to leech off the other man's knowledge of 52 n go his way after he is done learning what he wants!52 is done in the street or behind da g wall
IM SURPRISED YOUR TEACHER HAS'NT TOLD YOU TO CHILL. If he's putting batteries in your back,you better pull them shits out. Anyone with two eyes can see that you are not on my level. Thats ok though...you can still get it.
Not saying cuz u 35 u old! Just saying u probly mad cuz i'm learning at a younger age than u are! Rah is 40+ n is in better shape than most of the young dudes n the old timers in the streets!I don't sleep on no1. As 4 u kicking my teeth down my throat, i doubt it!All yall dudes that wanna harm me,come to 3333. Or in the South Bronx, close to the stadium!U not coming for a street fight, Y? U talkin like u a thug so be it!U just want rules when u fight!I don't! Keep underestimating me tho!
I mean no rules but not in the street. I dont have a record and dont want one for pounding you out. angelisone has a spot for us to bang,no rules just fighting. "ALL YALL DUDE'S THA WANNA HARM ME" You sound pussy! pick a spot other than a street corner in concourse village.
When you get the heart to stop singing and start swinging let me know. I will go to a place of your choosing as long as it is a gym dojo etc and we can do it once and for all. MMA gloves so you can easily wave your hands around before I kick your teeth down your throat. I am not a street brawler therefore I will not go to 3333 bway across from the c town for a streetfight. Do you need monetary incentive? let's do it for a G. There are others who wanna beat your ass too but I got dibs.
Mr.flight risk said i have my chest poked out ready 4 some1 to come test me n what not! He's about close to 40 n saying that! I guess i'm not suppose to feel confident!Nak say i speak like i'm an authority in 52! Well more than he is cuz i have more knowkedge than he does in this arena! I will never disrespect myself n the elders by acting like an authority! I'm a baby n still crawling but theres babies that can still be really effective with this! They see the growth n development n are worried
My point is that if u aint learn 52 while u were coming of age as a young man n didn't have a teacher to teach u the science of 52 don't make comments about me saying how pumpous i feel cuz u see i have confidence in myself and believe in 52blocks!Thats like saying if u learn how to dunk n u got the open lane don't dunk if dunking is your specialty! So Peace to the God's n the Earths N the Elders! Peace!Basically dudes who boats have passed r mad cuz its time 4 the new generation to come up!
My man,YOU'RE 24 YEARS OLD! MY SON IS THE NEXT GENERATION AT 7 YEARS OLD. YOU ARE NO TEENY BOPPER. DOES'NT MATTER WHEN I WAS RE-EXPOSED TO 52. I found it! So back to my original question.When can we put your 52 to the test against me. I'm an old fuck so it should'nt be hard for you. Let me guess"you're always on defense" Thats a cop out. NO MORE LONG TALK.
i just want to add on about something! People that r interested in 52blocks on the tube n within these pages act like the older they are the more authority they have n more of a right to speak on 52 than i, cuz i'm younger than they are! By ten years or so! in my humble opinion i think its jeolousy! N when ur boat passes u by then u start to look at the younger generation and start hating cuz u wish u had time to develop and grow within the art as a young man!So my name keep comin up cuz a hate
Cant keep your mouth shut huh? Yes I am 35 years old and in the best shape of my life. So dont sleep on me. ever hear of GROWN MAN STRENGTH? I have that plus skills,technique and speed. So again you sound ignorant. Your not even young anymore. Your too damn old to have this homo erotic fixation with rahmel. You sound like a school girl with a crush on the capt of the football team. I ask questions on 52 YOU speak as an authority.
Look I dont fuck with nobody, I dont start shit! BUT I got a MEAN KNUCKLE GAME and this is the bottom of the 9th inning and the bases are loaded and I'm grand slamming them all out the park! Dont believe me come to 3333 THE DOORS ARE OPEN and the deception is evident.
I saw this on HBO Demand probably earlier this year or last year. Had forgot all about it. Soon as I saw 'Bone' and his homies in the park, it all came back. Definitely recommend a view.
ego is mans greatest enemy, once ego can be suppress then can man elevate, no offense meant here, but one should not worry about what 52 has for the world, concerns should be what 52 has for the individual, zogbara mentions often that 52 is more than fight its spiritual also, and that journey we all take as an individual, so it has to be stated what can 52 do for me, first and foremost, he also states that kats need to have code if you lack that then naught will be taught to he who sought.
If you have questions ask your elders, why ask like some one who still lookin? you say Show n Prove but Show n Prove is more than fighting. Didnt FarisiDaniel say that already on protocol? this is more than just vid clips.
I already know that calls will be made for me to stop being taught. I will therefore thank Brother FARISI DANIELS,BIG K,HASSAN(GIANT)DOUG CENTURY for all they have shown and taught me in this short time. Also to lyte burley for having the balls to move with anyone who came to the park(even if was'nt 52)With that I will seek knowledge elsewhere PEACE. How's that for code? (zoklo,zogbara,ifevo)
huh? Calls being made? Now what are you talkin bout???, this is exactly what I mean, katz jumpin the gun without the proper understanding of whats being said. calls? thats not how we roll. Your journey is your journey, and I commend you for it...all Im saying is follow protocol, you say you know what it is but you already broke many. speak to your elders. Peace.
PumaBoys best vid was Zig-Zag-Zig, a lot was goin on their too but it was one of the vids kats slept on. Duffy Twins vid was short and so much went on there kats did not see it. So many have been fed on here when there was none. like giving a hungry mad food, but he still complainin b4 he even digests the blessing.
The best vid on Constellation is "Big K on 52 Blocks Combat and Breakdance" but it
gets the least amount of hits. There is so much in that vid people sleep on it cuz they dont know what they lookin at. Rahs best vid is "Enter the science of 52 Blocks" with him doin 52 on his knees with the young, that video got mad moves from back in the day when kats was doin 52 hoppin on their knees.
peace to the sincere who hit us up offline, and made manifest that the understanding has been understood. Our posts have always been for them. its interesting how the sincere know what and what not to say, how to build, etc. and most of all know protocol (code, etc.) and they didnt have to join anything to learn it. All praises due to the eldesr of this science. Peace to you.
another example of following protocol, didnt Big K say fall back on Rah cuz he is official? Why are you (Nak) saying D 52 is Sick, K 52 is sick but Rah 52 is flashy? is that following protocol in the culture or are you just with Constellation to learn the fight, but not follow the culture (ethics, codes, elders).
I never acted like an authority on 52,I ask questions. I ask why. THE TRUTH CAN ALWAYS BE QUESTIONED. As Far as Falling back goes,I was asked not to go after him on the tube. Since when is stating my opinion on his style getting at him? Is his style not flashy? I have fallen back but does'nt mean he will be my new pen pal. Where are you when jaysun7 speaks as an authority on 52,never ask's questions but has answers for everyone? My legit questions are met with contempt by you. WHY?
There is no contempt here. you have elders at Constellation do you not? you have 2 elders goin at it on their page on the vids. you still speakin on Rah after K said fall back. you not out of line? you speakin more than FarisiDaniel on here and u just beginnin in this. thats not out of line?
Nak,Homey i kno more 52 than u do n have a much better understanding! I have alot of questions about 52,thats y I ASK my teacher Rah about anything and many things! This is not just combat Nak,its our lifestyle!N the way u presenting urself jus makes u look bad! u sound jeolous as if u wish Rah was ur teacher or u don't want me to learn whats was written in the stars and 25thousand years in advance 4 me to learn! U just jeolous thats all n i and everyone else sees that!Black Devils are the worst
Habibi please leave me out of this. I fell back about 18 hours ago. Jealous? Never! I wish you nothing but success in your journey to learn 52. Please dont get it twisted though,falling back does not mean I will not reply to those who mention my name. Respectfully you sound like the riddler speaking about "written in the stars". My intentions are written in the comments. I intend to chill,but calling me a black devil will force me to invite you to settle this once and for all. Peace
...also kats dont have time policin 52 online, what was said was said as an example of what NOT to do. if the rest want to keep on doin that nonsense. Thats on them, the jewel was already dropped on what not to do if one wants to truly learn. the blind will lead the blind while the sincere will take heed.
Why speak on something you still are just beginning to understand. You are still learning how things roll. YOU STILL have to show and prove as well. So dont speak like all of a sudden you have all access. You just came on the scene and must still Show n Prove. Let your elder FarisiDaniel speak on what Show n Prove is and what it is not. For someone just starting to understand, let some one in the know speak. You already had many holes in your convo.
I ask why? I dont speak as an authority. Show me a hole in my convo. You said it yourself I am "just starting to understand" So I will ask questions. I dont have my questions censored or approved by anyone. As far as show and prove goes,I have had knowledge since the 80's so please dont act like I am new to code. Like I told you before I was picking the green tomatoes in the back of allah school(literally green tomatoes)across the street from the state building on 7th ave (adam clayton)
see now when I said whose open door I didnt mean all access, I mean open door for YOU to show and prove yourself that you sincere to receive the jewelz. watch FarisiDaniels video "Protocol" that alone should tell you those who dont have code (protocol) will not be given the jewelz to this. Even you Nakmeezy will get the surface until you have proven yourself. Dont think you have all access. There are many doors still closed to you. To open all the doors takes Showin and Provin.
Where were all yall when FarisiDaniel, myself and others were showin and provin the existence of this b4 youtube, the applications of breakdancing to this, etc. in a combative setting, no where. Nakmeezy you should fall back and let your elder Farisi speak instead, there is a lot you dont know. you just came on the scene.
52 is a small world where REAL recognize REAL and know whose who. The elders have already shown and proven in various ways which can only be detected by the few. Which is why the elders are the ones who can choose what they do with what they know. They alone have that privelege. and what their progeny show of them is constantly approved by them and the reasons were already stated.
I know we all saw the ericzac17 parody video. He obviously has been watching all the videos relative to 52. That parody (while meant to be funny) is a wake up call to all who hold 52 in the highest regard. Unfortunatley without showing these cats that 52 is official we end up looking like practitioners of other arts who say "my art is too deadly for competition" or "trust me I'm a master,ok?" lets show and prove.....SILENCE THE CRITICS!
Different people's 52 is going to look different based on certain factors(regional,size,personality etc) Is it to say that cause it is different it's wrong. Big K's 52 IN my opinion is sick. Rahmels is a little more flashy,Farisi's 52 is sick as well. I can say that because I could'nt touch him as I was getting banged up. If your 52 looks exactly like the next man's then how can you be nice with it if you dont do you? HOW do you balance personal flair while stayin true to 52?
Peace Perseverance, Im glad to see there are a FEW here online and offline who persevere with the jewelz being dropped and are paying attention and SEE whats imperative and of the essence here. It is you, the FEW, who we post for. Peace.
In those kung fu flicks they always made case and point to show the elder who was most proficient in the aspect of both mental and physical disciplines. why? to show that old wisdom is more thorough than young knowledge, know this, there is 2 types of knowledge, trick knowledge and right knowledge and to have right knowledge is to KNOW and have the EDGE on those that don't know.
sounds like this is zoklo7, good heads up on that, Bastards of the Party, all the people who say they have an interest in 52 should check it out, then perhaps they will overstand what you are doing, your best to educate them. I sincerly can appreciate the close door policy, its no different than the old channel 5 run run shaw kung fu flicks, where initiates of the shaolin temple defended against lets say the wu tang. Each temple had their martial art form(s) as well as their spirtual disciplines
continued>> Thus initiates would be tried and proven to see if they were worthy to learn the disciplines to become a spiritual warrior. I remember back in the days, we did a show with x - clan headlining, when we went to negotiate the contract, Sonny Carson was there, and anyone who entered the room would approach him and kiss his hand, a sign of respect to an elder,
So yeah, there is an entire culture people not seeing, if they truly knew they would see 52 is just the surface. and why its worth protecting and why people have to be tested b4 they really have access. This is not a sport, its a rite of passage. Just like some of your asian martial arts are which some never go commercial and you can call them scared all you want but go visit them and say it. come visit us and say it. u may not have the antitdote.
kiss his hand but we did let him know that we did appreciate him as an elder warrior in the struggle for our people. Keep doing what you do GOD, truthfully you have given enough already, you have given the gems, for those who are sincere they can find a ELDER who can perhaps turn them on to the art of 52.
you touching on some things,they may not overstand rites of passage,I am still traveling and always will be.what lodge will disclose its gems to those in darkness, sure they disclose some info to spark the interest of those who may be sincere, man folks read the story of cain and able and dont overstand that was an initiation into an order and cain succumb to his own ego. The ELDERS are there to guide with WISDOM,but our since of folly for wrong knowledge keeps us in opposition to true guidance
The fact that the yall are scared tactic was employed is at best juvenile and only detracts from the character and standing of any one who is beyond being a teenager. If any of those who really want to PROVE their sense of Granduer and Pseduo bravado, i suggest when they go to new york dont go to the village which is actually a cosmopolitan area. Take your challanges and tough talk to Medina where 52 is reknnown or the south bronx
Talk tough there and lay ya life on the line. Ask LB how to...
get there. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS LACK OF PROTOCOL, ETIQUETTE, CODE AND RESPECT WILL MOST LIKELY RESULT IN A GRAVE AND UNFAVORABLE OUTCOME. THIS LIKIHOOD INCREASES AND IS DOUBLY SO FOR TOURIST. TO EXPECT INDIGENOUS ARTS TO BE REVEALED TO PARASITES AND EXPONENTS OF EXPLOITATION IS ASSININE AT BEST. THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SHOWNED AND VENTURE OUTSIDE OF THAT TRUST ARE LABELED AS TRAITORS REGARDLESS HOW THEY CAMOFLAUGE THEIR INTENT, THERE EXIST OTHER WAYS TO BREAK NATIONS TOGETHER THAT DONT INCLUDE
Back in the day code,etiquette and respect were far more abundant. These are dying traits to say the least. How do we balance code,etc with showing the world the 52? Does the 52 have to be hidden and given to those that are proven worthy? If so,who and how determines who is worthy from who is'nt? If you subscribe to the thought that it is close door why even let the so called parasites even get a glimpse on youtube? Some who are labeled negatively have supported the movement in that they......
cont'd have purchased dvd's from all camps and have shown that they are interested in 52 and some have posted videos of what they learned from these clips. This shows a genuine interest in the art. Yet they only get bombed. Check out darness 52 blocks vid,that is str8 nonsense joking or not, Yet no one got on his vid (to my knowledge) bombing him? Why? Lastly,I dont think it's too much to ask that two specialist go at it full speed in the spirit of unity to show and prove. Silence the critics!
I have seen it full speed,I have been hit and yes I did go to the seminar. Maybe you misunderstood my comment. I already believe,but there are others who dont on the strength that they are not seeing what I already have. The K and Dahe niel clip was good but it was slowed down at points. Thus the full speed within my comment.
...again for the sincere watching this and have contacted me regarding 52s, JHR, KnKs, etc. CULTURE, who dont want to bastardize 52 from its Culture. and practice a carbon copy of it without its culture, elders, etc. watch "Bastards of the Party" on youtube and see what happens when "fighting" is divorced from culture, elders, etc.
lastly, there is nothing to show and prove any more, Rashad been proved this is effective, kats say he wasnt doing 52, but how they know when they dont know how 52 look like especially when somebody "camo" it. We done provin, again this is for the new comers reading this (you know who you are) who are sincere so they are not misled. again those who got mouths come visit the doors we got open.
Farisi: When'd I say 52 was Silat or Catch? I said Silat or Catch "for groundwork" -- meaning when I wanted to learn ground fighting I chose Catch and Silat Buaya. Catch is a "folk style and it's better than BJJ (my opinion) its more raw - Buaya more so.
We didn't call it "52" - I'm trying to build language rapport.
Our "elders" (uncles really) were Black American and Black Cuban -- mixed training.
how lyte so scared of Nak that he said Rah or i should fight him?!He puttin his weight on the next man cuz he can't hold his own!Lyte doesn't kno that its what he does'nt do that makes him the coward he is! N what u do is what makes u a so-called hero! Not saying i'm a hero but if some1 comes back 4 more we don't gotta do it 4 money we can do it 4 free!But he can sparr with a fat dude thats mad winded n not really swinging!N mad small chinese cats n lil sronny white boys!U fakeout!
Another thing is where were kats before youtube? Daniel and I been online for some time (for years b4 youtube) breakin ish down about JHR, 52, KnK, etc., where were kats then?
No where to be found. Now kats had time to read man info online, regurgitte ish they read, seen, etc. and now you got all these experts. Most of the terminologies they regurgitatin, we know where they got it from. Last time I checked bumrush was in Philly not in Cali.
Zogbara: I talked to a man via e-mail and he said "bumsrush" was not in "52" and I said that we never trained "52" but that there were strong similarities and our elders were from back-east and from cuba.
Am I the one in Youtube 52-dom that ever mentioned the "bumsrush" am I wrong?
I wanted to "exchange" but have been met with strong regulatory authority.
Let me make this clear. I did not "train" Duffy Brothers "52" never said that -- we talked before and I made myself very clear.
You said" Bumrush in Cali. Thats what I replied to. Bumursh aint in Cali. As as far as people calling stuff 52 elsewhere, I said umteen times that 52 is in NYC. anything else people makin ish up. JHR is another story. Yeah we spoke and you were NOT clear. You mentioned all type of things, from LA 52 and so forth. Lets leave it as that. I just know that a lot of people have things to say and still got know vids up showing they know something or someone who knows any thing.
Rah got an open door too, but kats still talkin that oh brothas talkin mystical, yadayadaya but kats still not trying to see Rah either. All this talk about no one out here wanna touch hands, etc. I just mentioned, Rah, K, Daniel, thats 3 who have the REAL, open door and still no visits. I wonder why..but then you got all these experts on youtube talkin trash, that this is all talk, no action. we know why too.
Daniel, now you are open-door and youve been telling kats for a while, come see you at the gym, you had a seminar and kats that have been talkin still didnt come see you (Lyte specifically). K and you even adressed Rah being the REAL and the rest that keep talkin ish come see you at the gym. Still no visits. meanwhile kats still got stuff to say here. Why not go see the man who got an open door? I think not.
lets pray 52 does not become like jazz, blues, or hip hop for that matter. or even capoeira. when others appropriate culture for financial gain. this is just scary.
no this is reality, this is what happens when people fail ask questions. when they email cats that know then post like we all are saying the same thing. If he truly wanted to learn 52. he would have seen other teachers, and asked why. take a shortcut and this is the results.
Elegba: Are you talking about what I said? If so I never said make "52" into the hip-hop industry, what?.
I said it was "improvisational" which is the beauty and why no two people look the same when playing it. Rah and Big K look different in use because of personal style and individual creativity.
Also, I'm not "selling" 52 for profit. If you were not talking to me than I appologise fully.
..and yes Big Ks 52 is REAL. Some of us have been online for several years now before youtube. hearing how Jailhouse (the precursor of 52) is a myth, etc. some of us disproved that way before youtube. There have been several Jailhouse Rock forums before youtube and we were successful proving several years ago Jailhouse exists. There have even been books published with those facts way b4 youtube.
again..you cant learn from videos, it has been said so many times by several you cant learn from videos. Duffy Twins (brothas) 52 is REAL (JHR, 52 and KnK), King Saladin 52 is REAL (JHR). Rahmel 52 (and only Rahmels) is REAL, Puma Boys 52 is REAL and yes Daniel Marks 52 is REAL. these were never meant to be learned from. They show elements, not instructionals.
again, with respect, its all "this art is incredible but we wont show u" etc. Smoke & mirrors. The elders, the elders etc. Basically its a waste of time. (to me). I'll keep an eye on lytes style (whatever you wana called it) but thats it. 52 is full of shit til i actually see 1 person fight with it. All we hear is Rashad Evans fights with it... no he doesnt. theres just footage of him saying its effective.
bruh give it up,you don't know what you're talking about. Unless you are saying 52 is Silat or Catch wrestling. But you're not where in LA is this style taught. We have family there too.
Again, with respect, if you ur not gona show & prove im not interested. I will follow proper MA that arent scared and who dont hide behind myths. Good luck to you and your art. Hope it works for you and helps you grow as a person, but til I c it actually being effective I wont post anything else.
Again, I mentioned 3 people (Rah, Big K, FarisiDaniel) who are open door and invited any unbelievers, and you still talkin people scared, hide behind myths, etc. and we all know each other and for some time now are aware of the ways people try to get knowledge of this science, and pimp it. That aint happenin either. sayin someone scared is an old tactic and dont work on the REAL.
this looks dangerous
YOUNGSAMMIE 7 months ago
@YOUNGSAMMIE thanks check out my other vids for sparring and training and search 52blocksinfo on youtube for my teacher Lyte Burly
dink1973dink 7 months ago
hey dinky,
Just want to know how you can make the transition from sparing to competition. If the blocks are to supposed to damage the opponents hands, is that not negated by gloves?
Also are the elbows to be only used as defence or can you strike with them?
almacint 1 year ago
lol fuck this 52 shit i got my own style and its fuckin good, easiest shit but so effective and actually speeds ya up
SiMo666suzukiRider 1 year ago
52 Blocks vs Stato Fist, a documentary on the history 52 Blocks in America, email danielmarks52@yahoo(dot)com to get a free viewer password to watch it online.
FarisiDaniel 2 years ago
how can i learn 52 ?
i1lestflaco973 2 years ago
@i1lestflaco973
You can buy instructional dvds at the website at the end of the clip,leave lyte a message on youtube 52blocksinfo,or if you're near NYC go to thompkins square park E10 Ave B
dink1973dink 2 years ago
@dink1973dink damn bro .. i remember this ... now look at me lol !! doing my thing .. its me kingshon !! Keep grinding you already !!
i1lestflaco973 1 year ago
@i1lestflaco973 yeah longtime you're doing great keep it going LGD
dink1973dink 1 year ago
Is this effective against a MMA fighter? I think that they would just kick and punch right through this and take down the 52 fighter very fast.
clearcombat 2 years ago
@clearcombat Yes it is effective,remember the blocks are situational this clip is just a demonstration of the first ten blocks.Behind the blocks Im still using footwoork,level changing,hitting forearm stops,using underhooks,whizzers and sprawls to stuff the takedown
dink1973dink 2 years ago
@dink1973dink
I've never heard of 'whizzers' is that a 52 term? thx in adv.
Donkyfishy 1 year ago
@Donkyfishy no its a wrestling term,like an overhook putting a lot of pressure down through the arm/shoulder (Im not a wrestler) do a youtube search for whizzer wrestling and you will see it
dink1973dink 1 year ago
@dink1973dink
ah, cheers
Donkyfishy 1 year ago
i'll BE THERE SOON 52BLOCKS UK COMING SOON THEY CAN'T STOP IT !!!!! LGD.
lyteburly52 2 years ago
We're ready over here,Onwards and Upwards LGD
dink1973dink 2 years ago
thankyou for the positive comments,once Lyte has been over here I'll be heading back to NY ,I'll let you know and make sure I see you.Thanks once again LGD
dink1973dink 2 years ago
All it takes to learn this style is for someone to teach you who knows it and the dedication to train. Think what you want about Dink's vid but the man is dedicated to his training like you would not believe. Just the fact alone that the man travels from the UK to the U.S. to learn should tell you something of his dedication. He is no easy win. Keep doing your thing Dink hope to see you next time you come to NY.
blackfoot71 2 years ago
lol thought whites couldnt learn this style? according to dennis newsome, what a joke
jamesinct 2 years ago
yes they can learn.52 is no joke
dink1973dink 2 years ago
This is just mimicry. Dance moves.
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
No it isnt I train and can use these moves (and more) in real time under pressure.Thanks for the comment
dink1973dink 2 years ago
well who'd you learn from? Some people say no one knows this shit anymore. Some people say, oh yeah i got it down.
???
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
Lyte Burly in NYC.I dont have it down Im just learning
dink1973dink 2 years ago
Alright. interesting i bet.
cheers
samuelmichaud 2 years ago
any code of conduct falls on the shoulders of the teacher not student byfar the teacher needs the student more then the student needs the teacher since every mans information is biased it is a blessing for a teacher to pass along his information and bias and its up to the student to remove the bias and keep a open mind this is what bruce spoke on fighting is free expression not imitation to copy what your teacher does is not learning on the highest level or is it understanding
lyteburly52 3 years ago
its the job of the student in his spare time to understand what he has been shown and through this process you find yourself not your teacher my understanding of 52 is my own because i lived with it and understand it my view may differ from others but with every man having different body types and skill each mans perception should be different if they were doing the work to copy your teacher is just flattery not understanding we know who yip man is because of his student bruce we know who
lyteburly52 3 years ago
eddie futch is because of his student joe frazier martial arts are not cults if as a student you have to act a certain way to get information then your in a ponzi scheme a real teacher has a obligation to pass on information and the student must recieve and carry the torch because of bruces dedication we know all of his teachers without that we wouldn't know who yip man was so the code of a teacher is to find young positive vessels to fill with information as the saying goes
lyteburly52 3 years ago
"when the student is ready the teacher appears"in this relationship the teacher needs the student more the only code the student needs is good wortk ethics and to do the work he dosen't need tpo carry his teacher on his shoulders actually the teacher carries the student and holds him in high regards because he represents the teachers life and if the teacher wants to be reconized without students he needs to become a fighter no one can take you to the next level only within self can that be done
lyteburly52 3 years ago
yes SIR 52A.O.D NO RELIGON NO CODE NO NONSENSE JUST THE ART OF DEFENSE AND HOW NOT TO BE HIT EVEN THOUGH ITS THE GIFT OF BLACK MEN THIS ART IS FOR ALL MEN AS THE SAYING THAT CLARENCE 13X MADE FAMOUS I'M PRO BLACK NOT ANTIWHITE MUCH LOVE TO ALL
lyteburly52 3 years ago
Lyte, code is important. Code can mean the difference between somebody who has your back and someone who will stab you in your back. The problem that I have with certain people who rep 52 and speak so much on code is that they are looking at code in a very narrow- minded point of view. That may be a product of them stating 52 Hand Blocks is only meant for a few. You can be someone who possesses code, but if you question them in any kind of way to the contrary, all of a sudden, it's no longer...
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
..all good. Know they are questioning whether you are the person they thought you were. But the questioning is coming from an already flawed, narrow-minded focus and foundation. I am a very broad-minded type of individual so I can see and acknowledge all points of views, even those opposite or in conflict with mine. That's cool, though. I possess the type of mentality that breeds development and promotes evolvement. Narrow-mindedness in people who claim they have code is a character flaw...
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
A character flaw like this breeds division, unnecessary paranoia, faux superiority complexes, and stalled development and evolvement (just to name a few). I see individuals that post on here like they are righteous, just, and pure behaving the total opposite. Individuals saying that they are humble and throwing the word PEACE around like it's fertilizer on a lawn, but yet, you look at some of their rantings and it's laced with invitations of violence, of things that are far from humble...
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
...yet these same individuals are the ones preaching no 52 without culture. These same individuals are conducting themselves exactly like the vultures and snakes they are trying to shield 52 from. The one thing I give credit to FarisiDaniel on is him saying ASK WHY. Now I'm view several individuals skeptically who rep 52, not because I lack code, but because certain individuals display character flaws that make me question their (code), as it relates to 52.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
real tALK to have a code of conduct is very important but just to throw the word around sounds more like what you hear from cults to say people can learn only if they learn code you should present the code and people can decide if they want to follow but just to use code and tell people you should call men that you don't know elders sounds incorrect how do you know what that man represents a real man will teach you how to be a man not be a follower of men all fighting is self expression
lyteburly52 3 years ago
so there is no code that can call itself correct if its telling you not express yourself as you any code that goes against yourself is no code thats oppression and if training with men other then black men is going against a code then thats no code thats just another mans bias like i have said i remember no code there is culture thats what i rep and support there were alot of 52 practioners that were criminals but where not here to talk about the criminals of 52 we are suppose to be discussing
lyteburly52 3 years ago
the system and how young black men nowadays must have not been taught the code because they are killing each other they don't have the know how to defend themselves so they grab guns BROOKLYN has become the home of gun fights and not to long ago it was the home of 52 where you could get a fist fight because brothers knew how to the confidence of fighting is gone and that is where 52 is truly needed instead we have infighting over whos not doing 52 YET KNOW ONE IS GOING TO SHOW REAL 52
lyteburly52 3 years ago
sounds like game black culture has never been afraid to show its gifts and customs we help create the word bling from rap to basketball if you have the talent and know how and its positive brothers are showing but all of sudden when it comes to 52 you would keep it from other black men like i said THIS IS GAME i will continue to what i do repping what black men have done for years way before the politics that have been attached AND TO THE YOUNG MEN ANYBODY UNDER 20 I WILL TRAIN FOR FREE LGD
lyteburly52 3 years ago
Big up the 52A.O.D Movement.
calvinbones 3 years ago
next STOP OHIO 52A.O.D
lyteburly52 3 years ago
yo cuz, this is why i try not to read the comments posted. Embarrassing to see my people focus on the negative & destroy themselves on a public stage for the world to see. instant gratification IS the death of honor in these times we live in. Many will come, few are chosen. without the history, the future id doomed. Wake up people. Violence begats violence. Learn your history, study your craft. WISDOM is IMMORTAL!
ImperialKing73 3 years ago
"Bastards of the Party" (Documentary)
"Things Fall Apart" (Book)
by Chinua Achebe
"...terrible silence of dead civilizations in which once there was valor."
Infinite Power of Liberty: (Book)
The Sovereign Spirit of Indigenous Patriotism
by Heru Sut El
"Daughters of the Dust" (Book and Movie)
by Julie Dash
zogbara 3 years ago
This is the real, and every step has a path.
let the journey begin. Even the blind will find their way with out a hand
peace Bruh.
FarisiDaniel 3 years ago
Things are not getting better nowadays, if only people realize the STORM thats coming. While our people fight each other, it will already be too late. The sincere already get the message and wont be able to help those rejected the message. One.
zogbara 3 years ago
There is a saying in the african traditions, the TRUTH kills from the INSIDE. Only the FEW know what that means. not all food is good for you. so yes, please let the vultures and snakes keep on eating. GENBETKIMANJEANDEDAN!
zogbara 3 years ago
"Bastards of the Party" (Documentary)
"Things Fall Apart" (Book)
by Chinua Achebe
"...terrible silence of dead civilizations in which once there was valor."
Infinite Power of Liberty: (Book)
The Sovereign Spirit of Indigenous Patriotism
by Heru Sut El
"Daughters of the Dust" (Book and Movie)
by Julie Dash
zogbara 3 years ago
again Bastards of the Party. many Panthers became Bastards when they threw code out the window. now you got a whole bunch of gang bangin and tough talk, very good for our people. Elders who are trying to stop the destruction they once contributed to amd are trying to make a difference and STOP the negative cycle. now that they are embracing CODE they are called soft and some get pulled back into the violence. some elders are strong and dont succumb to the weakness of the ego.
zogbara 3 years ago
These are REAL men and true warriors who walked through the fires that none of these youngins would have been through or have the heat to walk. true warriors have nothing to prove cuz they know what they can do and will only teach the TRUE.
zogbara 3 years ago
So true. I have no argument here.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
An analogy was made about giving a hungry man food and rather than appreciate the plate he's already asking for more. Why the hell would you feed a snake,vulture,devil,85, Kafir a plate in the first place? You dont! you dont let someone eat and say "that food was'nt for you" you just served them! Close the kitchen if you dont like the clientel.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
there is a reason why you cant understand the analogy. its cuz its not for you to understand. these posts are for the sincere and not matter how much you dont like it, it is being commended. and yes I have elders who censor my posts. its called code, culture.
zogbara 3 years ago
Amen
stevieb8006 3 years ago
back to the sincere:
"Things Fall Apart" (Book)
by Chinua Achebe
"...terrible silence of dead civilizations in which once there was valor."
Infinite Power of Liberty: (Book)
The Sovereign Spirit of Indigenous Patriotism
by Heru Sut El
"Daughters of the Dust" (Book and Movie)
by Julie Dash
zogbara 3 years ago
Again, what we post here is NOT for the vultures and snakes to understand. It is for the sincere. They understand why. Those who dont get angry because they dont have the necessray attributes to and it infuriates them why we still post. It is not for them to understand. We and the sincere know why.
zogbara 3 years ago
..we have said time and time again what we post here is just the surface and for the sincere. Why we post to begin with does not concern you and your comments will not stop it neither. It only validates who is who. If it does not bother you, then why keep commenting about it? Keep it movin.
zogbara 3 years ago
I've never asked you to stop posting; I've benefitted from what you've shared and it does not bother me at all. Continue to do so. I'm sure you also know that the vultures and snakes beg you to keep posting too. The more one talks, the more information they give, the more they expose. I have no qualms with the stance you're taking. Since I don't have a problem with it, I will quit commenting and keep it moving.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
yes surface information is good while the DEEP info is preserved. we already said we only post surface here. vultures and snakes who despise it only show who is who. as for kats mad at the REAL in its entirety not being sold, commercialized and shown in its entirety to bait people by calling them scared, cant fight, etc. last time I checked the REAL got nothing to prove. especially to kats with no CODE.
zogbara 3 years ago
Not all vultures and snakes DESPISE it. Like the sincere, they are capable of absorbing and preserving the DEEP info too, which is why they would welcome you to keep posting. Hence you are aiding them.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
Surface or deep, it doesn't matter with snakes and vultures just as long as you continue to aide them. Some of the best answers are to questions you never had to open your mouth to ask.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
aiding them with the surface info? Ok. So I guess from this surface info they can extract the entire plethora of combatives and the culture that goes along with it. wow these are some bad dudes. Wow. Trust me, we not worried about it. and with those with big mouths here knew who some of the elders were they would keep their mouth shut but its ok. thats why we post for many reasons.
zogbara 3 years ago
No, aiding them with ANY INFO, surface or otherwise. Vultures and snakes don't always have their eye on the entire plethora. Take vultures, for example. They are usually led to the kill by other predators who have already done the work. They usually get the leftovers, not the entire kill (the entire plethora). Does it matter. Not nearly always because they thrive off scavenging and leftovers. They benefit regardless of how you want to play it. The less work the better.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
Vultures will say, 'Good, let your posts be for the sincere, meanwhile I'll gather what I can (doesn't matter if it's not all of it), digest it, and sustain myself with food that wasn't meant for me'. The point being, 'I didn't have to work to get the food I got. I didn't have to go through the struggles and shed blood, I didn't have to make the kill, yet I'm eatin' anyway. Even it the food is tainted, it don't matter, my stomach is built especially to digest that too'.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
there are those who commend our posts and ask it to continue cuz the it must be heard by those who are trying to understand. this is for those who UNDERSTAND the struggle. cuz thats what it is, a struggle to get people to understand and it is these posts you despise that have helped the FEW understand so it WILL continue.
zogbara 3 years ago
these posts are also for those who know as well that there is light in the darkness.
"Things Fall Apart" (Book)
by Chinua Achebe
"...terrible silence of dead civilizations in which once there was valor."
Infinite Power of Liberty: (Book)
The Sovereign Spirit of Indigenous Patriotism
by Heru Sut El
"Daughters of the Dust" (Book and Movie)
by Julie Dash
zogbara 3 years ago
"Things Fall Apart" (Book)
by Chinua Achebe
"...terrible silence of dead civilizations in which once there was valor."
Infinite Power of Liberty: (Book)
The Sovereign Spirit of Indigenous Patriotism
by Heru Sut El
"Daughters of the Dust" (Book and Movie)
by Julie Dash
zogbara 3 years ago
as the old saying in the language of some of the elders go "SI OU VIO LE, LE KAY LAN KRA ZE, SE SOU TET WOU MEM LAP TON BE!". Peace.
zogbara 3 years ago
lets understand what utube is, just about any visual image at ur fingertips, for the WORLD to c, would bruce lee go on utube? i feel that some things r hard to earn and rightfully so and some questions u got to earn the right to ask
but if ur put in a situation to get CLOSER to the answer instead of getting the answer right away then that man is pussy?
whats funny is alot of the so called haters want to learn soooo bad and they want everything in a nutshell reeaal quick but history has shown
mastercheestee 3 years ago
that that cant happen cuz its chaos!
has anyone everseen a lil kid walkin a full grown pitbull?
cats get frustrated wit da analogies but sometimes analogies is used 4 babies cuz they cant think straight up
im not a master or an expert just an observer and these r my thoughts, but dont get it twisted i ask maad questions too
salute to the honorable
mastercheestee 3 years ago
One is labeled a "pussy" when they talk tough but refuse to back up tough talk. Seems like there are two schools of thought on 52. The do'ers and the talkers. When it comes to 52 make NO MISTAKE it is a FIGHTING ART. SOME CHOOSE TO LEARN THE FIGHT ASPECT WITHOUT THE CODE,ETC FORCED ON THEM BY THOSE THAT CANT FIGHT. If you dont like it fade to black and keep it moving. If my trainer only knew the history of fighting but could'nt fight he would have no credibility.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
this whole thing how we act on here reminds me of exactly why a lot of people lost their culture...some african tribal warriors warring each other while colonialists were plottin on the very people warring until it was too late and they were in chains and the people behind it was not only colonists but some of our own people who had beef with the next man. when will we stop repeating history?
zogbara 3 years ago
watch Apocalypto, same story.
zogbara 3 years ago
does everybody respect Bruce Lee what did he do to prove his system except challenges and he lost some and won most but he put his shit against others the 52 has not taking that step except for lyte but ya said he doesn't no 52 which is straight bullshit just plain jealousy so lets see if it's the best system in my words there ain't no system thats the best just the people who carry them so lets see 52 move with other if you sure of your shit do something with it and stop talking
angelisone1 3 years ago
why mention bruce when muhammad ali and others have done the same and bruce quoted muhammadi all the time"float like a butterfly sting like a bee" and gave bruce his swagga (game of death". also Constellation been put challenges out to all who doubt no one came to their gym. so pleaz brotha pleaz stop spreadin misinfo.
zogbara 3 years ago
I ask you all not cuz Im any body to you, I ask this for your people, that is all.
zogbara 3 years ago
there is a clip 1 of the 52 documentaries where a dude is saying u shouldnt use 52 againt one who doesnt know it because its THAT dangerous, in my opinion the 52 is about more then fighting, therefore i cant see someone displaying it just because... but alot of people r on some gimme gimme, lemme see shit, if i shed blood to get something y would i risk exposing its worth to potential vultures jus cause the next man called me a name when in my heart i know my posessions is priceless
mastercheestee 3 years ago
But mastercheestee, a question that has already been asked here several times is, basically, 'if you've shed blood to get this, if shedding light on the 52 risks you exposing it's worth to potential vultures and snakes...then why be on Youtube?' If this answer is to help the sincere, then one must also understand that in doing this, you will be directly aiding the people you're trying to avoid. If the goal is to help the sincere, it can be done in private email or in person.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
If you insist on contuining to do work on behalf of the sincere, still posting on Youtube, still going back and forth with people you say are vultures and snakes...instead of following your own advice and falling back...you are the problem, not the vultures and snakes you're trying to guard the worth of 52 from.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
watch "Bastards of the Party" on youtube and see what happens to a people without culture, without code and no unity, elders went underground a long time ago cuz of this very reason and now there our people remain Bastards (with no elders) because many of them have chose that cuz there is no longer respect for the elders. I hope we all find peace eventually. to the few who understand our struggle peace and thanks to you.
zogbara 3 years ago
then when katz see there are other katz who are sincere on here katz get mad think its me posting under other names, then when they realize its not me, ask katz for their lineage, who taught them and personal info just like they did me like they are priveleged to that info..then snake the same dude they gettin info from. then we wonder why our people dont have unity... there is no code, no trust, etc.
zogbara 3 years ago
...then i open one again and try to help out again...but again and again we never learn. all the meanwhile i ALWAYS say im Zo. never hid behind any name, post the same vids, drop jewelz, etc. when u close an account here u cant open it back up as the last one cuz its closed 4 ever. its only a few who are willing to build and not destroy one another. peace to those few. for the rest who want to continue warring. i hope you find peace.
zogbara 3 years ago
and for those who wonder why i open an account then close it then re-open another one its cuz of this nonsense right here. every time i try to help my people this is what i see, arguing, bickering, snakin and all type of ish this is the reason why i open one account then get tired of this ish, close it, then see so much damage being done and people ask me back to bring healing,
zogbara 3 years ago
But you're apart of the problem, though. Why? Because you are continually aiding people who you deem as vultures, snakes, and insincere by continuing to post on the jewels of 52 and culture instead of falling back. You're inflicting punishment and damage on yourself because you're not heeding your own words. You can't complain and yet participate at the same time.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
the posts we post are for the sincere inside those who want to change, ive met a few sincere people on here who once had no idea what code until one of the posts hit home. thie is for them and others out there who truly dont know and are searching for the path. obviously, this message is not for you. so dont worry about who this message is for, the sincere know who they are. there are those who dont know yet but will.
zogbara 3 years ago
Again, if you're on Youtube going back and forth with a bunch of people who you deem unappreciative, vultures, snakes, and insincere instead of falling back, you're just as much apart of the problem as they are. You can't complain about gunfire, yet participate in gun battles. All of what you speak can be done through private email or in person, not on Youtube. None of what I said indicates that I am worrying about who the message is for.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
point proven...you're pussy.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
nakmeezy for the sake of peace for our people, this is also not setting a good example. please lets stop this already. speak offline if you have to settle this but not for the whole world to see.
zogbara 3 years ago
U talkin some mma gloves n some ring nonsense! U want me,i'm in the streets n thats my home so come get me!U kno where to find me devil! No more words 4 u!
jaysun7 3 years ago
jaysun please for the sake of peace and unity for our people, this is not setting a good example.
zogbara 3 years ago
in the supreme wisdom lessons, lessons 1-40 question #34 ask,can u reform devil?Answer: NO! So all the talking the elders have done on here, their words have meant nothing to some! This dude is the most negative person on the tube n then join constellation so he can learn for his own personal gain! Not caring nothing about code or anything else! Jus wants to leech off the other man's knowledge of 52 n go his way after he is done learning what he wants!52 is done in the street or behind da g wall
jaysun7 3 years ago
IM SURPRISED YOUR TEACHER HAS'NT TOLD YOU TO CHILL. If he's putting batteries in your back,you better pull them shits out. Anyone with two eyes can see that you are not on my level. Thats ok though...you can still get it.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
Jaysun7 ask rahmel if you can go to the dojo.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
Not saying cuz u 35 u old! Just saying u probly mad cuz i'm learning at a younger age than u are! Rah is 40+ n is in better shape than most of the young dudes n the old timers in the streets!I don't sleep on no1. As 4 u kicking my teeth down my throat, i doubt it!All yall dudes that wanna harm me,come to 3333. Or in the South Bronx, close to the stadium!U not coming for a street fight, Y? U talkin like u a thug so be it!U just want rules when u fight!I don't! Keep underestimating me tho!
jaysun7 3 years ago
I mean no rules but not in the street. I dont have a record and dont want one for pounding you out. angelisone has a spot for us to bang,no rules just fighting. "ALL YALL DUDE'S THA WANNA HARM ME" You sound pussy! pick a spot other than a street corner in concourse village.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
we could use where i Teach Invitations are open its a dojo so let me know and there won't be no sneeky shit
angelisone1 3 years ago
Riddle me this riddle me that riddle me this riddle me that who the fuck has answers seriously
angelisone1 3 years ago
When you get the heart to stop singing and start swinging let me know. I will go to a place of your choosing as long as it is a gym dojo etc and we can do it once and for all. MMA gloves so you can easily wave your hands around before I kick your teeth down your throat. I am not a street brawler therefore I will not go to 3333 bway across from the c town for a streetfight. Do you need monetary incentive? let's do it for a G. There are others who wanna beat your ass too but I got dibs.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
Mr.flight risk said i have my chest poked out ready 4 some1 to come test me n what not! He's about close to 40 n saying that! I guess i'm not suppose to feel confident!Nak say i speak like i'm an authority in 52! Well more than he is cuz i have more knowkedge than he does in this arena! I will never disrespect myself n the elders by acting like an authority! I'm a baby n still crawling but theres babies that can still be really effective with this! They see the growth n development n are worried
jaysun7 3 years ago
My point is that if u aint learn 52 while u were coming of age as a young man n didn't have a teacher to teach u the science of 52 don't make comments about me saying how pumpous i feel cuz u see i have confidence in myself and believe in 52blocks!Thats like saying if u learn how to dunk n u got the open lane don't dunk if dunking is your specialty! So Peace to the God's n the Earths N the Elders! Peace!Basically dudes who boats have passed r mad cuz its time 4 the new generation to come up!
jaysun7 3 years ago
My man,YOU'RE 24 YEARS OLD! MY SON IS THE NEXT GENERATION AT 7 YEARS OLD. YOU ARE NO TEENY BOPPER. DOES'NT MATTER WHEN I WAS RE-EXPOSED TO 52. I found it! So back to my original question.When can we put your 52 to the test against me. I'm an old fuck so it should'nt be hard for you. Let me guess"you're always on defense" Thats a cop out. NO MORE LONG TALK.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
i just want to add on about something! People that r interested in 52blocks on the tube n within these pages act like the older they are the more authority they have n more of a right to speak on 52 than i, cuz i'm younger than they are! By ten years or so! in my humble opinion i think its jeolousy! N when ur boat passes u by then u start to look at the younger generation and start hating cuz u wish u had time to develop and grow within the art as a young man!So my name keep comin up cuz a hate
jaysun7 3 years ago
Cant keep your mouth shut huh? Yes I am 35 years old and in the best shape of my life. So dont sleep on me. ever hear of GROWN MAN STRENGTH? I have that plus skills,technique and speed. So again you sound ignorant. Your not even young anymore. Your too damn old to have this homo erotic fixation with rahmel. You sound like a school girl with a crush on the capt of the football team. I ask questions on 52 YOU speak as an authority.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
Look I dont fuck with nobody, I dont start shit! BUT I got a MEAN KNUCKLE GAME and this is the bottom of the 9th inning and the bases are loaded and I'm grand slamming them all out the park! Dont believe me come to 3333 THE DOORS ARE OPEN and the deception is evident.
IMmr52 3 years ago
Bastards of the Party:
I saw this on HBO Demand probably earlier this year or last year. Had forgot all about it. Soon as I saw 'Bone' and his homies in the park, it all came back. Definitely recommend a view.
mrflightrisk 3 years ago
yo these guys be opening new accounts on youtube just to hide there true colors yellow
angelisone1 3 years ago
ego is mans greatest enemy, once ego can be suppress then can man elevate, no offense meant here, but one should not worry about what 52 has for the world, concerns should be what 52 has for the individual, zogbara mentions often that 52 is more than fight its spiritual also, and that journey we all take as an individual, so it has to be stated what can 52 do for me, first and foremost, he also states that kats need to have code if you lack that then naught will be taught to he who sought.
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
P-roper E-ducation A-lways C-orrects E-rrors.
zogbara 3 years ago
and with those words that will be my last post.
zogbara 3 years ago
no doubt
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
This has been flagged as spam show
perseverance, now kats saying that you and i are the same people aint that some ish? kats will say anything when they hatin.
zogbara 3 years ago
If you have questions ask your elders, why ask like some one who still lookin? you say Show n Prove but Show n Prove is more than fighting. Didnt FarisiDaniel say that already on protocol? this is more than just vid clips.
zogbara 3 years ago
I already know that calls will be made for me to stop being taught. I will therefore thank Brother FARISI DANIELS,BIG K,HASSAN(GIANT)DOUG CENTURY for all they have shown and taught me in this short time. Also to lyte burley for having the balls to move with anyone who came to the park(even if was'nt 52)With that I will seek knowledge elsewhere PEACE. How's that for code? (zoklo,zogbara,ifevo)
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
huh? Calls being made? Now what are you talkin bout???, this is exactly what I mean, katz jumpin the gun without the proper understanding of whats being said. calls? thats not how we roll. Your journey is your journey, and I commend you for it...all Im saying is follow protocol, you say you know what it is but you already broke many. speak to your elders. Peace.
zogbara 3 years ago
PumaBoys best vid was Zig-Zag-Zig, a lot was goin on their too but it was one of the vids kats slept on. Duffy Twins vid was short and so much went on there kats did not see it. So many have been fed on here when there was none. like giving a hungry mad food, but he still complainin b4 he even digests the blessing.
zogbara 3 years ago
The best vid on Constellation is "Big K on 52 Blocks Combat and Breakdance" but it
gets the least amount of hits. There is so much in that vid people sleep on it cuz they dont know what they lookin at. Rahs best vid is "Enter the science of 52 Blocks" with him doin 52 on his knees with the young, that video got mad moves from back in the day when kats was doin 52 hoppin on their knees.
zogbara 3 years ago
peace to the sincere who hit us up offline, and made manifest that the understanding has been understood. Our posts have always been for them. its interesting how the sincere know what and what not to say, how to build, etc. and most of all know protocol (code, etc.) and they didnt have to join anything to learn it. All praises due to the eldesr of this science. Peace to you.
zogbara 3 years ago
another example of following protocol, didnt Big K say fall back on Rah cuz he is official? Why are you (Nak) saying D 52 is Sick, K 52 is sick but Rah 52 is flashy? is that following protocol in the culture or are you just with Constellation to learn the fight, but not follow the culture (ethics, codes, elders).
zogbara 3 years ago
I never acted like an authority on 52,I ask questions. I ask why. THE TRUTH CAN ALWAYS BE QUESTIONED. As Far as Falling back goes,I was asked not to go after him on the tube. Since when is stating my opinion on his style getting at him? Is his style not flashy? I have fallen back but does'nt mean he will be my new pen pal. Where are you when jaysun7 speaks as an authority on 52,never ask's questions but has answers for everyone? My legit questions are met with contempt by you. WHY?
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
There is no contempt here. you have elders at Constellation do you not? you have 2 elders goin at it on their page on the vids. you still speakin on Rah after K said fall back. you not out of line? you speakin more than FarisiDaniel on here and u just beginnin in this. thats not out of line?
zogbara 3 years ago
Nak,Homey i kno more 52 than u do n have a much better understanding! I have alot of questions about 52,thats y I ASK my teacher Rah about anything and many things! This is not just combat Nak,its our lifestyle!N the way u presenting urself jus makes u look bad! u sound jeolous as if u wish Rah was ur teacher or u don't want me to learn whats was written in the stars and 25thousand years in advance 4 me to learn! U just jeolous thats all n i and everyone else sees that!Black Devils are the worst
jaysun7 3 years ago
Habibi please leave me out of this. I fell back about 18 hours ago. Jealous? Never! I wish you nothing but success in your journey to learn 52. Please dont get it twisted though,falling back does not mean I will not reply to those who mention my name. Respectfully you sound like the riddler speaking about "written in the stars". My intentions are written in the comments. I intend to chill,but calling me a black devil will force me to invite you to settle this once and for all. Peace
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
...also kats dont have time policin 52 online, what was said was said as an example of what NOT to do. if the rest want to keep on doin that nonsense. Thats on them, the jewel was already dropped on what not to do if one wants to truly learn. the blind will lead the blind while the sincere will take heed.
zogbara 3 years ago
Why speak on something you still are just beginning to understand. You are still learning how things roll. YOU STILL have to show and prove as well. So dont speak like all of a sudden you have all access. You just came on the scene and must still Show n Prove. Let your elder FarisiDaniel speak on what Show n Prove is and what it is not. For someone just starting to understand, let some one in the know speak. You already had many holes in your convo.
zogbara 3 years ago
I ask why? I dont speak as an authority. Show me a hole in my convo. You said it yourself I am "just starting to understand" So I will ask questions. I dont have my questions censored or approved by anyone. As far as show and prove goes,I have had knowledge since the 80's so please dont act like I am new to code. Like I told you before I was picking the green tomatoes in the back of allah school(literally green tomatoes)across the street from the state building on 7th ave (adam clayton)
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
see now when I said whose open door I didnt mean all access, I mean open door for YOU to show and prove yourself that you sincere to receive the jewelz. watch FarisiDaniels video "Protocol" that alone should tell you those who dont have code (protocol) will not be given the jewelz to this. Even you Nakmeezy will get the surface until you have proven yourself. Dont think you have all access. There are many doors still closed to you. To open all the doors takes Showin and Provin.
zogbara 3 years ago
Where were all yall when FarisiDaniel, myself and others were showin and provin the existence of this b4 youtube, the applications of breakdancing to this, etc. in a combative setting, no where. Nakmeezy you should fall back and let your elder Farisi speak instead, there is a lot you dont know. you just came on the scene.
zogbara 3 years ago
52 is a small world where REAL recognize REAL and know whose who. The elders have already shown and proven in various ways which can only be detected by the few. Which is why the elders are the ones who can choose what they do with what they know. They alone have that privelege. and what their progeny show of them is constantly approved by them and the reasons were already stated.
zogbara 3 years ago
I know we all saw the ericzac17 parody video. He obviously has been watching all the videos relative to 52. That parody (while meant to be funny) is a wake up call to all who hold 52 in the highest regard. Unfortunatley without showing these cats that 52 is official we end up looking like practitioners of other arts who say "my art is too deadly for competition" or "trust me I'm a master,ok?" lets show and prove.....SILENCE THE CRITICS!
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
Different people's 52 is going to look different based on certain factors(regional,size,personality etc) Is it to say that cause it is different it's wrong. Big K's 52 IN my opinion is sick. Rahmels is a little more flashy,Farisi's 52 is sick as well. I can say that because I could'nt touch him as I was getting banged up. If your 52 looks exactly like the next man's then how can you be nice with it if you dont do you? HOW do you balance personal flair while stayin true to 52?
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
48 laws of power brainwashed Lyte Burly, that "kind" of science teaches one how 2 B A SNAKE.........
IMmr52 3 years ago
Peace Perseverance, Im glad to see there are a FEW here online and offline who persevere with the jewelz being dropped and are paying attention and SEE whats imperative and of the essence here. It is you, the FEW, who we post for. Peace.
zogbara 3 years ago
In those kung fu flicks they always made case and point to show the elder who was most proficient in the aspect of both mental and physical disciplines. why? to show that old wisdom is more thorough than young knowledge, know this, there is 2 types of knowledge, trick knowledge and right knowledge and to have right knowledge is to KNOW and have the EDGE on those that don't know.
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
sounds like this is zoklo7, good heads up on that, Bastards of the Party, all the people who say they have an interest in 52 should check it out, then perhaps they will overstand what you are doing, your best to educate them. I sincerly can appreciate the close door policy, its no different than the old channel 5 run run shaw kung fu flicks, where initiates of the shaolin temple defended against lets say the wu tang. Each temple had their martial art form(s) as well as their spirtual disciplines
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
continued>> Thus initiates would be tried and proven to see if they were worthy to learn the disciplines to become a spiritual warrior. I remember back in the days, we did a show with x - clan headlining, when we went to negotiate the contract, Sonny Carson was there, and anyone who entered the room would approach him and kiss his hand, a sign of respect to an elder,
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
So yeah, there is an entire culture people not seeing, if they truly knew they would see 52 is just the surface. and why its worth protecting and why people have to be tested b4 they really have access. This is not a sport, its a rite of passage. Just like some of your asian martial arts are which some never go commercial and you can call them scared all you want but go visit them and say it. come visit us and say it. u may not have the antitdote.
zogbara 3 years ago
, I didn't
kiss his hand but we did let him know that we did appreciate him as an elder warrior in the struggle for our people. Keep doing what you do GOD, truthfully you have given enough already, you have given the gems, for those who are sincere they can find a ELDER who can perhaps turn them on to the art of 52.
peace
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
you touching on some things,they may not overstand rites of passage,I am still traveling and always will be.what lodge will disclose its gems to those in darkness, sure they disclose some info to spark the interest of those who may be sincere, man folks read the story of cain and able and dont overstand that was an initiation into an order and cain succumb to his own ego. The ELDERS are there to guide with WISDOM,but our since of folly for wrong knowledge keeps us in opposition to true guidance
perseveranceprevails 3 years ago
The fact that the yall are scared tactic was employed is at best juvenile and only detracts from the character and standing of any one who is beyond being a teenager. If any of those who really want to PROVE their sense of Granduer and Pseduo bravado, i suggest when they go to new york dont go to the village which is actually a cosmopolitan area. Take your challanges and tough talk to Medina where 52 is reknnown or the south bronx
Talk tough there and lay ya life on the line. Ask LB how to...
harvydent7154 3 years ago
get there. THE FACT OF THE MATTER IS LACK OF PROTOCOL, ETIQUETTE, CODE AND RESPECT WILL MOST LIKELY RESULT IN A GRAVE AND UNFAVORABLE OUTCOME. THIS LIKIHOOD INCREASES AND IS DOUBLY SO FOR TOURIST. TO EXPECT INDIGENOUS ARTS TO BE REVEALED TO PARASITES AND EXPONENTS OF EXPLOITATION IS ASSININE AT BEST. THOSE WHO HAVE BEEN SHOWNED AND VENTURE OUTSIDE OF THAT TRUST ARE LABELED AS TRAITORS REGARDLESS HOW THEY CAMOFLAUGE THEIR INTENT, THERE EXIST OTHER WAYS TO BREAK NATIONS TOGETHER THAT DONT INCLUDE
harvydent7154 3 years ago
Back in the day code,etiquette and respect were far more abundant. These are dying traits to say the least. How do we balance code,etc with showing the world the 52? Does the 52 have to be hidden and given to those that are proven worthy? If so,who and how determines who is worthy from who is'nt? If you subscribe to the thought that it is close door why even let the so called parasites even get a glimpse on youtube? Some who are labeled negatively have supported the movement in that they......
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
cont'd have purchased dvd's from all camps and have shown that they are interested in 52 and some have posted videos of what they learned from these clips. This shows a genuine interest in the art. Yet they only get bombed. Check out darness 52 blocks vid,that is str8 nonsense joking or not, Yet no one got on his vid (to my knowledge) bombing him? Why? Lastly,I dont think it's too much to ask that two specialist go at it full speed in the spirit of unity to show and prove. Silence the critics!
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
How can you say that when FarisiDaniel and K already did that on youtube? You also went to the seminar. I dont get it...
zogbara 3 years ago
I have seen it full speed,I have been hit and yes I did go to the seminar. Maybe you misunderstood my comment. I already believe,but there are others who dont on the strength that they are not seeing what I already have. The K and Dahe niel clip was good but it was slowed down at points. Thus the full speed within my comment.
NAKMEEZY 3 years ago
...again for the sincere watching this and have contacted me regarding 52s, JHR, KnKs, etc. CULTURE, who dont want to bastardize 52 from its Culture. and practice a carbon copy of it without its culture, elders, etc. watch "Bastards of the Party" on youtube and see what happens when "fighting" is divorced from culture, elders, etc.
zogbara 3 years ago
lastly, there is nothing to show and prove any more, Rashad been proved this is effective, kats say he wasnt doing 52, but how they know when they dont know how 52 look like especially when somebody "camo" it. We done provin, again this is for the new comers reading this (you know who you are) who are sincere so they are not misled. again those who got mouths come visit the doors we got open.
zogbara 3 years ago
Farisi: When'd I say 52 was Silat or Catch? I said Silat or Catch "for groundwork" -- meaning when I wanted to learn ground fighting I chose Catch and Silat Buaya. Catch is a "folk style and it's better than BJJ (my opinion) its more raw - Buaya more so.
We didn't call it "52" - I'm trying to build language rapport.
Our "elders" (uncles really) were Black American and Black Cuban -- mixed training.
Open-Source has nthng to do with Open-Door.
O-S just means free-to-all-to-dissect
OctoBox 3 years ago
how lyte so scared of Nak that he said Rah or i should fight him?!He puttin his weight on the next man cuz he can't hold his own!Lyte doesn't kno that its what he does'nt do that makes him the coward he is! N what u do is what makes u a so-called hero! Not saying i'm a hero but if some1 comes back 4 more we don't gotta do it 4 money we can do it 4 free!But he can sparr with a fat dude thats mad winded n not really swinging!N mad small chinese cats n lil sronny white boys!U fakeout!
jaysun7 3 years ago
Another thing is where were kats before youtube? Daniel and I been online for some time (for years b4 youtube) breakin ish down about JHR, 52, KnK, etc., where were kats then?
No where to be found. Now kats had time to read man info online, regurgitte ish they read, seen, etc. and now you got all these experts. Most of the terminologies they regurgitatin, we know where they got it from. Last time I checked bumrush was in Philly not in Cali.
zogbara 3 years ago
Zogbara: I talked to a man via e-mail and he said "bumsrush" was not in "52" and I said that we never trained "52" but that there were strong similarities and our elders were from back-east and from cuba.
Am I the one in Youtube 52-dom that ever mentioned the "bumsrush" am I wrong?
I wanted to "exchange" but have been met with strong regulatory authority.
Let me make this clear. I did not "train" Duffy Brothers "52" never said that -- we talked before and I made myself very clear.
OctoBox 3 years ago
You said" Bumrush in Cali. Thats what I replied to. Bumursh aint in Cali. As as far as people calling stuff 52 elsewhere, I said umteen times that 52 is in NYC. anything else people makin ish up. JHR is another story. Yeah we spoke and you were NOT clear. You mentioned all type of things, from LA 52 and so forth. Lets leave it as that. I just know that a lot of people have things to say and still got know vids up showing they know something or someone who knows any thing.
zogbara 3 years ago
Every ones an expert now when b4 youtube where was any one?
zogbara 3 years ago
Rah got an open door too, but kats still talkin that oh brothas talkin mystical, yadayadaya but kats still not trying to see Rah either. All this talk about no one out here wanna touch hands, etc. I just mentioned, Rah, K, Daniel, thats 3 who have the REAL, open door and still no visits. I wonder why..but then you got all these experts on youtube talkin trash, that this is all talk, no action. we know why too.
zogbara 3 years ago
Daniel, now you are open-door and youve been telling kats for a while, come see you at the gym, you had a seminar and kats that have been talkin still didnt come see you (Lyte specifically). K and you even adressed Rah being the REAL and the rest that keep talkin ish come see you at the gym. Still no visits. meanwhile kats still got stuff to say here. Why not go see the man who got an open door? I think not.
zogbara 3 years ago
WTF
this is getting out of hand.
lets pray 52 does not become like jazz, blues, or hip hop for that matter. or even capoeira. when others appropriate culture for financial gain. this is just scary.
elegba 3 years ago
no this is reality, this is what happens when people fail ask questions. when they email cats that know then post like we all are saying the same thing. If he truly wanted to learn 52. he would have seen other teachers, and asked why. take a shortcut and this is the results.
peace
FarisiDaniel 3 years ago
Elegba: Are you talking about what I said? If so I never said make "52" into the hip-hop industry, what?.
I said it was "improvisational" which is the beauty and why no two people look the same when playing it. Rah and Big K look different in use because of personal style and individual creativity.
Also, I'm not "selling" 52 for profit. If you were not talking to me than I appologise fully.
OctoBox 3 years ago
elegba, now kats saying that you and i are the same people aint that some ish? kats will say anything when they hatin.
zogbara 3 years ago
most you here know not wat warrior tradtion is this is children playing
blakfrankfurt 3 years ago
..and yes Big Ks 52 is REAL. Some of us have been online for several years now before youtube. hearing how Jailhouse (the precursor of 52) is a myth, etc. some of us disproved that way before youtube. There have been several Jailhouse Rock forums before youtube and we were successful proving several years ago Jailhouse exists. There have even been books published with those facts way b4 youtube.
zogbara 3 years ago
again..you cant learn from videos, it has been said so many times by several you cant learn from videos. Duffy Twins (brothas) 52 is REAL (JHR, 52 and KnK), King Saladin 52 is REAL (JHR). Rahmel 52 (and only Rahmels) is REAL, Puma Boys 52 is REAL and yes Daniel Marks 52 is REAL. these were never meant to be learned from. They show elements, not instructionals.
zogbara 3 years ago
again, with respect, its all "this art is incredible but we wont show u" etc. Smoke & mirrors. The elders, the elders etc. Basically its a waste of time. (to me). I'll keep an eye on lytes style (whatever you wana called it) but thats it. 52 is full of shit til i actually see 1 person fight with it. All we hear is Rashad Evans fights with it... no he doesnt. theres just footage of him saying its effective.
stevieb8006 3 years ago
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OctoBox 3 years ago
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OctoBox 3 years ago
bruh give it up,you don't know what you're talking about. Unless you are saying 52 is Silat or Catch wrestling. But you're not where in LA is this style taught. We have family there too.
peace
FarisiDaniel 3 years ago
Again, with respect, if you ur not gona show & prove im not interested. I will follow proper MA that arent scared and who dont hide behind myths. Good luck to you and your art. Hope it works for you and helps you grow as a person, but til I c it actually being effective I wont post anything else.
stevieb8006 3 years ago
Again, I mentioned 3 people (Rah, Big K, FarisiDaniel) who are open door and invited any unbelievers, and you still talkin people scared, hide behind myths, etc. and we all know each other and for some time now are aware of the ways people try to get knowledge of this science, and pimp it. That aint happenin either. sayin someone scared is an old tactic and dont work on the REAL.
zogbara 3 years ago