Riz Khan - Gaza bloodshed - 29 Dec 08 - Part 2

[Metsada007]

He shamelessly says Israel wants peace, which everybody knows is a lie.

[intercourseman69]

you can tell when someone is full shit when they only argue with one word. that asshole propagandist from israel wouldn't shut the fuck up about terrorism and wouldn't recognize israel's brutality towards palestine ever since the state was created.

[hum2bahrian]

This was a really a stupid programme, I was expecting some arguments. I mean the Arab guy couldn't even defend properly. Why Hamas is firing rockets on the first place this is quite simple because the land was their and have been stolen from them and then they have been isolated from the world

[inder19852000]

Israel should stop the genocide!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[fat0bat]

I am with JEWS but against Zionists!! i hope all zionist see the holocaust sooon

[koya25555]

Fucken evil Hilter like Barak.

FUCK Israel and fuck Zionism

[leestauf]

Kill all Terrorists every where with no mercy. If they hide among their own children they show their true cowardice and future terrorists are killed with them.

[fat0bat]

All he keeps on repeating and repeating is that Israel are fighting terrorists, while they are killing 100s & 100s of people from which are children, women and elderly!! who are the terrorists MR. MITCHELL?? FUCKING ISRAEL ARE! for every Palestinian you kill you will have 10 who will want to hurt Israel and their people, it will never end with war or violence NEVER!

[aysafa]

I completely agree with Mr. Barak, "Terror must be stopped..." All of our prayers are for the Palestinian people and Hamas. May Allah bless them, give them power to fight against terrorism. And I realized something funny that even Mr. Barak doesn't believe what he says. This is so obvious, so clear.

[HRNST]

I want to share an experience, maybe it has nothing to do with it, but today I was in a manifestation in Lille, It were manymany people, but what touched me the most was a song sang by palestinian mothers, about the children died there. And one of them said a very hard thing but sadly truth: We never thought that people would do to other people, the same cruel thing that was made to themselvs 50 years ago.

[1960jjd]

the listening post always criticizes the western media if aljzeera is a true media company y don't u look at this problem through the Israeli eyes the Israeli ppl hav been talking 2 these animals with their tongues it is high time they start talking with their gun and tank may god help the israeli ppl. amen!

[HRNST]

How much do you get paid for every commet? 25 cents of dollar? 60?

[drunkenpersian]

the arsonists are and always will be the scum zionists and the fire fighters are and always will be the palestinians. remeber that david did defeat golioth. long live free palestine

[HRNST]

I really can not tolarate anymore the american speach of figth against terrorism, Mr Barak, claims that Israel is defending it self against terrorism, how american-like does it sound? Ah! they have all their supplies from them(USA), Oh and how convenient is that? Please we as a human civilization have to stop lyign oursefs, If one rich country attacs one poor country is defending, but if we in poor countries want to react agaisnt imperialism and invation is TERRORISM. Dont be blind

[Kbrt111]

Hrnst, when a weaker porer as you say contry attacks a richer one --the fact that the country is poor or weak -- does not mean it is Morally superiour.

[HRNST]

Please this hypocrit speach, really canno longer be accepted for the world, Israel atacc and invade palestina,no the inverse...and United statesI will not draw you in a piece of paper whata white flag operation is, because you will call me hater,heretic, liar or any of those "in voga" appelatives

[Kbrt111]

Jewish people started to come back to their historical homeland 120 years ago in significant numbers. They bought lands, worked them. In 1947 the powers that were (either you like or not ) have agreed to divide those lands in two state.

[Kbrt111]

the main powers , including Russian Stalin gave ok to the state of Israel. Stalin hated Jews , and after the state was created became the biggest enemy of Israel outside of Arabs states, yet, when he could have with one strike of the pen prevented the creation of Israel , he sided with Jews since Arabs collaborated and showed sympathy to Nazis, and what Stalin hated the most - were Nazis and its sympathizers.

[Kbrt111]

Had Muslims did not side with Hitler , there would not be Israel. You see Arabs --in real life nobody gives the shit about your Allah, there are consequnces to your actions .Period.

[Kbrt111]

Instead of accepting the division, Arabs started the war and lost it. In the war conditions there are refugees which were either kicked out by Jewish forces or fled themselves. Arabs as well lost some territory. Those were consequences of another Arab choice which is to start the war.

[Kbrt111]

Had Arabs did not attack, ... Jewish forces would not have the reason to kick out 700-800 thousands of Arabs out ,and today Israel would be a truly binational state.

Once Israel was legally created that is it, that state has all the rights like others and the most basic one is to defend itself.

[fat0bat]

Israel do not belong in the middle east where all neighboring countries are arab countries!! let them go and find somewhere else to occupy,, why in the Arab world?!! why in Palestine! DO NOT FORGET THEY ARE THE OCCUPYING FORCE who just came in 40 years back before then Palestinians were happy and the middle east didn't have any "terrorists"

[Kbrt111]

fatObat, first of all, you are 70 years too late..the wheels of history have turned ---you dont like it?? ...too bad, we dont like many things to..that is life....and second , we are not going to give explanations to every person on this Earth why Jewish people are entitled to the homeland like anybody else in their historical lands.

[Kbrt111]

You Muslims consistently make evil choices which please your hate , but you dont want to accept consequences of those choices and act like small immature children . You have created the situation of 1967 - result -loss of territories, you elect Hamas ,who is openly bent on the Genocide and you expect that normal countries will shake their hand?

[orashameem]

I always thought that Hitler was evil, but now after seeing the way people like you react to a massacre by the ones of your own, I feel that Hitler was partly right in doing what he did if only all that he chose to slew were of your kind.

[Kbrt111]

oh shut the hell up..big analisys here : you comparing Hitler's open aggressions which had end up in deaths of 60 mln people to the defensive actions with the casualty list in the hundreds most of which are the fighters. Dont give this shit that you just unbiased observer - you a bigoted fuck and as a Jewish person I piss on your opinion.

[prithramesh]

60 million? if you mean the total WW2 casualties, you should perhaps clarify that, because its misleading.

[Kbrt111]

Hamas uses the territory it has under its control not to build economy but to throw missiles into Israel or send suicide bombers. Naturally Israel is not going to make it easier for them  it will blockade them , put check points , wall . That is again the consequence to the evil choice Arabs make. Gaza is just another result.

[Kbrt111]

Oh well, you never seem to grow up , get over , and move on. The formula that any normal people of this world know very well, million of others were displaced when historical events happen -yet only you wallow in the same old shit of 70 years ago. Your choice.

[inder19852000]

The term "terrorism" has to be redefined.The Palestinians are fighting against the occupying force "Israel",like Tamilians do in Srilanka.How can they be called as Terrosrists?What would we do,if we are thrown out of our homes?

[HRNST]

Its the mechanism of imperial expantion, look USA, otherwise they will never be supported by other countries like France or EU, they have this brain wash working 7/7. And it is worst, the occupied territories, they are neighborhoods very fancy, with swimingpool and gardens, they do not even make for idealistic reasons, only to get a nice living, american style in an ocupied territory: Please the humen comunity,not the goberment, have to stop this lies, WAR IN TERROR IS A MITH

[papapharoh]

isreal has been a terrorist nation organized by fake white people.the world is gradually waking up to the thruth.

[cheapshot1234]

Actually you need to wake up from hatred.

[kenzo4000]

wow 5 people compared to at least 51 Palestinians.  Yeah, Israel's actions are certainly justified.

[Kamal767]

So if Israel does it, it's OK. If a Palestinian does it, it's not. Got it! It all makes sense now!

[CultureBat]

Palestine is fighting terrorism.

[IndigoRevolution999]

"Free thinking people" disgusting, I hope that jewish guy gets a rocket in the face

[cheapshot1234]

The only people getting rockets in their face are Hamas and the innocent civilians that Hamas uses as civilian shields.

And you need to stop dreaming.

[IndigoRevolution999]

Famous man once said "You might call me a dreamer, but I'm not the only one"

[Ac1899]

well you have to understand that in his sick mind, Gazan civilians are not equal to Israeli settlers!..and therefore are unworthy of comparison regardless of how many are slaughtered. I actually thought he was a good choice to bring on since he's a clearly illustrated the criminal mentality of the Zionist entity.

[IndigoRevolution999]

I agree also, that kid who they dragged out of some freemason lodge somewhere where he was probly sacrificing goats was a perfect example of their mentality.

I don't understand how the israelis can bitch about the palestinians attacking them, do they think that the world forgot that they invaded and conquered there country and then enslaved them? They have every right to retaliate, although launching rockets doesn't help the situation what more can they do? They're backed into a corner

[Demetrenos]

Wait a moment: 4 dead Israelis for 400 " terrorists"? So does it take 100 Hamas to kill one Israeli? And the 4 Israelis were killed AFTER the attack on Gaza. Home made rockets against military missiles, airplanes, helicopters, tanks. Gaza is occupied by Israel and Israel controls it's border. Cutting fuel, food and medical supplies more often then not. Attacks will go on so long there are Palestinians left.Israel will fight the "terrorists" until they have all land they want. Hypocrites!!

[cheapshot1234]

Gaza is NOT occupied by Israel. Israel withdrew from it. It is blockaded because Hamas rejected the quartet agreements made between the PLO and Israel - 1. Recognition of Israel's right to exist 2. Renouncing of violence 3. Agreeing to past agreements. Hamas rejected all the past agreements and continued with its constitution to destroy Israel and extermination of jews. Hence, Israel and the world (and arab world) sanctioned Hamas.

Israel will not wait for a rocket to hit a school bus to act.

[Demetrenos]

"Israel will not wait for a rocket to hit a school bus to act."

No but Israel will plan 6 months in advance how Hamas will respond when they start closing the border whenever they want and kill a few Hams, the Hamas will fire home made rockets and Israel can " defend itself again. Reminds me very much some Western movie about the evil Red Indians. Palestinians have now less then 20% of the land they had prior to 1948. Bad Palestinians!It's colonization in my book and ethic cleansing

[qarnain06]

Israel is behaving like Marxist Russia under Joeseph Starlin. And the west is sleep walking into a Zionist Marxist nightmare.

[ikran2007]

sauid family and other arab regime need to be removed they are they support us, eu countrysand israel these regime alode the killing of muslim ppl are the world

[ajaxbomb]

I know exactly why the damn video is'nt here. because the Isreali dude straight shitted on that other moron and their afraid to show that he is clearly right..

[ajaxbomb]

"Death 2 Israel", "wipe them off the map". not much of a difference 2 me.

watch?v=_9zcElqetqk

[melvinanna94]

arsonist and firefighter. such misleading terms from an obvious Israeli nationalist. if irsael wanted peace they would just push for a free Palestine.

[LaConvivencia]

Why does it say video is no longer available???

[tatsukogarasu]

some history, the "Sons of Liberty" and its leader, "Samuel Adams" was considered a terrorist and the "Committees of Correspondence" which was an colonial groups organized prior to the outbreak of the American War for Independence and were established for the purpose of formally "organizing public opinion" and coordinating "patriotic actions" against Great Britain. "organizing public opinion" "patriotic actions" propaganda and terrorism are what we call them now

[oceanbound222]

Zionism is evil

Zionists are devils

[illmatador2]

where is the video?

[azkeyz]

Iran interested in fighting terrorism ?

HAHAHA what a joke , Ahmedinajad has made it 1000% clear that he will attack israel as soon as possible and blow them off the map.

Even now iran is moving to join with asyria

and the prediction is they will attack from the north.

[oceanbound222]

Ahmedinajad NEVER said he would blow Izrael off the map. He said he would end Zionism. The right-winged media have distorted what the great Ahmedinajad said. He never talked about destroying a country or land. He talked about destroying a political ideology called Zionism.

[electango]

Monkey Ahmedinajad has run Iran into the ground. He should pay more attention to Iran's failing economy and less attention to Iran's imperialistic schemes.

[Maxwedge12000]

Gaza has become a nest for terrorists.

[Sharkhunter1976]

I suppose you ment: Gaza has become a nest of resistance, due to oppression...

[Maxwedge12000]

No, I meant Gaza has become a nest for terrorists.

[Sharkhunter1976]

Then tell me, what is your description of terrorism?

Is Palestine oppressing Israel for 60 yrs or the other way around?

Also I am very interested,what you think of the Stalin regime? A very brutal Regime, who where a big party to destroy the Nazi's who oppressed the Jews in Europe during WW2...?

Where they hero's or also terrorist?

[Maxwedge12000]

Terrorism to me is when you intentionally target civilians exclusive of any military targets. Such as blowing up a bus or pizzeria solely to kill innocent civilians.

The answer to your second question is both sides oppress the other with violence.

Stalin was a butcher, not a hero.

[Maxwedge12000]

Shark, perhaps you can answer some questions for me. What did the gazans hope to gain by launching 6,000 rockets into isreal? Did they think their lives would be improved somehow? Did they think they could crush israel with these rockets? What were they thinking?

[Sharkhunter1976]

The answer is world opinion (I suggest). They can't win by fighting, but if Israel starts to lose the worlds's support, it will get difficulties on the long term...

Almost ALL countries in the world are against the out of proportioned attacks,this was different in the past... Israel nowadays only is supported by the USA, UK and its puppet Arabic regimes...

[Maxwedge12000]

"Israel nowadays only is supported by the USA, UK and its puppet Arabic regimes..." I think that is true and because it is true I think the israelis do not care about world opinion as it is already against them. I think the other side of the coin proves this out ie what has a positive world opinion done to benefit the palestinians? Nothing because Israel decides the situation of the palestinians, not world opinion. IMHO

[Sharkhunter1976]

Israel holds all the card that is true.

I tried to let you think about the proven fact: that Israel isn't the victim, Palestine is the victim...

Israel is occupying Palestine for over 60 yrs and oppresses the Arabs...

Oppression, leads to resistance, as you called terrorism.

I don't see the difference between, someone carrying a bomb belt blowing up a bus is more bad than some country who throws them by fire-jet. ISRAEL is the OPPRESSOR and not the other way around...

[graham6419]

I agree that the Israeli government does not care about world opinion. They specifically only care about the opinion of the US government, and that is why they are carrying out this attack before Bush leaves office. Like in this video, where Mitchell Barak says that no 'Western' countries have condemned the Israeli action. By 'Western' I take it that he means the USA.

[Maxwedge12000]

I do not know where the western nations are on this except that the usa and germany have stated publically that they blame hamas for it. But I agree with what you said.

[graham6419]

That said, I am going out to join the protests tomorrow because I think that what is going on are war crimes and if we stand by and do nothing then we are all complicit.

[graham6419]

The Geneva Conventions prohibit collective punishment and attacking civilian populations.

I am reading about these Geneva Conventions - it seems that, legally, they might not apply to Gaza because it is not part of a state which has officially ratified the conventions itself. According to Wikipedia, at least.

[Sharkhunter1976]

Ok then. If terrorism is the intentionally killing of civillians and you call a oppressed desperate Palastinian, who commits suicide a terrorist... what would you call Israel, knowing it:

- Threw Clusterbombs in 2006 on the Lebanon, in living aeria's 1500 + casualties;

- Shooting at unarmed children who peacefully demonstrate?

- A state who punnishes COLLECTIVELY, by starving a community...

etc etc etc???

[Maxwedge12000]

Clearly both sides engage in terrorism, which while cruel and regretful is at least mutual.

[Sharkhunter1976]

True: I would like to see a two state solution, but I do not believe, Israel will meet the basic demands of the Palestinians, which are:

-Withdrawal to the old 1967 border;

- A stake in East Jerusalem;

-Completely in dependant

 > No checkpoints; > Walls of shame; > etc etc.

Israel gave Abbas ZERO and it certainly won't give Hamas anything... ( Hamas doesn't even recognize Israel, which I understand, they stole their country and rights)...

[Maxwedge12000]

As long as israel has hostile neighbors, I agree with you that israel will never meet those demands and logically, I don't blame them.