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  • make you aim faster, and run faster

  • dual wield LMGs<3

  • I got it! Have an attachment that let's you remove the stock of the LMG. Now before you spawn my inbox saying, "That's stupid! Who does that? You dimwitt!" Listen or read.....whatever. This should reduce weight of the gun but increase recoil. Now who has done this to LMGs in real life? Navy SEALs in Vietnam! They didn't want to lug a 23lb gun in the muck! So they removed EVERYTHING that didn't need to be on it for it to shoot. Or they could just add a shoulder strap to allow faster movement.

  • LMGs need to have less recoil for me to be interested. However, at the end of that road, LMGs become the perfect camp weapons, as campers will get more/better firepower and aren't hurt by the mobility penalty. So, less recoil, but still some recoil. Lastly, a way to offset less recoil could be to increase the hip fire spread, i.e. making them hard to use in close quarters.

  • basically, LMGS with 30-50 rounds, should be Higher Mobility, those with 75+ Should be slow mobility. Oh and retouching the Spray gun topic, do I get high views for em, no. The only high views I got was around 100 on my 57 second killcam, and 69 atm for my reaching 2000 kills 1500 headshots (75% headshot ratio) with the dragunov.

  • I get very few views, understandable, I dont do things like you or mother major commentators do. I use the Dragunov most of the time, and I dont get anything spectacular, but GOD FOR-FUCKIN-BID, I switch to a spray gun and the difference is night and day, flawless matches, MOABS every now & again etc etc. also Elpres, he isnt that good, sorry to break that to you, but thats a fact. Secondly LMGS - OF COURSE THEYRE SLOW, SOME HAVE Fuck-Off BIG AMMO BOXES! Small LMGs = Faster. Big LMGs = Slower

  • Or love them to death.

  • HEY THUNDER IS BLACK OPS YOUR FAVOURITE COD?

  • LMG's are bigger guns so how about bigger bullets? More damage up close and over range, and a bigger mag but you still move slow gotta balance somehow.

  • The point of LMG's is to suppress the enemy, just throw lead at them until your team flanks them and kills them. Problem is COD is a lone wolf game, nobody (well some do but they are rare) cares about working as a team, all they want is kill streaks.

    Cap a flag? Fuck no, that shit will get you killed!

    So you have loads of people wanting to kill, not surpress

    Plus there is no benefit to surpressing them, unlike BF3.

    What I am saying is LMG's don't belong in COD, just remove them

  • Rember the Joe Montana Bengal clutch 1980's? What Smith did reminds me of that.

  • @Luallenjv Was double tap from cod 4?

  • better i s.  less recoil

  • thats a question, i dont have any ideas

  • i like hotel

  • i think world at war had great LMG's ;)

  • Haters gunna hate, potato's gunna potate

  • @6:30 So is that why Whiteboy is so popular?

  • Ya its the speed you go when you have an LMG. But the reason the RPD was good was because the firepower was immense :)

  • And let's be honest it's not like Alex smith was the reason for the 49ers success this year, it was the defense. I mean he didn't throw for 300 yards in a SINGLE game all season. And I'm not saying that is all on him or that he couldn't be good if he just had some more weapons to work with either. Guys like Crabtree really need to step it up next year in that offense to give alex smith a better opportunity to prove himself

  • And as far as lmgs go I probably wouldn't use them no matter what they did to them, unless they were to give them some ridiculous amount of damage or something, but I would probably say that increasing the mobility would definitely help

  • I don't know what you talking about the niners defense doing anything to drew brees but the man had over 450 yards and 4 tds in that game. It was the saints defense that killed them in that game letting up 36 points to an offense that has struggled as badly as the 49ers have all season. Outside of Vernon Davis and I guess frank gore they have no other weapons on the offensive side of the ball. Good win for the 49ers but had nothing to do with the niners defense stopping brees

  • in bf3 LMGs do not effect your speed that is why it's used as much as any other gun

  • dont bring them ack period suprise us with a new class of wepons more specials or something

  • There's gonna be a black ops 2?

  • Thats Why They Say Haters Gonna Hate :D

  • The LMG should be slightly lighter, less recoil, and bring back double tap or rapid fire for the LMGs. ps double tap would be a great perk to bring back and I would be interested to see what the pro varriant,

  • @Luallenjv That defeats the LMG though. Every game has LMG's as huge weighty guns that bounce around like Tigger on Speed.

    Play Battlefield for example, fire an LMG (even with the bipod set up) and it still has insane recoil

    What you just described is at best an assault rifle with a huge clip, which just sounds like the P90 of the assault rifles.

  • @Luallenjv Double tap Pro should be less recoil, much like kick proficiency. and Double tap should be in the same perk slot as ghost/assassin

  • but they got a reason to say he suked he was a bust as a NLF Qb he jus had to work more he got throw into a bad team 49ers jus came outta no where

  • It's not haters I have a problem with, it's a lack of haters and viewers in general. I literally have everything I need, I have Call Of Duty, I have gameplay that I can record, I have good commentary... And I got nothin'.

  • LMG's would be better if you could mount them on to things to steady the recoil because they have crazy recoil

  • Love your videos thunder

  • respect

    

  • haters=somebody with no life but to make themselves feel better by hating on somebody telling the truth or whatever

  • its actually very real that lmgs make you slow. i know its a game, but light machine guns are light for MACHINE GUNS. they are kind of in the same "slowness/largeness" category as sniper rifles. when i was at my local gander mountain, i picked up a barret .50 cal and it was very heavy. there's really nothin you can do unless you want to make the game extremely unrealistic

  • The Rock: What do you think about thunder?

    Hater: This guy....

    The Rock: It doesn´t matter what you think! ;D

  • @Mijostar1002

    i fucking love fast 5! :D

  • 0:52 u had scavenger

  • Lmgs - quicker reload as it is SUPER SLOW, even slow with sleight of hand

  • Look at justin bieber and rebecca black, guess how they got popular.

  • @6:32

  • the title is misleading

  • Hate the stoner, hate the m60 cause people spray it with hardened, rpk was beast but need fast ADS, and the HK21 sucked horribly cause it looked like an oversized BB gun. MAKE THEM LOOK BETTER WITH NOT SO SLOW RUNNING AND LESS POWER. for the stoner at least. :P

  • not many people use lmg's cuz it makes u super slow. The lmg's arent bad but no one likes walking .1mph. But i doubt they will change that so no one is gunna use them

  • All they really need to do with LMG's in my opinion is, to make your character move at the same speed, or slightly slower than when using an AR. The main reason I don't use them is because I move too slow...

  • LMG's better have a big ass mag or be 100 round belt fed. They should have good iron sights as well. Also more variety and maybe 90% speed and ARs 95% so they arent like pigs

  • Also, the mw2 rpd was overpowered, in my opinion. It barely kicked, had damage like the scar-h, accuracy with the best of the fully autos, and 100 bullets. If it was used more, I would have complained about it as much as the silenced galil or 74u rapid fire.

    In blops, I didnt use lmgs much. The hk21 was good, but I felt that it needed more bullets. The rpk had enough bullets, but I preferred assault rifle accuracy. Maybe if lmg users got the pro effect of scavenger. I would use that.

  • lmgs need to fill a different niche. They have to be different, but still useful. First, I would say they should never have less bullets in a clip than an assault rifle (so 40+, with 100 max like rpd/m60). By this I mean that the galil had more bullets than half of the lmgs. This is a problem because now if you want more bullets than a galil, you are locked into the extended mag attachment. Why not just use the galil, which can be used with anything.

  • More attachements?

  • 49er's have the 'best' defense in the league because they beat the Steelers quite badly and they are supposed to have the best D. 49er's have the best special teams as i cant even remember the last time a team got a runback on them. Their subpar offense is what holds them back. Alex is average, we have no good receivers, nor a solid line, Vernon Davis and Gore are really the big players on offense. If we had a better offense, we would return to the Montana/Young/Rice era.

  • Tbh, LMG's aren't all that heavier than assault rifles. Only a couple of kilos in difference. So I seriously don't think the run speed should be at 75% (not quite sure what run speed is, but it shouldn't be that much.)

  • heres what you have to do i really like lmgs, i loved them in w@w, the slowness needs to be there, this includes slow ads, reload and run walk,etc. the 100 round mags need to be standard, recoil varies on fire rate but there shouldnt be a lot, no drop off damage. and wall penitration needs to be if the guns a 2-3 shot, make it a 3-4 through a wall. heres the big thing tho, the smg and the ar need to have more drop off damage and less wall penitration with deep impact then the lmgs do with out it

  • You can't really do too much to the LMGs because they might be abused and overpowered. Maybe just make them a little more accurate and not have way too much recoil .

  • Give the high dmg ones like the M60 a 2 hit kill at any range. Make it VERY unattractiv for ppl to run into your "Suppressiv Fire". So ppl won't be able to jump in your line of sight and give you a 360°quickscope headshot, because they would be dead while doing theior stupid pirouette. Next thing: Maybe add some extra points if an enemy is killed while you are shooting in his direction (kind of like the Crowd Controll Points you get with the Riot Shield) so they would make sence in the game.

  • LMGs should slow you down, but their damage at long range shouldn't change from short range. In other words, it should take two or three shots at any distance, depending on what part of the body you hit, to kill. Kind of like a sniper rifle. A head shot should always be a one shot kill. All of that makes it sound overpowered. But since it makes you move really sluggish and it takes a lot of time to pull your sights up, that could balance it out. I use the M60 with grip, rapid fire, and QD. Beast

  • Maybe a perk like Lightweight, but would affect LMG's in a different way than the other guns? The Bipods are also cool like in BF3. Just throwin' out some ideas.

  • Lmgs have to have a big amount of damage, lots of ammo and lots of recoil

  • @itsmephil12345 Not if you have a bipod or crunching :D

  • I was at this party and a guy was really drunk. His phone went off and he answered, but the person on the other side said nothing, So he got angry and started yelling and swearing at his phone, Then he realized it was his alarm clock going off tot tell him to wake up.

  • I always new Alex Smith was under rated, but I was NOT expecting them to take down Brees.

  • lmg's are my favorite gun

  • why does it seem like you have more than 3 perks

  • Yo thunder can u see if treyarch can make a interconsole server or something like that we would have to pay for it probably but we would pay for it like we pay for xbox live or something im not sure its possible but its an idea that alot of people might find cool tweet this to treyarch if u want

  • make lmgs more accurate for farther distances.. like close to sniper riffle accurate.. and less heavy.. more ammo... lil quicker to reload.. and should be good.

  • @Pr0toPaladin but he said in this video that any publicity is good publicity..... besides youtube is whiteboy's career

  • @coogy1 yes but whiteboy is only in it for the money while almost every commentator is in it for the FUN. I would give anything to be a famous youtuber because of the fact that you play games as a career. Yes the money is cool but the fact that video games are your career is freakin awesome.

  • @Pr0toPaladin But they arent famous.

  • Tim Tebow will always be a horrible QB. Not because I hate him, but because he's in the same divisions with the Raiders- my Raiders!!

  • The Stoner is one of my favorite weapons in BLOPS. So more like that. Also... RPD. Just sayin.

  • make a perk or profiency to make you run faster.

  • @IIGetoNMyLeveLII It's called lightweight.

  • give all of the LMGs an attachment called Explosive Rounds, like FMJ on the MG4 in MW2. and have it so they actually explode, that would be awesome

  • Best Intro on Youtube~

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  • Make the LMG's sound like they're shooting fucking rockets!

  • @402THUNDER402 rushing with M60, flak jacket, steadyame and maraton. (atachment extended mag 200/0 bullits. Thats greate. you should try it some time <3

  • make an lmg's based on the cod4 or cod6 rpd, and make marathon=move faster with your guns, so lmg's=assault, assault=shotguns & smg's, shotguns & smg's= pistols.

  • The LMG's should be like the ones in COD WAW like the Bar love that gun and mg42 etc

  • same movement speed as AR's, less recoil and quicker reload times. DONE

  • the way to make lmgs strong is like how they kinda wer in mw2 make some of them as good as the assualt rifles( like in mw2 the aug hbar was really good n dint slow u down at all) it should be like that they shudnt make u really slow but they shud be as good as 50% of the assualt rifles that way more people will mix lmgs and assualts and submachines

  • make maps where its better to use LMG ;)

  • @402THUNDER402 - Have you ever thought of doing a "setup video"? I find it interesting to see what types of setups a lot of my fav commentators have.

  • How to make LMG's more viable? I would create an attachment called Light Frame (or something) that makes LMG's weigh less and therefore, make you move quicker. Make it so that you need about 50-60 kills with the LMG (so that you can feel the LMG without it first) to unlock the attachment. I also think they should bring back the bipods from WaW, they were great. They should also have more penetration than the other gun types by default (not damage, just penetration).

  • @BigOhNoezz there is a proficiency in mw3 for lmg's called 'speed', it makes you move faster with lmg's.

  • @BigOhNoezz dude, that is a great idea, kinda like a lighter metal, but same gun...awesome ideas

  • epic song

  • Bring back the stoner and more weapons like it

  • LMG's should have more of a mobility penalty than they already have, but they should also have a bipod (or just a "supported on something" system like in Red Orchestra) where they become very accurate, logical with heavy barrels afterall.

    Of course, majority of the CoD community will go into some super saiyan rage and whine state saying it's made for window campers or something, but that's how LMG's SHOULD be. If you have cover and they are supported, they should rape face badly IMO.

  • wegen m4x hier? :D liken ;)

  • Hi guys. My buddy oliver and I made a dual commentary video and its our very first. We need views. We wanna know what we can do to improve. Our channal name is oliverandeddie. Please look that up. We wanna know

  • @l2edsoxfan999 he was trolling .-. he is a fan of this guy ^^ go to his channel, you will understand ( turtle is a cool guy ^^ )

  • LMG should get a bipod and better iron sights 

  • easiest thing i can think of is hype it up like they do everything else, so everyone atleast try it. but honestly, i like lmgs. it all comes down to map design if you think about it. some weapons are more versitile than others and in talking strictly about mw3, they show poor effectiveness in most maps. alternatively, snipers and LMGs serve the similar long range purpose, is just not as effective. it would be more attractive if it had the best impact out all weapons, thats a must for popularity.

  • I want to gets more views on my vids but dont really have any and also i dont have any new subscribers :( althoguh i like ur style u dont care about haters peace out bro

  • make a lmg named tbrady then it would just shit on everything. hmm

  • 208 peoPle didn't take a hint

  • good video bro. yea I thought Brees was gonna destroy them too

  • Poopsauce

  • Not make you as slow and you ads faster if that h as ppened I would always use the M60

  • Theres nothing wrong with hating on a hater. Thunder was my favorite commentators. In Black Ops, he would always bitch about secong chance and ghost. He even called it "Blops" And when MW3 came out, thats when he started to bitch Who cares if there's BS in that game? Its a game, not some type of Olympic sport or money prize. If you dont like a game, then dont play it! Just wait until Black Ops 2 come out, suck, and Thunder calling Treyarch bitches and IW the best developers in the world.

  • You wanna make LMGs good? Copy and paste the RPD from cod 4 and your done...

  • @superMegaAwesomeMatt i thought the MW2 was better

  • @superMegaAwesomeMatt mw2's one was really good too

  • All hail Lord Vahn!!!!!

  • Wow I miss Black Ops.

  • i remember that special especially the mcdonalds everyday Im hustlin

  • make them alittle lighter and less recoil with pretty good iron sights

  • oh wow I watched the pimp chronicles pt. 1 yesterday

  • the saints didnt stop drew brees he had over 400 yds passing and i think like 3 tds or something it was just the saints d was playing good

  • @eBxSalvage drew brees plays for the saints...

  • @TheDrPepi you know what i mean and yes he does play for the saints

  • lmgs were awesome in waw. they were perfect.

  • elpres blindly rushes so if anyone is playing defensive at all he will lose

  • haha like tebow had a chance to do anything really that game. brady just pooped all over their defense.

  • make the lmgs like the mg42 and browning from WaW. those guns could beat almost any other gun a good majority of the time.

  • not as slow and different varieties of attachments for lmg's

  • I think that the lmgs need to be heavy but should be much more accurite

  • @fsflyt45 use l86 lsw with the thermal. u will be suprized

  • @fsflyt45 maybe your grammar needs to be more accurate.

  • @fsflyt45 the low accuracy makes them balanced, they shud raise the damage a bit tho.

  • @fsflyt45 Try the M60 with grip and rapid fire. It is absolute beast. Since I've discovered that, my weekly K/D has gone up from 2.25 to nearly 3.0. And you can rush with it if you use quick draw! It's BEAST for FFA. Never have to reload, you can kill people really fast, and it's accurate at long range. Perhaps overpowered...

  • very well said thunder

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  • well one way to make lmg's better is to lower the recoil. but i do understand that without the recoil it would be very un realistic. But i mean, if people want realistic then they can just go to battlefield.

  • Hey , xcal is loved and he is one of the best youtubers for gaming

  • BRING BACK THE BIPOD!

  • LMG's should have more power and a light that blinds whoever you're looking at in close range, so it will make you feel more powerfull

  • Fuck the haters!

  • LMGS should keep the slower movement and aiming but have BIG clips, low recoil, perhaps do significant damage to air support and have superior bullet penetration.

  • Keep LMG mobility the same but make it a constant 2 shot kill, low recoil and decent fire rate. Maybe a bipod like in Battlefield too, to improve hipfire and hold down areas.

  • I laugh at all the haters! still love u thunder!

    I am sorry to say this, but I love Katt Williams more than u.

  • LMGs need to feel more powerfull. The current LMG generation is all slow movement, tons of ammo and fast shooting. It feels like a bigger assault rifle not like a LMG (kinda sounds stupid) I would like to see a LMG that shoots at like 400-500rpm like a faster version of an automatic rifle (like FAL) and the shots need to have great impact. It just needs to feel big and heavy and strong and satisfying when you pull the trigger. I hate every LMG in CoD ever since. Crysis 2 has nice LMGs imo :)

  • Faster mobility and faster reloads

  • They don't get it. You touched on the problem with the LMG's in the vid, Thunder... The maps are built for camping. There are no big, open area maps, where players are forced, or at least encouraged to cross wide, open areas that LMG's can be used to suppress. All of the maps in the game promote the use of the AR's and SMG's. That is why people use them. If they made maps that were huge, and open, without campable clutter, and players got owned by LMG's, they'd use them instead of SMG's.

  • I think they should just make sleight of hand an attachment on a gun rather than a perk

  • the lmg's are pretty good in mw3 actually. lay on the ground and mow people down.

  • No recoil

  • 3 shot kill at any distace and 2 in the head :)

  • LMG Perk where you run faster

  • @402THUNDER402

    To the LMG Q:

    How about making a proficiency/attachment-like feature ON THE GUN wich increases walk/sprinting speed?? (or in other words: removes the slower walking part)

    I hate the slow walking with LMG's as well. I will use more LMG' then I guess..

  • add suppressive fire on the LMG's that'll make em helpfull in objective based games

  • they need to bring back a gun like the RPD from MW2. with stopping power, its a two shot kill from any distance

  • I personally love the LMG's

  • @mikenike127 Whats our K/D .5?

  • I rather be hated than loved. it keeps my head on a swivel, if I was only loved I wouldn't be able to grow. you need that drive that haters bring to you. it makes face fucking more enjoyable.

  • Have a weapon proficiency like speed. Use SOH, marathon, and QuickDraw. Prob solved.

  • apology's accepted

  • Lmgs: Higher fire rate, slightly more damage, slower movement, bipod attachment. Done

  • good comm thunda

  • Also put the mini gun as a lmg :P

    make it have silencers and sights and shit like that. XD

  • Make the lmg's have a faster ADS than it did in black ops, not to fast that it like a shotgun or assult rifles more like a sniper but a bit slower, have the trigger pull a bit faster as well so it dosn't take 2 seconds for the gun to shoot.

  • @aceofashot WE love thunder because he bitches he's my favourite ever so you can stfu

  • If you're hated then you're doing something right? Rebecca Black? Great advice.

  • U always play BO now, like I saw so many BO videos last year, and I'm kind of getting sick of it. Play something else please