Even if I'm satisfied with the Director's Edition on DVD and Fanfiltration's remake of the Special Longer TV-Edition from 1983, I still hope that the DE and the TV-Edition will be re-released on BluRay someday. (even if they need to rebuild the new FX from the DE from scratch)
V'ger's form is only hinted at, as originally intended by the production staff. The point they DID wish to make -and made- was that V'ger was mindblowiing huge, and that it was futile to have the presumption of battling it,. Also V'ger allowed them to view it for as long as they did, to impress on them that fact. "Behold me and despair !"
0:45 As always since I first saw this in the theater so many years ago, I always see this as the revealing "demon face." Jerry Goldsmith score even exemplified that.
the problem with this scene is that vger isnt shot very well and looks like a model shot very close .only the last shot where the enterprise flies over the edge do you get a real sense of scale and power. . the makers of this film should have not only looked at kubricks 2001 but the earlier fantastic voyage for inspiration ( yes i know theres a deleted scene where kirk is attacked by antibodies ) in FV they wisely changed tempo and mixed danger with wonder
@TheJlook2000: i lied (sure i read somewhere that it was an airbrush animation) -as you might already know... the model was 68 feet (21 m) long (wiki)!!
Vger is my god. Period. Massive, all powerful, so grand that most people who watched the movie didn't understand what Vger was entirely. For instance, most people don't know that the blue smoke that the enterprise fly's through is Vger's shield. The object that the enterprise fly's over after that is Vger's ship. And did you know that the forceshield that the enterprise fly's through is 2 AU's large? 2 AU's is the distance between our sun and the Earth. That is MASSIVE. Vger is the most badass.
@DarthYuYevon The bad-assery of V'Ger is amplified when one recalls that the original theatrical release specified the size of the V'Ger cloud as 82 AUs. Imagine seeing that drift into your solar system!
Still impressed with this movie even after all these years, still makes me awe at the majesty of the effects and artisitic precision of the film. Not about action, but about thought provoking wonder.
To be annoyed by the length of the sequences is to miss the point entirely of the sequences, in relation to the story. The purpose of this sequence, as well that with the dry dock, is to instill a sense of wonderment in the audience. Just as Kubrick did in "2001" with the star gate sequence, and Spielberg in "Close Encounters" with the Devil's Tower sequence, so too did Wise and Goldsmith intend with this sequence to elicit an emotional response from the viewer...that of awe.
@phyfell001 Well... No, not really. The reason many of the sequences remained as long as they did is simply because Wise had no time to really give the film test screenings or time to edit. Goldsmith actually scored many of these sequences in repetition so you can actually go in and chop them down. You can still, very easily, get the sense of awe from the sequences without them being quite this long. Though, I do admit I love the visuals.
@phyfell001 ...I find the whole point of this film is lost on a lot of fans, many of whom just wonder why Kirk doesn't simply blast V'Ger out of the sky (somehow)...
Great special effects even to this day, and although i've enjoyed all Star Treck films, this one did suffer from concentrating heavily on two scenes, 1) This particular shot of the Alien vessel, and, 2) Before that, Kirk being flown to the Enterprise via shuttle..we end up getting at first a breathtaking view of the new vessel, but after a while it's a case of "Okay, now we've seen the refitted ship when are they going to dock the shuttle craft?"
By converting the set, I mean of course Phase II bridge set that was already built when the change from TV series to movie came about. Still, the way they got rid of the Vulcan science officer meant for the new series on screen was brutal, but very memorable. First lethal transporter malfunction.
Uhura's afro hairdo makes her seem like an out-of-time character, but in the 23rd century nobody would notice that, I suppose. Otherwise beautiful special effects, and great job on converting a TV-show set to a movie set with the Enterprise bridge. The redress for ST II was unecessary, this bridge is closer to TNG than any other Kirk period Star Trek. And the TNG bridge is elegance in itself.
Correction, this is the Blu-ray release. Because of the alert condition where it keeps repeating " Intruder alert Intruder alert! In the DVD it sounds like the red alert sound as heard in The Original Series and The Next Generation. So blu-ray is original 1979 theatrical release. Whereas DVD is 2001 director's cut
Indeed. And perhabs even a Special Edition. (Basically I imagine that as the Director's Edition but with all scenes from the 1979 and 1981 Edition uncut/untrimmed and the Alert announcements combined with the DE's alert sound, like in the german version of the DE)
The german version of the D.E. still has the alert announcements (combined with the new alert sounds) and the voice of the translator at the beginning.
45 miles long
alnilam66 1 month ago
Even if I'm satisfied with the Director's Edition on DVD and Fanfiltration's remake of the Special Longer TV-Edition from 1983, I still hope that the DE and the TV-Edition will be re-released on BluRay someday. (even if they need to rebuild the new FX from the DE from scratch)
FekLeyrTarg 1 month ago
V'Ger is really hard to fight on Star Trek Online. It's so massive too.
holonat 2 months ago
Ah yes, I remember when Star Trek was about exploring rather than zapping space zombies with purple space bazookas....
roninredshade 2 months ago
The audio in these YouTube videos does not compare to the sound of my stereo phonograph. the visuals, however, meets all expectations.
EmmetEarwax 3 months ago
V'ger's form is only hinted at, as originally intended by the production staff. The point they DID wish to make -and made- was that V'ger was mindblowiing huge, and that it was futile to have the presumption of battling it,. Also V'ger allowed them to view it for as long as they did, to impress on them that fact. "Behold me and despair !"
EmmetEarwax 3 months ago
0:45 As always since I first saw this in the theater so many years ago, I always see this as the revealing "demon face." Jerry Goldsmith score even exemplified that.
IMDRanged 3 months ago
the problem with this scene is that vger isnt shot very well and looks like a model shot very close .only the last shot where the enterprise flies over the edge do you get a real sense of scale and power. . the makers of this film should have not only looked at kubricks 2001 but the earlier fantastic voyage for inspiration ( yes i know theres a deleted scene where kirk is attacked by antibodies ) in FV they wisely changed tempo and mixed danger with wonder
TheJlook2000 4 months ago
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D3cyTH3r 2 months ago
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D3cyTH3r 2 months ago
@TheJlook2000: i lied (sure i read somewhere that it was an airbrush animation) -as you might already know... the model was 68 feet (21 m) long (wiki)!!
D3cyTH3r 2 months ago
Vger is my god. Period. Massive, all powerful, so grand that most people who watched the movie didn't understand what Vger was entirely. For instance, most people don't know that the blue smoke that the enterprise fly's through is Vger's shield. The object that the enterprise fly's over after that is Vger's ship. And did you know that the forceshield that the enterprise fly's through is 2 AU's large? 2 AU's is the distance between our sun and the Earth. That is MASSIVE. Vger is the most badass.
DarthYuYevon 5 months ago
@DarthYuYevon The bad-assery of V'Ger is amplified when one recalls that the original theatrical release specified the size of the V'Ger cloud as 82 AUs. Imagine seeing that drift into your solar system!
phyfell001 1 month ago
I never understood why the girl was bald...
kitsune720 5 months ago
At 2:39 you can see Sulu's right ear pin back like a cat while he's looking at V'ger.
evnthr1zn 7 months ago
Its Star Trek meets Alien. Reminds me of the Derelict scene from Alien. The Jerry Goldsmith music who also did Alien is probably the reason.
2 damn good movies.
RustiSwordz 9 months ago
Still impressed with this movie even after all these years, still makes me awe at the majesty of the effects and artisitic precision of the film. Not about action, but about thought provoking wonder.
pspboy7 1 year ago 4
V'ger terrified me when I first watched it as a small child. I'm still scared of it. *Chills* The music makes it even more scary.
Ambarenya13 1 year ago 3
To be annoyed by the length of the sequences is to miss the point entirely of the sequences, in relation to the story. The purpose of this sequence, as well that with the dry dock, is to instill a sense of wonderment in the audience. Just as Kubrick did in "2001" with the star gate sequence, and Spielberg in "Close Encounters" with the Devil's Tower sequence, so too did Wise and Goldsmith intend with this sequence to elicit an emotional response from the viewer...that of awe.
phyfell001 1 year ago 18
@phyfell001 Well... No, not really. The reason many of the sequences remained as long as they did is simply because Wise had no time to really give the film test screenings or time to edit. Goldsmith actually scored many of these sequences in repetition so you can actually go in and chop them down. You can still, very easily, get the sense of awe from the sequences without them being quite this long. Though, I do admit I love the visuals.
DukeNukemTheSeries 5 months ago
@phyfell001 YES.
sibeliandrift 3 months ago
@phyfell001 ...I find the whole point of this film is lost on a lot of fans, many of whom just wonder why Kirk doesn't simply blast V'Ger out of the sky (somehow)...
MrMoorkey 3 months ago
Great special effects even to this day, and although i've enjoyed all Star Treck films, this one did suffer from concentrating heavily on two scenes, 1) This particular shot of the Alien vessel, and, 2) Before that, Kirk being flown to the Enterprise via shuttle..we end up getting at first a breathtaking view of the new vessel, but after a while it's a case of "Okay, now we've seen the refitted ship when are they going to dock the shuttle craft?"
BuddyFantastic 1 year ago
Additional Boredom
joeylodes 1 year ago
Ok, we get it. It's very big. Where is the FF button?
vicentox1999 1 year ago
I didn't at first, but seeing the movie again, at this scene, I would fall asleep.
Ashenion22 1 year ago
One of the BEST SF films EVER !!!
Pendragonn4691 1 year ago
Stop looking at my V Ger Ger!
Jabberwockybird 1 year ago
1:40 is the bit that always makes me go "Whoa thats big!" lol. This soundtracks gorgeous
bumblebert 1 year ago 7
@bumblebert The fly-by of the Enterprise gives it a sense of scale, but when you see this scene later in the film ... Whoa!
GIRlovesWaffles 1 year ago
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bumblebert 1 year ago
By converting the set, I mean of course Phase II bridge set that was already built when the change from TV series to movie came about. Still, the way they got rid of the Vulcan science officer meant for the new series on screen was brutal, but very memorable. First lethal transporter malfunction.
Simpson654 1 year ago
Uhura's afro hairdo makes her seem like an out-of-time character, but in the 23rd century nobody would notice that, I suppose. Otherwise beautiful special effects, and great job on converting a TV-show set to a movie set with the Enterprise bridge. The redress for ST II was unecessary, this bridge is closer to TNG than any other Kirk period Star Trek. And the TNG bridge is elegance in itself.
Simpson654 1 year ago
I personaly prefer the Director's Edition from 2001/2002 but I admit that some scenes are better in the 1979 Version.
FekLeyrTarg 1 year ago
Is this off the DVD or BluRay release?
alpiazza 2 years ago
The DVD.
Servjen 2 years ago
Correction, this is the Blu-ray release. Because of the alert condition where it keeps repeating " Intruder alert Intruder alert! In the DVD it sounds like the red alert sound as heard in The Original Series and The Next Generation. So blu-ray is original 1979 theatrical release. Whereas DVD is 2001 director's cut
Xwingpilot 2 years ago
@Xwingpilot
I think they should also re-release the 1981 (TV) and 2001 (Director's Edition) on Blu-ray.
FekLeyrTarg 1 year ago
@FekLeyrTarg Yeah, wouldn't that be something?
Xwingpilot 1 year ago
@Xwingpilot
Indeed. And perhabs even a Special Edition. (Basically I imagine that as the Director's Edition but with all scenes from the 1979 and 1981 Edition uncut/untrimmed and the Alert announcements combined with the DE's alert sound, like in the german version of the DE)
FekLeyrTarg 1 year ago
@Xwingpilot
The german version of the D.E. still has the alert announcements (combined with the new alert sounds) and the voice of the translator at the beginning.
FekLeyrTarg 1 year ago