I agree with you. I would like to ask you what you think of the 9/11 truth morons who think Occupy will bring about Martial law. google occupy deception to see what I am talking about. I think it is bullshit to push libertarian propaganda. Martial law is coming with or without Occupy and S1867 is the proof of that. but I want to know what you think.
"FUCK!" The World MUST "Wake-UP!" these Hidden deceitful Parasites are "Sucking OUR Souls away!" A very small % of the World's population are Stealthily destroying this Planet and they are... "Zionist/Jews!" (Fact!) But; once The Millions of Jewry around the World "Wake-UP!" and understand that they TOO have been Massively Deceived; then it will be the Jewry who Also UNITE & FREES the World! Watch: "Ring of Power: Empire of the City-Full Length Documentary" on: wake-upbeforeitstoolate(dot)com
Just visited Wall Street occupy. Amazing what the Media won't show you(Che images, Capitalist pig signs, & chinese/soviet flags). Spoke to one of the LEADERS (in designer clothes w/ an ipad..ironic?), an intellectual, told me Che Guevara was their hero and he wished we could implement Cuba's system in the U.S."That would be Utopia"...Not kidding. Do you know how many ppl in Cuba are suffering? Che was Castro's right hand man and a murderer! Open your eyes,do your research, and stop the ignorance
@gchristym Your paragraph here is really funny because it's so clearly not true and so clearly just you repeating what you heard from Hannity. It's really cute. But to those of us who have been down there and actually met people and worked with people, it doesn't ring true at all. Thank you for the laugh though.
@gchristym Actually, what they are looking for is well regulated banks, universal healthcare, a decent minimum wage, adequate welfare system, adequate education, a miltary that is not dominating the economy, in short, they don't want to be China, they want to be Australia.Because that is what we have in Australia. Very few OWS protesters want to become Cuba or China.
@gchristym I never can understand why people always have to try to find the "hidden meaning" behind what liberals say as if you can't trust the words that they hear.Republicans say exactly what they want and you know what..I believe them which is why I'm scared to death whenever they get any symblage of power.Look at the tyranny that is happening in this country and you tell me which side is behind the majority of it.
@gchristym What's ironic is that many of the statements the protesters make everyone would agree with. However, when you get to who they support and believe 'got it right' it's quite disturbing. Their protests are backed by organizations that receive their moneys from the elite- and therefore are just acting as puppets to the elite without even knowing it. The elite need chaos in the streets to implement the NDAA. but no one will use their brains to see this.
@LeeCamp2 it's also fun to think everything's okay, that no one was bought out - in either party, in any group, etc. but that's not ideal, eh? there's overwhelming evidence, we just have to take off the blinders.. Hope you can see soon, we're losing freedoms day by day, and it ain't from capitalism.. BUT CRONYISM.
@freedomfight4mysons I'm not disagreeing with the bad that is NDAA 2012, but honestly the street protests didn't have anything to do with that, its more from the hyped terrorist fear factor abused by politicians to poise themselves in eternal unchecked power against the masses.
@Airphel I am sorry if I expressed that the protests were the reasons for NDAA.. NDAA is merely a bill that suggest that those who the bill protects are better than us citizens. NDAA is to protect those crooks who set us up for this. They KNOW the economy's on the verge of collapse.. OWS is a base- like Greece's early union protests before it became a full-fledged country protest.. and you better believe when the economy hits the fan completely, NDAA will come to ensure 'security'-for themselves
@freedomfight4mysons I agree with you ... it is not their aim to arrest or pepper spray everyone who protests ... it is their goal only to identify these people: names, addresses, photographs, etc ... it's called intelligence gathering ... they are making a list and checking it twice ...
I'll put money on the fact that OWS will be a dead movement by the end of March 2012, the fact that OWS despises Ron Paul for the most part makes me think that its failure is a good thing
@dangerouslytalented Ron Paul's anarchy = OWS having to actually get jobs and be accountable for themselves, I can see why they are so anti Ron Paul, the idea of a government NOT caring for them from the cradle to the grave scares the HELL out of OWS, I mean dam, actually having to get up before noon work 40 hours a week for your keep in this world is so 1950's!!
@duanescot BS! Ron Paul's policies could possibly bring "corporate anarchy" if it's not here already. The powers that be will never allow Ron Paul to change things that we want, i.e. ending the Fed, closing the military bases, or forcing the connected corporations into the rule of free markets. Ron Paul would be eliminated before he even gets close to this power.
@duanescot The only thing he will accomplish will be to remove the feeble restraints by the connected to completely subjugate us. Austrians would argue that it is the government intervention that cause bubbles, but they also ask for removal of all regulations. Greenspan and Wall Street bankers i.e. Ruben did just that deregulated the financial industry which necessitated the government intervention to protect banks. TARP was not intended to save economy.
@LloydMadoff The problem is that bubbles were occurring repeatedly WITHOUT government intervention, in the period between the 17th century and early 20th where businesses could pretty much function lawlessly.
@dangerouslytalented Yes, bubbles were happening because market. are largely influenced by human behavior. Behavioral economics address much of this. How can anything be rational when perceived value is based on speculation.
@LloydMadoff That human behavior is most often the FRAUD which happens when there are no regulations or laws to prevent this fraud from hapapening.Bucket shops, ponzi schemes, dead pools, thousands of ways to get people to think that what certain people are selling is a good investment when it is a bad investment. And Gold is not immune to speculative bubbles.
@dangerouslytalented We're in one massive ponzi scheme. There are many bubbles right now and Gold is one of the biggest. They heat the pan so you would jump into the fire.
@duanescot Except if there WERE jobs,there would be no protestersYou know why the occupy movement failed in Australia?Because Australia have all the things that the Americans are protesting for. REAL universal healthcare,well regulated,stable banks that are not creating self inflating dirivitives that rip off mortgagees and investors alike,good welfare programs that help people get back on their feet and into employment, good education,They are only there because theres NO OPPORTUNITY
this reminds me of the Dennis Miller show on HBO...remember the rant he'd go on ever episode? (I'm pretty sure it was in the very beginning of the show) In fact, it's scary how close the resemblence is.
The DEBT HEADS !!! They were once the Dead Heads, of the Grateful Dead, Long Haired, hippy, high turned on, dropped out, !@! K let the government support us, And they partying on 'til 1999 and the Credit went dry, so did the Frat booze, the crack got slack. So these got mean, said "Green" but had none to pay the Creditor, no more government handouts. Shaved their heads, no longer the deads, they dubbed "The Debt Heads" Real Mean, Anarchy if no more green, Debt Heads !
The Debt Heads are dubbed, Once the long haired Dead Heads, turned on, dropped out, high , partying on credit 'til 1999, no more handouts, the frat is out of booze , the crack is now slack. So , they got real mean, shaved their heads, and frighten their "dam the pusher man" creditors, no more handouts, so now to cancel the bill, they got shrill, Now they are dubbed a new era of Anarchists, dubbed the Debt Heads. "Hell no the government has no more money to pay, Debt Heads .
GEORGE SOROS AND "NOBAMA" HAVE ORCHESTRATED THIS WHOLE "OCCUPY MOB" THING. I MIGHT CONSIDER BECOMING PART OF THE "OCCUPY" MOBS IF THEY WEREN'T ALL SO DAMNED UGLY AND STUPID! I MEAN I'VE SEEN SOME UGLY DUMBASSES IN MY TIME BUT THIS HAS TO BE THE BIGGEST COLLECTION OF WALKING ABORTIONS THE WORLD HAS EVER WITNESSED! I MEAN... MY GOD!!! PLEASE LEARN HOW TO READ AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES BEFORE YOU VOTE NEXT YEAR, YOU LIBERAL GUTTERMONKEYS!
Notice how the squatters are shutting down the comments on their videos? They are not getting the sympathy from everyone like they thought they would. I know I speak for the majority of the country when I say ...... ALL YOU DOPE SMOKING ANARCHIST SQUATTERS SMELL LIKE POT AND SHIT, SO GO HOME ASSHOLES!
The Socialist Party USA supports the mobilizations to occupy Wall St. in New York and various cities across the US and encourages their locals to take part in these actions. That's why I don't.
Haven't people learned by now, that you can't change diddely squat by protesting in front of government buldings or otherwise !
It accomplishes NOTHING !
These protestors need to just go home and, if they have any money in any bank, withdraw it - take all credit cards and cut them up and declare your debt null and void - and NEVER sign a IRS 1040 form again - that will get everybody's attention !
murder, rape, suicide, vandalism, theft, throwing fecal matter, destruction of public property, public urination and defecation, ruining small businesses, harassing customers, wasting taxpayer dollars by the millions. utterly TRASHING parks and other public spaces, rampant drug use, profanity, disturbing the peace 24/7, disrupting many people's lives (not to mention sleep) for weeks on end..... Who would even remotely want to be associated with these criminals?
>> Capitalism tells us that the market can provide for everybody.
That must be one of the most profoundly ignorant statements I've seen.
Capitalism is simply your freedom to be productive and to own the product of your efforts. You are free to trade with others at whatever value is agreed upon between both parties. Capitalism is liberty.
There is no system on Earth that promises providence for everyone. Socialism, in fact, put over 100 million to death last century, largely by starvation.
Um Wall street is where people trade stocks I thought why would anyone want to protest that it's free market. You look like slaves fighting over who gets masters favor,who gets more cream,who less lashes. What about us being born into serfdom or how about the guys with guns that tell you your free then give you million laws while forcing you to pay everyday or they will lock you up or shoot you. Govern = control you want to be controlled? Wall street pays to get favor but Masters that beats us.
I laff at comments like this, not specifically because the guy got his facts wrong, but because it brilliantly shows what the problem is with Americans, that we don't give a fsck about anything unless it affects us personally. Yep, you read it right - everyone involved with these protests is as guilty as anyone else.
Dear OWS, while I do believe something needs to be done about about the state of the country as we know it, I don't believe socialism is the answer...
@RSTEEL226 Socialism is not the message of OWS.Pretty much nearly everyone has noted that they do not have a coherent unified platform.Its a collection of people protesting the excesses,abuse,and crimes carried out by the elite.There's a little of this and that,but don't distort or try to call it something its not just because a few socialist are mixed in.I wish they would focus on specifics and go from there.Its sad that they don't do that.
I like it! gorging hot dogs, trying to get just one more bite down your fat fetid face.....GREAT, needed. These MF's won't leave the buffet table, won't let abnyone else eat anything, nary a crumb left that they won't find and grab with fat fingers.
OK,I just landed here three rants ago. Glad to see somebody LOUD enough to frame the BS-fest called government in the right light. I've been calling out the GOP's use of racist tactics (denialism/ party of no) for the last two years. Can you light a fire under this?
In 1980, I was a pregnant Navy wife downwind of coal-fired Gilman Paper Co. My son is born with Asperger's Syndrome (autistic spectrum disorder). What is Gilman Foundation and US Navy doing to support my adult son? Nothing. I did not have to go to war for my adult child to have permanent disability, the war zone against the people by mercury pollution of the air and waterways (with local catfish and rockshrimp I ate while pregnant) is right here stateside on American soil in good ole USA
@MrGreeneggsnham You're right. We live in one the RICHEST countries in the world. Man, sounds like if we gave a shit about one another we would have no problem AT ALL providing healthcare and housing for our people. Oh that's right - a very select group of multi-millionaires don't give a shit about anyone. And therefore, fuck the people who want to provide for their families or have health care.
@LeeCamp2 No, you would just run into what's commonly refered to as the "economic calculation problem".
That's putting aside the moral arguement of forcing people at gunpoint to pay for services that they may not want or even need. What you really advocate is using the threat of force or violence to pay for X,Y and Z.
@LeeCamp2 "Socieity" has no beliefs. Individuals have beleifs. There is no collective brain from which individuals can think. People are not the Borg from Star Trek. You are projecting your own beleifs onto others. When you fail to convince others of the merits of your ideas, you can always turn to government to force them on people. It's not voluntary interaction that you advocate, it's coercive.
@MrGreeneggsnham Yes, you are right that we've entered into a nation, a government that - when acting properly - protects our people and helps those who have the least among us. I welcome you to move to Somolia where you will get all the freedom you've requested. You will not be obliged to help people or to stop people from owning grenade launches. I hear it's paradise. Head on over.
Just like preachers from 3 churches of the same denomination that sit facing each other on three corners of an intersection you have an agenda that suits you.
Those ministers have different goals in mind than the others - and probably some of their congregation - as do you. Do you speak for all of the people who merely show up because their friends might suggest because it's the weekend? Do you speak for the guy who might have a different beef than you?
@MrGreeneggsnham Tolerance in the liberal tradition, is tolerace of diversity in the things that make people human, not tolerance of bullshit spouted by assholes. Nice fuckin try.
@MrGreeneggsnham How will you pay for the police and defensive military without taxes? Who's going to maintain the infrastructure such as roads, water, and electricity? Do you think privatizing everything will guarantee freedom of assembly because "everything" is now owned by a private corporation?
Also, do you think deregulation of Wall St. was a good thing? And how old were you when you first read Ayn Rand? Do you think Objectivity is a cult?
Wall Street was rugulated under Bush not deregulated. They passed the Sarbanes-Oxley Act among other things.
Never read Ayn Rand. Objecivity isn't a beleif system. Ayn Rand's philosophy is called objectivism and I really don't know much about it other than the name. I do think statism is a cult.
The United States constitution explicitly provides for 'the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances'" in the First Amendment.
According to you, if you don't have property, you don't have this right. Sarbanes–Oxley Act was in response to Enron, WorldCom scandals. I'm talking about Robert Rubin and deregulation under Clinton.
@MrGreeneggsnham Do you not see the irony here? According to your argument, one would need to have enough money to own a large area in the center of town to have the right to express their first amendment.
@LloydMadoff You would just need permission from whom ever owned the property. I don't think I have a right to protest on your property if you don't want me there. I don't beleive in statism. It's weird, voilent and cultish.
@MrGreeneggsnham You seem to bring up the word often "statism" as if to signal to an agreed audience. Here's an excerpt from Naked Capitalism blog regarding the code-word, "Big Government = (statist and freedom-crushing) activist government policy (used to increase the size and scope of government to redistribute wealth illegitimately by government confiscation) ." Does human rights need permission?
@LloydMadoff If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves.
@MrGreeneggsnham Are you against the idea of market forces applied to everyone, including the connected? Perhaps you're trying point out that when your sole purpose is to maintain market advantage, you simply buy it rather than competing in it.
@LloydMadoff People are never going to be equal. They will never have the same opportunities. They live different lives, they excell in different areas and they have different intrests. If you struggle with basic Algebra you will never have equal opportunity to be an engineer. If you can't grasp chemistry you will never have equal opportunity to be a doctor. If you are a terrible public speaker you will never have equal opportunity to have your own television show.
@MrGreeneggsnham BTW I'm familiar with Austrian economics. I agree with some of the arguments, i.e. Federal Reserve and problem with fractional reserve banking. However, I don't agree with their belief that markets are rational and do not need regulations.
@MrGreeneggsnham Your argument is false. A more appropriate response would be people can rally behind whatever warlord they wish. You seem to forget that there are regulations too for the voting process.
@MrGreeneggsnham ahhh here we go ,..lol the collective brain as you put it does exist clearly ,.. there is an image each person holds as good and bad, these images differ but in a large way are the same, for instance pretty much all people believe murder is bad thing,.. now expand the ability of a person to include concepts of greed, oppression,repression and add HOPE, as one progresses and evolves ones mind so evololution of all minds ensues,.. the shift to possitive concepts=possitive results
@MrGreeneggsnham Oh dear GOD, you have to pay taxes? How fucking fantastic your life must be where paying taxes is all you can find to bitch about. I pay my taxes, for the same reason I drag a can to the curb on Mondays, sit in meetings with my manager, and purchase my own toilet paper; because I am an adult in a civilized nation and this is what we adults do. Inane as it is, it's part of NOT being a blithering manchild.
@MrGreeneggsnham No, they're not. They're payment for services rendered. You are free to opt out - there are nations with much lower taxes than ours - or no taxes at all. There's also the option of divesting yourself from the society you don't believe in. In many cases this would mean a drop in your standard of living - it seems a nation's tax rate is inversely proportional to its guinea worm infection rate - but what's your freedom worth, right?
@LeeCamp2 Spot on with this comment Lee.Anyone who thinks we are the richest country on earth hasn't gotten sick in Amerika.Then you lose your life's savings and even your home,if you had one to start with.Then you go and stand in line for the crumbs called welfare,that might keep you alive for a few more months ! Wake up Americans.The world is laughing at our suffering. It's true (sigh).
@justcallmeassinine Yep, you need socialism, (and a new constitution). lol You cannot have your 'FREEDOM', and then impliment much higher taxes. tut tut
@MrGreeneggsnham Wow. I like how you make it sound like being able to eat three meals a day is such an extravagant luxury that we should all be so thankful for.
Your reasoning is flawed. Rather than suggesting that the 15% not protest because they can afford three meals a day, shouldn't you be saying that ALL people should be able to afford three meals a day? Food is a basic human right. It's not a privilege.
@DiscordChaos It was a right in communist China and the former Soviet Union then people starved to death by the millions. Go read about Mao's "great leap foward".
@DiscordChaos The point was that making "food a basic human right" has caused people to starve to death by the millions. I don't think it was that difficult a point to grasp. You take away peoples incentives to produce and they don't produce as much. When you take away the incentives to produce food then people starve.
@MrGreeneggsnham Oh, but it is a difficult point to grasp. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, someone is actually suggesting that food is not a human right. Tell that to UNICEF.
By the way, the Great Leap Forward had nothing to do with food being a human right. If anything, the Chinese government pulled farmers away from farming to work in manufacturing, as a failed attempt to kick-start China's industrial development. I don't know why you used that as an example.
@MrGreeneggsnham Collectivization didn't start with the Great Leap, that was kind of the whole point of communism.
The state wouldn't even have to take on the role of feeding everybody if the magic of the free market functioned as it should, right? Capitalism tells us that the market can provide for everybody.
@MrGreeneggsnham Stop trying to change the topic. The Great Leap Forward and communism are irrelevant to what we're discussing. What we're discussing is that food is a human right. I really don't see what communism has to do with that.
@MrGreeneggsnham You're right, for once. It's pointless because your mind's already locked into a frame, and it only accepts information which supports that frame, while rejecting information that negates it.
Collectivization has nothing to do with food being a right. Food being a right simply means that all humans should have it. If the market can do that on its own, no problem. But obviously, it can't.
@DiscordChaos Yes, all humans should have food. I'm glad you feel that way.
Your obligation is to work hard, make lots of money and use it to buy people food. Maybe find some like-minded people to join you. That's what "Charity" means.
Other people are using their money to do the things they believe "should" be done. Libraries, parks, preserving wild lands, creating jobs and products...
You put your money into what you believe "should" be. That's noble.
Your Rights are your protections against other people doing things to you. None of your Rights ever allows you to force someone to do something for you.
We feel badly for those who are hungry, so we feed them. Feeding the poor is a human charity. Work hard, earn lots of money, feed the poor. To be charitable to others is your Right.
@MrGreeneggsnham Yeah. I have roommates that split the bill on internet access or I wouldn't have it. That $20/mo won't buy much food. I could afford, maybe, 1 TV dinner a day for a couple weeks on that... or ramen. Both of which would make my body feel GREAT. That, or I guess I could buy some protein shake powder and chug some chalk every day. Plus, internet access is free at the library when I'm homeless (food isn't)... which is about to happen again (the not having a house, thing).
@MrGreeneggsnham Nope. Google Voice is free. Lifeline home phones are $1. Yeah, that's how poor I am. Yes, the house I live in also has a refrigerator... and my microwave came from my dead father's kitchen.... OOH THE LUXURY! Want to continue trying to make me sound like I'm a spoiled tech-whore that buys gadgets instead of food?
@himontyOKC The 'cost of living' is subjective. You can make it any number you want depending on which variables you use. Most people in third world countries have no running water, no electricity, no schools, no cars, they live in makeshift houses and they are substance farming. If there is a drought you starve to death. In India you are concidered to be literate if you can spell your own name. The literacy in India is 74%. 74% can spell their own name.
@MrGreeneggsnham Yet, you have a hard number on income? Look, man, ask yourself: WHY AM I HERE? WHAT AM I DOING? WHAT, EXACTLY, AM I WHITE-KNIGHTING? What do you think you're teaching me? I'm not suffering ENOUGH because other people have it worse? Well, I assure you, I don't want those people to go without clean food and water, either. That just makes me have more vitriol against those doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT even though they have resources. What are you trying to accomplish?
@MrGreeneggsnham I give the only resource I have, time. I spend every week at a Juvenile Detention Center as an assistant for a Girl Scout Troop to girls in jail. Trying to rehabilitate them from the awful lives they've lived thus far... regardless of their parents resources. Oklahoma, the state in which I live, has the highest women-in-prison population in the nation. So, what exactly do YOU do to better the world around you? Oh, but, I know the answer. You talk shit, online.
@MrGreeneggsnham Oh, BTW, you never answered COST OF LIVING for Zimbabwe. Additionally, you never stated what you're White Knighting... I'm assuming it's intolerance to those whom you politically disagree. So, instead of letting you engage this further (since you have no interest in actual conversation, obviously) I'm going to let you fester in your sad little world... and I'm going to take my poverty stricken ass to another page. Have fun living your sad life, I'll have fun living mine.
Lee, I enjoyed your other video on the annoying people who are smiling.
Your generation is fucked. Why? Let me plagiarize comedian Ron White:
"Liberalism: We Can't Fix Stupid, But We're Trying"
I have very conservative kids who still think the TSA at airports is about safety. No, it's about government propagandizing people that rights derive from them. The Reich didn't do this! If a bomber wants ultimate success he detonates at a security check and all Americans live in fear of assembly!
@MrOpinionated2 I love that you've decided to blame liberalism. You're right about the TSA but it's not liberalism that put them there and told them to grab your balls.
@MrOpinionated2 It's kinda sad you're so intelligent and yet have decided to pin the entire blame on Obama. I agree he deserves some of it, but you seem to think he deserves all of it. The entire government is owned by the billionaires. The Koch Bros. donated heavily to MOST freshman Congressmen. You should do some reading yourself rather than trying to blame this all on Obama's middle name (which I noticed you're fond of).
@LeeCamp2 "It's kinda sad you're so intelligent and yet have decided to pin the entire blame on Obama... "
Nothing I stated says he is to blame for it all. Fight the last battle is pointless. He is the latest pawn of the elements operating here for years finally had someone untouchable who could not be previously elected. it was hands-off his words as a black man. I do hope you realize that is by no means a racist statement.
You'd have been better off opening your mildly closed mind with me
@LeeCamp2 "It's kinda sad you're so intelligent and yet have decided to pin the entire blame on Obama. I agree he deserves some of it, but you seem to think he deserves all of it. "
RIGHT NOW, who has the power to tell the TSA to back-off and for the FBI and the SEC to deliver forthwith subpoenas and grab all the evidence needed to prosecute the guilty?
When you can respond with someone other than Obama I'll begin to place the current blame for what is happening elsewhere.
I am soo tired of people talking about the filthy conditions and the urine and feces that are supposed to be all over Occupy Wall Street. Obviously written by someone who has never been there and who's only concept of what's going on is from watching FAUX News. It's actually clean organized and filled with people of all ages and income ranges... yes including the 1%. Some millionaires actually feel guilty that they pay less taxes than the average school teacher.
@thatguitarman "Some millionaires actually feel guilty that they pay less taxes than the average school teacher."
David, you're a talented guy (even if you don't play a Martin) but that comment is complete bullshit.
The risk is that these protest grow and go in the wrong direction which will lead to martial law, a collapse of the economy, and riots. IOW, Oct 1917 in Russia.
There is no fear of prosecution on Wall Street, who we bailed-out. Prosecute them - Impeach Obama...much is solved
@XuliusCaesar Your comment is so cute and naive. Defend the corporate masters at all costs, huh? Besides, I already responded to this in one of my videos - /watch?v=s3cOOyHuwv0
@LeeCamp2 "Defend the corporate masters at all costs"
Lee, having worked for many years on Wall Street I will tell you where this movement is wrong. It's demands are quite Marxist and endorse the "change" Obama desired as he is a Marxist. If you don't accept that, well, stop reading now.
The FBI and the SEC have a "hands off anyone we bail out" as Obama feeds off the banks because as always, they put him there. REGULATION, ENFORCEMENT, JAIL are what is needed, with taxes for friends of Barry.
@MrOpinionated2 You're right on many things, but so wrong on some. Obama is basically Republican-light. As a great article on Alternet pointed out, Nixon could not now win the Democratic primary - he would be considered too liberal. That's where our country has gone wrong. You're right that Obama has continued to let Wall Street run wild. But you're wrong that it's because he's a Marxist. It's because he should call himself a republican.
@MrOpinionated2 Oh christ, I take back the smart thing I said earlier. Dismantling capitalism? Have you looked around? And "my friend wrote a book"? Are you serious? Is that like "I have a black friend so I can be racist"?
@MrOpinionated2 Man, it's mind-blowing someone could read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and come to such pathetic Glenn-Beck-on-a-bad-day conclusions. Please continue your education - try to put down the Beck books and pick up some others. Come back to me in a year or two when you're a little more informed on the subjects.
@XuliusCaesar THE PROBLEM: The Election of Barack Hussein Obama
If the American people do not wake up and realize that this isn't a coincidence and that Obama is the problem, then America is too dumb to to be a free people. He was a liar never before seen in the election and is controlled by bankers he will not prosecute. Protest 1600 Penn Av
Eric Fromm may have been right with his seminal book about Germany, "Escape From Freedom: Freedom Can be Frightening - Totalitarianism can be Tempting"
@XuliusCaesar "How many occupiers doyou think voted with an informed vote?"
Difficult question. My first thought was "few".
But given the Marxist indoctrination of children in our schools for so many years and the goals of the communists widely accomplished here, it might be that they heard what they liked form the word go.
How many didn't care his dear friend set-off bombs here, that his preacher skewered America, and that he said different things at different stops? So perhaps "most"
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DerGrueneBaron 1 month ago
looooool
1979jondam 1 month ago
omg you are my TWIN BROTHER , i cant talk about any of this without getting pumped up and sounding like yer video's ....you rock !!!
TheGuidoCongetti 1 month ago
Glad to see this video got some plays. Thanks for your video contributions to Globalrevolution.
Positive Vibes my Friend.
MNjuggalo420 2 months ago
I agree with you. I would like to ask you what you think of the 9/11 truth morons who think Occupy will bring about Martial law. google occupy deception to see what I am talking about. I think it is bullshit to push libertarian propaganda. Martial law is coming with or without Occupy and S1867 is the proof of that. but I want to know what you think.
captcrais101 2 months ago
so true!
yarimonita 2 months ago
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"FUCK!" The World MUST "Wake-UP!" these Hidden deceitful Parasites are "Sucking OUR Souls away!" A very small % of the World's population are Stealthily destroying this Planet and they are... "Zionist/Jews!" (Fact!) But; once The Millions of Jewry around the World "Wake-UP!" and understand that they TOO have been Massively Deceived; then it will be the Jewry who Also UNITE & FREES the World! Watch: "Ring of Power: Empire of the City-Full Length Documentary" on: wake-upbeforeitstoolate(dot)com
einrib4truth 2 months ago
Right on brother! And sorry to focus on a shallow issue... but you are very gorgeous! Whew!
maymayamay 2 months ago
@maymayamay Ha. Thank you.
LeeCamp2 2 months ago
AMEN and RESPECT
artmachine2008 2 months ago
Just visited Wall Street occupy. Amazing what the Media won't show you(Che images, Capitalist pig signs, & chinese/soviet flags). Spoke to one of the LEADERS (in designer clothes w/ an ipad..ironic?), an intellectual, told me Che Guevara was their hero and he wished we could implement Cuba's system in the U.S."That would be Utopia"...Not kidding. Do you know how many ppl in Cuba are suffering? Che was Castro's right hand man and a murderer! Open your eyes,do your research, and stop the ignorance
gchristym 2 months ago
@gchristym Your paragraph here is really funny because it's so clearly not true and so clearly just you repeating what you heard from Hannity. It's really cute. But to those of us who have been down there and actually met people and worked with people, it doesn't ring true at all. Thank you for the laugh though.
LeeCamp2 2 months ago 10
@LeeCamp2 I wish it wasn't true, but unfortunately it is. Thanks
gchristym 2 months ago
@gchristym Actually, what they are looking for is well regulated banks, universal healthcare, a decent minimum wage, adequate welfare system, adequate education, a miltary that is not dominating the economy, in short, they don't want to be China, they want to be Australia.Because that is what we have in Australia. Very few OWS protesters want to become Cuba or China.
dangerouslytalented 2 months ago
@gchristym I never can understand why people always have to try to find the "hidden meaning" behind what liberals say as if you can't trust the words that they hear.Republicans say exactly what they want and you know what..I believe them which is why I'm scared to death whenever they get any symblage of power.Look at the tyranny that is happening in this country and you tell me which side is behind the majority of it.
gamesmaster35 2 months ago
@gchristym What's ironic is that many of the statements the protesters make everyone would agree with. However, when you get to who they support and believe 'got it right' it's quite disturbing. Their protests are backed by organizations that receive their moneys from the elite- and therefore are just acting as puppets to the elite without even knowing it. The elite need chaos in the streets to implement the NDAA. but no one will use their brains to see this.
freedomfight4mysons 2 months ago
@freedomfight4mysons You're factually wrong. But it's fun to think everything's a conspiracy, right?
LeeCamp2 2 months ago
@LeeCamp2 it's also fun to think everything's okay, that no one was bought out - in either party, in any group, etc. but that's not ideal, eh? there's overwhelming evidence, we just have to take off the blinders.. Hope you can see soon, we're losing freedoms day by day, and it ain't from capitalism.. BUT CRONYISM.
freedomfight4mysons 1 month ago
@freedomfight4mysons I'm not disagreeing with the bad that is NDAA 2012, but honestly the street protests didn't have anything to do with that, its more from the hyped terrorist fear factor abused by politicians to poise themselves in eternal unchecked power against the masses.
Airphel 1 month ago
@Airphel I am sorry if I expressed that the protests were the reasons for NDAA.. NDAA is merely a bill that suggest that those who the bill protects are better than us citizens. NDAA is to protect those crooks who set us up for this. They KNOW the economy's on the verge of collapse.. OWS is a base- like Greece's early union protests before it became a full-fledged country protest.. and you better believe when the economy hits the fan completely, NDAA will come to ensure 'security'-for themselves
freedomfight4mysons 1 month ago
@freedomfight4mysons I agree with you ... it is not their aim to arrest or pepper spray everyone who protests ... it is their goal only to identify these people: names, addresses, photographs, etc ... it's called intelligence gathering ... they are making a list and checking it twice ...
t3mpl3guardian 1 month ago
@freedomfight4mysons They don't need chaos to implement NDAA they will implement it either way!!!!!
nightthunder11 1 week ago
@gchristym Every nutcase and his wife turn up. And history requires time and effort to learn.
amemy1 1 month ago
hahha boo to Creed. You can't come.
frightenedrabbitfan 2 months ago
I'll put money on the fact that OWS will be a dead movement by the end of March 2012, the fact that OWS despises Ron Paul for the most part makes me think that its failure is a good thing
duanescot 2 months ago
@duanescot If OWS survives the winter, it will come back much stronger in March. They don't want Ron Paul's anarchy.
dangerouslytalented 2 months ago
@dangerouslytalented Ron Paul's anarchy = OWS having to actually get jobs and be accountable for themselves, I can see why they are so anti Ron Paul, the idea of a government NOT caring for them from the cradle to the grave scares the HELL out of OWS, I mean dam, actually having to get up before noon work 40 hours a week for your keep in this world is so 1950's!!
duanescot 2 months ago
@duanescot BS! Ron Paul's policies could possibly bring "corporate anarchy" if it's not here already. The powers that be will never allow Ron Paul to change things that we want, i.e. ending the Fed, closing the military bases, or forcing the connected corporations into the rule of free markets. Ron Paul would be eliminated before he even gets close to this power.
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@duanescot The only thing he will accomplish will be to remove the feeble restraints by the connected to completely subjugate us. Austrians would argue that it is the government intervention that cause bubbles, but they also ask for removal of all regulations. Greenspan and Wall Street bankers i.e. Ruben did just that deregulated the financial industry which necessitated the government intervention to protect banks. TARP was not intended to save economy.
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@LloydMadoff The problem is that bubbles were occurring repeatedly WITHOUT government intervention, in the period between the 17th century and early 20th where businesses could pretty much function lawlessly.
dangerouslytalented 2 months ago
@dangerouslytalented Yes, bubbles were happening because market. are largely influenced by human behavior. Behavioral economics address much of this. How can anything be rational when perceived value is based on speculation.
LloydMadoff 1 month ago
@LloydMadoff That human behavior is most often the FRAUD which happens when there are no regulations or laws to prevent this fraud from hapapening.Bucket shops, ponzi schemes, dead pools, thousands of ways to get people to think that what certain people are selling is a good investment when it is a bad investment. And Gold is not immune to speculative bubbles.
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LloydMadoff 1 month ago
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@dangerouslytalented We're in one massive ponzi scheme. There are many bubbles right now and Gold is one of the biggest. They heat the pan so you would jump into the fire.
LloydMadoff 1 month ago
@duanescot Except if there WERE jobs,there would be no protestersYou know why the occupy movement failed in Australia?Because Australia have all the things that the Americans are protesting for. REAL universal healthcare,well regulated,stable banks that are not creating self inflating dirivitives that rip off mortgagees and investors alike,good welfare programs that help people get back on their feet and into employment, good education,They are only there because theres NO OPPORTUNITY
dangerouslytalented 2 months ago
Good point about the young people!
15Skywalker00 2 months ago
this reminds me of the Dennis Miller show on HBO...remember the rant he'd go on ever episode? (I'm pretty sure it was in the very beginning of the show) In fact, it's scary how close the resemblence is.
AndiamoP 2 months ago
After I saw this video I had to subscribe IMMEDIATELY. Actually after the carrot-top joke I had to subscribe IMMEDIATELY.
soulcreampoopcontrol 2 months ago
thought this was john frusciante
hoonylee1 2 months ago
explained and clear occupy your mind
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WeAreYouAndYouAreUs 2 months ago
more on laissez fairy-tale
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LloydMadoff 2 months ago
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LloydMadoff 2 months ago
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LloydMadoff 2 months ago
Wild.. and yes I like..
redbronze 2 months ago
CRAZY
larrylovemeet 3 months ago
The DEBT HEADS !!! They were once the Dead Heads, of the Grateful Dead, Long Haired, hippy, high turned on, dropped out, !@! K let the government support us, And they partying on 'til 1999 and the Credit went dry, so did the Frat booze, the crack got slack. So these got mean, said "Green" but had none to pay the Creditor, no more government handouts. Shaved their heads, no longer the deads, they dubbed "The Debt Heads" Real Mean, Anarchy if no more green, Debt Heads !
CarmineFragione 3 months ago in playlist Occupy Wall Street 2011
The Debt Heads are dubbed, Once the long haired Dead Heads, turned on, dropped out, high , partying on credit 'til 1999, no more handouts, the frat is out of booze , the crack is now slack. So , they got real mean, shaved their heads, and frighten their "dam the pusher man" creditors, no more handouts, so now to cancel the bill, they got shrill, Now they are dubbed a new era of Anarchists, dubbed the Debt Heads. "Hell no the government has no more money to pay, Debt Heads .
CarmineFragione 3 months ago in playlist Occupy Wall Street 2011
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GEORGE SOROS AND "NOBAMA" HAVE ORCHESTRATED THIS WHOLE "OCCUPY MOB" THING. I MIGHT CONSIDER BECOMING PART OF THE "OCCUPY" MOBS IF THEY WEREN'T ALL SO DAMNED UGLY AND STUPID! I MEAN I'VE SEEN SOME UGLY DUMBASSES IN MY TIME BUT THIS HAS TO BE THE BIGGEST COLLECTION OF WALKING ABORTIONS THE WORLD HAS EVER WITNESSED! I MEAN... MY GOD!!! PLEASE LEARN HOW TO READ AND EDUCATE YOURSELVES BEFORE YOU VOTE NEXT YEAR, YOU LIBERAL GUTTERMONKEYS!
RETROPOPS69 3 months ago
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Open your eyes and be enlightened by govt greed and deception...watch OWS music video by Cynical30 DWELL
DOMINOWRITER 3 months ago
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Notice how the squatters are shutting down the comments on their videos? They are not getting the sympathy from everyone like they thought they would. I know I speak for the majority of the country when I say ...... ALL YOU DOPE SMOKING ANARCHIST SQUATTERS SMELL LIKE POT AND SHIT, SO GO HOME ASSHOLES!
basenjib123 3 months ago
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The Socialist Party USA supports the mobilizations to occupy Wall St. in New York and various cities across the US and encourages their locals to take part in these actions. That's why I don't.
rgdyk 3 months ago
get over yourself fuck-job
jewlSecond 3 months ago
Haven't people learned by now, that you can't change diddely squat by protesting in front of government buldings or otherwise !
It accomplishes NOTHING !
These protestors need to just go home and, if they have any money in any bank, withdraw it - take all credit cards and cut them up and declare your debt null and void - and NEVER sign a IRS 1040 form again - that will get everybody's attention !
That would be a protest that would kick ass !
rolynstone48 3 months ago
murder, rape, suicide, vandalism, theft, throwing fecal matter, destruction of public property, public urination and defecation, ruining small businesses, harassing customers, wasting taxpayer dollars by the millions. utterly TRASHING parks and other public spaces, rampant drug use, profanity, disturbing the peace 24/7, disrupting many people's lives (not to mention sleep) for weeks on end..... Who would even remotely want to be associated with these criminals?
fiona3637 3 months ago
@fiona3637 amen.
AirForcedude5 3 months ago
@fiona3637 HAH. you're an uninformed moron.
emilyfremontsmith 3 months ago
@fiona3637 Bet you can remember when weapons of mass destruction were found in Iraq, right? Keep on sucking Ann Coulter's dick.
tevildoII 3 months ago
@fiona3637 That is not what I saw in Los Angeles. With very few exceptions people were well behaved and respectable.You are lying.
justcallmeassinine 2 months ago
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searcher619 3 months ago
hey i detest that transformers 3 comment. TF3 was a non stop thrill ride.
*adjusts ed hardy baseball cap*
*piles into hummer*
*drives to applebees*
planetinfinite 3 months ago
>> Capitalism tells us that the market can provide for everybody.
That must be one of the most profoundly ignorant statements I've seen.
Capitalism is simply your freedom to be productive and to own the product of your efforts. You are free to trade with others at whatever value is agreed upon between both parties. Capitalism is liberty.
There is no system on Earth that promises providence for everyone. Socialism, in fact, put over 100 million to death last century, largely by starvation.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
Um Wall street is where people trade stocks I thought why would anyone want to protest that it's free market. You look like slaves fighting over who gets masters favor,who gets more cream,who less lashes. What about us being born into serfdom or how about the guys with guns that tell you your free then give you million laws while forcing you to pay everyday or they will lock you up or shoot you. Govern = control you want to be controlled? Wall street pays to get favor but Masters that beats us.
darkenlight22 3 months ago
This is fantastic, and slightly hilarious! Can I get a Mic check people!?
combustication07 3 months ago
YEAH!
t3hpez 3 months ago
I laff at comments like this, not specifically because the guy got his facts wrong, but because it brilliantly shows what the problem is with Americans, that we don't give a fsck about anything unless it affects us personally. Yep, you read it right - everyone involved with these protests is as guilty as anyone else.
lanmind1024 3 months ago
Dear OWS, while I do believe something needs to be done about about the state of the country as we know it, I don't believe socialism is the answer...
RSTEEL226 3 months ago
@RSTEEL226 Socialism is not the message of OWS.Pretty much nearly everyone has noted that they do not have a coherent unified platform.Its a collection of people protesting the excesses,abuse,and crimes carried out by the elite.There's a little of this and that,but don't distort or try to call it something its not just because a few socialist are mixed in.I wish they would focus on specifics and go from there.Its sad that they don't do that.
justcallmeassinine 2 months ago
Keep rocking it brother
shineoncommunity 3 months ago
FINALLY...someone speaks out about Creed! Thank YOU! they are not good...my nice way of saying what is FACT! HA!
13flicto 3 months ago
I like it! gorging hot dogs, trying to get just one more bite down your fat fetid face.....GREAT, needed. These MF's won't leave the buffet table, won't let abnyone else eat anything, nary a crumb left that they won't find and grab with fat fingers.
TrpleAgnt2011 3 months ago
THIS IS GREAT LEE! KEEP UP THE GREAT WORK!!
trinados 3 months ago
truth... bottom line.
imamymay 3 months ago
man trying to be jim ? yes i get it
393cj 3 months ago
so minor this hype
393cj 3 months ago
they ate us. Do you know they bought fire insurance and rented to piromaniacs. Do you know bankers make money on your failure.
MegaLiggie 3 months ago
OK,I just landed here three rants ago. Glad to see somebody LOUD enough to frame the BS-fest called government in the right light. I've been calling out the GOP's use of racist tactics (denialism/ party of no) for the last two years. Can you light a fire under this?
riftalope 3 months ago
In 1980, I was a pregnant Navy wife downwind of coal-fired Gilman Paper Co. My son is born with Asperger's Syndrome (autistic spectrum disorder). What is Gilman Foundation and US Navy doing to support my adult son? Nothing. I did not have to go to war for my adult child to have permanent disability, the war zone against the people by mercury pollution of the air and waterways (with local catfish and rockshrimp I ate while pregnant) is right here stateside on American soil in good ole USA
aspieresearchmom 3 months ago 8
If you can afford 3 meals a day you are among the richest 15% of the people on planet earth.
New slogan for fat cat protestors: "We are the 15%!"
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham You're right. We live in one the RICHEST countries in the world. Man, sounds like if we gave a shit about one another we would have no problem AT ALL providing healthcare and housing for our people. Oh that's right - a very select group of multi-millionaires don't give a shit about anyone. And therefore, fuck the people who want to provide for their families or have health care.
LeeCamp2 3 months ago 5
@LeeCamp2 No, you would just run into what's commonly refered to as the "economic calculation problem".
That's putting aside the moral arguement of forcing people at gunpoint to pay for services that they may not want or even need. What you really advocate is using the threat of force or violence to pay for X,Y and Z.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham No, what I really believe in is a society that has empathy. You believe in one that has none.
LeeCamp2 3 months ago 9
@LeeCamp2 "Socieity" has no beliefs. Individuals have beleifs. There is no collective brain from which individuals can think. People are not the Borg from Star Trek. You are projecting your own beleifs onto others. When you fail to convince others of the merits of your ideas, you can always turn to government to force them on people. It's not voluntary interaction that you advocate, it's coercive.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Yes, you are right that we've entered into a nation, a government that - when acting properly - protects our people and helps those who have the least among us. I welcome you to move to Somolia where you will get all the freedom you've requested. You will not be obliged to help people or to stop people from owning grenade launches. I hear it's paradise. Head on over.
LeeCamp2 3 months ago 6
@LeeCamp2 you look and and sound a bit like John Belushi.
34sunbunpart2 3 months ago
@LeeCamp2 Is it proper to point guns at people to get them pay for services that they may not want or even need?
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@LeeCamp2
Just like preachers from 3 churches of the same denomination that sit facing each other on three corners of an intersection you have an agenda that suits you.
Those ministers have different goals in mind than the others - and probably some of their congregation - as do you. Do you speak for all of the people who merely show up because their friends might suggest because it's the weekend? Do you speak for the guy who might have a different beef than you?
No, you are alone.
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kopellhinex 3 months ago in playlist Occupy Wall Street 2011
@MrGreeneggsnham No borg? just look at tv watchers, they ARE programmed.
See something? talk about it, heard something, repeat.
The mass is seriously programmed to believe a father figure will eventually save them.
That's why you see all those politicians running around telling lies.
Society believes in many things exept the family unit, here we all fall down.
It's designed, read Chomsky and bresinski.
cmonconan 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham "society has no beleifs" Tell that to the republiteabagger cock-holes that wad to "reaffirm" the "In Gawd We Trust" drivel.
mowgli2071 3 months ago
@mowgli2071 This is why many say the phrase "liberal tolerance" is an oxymoron.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham There's no need to tolerate fools and assholes.
TheRusty 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Tolerance in the liberal tradition, is tolerace of diversity in the things that make people human, not tolerance of bullshit spouted by assholes. Nice fuckin try.
mowgli2071 3 months ago
@mowgli2071 argumentum ad hominem
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Nope. I illustrated the difference.
mowgli2071 3 months ago
@mowgli2071 Is being opposed to coercion a "thing that makes a person human"?
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham How will you pay for the police and defensive military without taxes? Who's going to maintain the infrastructure such as roads, water, and electricity? Do you think privatizing everything will guarantee freedom of assembly because "everything" is now owned by a private corporation?
Also, do you think deregulation of Wall St. was a good thing? And how old were you when you first read Ayn Rand? Do you think Objectivity is a cult?
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@LloydMadoff Roads: watch?v=MseBlo-Sno0
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You can assemble on your own property.
Wall Street was rugulated under Bush not deregulated. They passed the Sarbanes-Oxley Act among other things.
Never read Ayn Rand. Objecivity isn't a beleif system. Ayn Rand's philosophy is called objectivism and I really don't know much about it other than the name. I do think statism is a cult.
MrGreeneggsnham 2 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham "You can assemble on your own property."
The United States constitution explicitly provides for 'the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances'" in the First Amendment.
According to you, if you don't have property, you don't have this right. Sarbanes–Oxley Act was in response to Enron, WorldCom scandals. I'm talking about Robert Rubin and deregulation under Clinton.
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@LloydMadoff Oh, so you can hold a protest inside someone elses house? Are you high?
MrGreeneggsnham 2 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Do you not see the irony here? According to your argument, one would need to have enough money to own a large area in the center of town to have the right to express their first amendment.
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@LloydMadoff You would just need permission from whom ever owned the property. I don't think I have a right to protest on your property if you don't want me there. I don't beleive in statism. It's weird, voilent and cultish.
MrGreeneggsnham 2 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham You seem to bring up the word often "statism" as if to signal to an agreed audience. Here's an excerpt from Naked Capitalism blog regarding the code-word, "Big Government = (statist and freedom-crushing) activist government policy (used to increase the size and scope of government to redistribute wealth illegitimately by government confiscation) ." Does human rights need permission?
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@LloydMadoff If you have been voting for politicians who promise to give you goodies at someone else's expense, then you have no right to complain when they take your money and give it to someone else, including themselves.
MrGreeneggsnham 2 months ago 2
@MrGreeneggsnham Asking for a level playing field is hardly be considered as "goodies" as you put it.
LloydMadoff 1 month ago
@LloydMadoff oh barf, you've been brain washed by notions of "equality"
MrGreeneggsnham 1 month ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Are you against the idea of market forces applied to everyone, including the connected? Perhaps you're trying point out that when your sole purpose is to maintain market advantage, you simply buy it rather than competing in it.
LloydMadoff 1 month ago
@LloydMadoff People are never going to be equal. They will never have the same opportunities. They live different lives, they excell in different areas and they have different intrests. If you struggle with basic Algebra you will never have equal opportunity to be an engineer. If you can't grasp chemistry you will never have equal opportunity to be a doctor. If you are a terrible public speaker you will never have equal opportunity to have your own television show.
MrGreeneggsnham 1 month ago
@MrGreeneggsnham BTW I'm familiar with Austrian economics. I agree with some of the arguments, i.e. Federal Reserve and problem with fractional reserve banking. However, I don't agree with their belief that markets are rational and do not need regulations.
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@LloydMadoff If people are not rational then they can't be trusted to vote.
MrGreeneggsnham 2 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Your argument is false. A more appropriate response would be people can rally behind whatever warlord they wish. You seem to forget that there are regulations too for the voting process.
LloydMadoff 2 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham ahhh here we go ,..lol the collective brain as you put it does exist clearly ,.. there is an image each person holds as good and bad, these images differ but in a large way are the same, for instance pretty much all people believe murder is bad thing,.. now expand the ability of a person to include concepts of greed, oppression,repression and add HOPE, as one progresses and evolves ones mind so evololution of all minds ensues,.. the shift to possitive concepts=possitive results
MrMentalflossed 3 months ago
@MrMentalflossed What does the collective brain look like? I have never seen one. That's because it's all in your head.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Oh dear GOD, you have to pay taxes? How fucking fantastic your life must be where paying taxes is all you can find to bitch about. I pay my taxes, for the same reason I drag a can to the curb on Mondays, sit in meetings with my manager, and purchase my own toilet paper; because I am an adult in a civilized nation and this is what we adults do. Inane as it is, it's part of NOT being a blithering manchild.
TheRusty 3 months ago
@TheRusty Taxes are a form of extortion. Extortion is not "civilized".
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham No, they're not. They're payment for services rendered. You are free to opt out - there are nations with much lower taxes than ours - or no taxes at all. There's also the option of divesting yourself from the society you don't believe in. In many cases this would mean a drop in your standard of living - it seems a nation's tax rate is inversely proportional to its guinea worm infection rate - but what's your freedom worth, right?
TheRusty 3 months ago
@TheRusty It's for payment for services that you may not want or even need. The government is like the mafia with voting.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@LeeCamp2 Spot on with this comment Lee.Anyone who thinks we are the richest country on earth hasn't gotten sick in Amerika.Then you lose your life's savings and even your home,if you had one to start with.Then you go and stand in line for the crumbs called welfare,that might keep you alive for a few more months ! Wake up Americans.The world is laughing at our suffering. It's true (sigh).
justcallmeassinine 2 months ago
@justcallmeassinine Yep, you need socialism, (and a new constitution). lol You cannot have your 'FREEDOM', and then impliment much higher taxes. tut tut
amemy1 1 month ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Wow. I like how you make it sound like being able to eat three meals a day is such an extravagant luxury that we should all be so thankful for.
Your reasoning is flawed. Rather than suggesting that the 15% not protest because they can afford three meals a day, shouldn't you be saying that ALL people should be able to afford three meals a day? Food is a basic human right. It's not a privilege.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos It was a right in communist China and the former Soviet Union then people starved to death by the millions. Go read about Mao's "great leap foward".
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Was there a point you were trying to make with that comment? If so, you failed at getting it across. Try harder.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos The point was that making "food a basic human right" has caused people to starve to death by the millions. I don't think it was that difficult a point to grasp. You take away peoples incentives to produce and they don't produce as much. When you take away the incentives to produce food then people starve.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Oh, but it is a difficult point to grasp. I cannot believe that, in this day and age, someone is actually suggesting that food is not a human right. Tell that to UNICEF.
By the way, the Great Leap Forward had nothing to do with food being a human right. If anything, the Chinese government pulled farmers away from farming to work in manufacturing, as a failed attempt to kick-start China's industrial development. I don't know why you used that as an example.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos They collectivised food production and the state took on the role of trying to feed everybody. That's making food a right.
You can't have a right to somone elses property.
UNICEF is supported by voluntary contributions everything the government does is funded involuntarily. That's the difference.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Collectivization didn't start with the Great Leap, that was kind of the whole point of communism.
The state wouldn't even have to take on the role of feeding everybody if the magic of the free market functioned as it should, right? Capitalism tells us that the market can provide for everybody.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos Who cares when it started? They called it a "great leap foward" then millions starved right after. The irony.
Capitalism is just voluntary trade.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Stop trying to change the topic. The Great Leap Forward and communism are irrelevant to what we're discussing. What we're discussing is that food is a human right. I really don't see what communism has to do with that.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos Collectivising farms is how the government makes food a right. This conversation is pointless.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham You're right, for once. It's pointless because your mind's already locked into a frame, and it only accepts information which supports that frame, while rejecting information that negates it.
Collectivization has nothing to do with food being a right. Food being a right simply means that all humans should have it. If the market can do that on its own, no problem. But obviously, it can't.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos Yes, all humans should have food. I'm glad you feel that way.
Your obligation is to work hard, make lots of money and use it to buy people food. Maybe find some like-minded people to join you. That's what "Charity" means.
Other people are using their money to do the things they believe "should" be done. Libraries, parks, preserving wild lands, creating jobs and products...
You put your money into what you believe "should" be. That's noble.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@DiscordChaos Food is not a human Right.
Your Rights are your protections against other people doing things to you. None of your Rights ever allows you to force someone to do something for you.
We feel badly for those who are hungry, so we feed them. Feeding the poor is a human charity. Work hard, earn lots of money, feed the poor. To be charitable to others is your Right.
VerumJusticia 3 months ago
@VerumJusticia That's your opinion. For me, food is a human right. And the UN agrees. Go to Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights.
DiscordChaos 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham I can't afford 3 meals a day. Good thing I have internet access, I can look at pictures of food.
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@himontyOKC You value internet access more than you value food?
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Yeah. I have roommates that split the bill on internet access or I wouldn't have it. That $20/mo won't buy much food. I could afford, maybe, 1 TV dinner a day for a couple weeks on that... or ramen. Both of which would make my body feel GREAT. That, or I guess I could buy some protein shake powder and chug some chalk every day. Plus, internet access is free at the library when I'm homeless (food isn't)... which is about to happen again (the not having a house, thing).
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@himontyOKC You have a cell phone too?
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Nope. Google Voice is free. Lifeline home phones are $1. Yeah, that's how poor I am. Yes, the house I live in also has a refrigerator... and my microwave came from my dead father's kitchen.... OOH THE LUXURY! Want to continue trying to make me sound like I'm a spoiled tech-whore that buys gadgets instead of food?
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@himontyOKC The average income in Zimbabwe is $200 per year.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham What's the average cost of living?
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@himontyOKC The 'cost of living' is subjective. You can make it any number you want depending on which variables you use. Most people in third world countries have no running water, no electricity, no schools, no cars, they live in makeshift houses and they are substance farming. If there is a drought you starve to death. In India you are concidered to be literate if you can spell your own name. The literacy in India is 74%. 74% can spell their own name.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Yet, you have a hard number on income? Look, man, ask yourself: WHY AM I HERE? WHAT AM I DOING? WHAT, EXACTLY, AM I WHITE-KNIGHTING? What do you think you're teaching me? I'm not suffering ENOUGH because other people have it worse? Well, I assure you, I don't want those people to go without clean food and water, either. That just makes me have more vitriol against those doing ABSOLUTELY NOTHING ABOUT IT even though they have resources. What are you trying to accomplish?
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@himontyOKC Income is easy to calculate. You just take GDP and divide it by the population.
Why don't you give your resources since you have more than they do? Too greedy?
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham I give the only resource I have, time. I spend every week at a Juvenile Detention Center as an assistant for a Girl Scout Troop to girls in jail. Trying to rehabilitate them from the awful lives they've lived thus far... regardless of their parents resources. Oklahoma, the state in which I live, has the highest women-in-prison population in the nation. So, what exactly do YOU do to better the world around you? Oh, but, I know the answer. You talk shit, online.
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@MrGreeneggsnham Oh, BTW, you never answered COST OF LIVING for Zimbabwe. Additionally, you never stated what you're White Knighting... I'm assuming it's intolerance to those whom you politically disagree. So, instead of letting you engage this further (since you have no interest in actual conversation, obviously) I'm going to let you fester in your sad little world... and I'm going to take my poverty stricken ass to another page. Have fun living your sad life, I'll have fun living mine.
himontyOKC 3 months ago
@himontyOKC I did answer cost of living. Cost of living is subjective. You can make it any number you want.
I advocate voulintary interaction between people which is the opposite of the coercive government intervention that many OWS protestors advocate.
MrGreeneggsnham 3 months ago
Lee, I enjoyed your other video on the annoying people who are smiling.
Your generation is fucked. Why? Let me plagiarize comedian Ron White:
"Liberalism: We Can't Fix Stupid, But We're Trying"
I have very conservative kids who still think the TSA at airports is about safety. No, it's about government propagandizing people that rights derive from them. The Reich didn't do this! If a bomber wants ultimate success he detonates at a security check and all Americans live in fear of assembly!
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
@MrOpinionated2 I love that you've decided to blame liberalism. You're right about the TSA but it's not liberalism that put them there and told them to grab your balls.
LeeCamp2 3 months ago
@MrOpinionated2 It's kinda sad you're so intelligent and yet have decided to pin the entire blame on Obama. I agree he deserves some of it, but you seem to think he deserves all of it. The entire government is owned by the billionaires. The Koch Bros. donated heavily to MOST freshman Congressmen. You should do some reading yourself rather than trying to blame this all on Obama's middle name (which I noticed you're fond of).
LeeCamp2 3 months ago
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@LeeCamp2 "It's kinda sad you're so intelligent and yet have decided to pin the entire blame on Obama... "
Nothing I stated says he is to blame for it all. Fight the last battle is pointless. He is the latest pawn of the elements operating here for years finally had someone untouchable who could not be previously elected. it was hands-off his words as a black man. I do hope you realize that is by no means a racist statement.
You'd have been better off opening your mildly closed mind with me
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
@LeeCamp2 "It's kinda sad you're so intelligent and yet have decided to pin the entire blame on Obama. I agree he deserves some of it, but you seem to think he deserves all of it. "
RIGHT NOW, who has the power to tell the TSA to back-off and for the FBI and the SEC to deliver forthwith subpoenas and grab all the evidence needed to prosecute the guilty?
When you can respond with someone other than Obama I'll begin to place the current blame for what is happening elsewhere.
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
I am soo tired of people talking about the filthy conditions and the urine and feces that are supposed to be all over Occupy Wall Street. Obviously written by someone who has never been there and who's only concept of what's going on is from watching FAUX News. It's actually clean organized and filled with people of all ages and income ranges... yes including the 1%. Some millionaires actually feel guilty that they pay less taxes than the average school teacher.
thatguitarman 3 months ago
@thatguitarman "Some millionaires actually feel guilty that they pay less taxes than the average school teacher."
David, you're a talented guy (even if you don't play a Martin) but that comment is complete bullshit.
The risk is that these protest grow and go in the wrong direction which will lead to martial law, a collapse of the economy, and riots. IOW, Oct 1917 in Russia.
There is no fear of prosecution on Wall Street, who we bailed-out. Prosecute them - Impeach Obama...much is solved
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
Its really too bad that all this energy being spent to "occupy" isn't being spent somewhere more productive, like, say, looking for work?
XuliusCaesar 3 months ago
@XuliusCaesar Your comment is so cute and naive. Defend the corporate masters at all costs, huh? Besides, I already responded to this in one of my videos - /watch?v=s3cOOyHuwv0
LeeCamp2 3 months ago
@LeeCamp2 "Defend the corporate masters at all costs"
Lee, having worked for many years on Wall Street I will tell you where this movement is wrong. It's demands are quite Marxist and endorse the "change" Obama desired as he is a Marxist. If you don't accept that, well, stop reading now.
The FBI and the SEC have a "hands off anyone we bail out" as Obama feeds off the banks because as always, they put him there. REGULATION, ENFORCEMENT, JAIL are what is needed, with taxes for friends of Barry.
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
@MrOpinionated2 You're right on many things, but so wrong on some. Obama is basically Republican-light. As a great article on Alternet pointed out, Nixon could not now win the Democratic primary - he would be considered too liberal. That's where our country has gone wrong. You're right that Obama has continued to let Wall Street run wild. But you're wrong that it's because he's a Marxist. It's because he should call himself a republican.
LeeCamp2 3 months ago
@LeeCamp2 "Obama is basically Republican-light. Nixon could not now win the Democratic primary - he would be considered too liberal".
That would be absurd. My friend wrote two books for Nixon. I know what you don't.
"You're right that Obama has continued to let Wall Street run wild. But you're wrong that it's because he's a Marxist."
As a Marxist he's dismantling capitalism by hatred and will turn on them as Hitler turned later on industrialists. Rohm objected and was killed 4 it.
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
@MrOpinionated2 Oh christ, I take back the smart thing I said earlier. Dismantling capitalism? Have you looked around? And "my friend wrote a book"? Are you serious? Is that like "I have a black friend so I can be racist"?
LeeCamp2 3 months ago
@MrOpinionated2 Man, it's mind-blowing someone could read "Confessions of an Economic Hitman" and come to such pathetic Glenn-Beck-on-a-bad-day conclusions. Please continue your education - try to put down the Beck books and pick up some others. Come back to me in a year or two when you're a little more informed on the subjects.
LeeCamp2 3 months ago 2
@XuliusCaesar i wish you loose your job and find yourself in a position where you cant find another job and your bills are piling up.
Catskywatcher113005 3 months ago
@XuliusCaesar THE PROBLEM: The Election of Barack Hussein Obama
If the American people do not wake up and realize that this isn't a coincidence and that Obama is the problem, then America is too dumb to to be a free people. He was a liar never before seen in the election and is controlled by bankers he will not prosecute. Protest 1600 Penn Av
Eric Fromm may have been right with his seminal book about Germany, "Escape From Freedom: Freedom Can be Frightening - Totalitarianism can be Tempting"
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago
@MrOpinionated2 How many occupiers doyou think voted with an informed vote during that election?
XuliusCaesar 3 months ago
@XuliusCaesar "How many occupiers doyou think voted with an informed vote?"
Difficult question. My first thought was "few".
But given the Marxist indoctrination of children in our schools for so many years and the goals of the communists widely accomplished here, it might be that they heard what they liked form the word go.
How many didn't care his dear friend set-off bombs here, that his preacher skewered America, and that he said different things at different stops? So perhaps "most"
MrOpinionated2 3 months ago