The forward throw is actually great for setting up an infinite combo against most characters. If you throw them forward, then use your running attack, then catch them with a grab, throw forward, and repeat, you can rack up damage and get them to the edge
FYI Overswarm, what you exhibited in the video wasn't Pillaring lol. Pillaring is when you Shine to Dair combo an opponent's shield, eating it away, meaning no damage is caused.
There is not much to say than... practice!. I use the Y button to perform those kind of tricks.
Other advice, note that the short hop depends on how much time you maintain the button pressed, not the pressure, so the key of short hop is just speed on your fingers. When you completely master SH ( Means doing 50 SH in a row) SH out of shine is too easy.
Well, yap, Fox is the hardest character to SHop because the frames of the jump animation: To perform a shorthop, you should release the jump button after the jump animation ends. Fox animation is the shortest animation in the game, so thats because its the hardest. Don't remember exactly frame data but is hard. BTW, SH on Falco is pretty easier (Not the easiest character to SH, dunno exactly, i guess the easier will be bowser or maybe ganon)
The forward throw is actually great for setting up an infinite combo against most characters. If you throw them forward, then use your running attack, then catch them with a grab, throw forward, and repeat, you can rack up damage and get them to the edge
aznminr123 1 month ago
just got yourself a subscriber...
garyssonr 1 year ago
@toxcic666
^^
liinkk 2 years ago
@toxic666
Are u sure it's not a " meteor " ?
because in Pal version u can jump after geting hit by falo's side B
liinkk 2 years ago
Falco's Side B is not a Spike
liinkk 2 years ago
very helpful video, thanks
uberfoe 2 years ago
How do shine, wavedash, shine?
supahsmashbro 2 years ago
FYI Overswarm, what you exhibited in the video wasn't Pillaring lol. Pillaring is when you Shine to Dair combo an opponent's shield, eating it away, meaning no damage is caused.
What you showed was a common Falco combo =)
XxIAmRedeemedxX 2 years ago
Lies.
beepMisterEricbeep 1 year ago 2
Truths.
XxIAmRedeemedxX 1 year ago
1:17
Were those Down edge-released Wavelands to Shine?
XxIAmRedeemedxX 2 years ago
ur phantom stalls are not really true phantom stalls
BrawlSucksBawls 2 years ago
Nice Job.
WhirlwindWerewolf 2 years ago
Awesome guide.
Can someone give me some advice on short-hopping out of shine?
Duncmasta 2 years ago
There is not much to say than... practice!. I use the Y button to perform those kind of tricks.
Other advice, note that the short hop depends on how much time you maintain the button pressed, not the pressure, so the key of short hop is just speed on your fingers. When you completely master SH ( Means doing 50 SH in a row) SH out of shine is too easy.
Sotriuj 2 years ago
Another tip for you DUncmasta, don't SH(shorthop) with Fox, he is the hardest for me to SH with. INSANELY hard, maybe I'm just not that technical. XD
Knossoz 2 years ago
Well, yap, Fox is the hardest character to SHop because the frames of the jump animation: To perform a shorthop, you should release the jump button after the jump animation ends. Fox animation is the shortest animation in the game, so thats because its the hardest. Don't remember exactly frame data but is hard. BTW, SH on Falco is pretty easier (Not the easiest character to SH, dunno exactly, i guess the easier will be bowser or maybe ganon)
Sotriuj 2 years ago
Wasnt Samus her SH hard also? I thought that had very few start up frames too
RatedMforMizar 2 years ago
Do shine, then short hop, no tricks to it.
hflat1 2 years ago
nice guide i have two problems tho idk how to do the shb or the phantasm spam on ledge grabbing but other than that awesome guide
darthfigment 2 years ago
Wow Overswarm I never saw you in the melee scene but there you are!
PeachyFoam 3 years ago
WOWW U R SIMPLY AMAZING!
omegadude255 3 years ago
nice guide really!
Alfonzo2410 3 years ago
Thank you, I wanted this guide <3
gonzaloramos89 3 years ago
very nice guide. helped me a lot!
Bugitarkastaja 3 years ago
nice guide dude.
koreanchaoz 3 years ago
Bravo o.o Best Guide ive ever seen... Pwnage
SaSUkeUcHiHe 3 years ago