This 'overlay' approach is a cost effective way of preventing water ingress by leaving the existing felt membrane in tact. It eliminates the extra labour and disposal costs that are involved, which is highly appealing to customers on a budget. As long as core samples are done on various parts of the roof, to inspect for trapped water between layers and the appropriate bonding primers used, this is a perfectly acceptable approach to any domestic customer, where an aesthetic finish is irrelevant.
i used this system for years its called decothane. red as base coat and a grey as a top coat. BUT.... wheres the bonding primer and metal primer, they seemed to have left that out
This is poor work.. a new roof application should completely eliminate all puddles and the window that "nothing can be done about" should have been addressed, whether eliminating it or cutting the deck down in front of it, there is always a way to flash it correctly.. where is ur pride in workmanship?
Decothane is the best product on the Liquid Roofing market - used plenty and nothing comes close to the easy application of Decothane. From the video, the exposed Bitumen surfaces should have been applied with Metal Primer before overcoating with the Base Coat, Also the Top Coat looks rather thin. As the Jedi said - Nice Scaffold......!!!!
A Roofing system that looks like it'll be a quick operation, I wish buiders would point out what a flashing is, some of us who watch these videos are not specialists ! Mostly us customers, do you cover the Westminster area of London ?
Do you know if we can use that in Montreal (canada) ? because here sometimes it can be -30C and +5. I think that should work because it seems plastic but I would appreciate your comments or informations.
This process is very similar to the snow coat application used in the States. The problem I have seen with these types of coatings that also includes foam is breathability. When a roof has leaked for some time it has trapped moisture. If the coating is not vapor permeable, blisters will form when the moisture turns to steam on hot days. I have also seen where rubber and the solvents in an asphalt based roofing, like the one here, do not react well together. How do you solve these issues?
liquidplastic is a premium price product. Surely if there was a tight budget invloved a built up three 3 layer system would have been significantley cheaper. I assume as the old membrane was not stripped it was a good deck? this could have been stripped and covered with a 3 layer bur system and still give a good life span without covering up all the old shit. It was not, by the looks of it a heat sensitive area. If it was the incorrect extinguisher was on site, so why use liquid plastic?
there r alot of cheaper products out there like euro pollermers but u get wot u pay 4 and i have used pretty much every liquid on the market and there is no better liquid then liquid plastics
Thank you for your comment. Liquid Plastic was one of the first flat roof finishes we trained in and although we like it a lot it has its drawbacks, (purchase cost time to lay smell) we are moving over to using Kemper V210 have you used this product, whats your opinion on of it.
Looks like Decothane to me, i done a roof on a prison with this, come back on a monday to find alot of pigeons dead, killed by the toxic fumes,lol. makes u wonder what we inhaling
I'm surprised the tor rep got on the roof to inspect the job without a scaffold, Decothane insist on site visits as well so i think this job was done with out the knowledge of the manufacturer, so the guarantee would be worthless.
It looks like Liquid Plastics of Preston to me. A good clean job, but I would still prefer a lead cover flashing. I can't see how you could ensure the membrane was totally embedded once slipped into the chased out brickwork.
Correct this is liquidplastics , not quite with you about the chase? It's deep in the wall. Flashing are always the venerable forming them from the system feels good, the system has adhered to the wall so wont sag has little weight so won't pull itself down like badly installed lead, its cheep, the only problem is that its time consuming making such a big chase to the wall and dressing the materials into the wall but weighing up the pros and cons I think it's the best
tor coatings, it is easy to lay, you just use binder sealer to seal the roof, then paint on the embedment coat, lay the fibreglass matting to the wet embedment coat and then top coat that with more embedment.
after that you apply the top coat, (comes in a range of colours)
all the detail work up-stands pipes ect you use fibretex for this, and this is normally done first.
we use tor, kemperol, they are both good products.
both systems are self terminating so do not need flashings.
nice tor job, you could of got away with fibretexing the details as it is much faster and works on the same principal as the glass matt.
but the more tor systems you use the more you will realise what you can do with it.
you also might want to take a look at kemperol, as with tor you have to wait for the embedment coat to cure before top coating but with kemper this cures within the hour.
its nice to see more firms starting to lay these systems, we have been using them for about 15 years now.
This 'overlay' approach is a cost effective way of preventing water ingress by leaving the existing felt membrane in tact. It eliminates the extra labour and disposal costs that are involved, which is highly appealing to customers on a budget. As long as core samples are done on various parts of the roof, to inspect for trapped water between layers and the appropriate bonding primers used, this is a perfectly acceptable approach to any domestic customer, where an aesthetic finish is irrelevant.
royalrobson 11 months ago
i used this system for years its called decothane. red as base coat and a grey as a top coat. BUT.... wheres the bonding primer and metal primer, they seemed to have left that out
jobozz 1 year ago
you just painted over the old roof. this material is new and not entirely passed the test of time yet. however i may call it " roof repair"
dozdeshabb 1 year ago
This is poor work.. a new roof application should completely eliminate all puddles and the window that "nothing can be done about" should have been addressed, whether eliminating it or cutting the deck down in front of it, there is always a way to flash it correctly.. where is ur pride in workmanship?
Blankmania 1 year ago
fieberglas? Visit TRIFLEX or KEMPER(rol)
PhilHoh 1 year ago
@PhilHoh
try widowpan is triflex its just widopan with a different label on it lol,, its all the same stuff with different lables.
isnt marketing a wonderful thing.
kempouk 1 year ago
can anyone tell me is there a decent (not rufabrush or that type) liquid system that is solvent free?
grac7228 1 year ago
Yes try Kemper solvent free
stevewater 1 year ago
@grac7228 look at our videos and see a product that has no solvents.
westcoatshane 1 year ago
what a load of shite heat gun ply build up grooves , rip the crap off and put a new roof on.
SCRWOOD 1 year ago
Decothane is the best product on the Liquid Roofing market - used plenty and nothing comes close to the easy application of Decothane. From the video, the exposed Bitumen surfaces should have been applied with Metal Primer before overcoating with the Base Coat, Also the Top Coat looks rather thin. As the Jedi said - Nice Scaffold......!!!!
GingerJHRoofer 2 years ago
Try using a straight edge of Reemat when dressing into a chase!!!!
Nice scaffold!!!!
Decojedimaster 2 years ago
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Decojedimaster 2 years ago
A Roofing system that looks like it'll be a quick operation, I wish buiders would point out what a flashing is, some of us who watch these videos are not specialists ! Mostly us customers, do you cover the Westminster area of London ?
grooviedude 2 years ago
Do you know if we can use that in Montreal (canada) ? because here sometimes it can be -30C and +5. I think that should work because it seems plastic but I would appreciate your comments or informations.
chrisleblay 2 years ago
it can b used and is ok at -30 but it can only b layed at -5
adam1ellison 2 years ago
This process is very similar to the snow coat application used in the States. The problem I have seen with these types of coatings that also includes foam is breathability. When a roof has leaked for some time it has trapped moisture. If the coating is not vapor permeable, blisters will form when the moisture turns to steam on hot days. I have also seen where rubber and the solvents in an asphalt based roofing, like the one here, do not react well together. How do you solve these issues?
westcoatshane 2 years ago 4
liquidplastic is a premium price product. Surely if there was a tight budget invloved a built up three 3 layer system would have been significantley cheaper. I assume as the old membrane was not stripped it was a good deck? this could have been stripped and covered with a 3 layer bur system and still give a good life span without covering up all the old shit. It was not, by the looks of it a heat sensitive area. If it was the incorrect extinguisher was on site, so why use liquid plastic?
bob12341010 2 years ago 3
there r alot of cheaper products out there like euro pollermers but u get wot u pay 4 and i have used pretty much every liquid on the market and there is no better liquid then liquid plastics
adam1ellison 2 years ago
Thank you for your comment. Liquid Plastic was one of the first flat roof finishes we trained in and although we like it a lot it has its drawbacks, (purchase cost time to lay smell) we are moving over to using Kemper V210 have you used this product, whats your opinion on of it.
stevewater 2 years ago
thank you
can we use this material on polyurathane foam what's the coverage rate on such material
alrafieibrahim 2 years ago
what is the stuff in the buckett
Roofing28461 3 years ago
Looks like Decothane to me, i done a roof on a prison with this, come back on a monday to find alot of pigeons dead, killed by the toxic fumes,lol. makes u wonder what we inhaling
insanefresh 3 years ago 2
it looks like Tor,
I'm surprised the tor rep got on the roof to inspect the job without a scaffold, Decothane insist on site visits as well so i think this job was done with out the knowledge of the manufacturer, so the guarantee would be worthless.
kempouk 2 years ago 4
Can you give me the details of Tor I have never heard of this product
stevewater 2 years ago
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adam1ellison 2 years ago
It looks like Liquid Plastics of Preston to me. A good clean job, but I would still prefer a lead cover flashing. I can't see how you could ensure the membrane was totally embedded once slipped into the chased out brickwork.
bolicam 3 years ago 3
Correct this is liquidplastics , not quite with you about the chase? It's deep in the wall. Flashing are always the venerable forming them from the system feels good, the system has adhered to the wall so wont sag has little weight so won't pull itself down like badly installed lead, its cheep, the only problem is that its time consuming making such a big chase to the wall and dressing the materials into the wall but weighing up the pros and cons I think it's the best
stevewater 3 years ago
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adam1ellison 3 years ago
good job.i live in dublin and it's cowboy city
so is this something i could tackle myself,who makes that system.
inkibert 3 years ago 3
tor coatings, it is easy to lay, you just use binder sealer to seal the roof, then paint on the embedment coat, lay the fibreglass matting to the wet embedment coat and then top coat that with more embedment.
after that you apply the top coat, (comes in a range of colours)
all the detail work up-stands pipes ect you use fibretex for this, and this is normally done first.
we use tor, kemperol, they are both good products.
both systems are self terminating so do not need flashings.
kempouk 3 years ago 2
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adam1ellison 2 years ago
nice tor job, you could of got away with fibretexing the details as it is much faster and works on the same principal as the glass matt.
but the more tor systems you use the more you will realise what you can do with it.
you also might want to take a look at kemperol, as with tor you have to wait for the embedment coat to cure before top coating but with kemper this cures within the hour.
its nice to see more firms starting to lay these systems, we have been using them for about 15 years now.
kempouk 3 years ago 3