IronFist Active Protection System

[0puest0]

i want this in my volkswagen.

[ActiveStorage]

takes time to rotate the turret=slow 

[TRAITengineer]

Trophy is way better. Look it up.

[xnoelx05]

we need actual footage of the test!! NOT SOME FAKE ANIMATION!

[quickzilver333]

@xnoelx05 There is a real life test on the Iron fist. If you take your time searching for it instead of complaining.

[xnoelx05]

@quickzilver333 Ok, good. Links please?

[mcombee1179]

intelligent designed protection system! wow!

[kerimil]

so in other words - if the enemy finds a way to reduce IR signature of booster motor/charge then the whole sequence will not start in the first place

Great... now we just have to spend a couple of bln of $ to equip just a handful of vehicles we have....

...and then they just have to spend a couple of $ per round to add a small package with shredded plastic/foam (as used on armbrust) to the missile

and that would probably be enough to almost completelly reduce IR signature

[TheGETUMS]

could it be put on a jet ?

[GoldenTagachi]

@TheGETUMS on jet its called Flares

[TheGETUMS]

@GoldenTagachi yea but flares are not the same ..incoming object follows flares away from the jet ..and they don't always work.. the ironfist shoots the object before contact..i think its cool..they have basicly created a 360 drg.sheld... around the protected vehicle ...but yea thanks for the reply:)

[IDFArmor]

Iron fist>Trophy

[Ahamster1]

@IDFArmor Trophy can reload actually

[Cr0wtatoo]

I wonder what happens when both parties use the same defenseive system - then the one with more rounds in the tank wins...or the one system that doesn't fail a single time. Invisibility is next.

[ResiusOnline]

@Cr0wtatoo

You forget that this APS only has limited ammo.

[nomadnametab]

cool. i suppose that some would be fitted with antipersonnel rounds and if an rpg team was engaged, some projectiles would take out the rocket and others would be directed against the rags. the sensors locating them as well and directing the counterfire. isnt technology wonderful?

[jjponnia]

@Otacon237

I dunno, two interceptor rounds seems like a pretty retarded design constraint to me. Typically Hezbollah's anti-tank squads position themselves around 1km away, on the high ground. There are plenty of videos on you tube showing hapless Israeli tanks getting hit by multiple missiles. The trophy system looks vastly superior though.

[Johnrosssssss]

@jjponnia To see the recharge of the interceptors in action taking less than 3 seconds go here:

defense-update (dot com) /wp/20110301_trophy.html

I can't put the actual address iuno know why so the .com I wrote out above lol

[jjponnia]

It looks like there are only 2 interceptor rounds. What happens if Hezbollah fires more than 2 missiles at the tank? They have thousands of them.

[Otacon237]

@jjponnia Hopefully by then Hezbollah will be dead. The patrol's not just going to sit there and take rocket after rocket without returning fire. 

[IDFArmor]

@jjponnia

setting up and firing a missile is risky and complicated, usually only 1-2 missiles are fired before tank crews can find and engage the enemy, and even then hit rates and penetration can vary.

this system gives a second chance to hits that might have disabled the tank or crew.

[gazakind]

..... another copy of russian "arena"

[yairbe5]

@gazakind it is nothing like the failure called aerna

[gazakind]

@yairbe5 its a copy of arena

which is even more effective

you did a bad job in coppieng this

[yairbe5]

@gazakind arena works in a compliantly it has a different type of reader,detection,friend or foe system different why of intercepting the misslie it is nothing like it

[gazakind]

@yairbe5 sure it is..

both detect the incomming missile

and both are fiering a projectile, which detonates and releases small lead shots

i dont see any difference

if you compare cars on its brands

if it is a audi or a bmw... its still a car

same here

an the fact that russians had this technique decades before this shit appeared

makes me think that this shit is a copy of arena

[yairbe5]

@gazakind if what you said was true then all cars,phones,cloths would be execly the same the systems simply work differently in all aspects this is how ARENA works

watch?v=HCbSDfn80DY&feature=re­lated

as you see different way of intercepting missiles

also the system only covers 270° unlike iron fist and trophy who cover 360°

[gazakind]

@yairbe5

arena shoot a projectile which explodes and releases small metal fragments, which are directed on the ground, on the incomming warhead

iron shit shoot a projectile which explodes and change the course of the incomming warhead by a shockwave

where is the difference?

both fire a projectile

its the same way of protecting the tank

the only difference is like at cars

a disel engine and a gasoline engine

whatever they use, they are both cars, dont you think so?

and arena covers 360° too

[yairbe5]

@gazakind arena has small pads that explode the explosion propellers small pellets that destroy the missile

iron fist on the other hand fires a small grenade like explosive witch explodes near the target

and about the cars grew up in the sovit union ha?

and i would check you source the early version of aerna gave 270° cover and the newer one gives a 300° cover it's still totally exposed to top attacks like with the tow spike and jevilin

check the holly wikipidia

[gazakind]

@yairbe5 i dont think were talking about same thing arena has a for my opinion too huge sensor like you can see here defense-update. com/images/arena-on-T-80U. jpg it detects the incomming warhead and fires a granade into the direction of the warhead the granade explodes above the warhead and releases metal fragments the arena system covers a 360° area arround the t90 i dont know how it is at other tanks but the t90 is 360° protected and your beloved javelin has a awful accuracy at top attacks

[joetheredant]

Wow! Simply amazing.