In the beginning, Adam and Eve were the first 2 humans. After they were banished from the garden they had Cain and Abel. That makes 4 people. After Cain killed Abel, there are now 3 people. Now God banished Cain, but Cain protests, scared that "people in other cities" would hurt him and that others would "hunt him down in revenge" when he was alone in exile. Quick question though: How is this possible when the only 2 people left to do so are his parents, who are quite old by then?
Exodus 35:2 "For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death".
Killed the local seveneleven cashier for working on sunday. Said to the police´I was doing gods work, but they called me a robbing, murdering sob and threw my ass in jail.
Sorry sir, but the word of God just contradicted itself. Commandment 6 states not to murder.
As a Christian I don't understand the ignorance of these evangelical Christian folks who do gatherings like this and then focus on things like abortion and homosexuality. First off, about eight years ago while scanning radio stations I came upon Focus On The Family where the host was noting that divorce was higher amongst Christians than non-Christians. This was years before the same sex marriage laws. So blaming same sex marriage for the high divorce rates is both illiterate and disingenuous
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Sins are whatever a person makes them out to be. If we lived in a country with christian "sharia law" then places like las vegas and atlantic city would not exist because greed is a sin. lets face it, the bible is full of bullshit written not by God but by a bunch of whacked out middle easterners thousands of years ago.
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GOD HATES RELIGION (religion is oppressive) but HE LOVES GAYS. That is why He, Christ, will FREE any gay who simply & sincerely asks Him, from the OPPRESSION of homosexuality so that he/she can enter into the fulfilled life that is everyone's birthright. Countless homosexuals have been freed thru the INCLUSIVE TRANSFORMATIVE LOVE of Christ. Jesus does not merely tolerate people's oppression, He frees them thru the loving power of His Holy Spirit. check out exodusinternational org
McCain is a idiot. Everything Jesus spoke of was from the Old testament. Jesus said "I and the father are one" John 10:30. Jesus never had a disagreement with anything in the Old testament. Jesus was actually stricter saying just thinking about lusting was the same as committing it. So it is inconceivable that Jesus would support sodomy,homosexuality, and sexual immorality. It is also inconceivable that Jesus would say God was wrong for anything he did.
@Mlwtca Your statement was very well put. I think that often times in this debate on whether or not Jesus supported homosexuality, proponents of the act say that Jesus never spoke directly on the issue. As you stated, this couldn't be farther from the truth since Jesus is the Word of God. They are inseparable. Homosexuality is a sin, and there is simply no getting around it.
Homosexual behavior is right, is natural! its theolically blessed by Jesus, Jesus din care about pro-creation in Matthew 19:11, 12 n evolution tells us that homosexuality has been found in over 1500 species!
So, since u have:
NO FACTS
NO Evidence TO SUPPORT YOUR "PUSSY SUCKING"CLAIMS
AND YET TO CHOOSE TO BE ALIVE, well, then I suggest you try to condemn
2. If it has no procreation potential, then we should also not let the old and infertile marry.
3. Evolution explains why homosexuals exist. Genetic abnormalies cause homosexuality and thus, although reproduction is impossible, homosexuals will continue to be born from heterosexual parents.
4. Homosexuality is present in many species, and thus it is fully natural.
@shadowofthewarriors Sanity is the key word. I'd like to present a few thoughts. 1. Determining wrong vs. right implies morality; morality implies God. Without God, there is no morality b/c morality serves no purpose without Someone to which moral beings are held accountable. Thus, to determine whether homosexuality is right or wrong, we must ask God. Virtually, all major religious texts, including the Bible, emphatically state that h/s is wrong, as it violates the principles of basic humanity.
@drolsitsirhc Morality does not necessarily imply God or religious texts. This is because God is a man-made entity, and without man, God would not exist because the concept of a higher diety would not arise. And if we accept the bible as you stated, word for word, we would still be making sacrifices, and putting to death all dissenting scientists.
Homosexuality is not right or wrong. It is how a person is. Just like having brown hair is not right or wrong. Just how you are born
@shadowofthewarriors 1(con't). According to God, He created man and woman to become one flesh; this leaves no room for the practice of homosexuality. 2. Not every sexual relationship b/t a man &a woman will lead to pregnancy; consider when a couple has sex outside of the time of a woman's menstruation. God places no ban on this, as several sexual relationships in the Bible did not result in pregnancy. However, God emphatically bans ALL homosexual activity, saying the practice will lead to death.
@shadowofthewarriors 3. There is NO evidence to support evolution on ANY grounds. In fact, many renown scientists are rejecting Darwinism altogether b/c of the unethical/shady depths that pro-Darwin scientists have gone to "prove" Darwin's theory; the fraudulence of Haekel's drawings; the fact that the Cambrian explosion directly contradicts Darwin's theory; the presence of a fossil-making factory in China. Ultimately, no one, including Darwin, has ever been able to prove evolution.
@shadowofthewarriors 3(con't). Since evolution remains an unsupported theory, you cannot explain the practice of homosexuality by it. Also, homosexuality has no gene to support its basis as genetic, so it cannot be the result of a genetic abnormality. For the sake of argument, though, you admit that h/s is abnormal by saying that it is the result of genetic abnormality. Herein lies a fundamental point. Regardless of where the practice originates, you (a supporter) acknowledge that it is deviant.
@shadowofthewarriors 3 (con't). That point cannot be missed b/c many people pretend that the act of h/s is normal or natural; however, innately, we all know better, as you've acknowledged. 4. People should never seek the permission/validation of animals to engage in acts. Animals do plenty of things that may be natural for them but unnatural for human, ie. eating fecal matter, eating/killing their young. These things are completely unnatural for humans, as is h/s. Nothing in science supports it.
@shadowofthewarriors 4 (con't). If something is natural, is should be supported by nature. No aspect of science/nature supports homosexuality -not biology (there is no gene, and therefore, is not genetic); the environment (homosexuals cannot reproduce ever & the population would die off); anatomy (the anus expels human fecal matter, and no body parts should have contact with it for contamination purposes; and there is no additional, uncontaminated body part by which homosexuals can enter).
@shadowofthewarriors Thank you for mentioning the fact that this issue should be addressed through sanity and with logic. I've noticed that proponents have a VERY difficult time considering this issue with such a lens; instead, they use platitudinous expressions, which seek to appeal to emotion rather than any form of logic. When they cannot defend their positions, they say "I'm offended." The result is that people never really actually see the logic or rationale in the situation. So thanks
@drolsitsirhc 1. Homosexuality and anal sex are unrelated; many straight people also have anal sex.
2. Evolution is a theory; that is why it is called a theory. However, far more evidence and logic still support it than creationism.
3. The reason that it is so hard to locate the exacy mutation that occurs to support homosexuality is the want to produce offspring with a member of the opposite sex is diminished.
4. If something is natural, it should be able to naturally happen.
@drolsitsirhc 1. HIV/AIDS were transmitted through sex of both straight and gay people. Infection rates are nearly equal among both. And HIV/AIDS are also highly present in places such as Uganda, where homosexuality is almost a capital offense.
2. I have explained the reasoning behind evolution. Evidence includes remains of similar "people-like" organisms from millions of years ago.
3. So?
4. It is just as natural as placing a penis in a femal anus.
@shadowofthewarriors 1. False. HIV/AIDS was introduced into the U.S. through homosexual, wealthy married males from Europe who would have orgies in bath houses/saunas. They spread the disease to their wives, and that's partly how it was introduced to the heterosexual community. The other way was through blood transfusions, when homosexuals donated tainted AIDS blood to hospitals. The people primarily affected were hemophiliacs, who receive frequent blood transfusions.
@drolsitsirhc oh, you are talking about how HIV/AIDS *gets* to the USA. It doesn't matter, seeing as it exists equally in gays and straight people and its spread has no influenced/is not influenced on the marital status of gays.
@drolsitsirhc lives of gays and straight people had been taken already. It doesn't matter how AIDS gets to the USA; it matters how it spreads. And it spreads equally among all people.
@shadowofthewarriors It most definitely matters how it got to the states when you have homosexuals running around telling straight people that they "have blood on their hands" for the high incidence of homosexuals killing themselves. It matters b/c this group ABSOLUTELY refuses to take responsibility for their actions (murders by way of AIDS to straight women & through blood transfusions). What you're saying is that now that damage has been done, it doesn't matter now. That's extremely selfish.
@drolsitsirhc I'm not saying that all straight people (and gays do not either) are bad. The reason that gays have higher suicide rates is that in many schools, people are intolerant and give gays (who, obviously would not want to be bullied, and thus in many instances, would then change if it was possible), the worst experiences imaginable in a school until pushed to suicide. And it is quite selfish to blame the gays for spreading AIDS to the USA. Please explain what makes spread
@shadowofthewarriors I don't believe that it is selfish to blame h/s for the spread of AIDS throughout this country b/c they ARE to blame. And it's not just this country, but European countries, as well. As for African countries, we don't know why the disease is so rampant on that continent, b/c they do not practice h/s to any degree near what it is practiced in Europe &in the States. In any case, denying h/s role in the spread of the disease does not stop it from happening but only furthers it.
@shadowofthewarriors Instead of denying their role in the spread of it (since 56% of the world's population that has AIDS/HIV practices homosexuality), we must acknowledge it and seek to change the behavior. We must determine what is the underlying cause of the practice and from that we can seek to change the behavior.
To answer your question, what makes it spread is the fact that the anus is a perfect vehicle for transmitting the virus from someone's penis to the other's bloodstream.
@shadowofthewarriors I don't believe that homosexuals should be vilified or mistreated b/c they engage in this act, but it is indeed wrong. We must see it for what it truly is instead of lying about it.
According to the Bible, people become h/s because they engage in idolatry. Basically, God is EXTREMELY disapproving of idolatry, so when people do not repent of the act, God allows their minds to conjure up fantasies/desires that are against their nature. The result is homosexuality (Rom.1)
@drolsitsirhc You use the bible as a reliable source (basically, a document written thousands of years ago without knowledge of even the number 0). I can write my own bible, say the earth was made by a flying spaghetti monster, get it printed millions of times, and it is siddenely true. And the bible itself condones slavery. Is that to be allowed?
@shadowofthewarriors If the Bible condones slavery, why does God say in 1 Timothy 1:10 that slave-traders/owners are under the law and will not inherit the kingdom of heaven?
No prophesy in the Bible has been proven false. If you disagree, please tell me what prophesy is false. What historical aspects are false? How is it unreliable? Even Rev. 13, regarding the RFID chip is coming to pass as we speak. Please tell me what is false.
@shadowofthewarriors There is no proof as it stands on how HIV/AIDS spread across the Eastern and Southern parts of the African continent. One theory is that the disease was passed by eating "bush" meat, a "commodity" of primates with SIV, the animal-version of HIV.
I reiterate, do the research on Haekel's embryo drawings and other so-called evolution "evidence" and you will see that much of that stuff was made up. Haekel was condemned by his peers for doctoring his photos.
@shadowofthewarriors Evolution is not logical. What is logical about humans descending from apes, yet apes are still around with no prospect of evolving into anything? Darwin posits that species will evolve into more advanced beings and the weaker of them will die off. If this is so, and apes evolved into humans, then why are apes (apparently presumed the weaker since they are the "ancestors") still around and consistently multiplying? Answer this. There is NOTHING logical about evolution.
@shadowofthewarriors What is logical is that the earth, in all its perfection and order (ie. the sun not being too close to scorch but close enough to warm; gravity; the human body), was designed and crafted into a place suitable for humans to live. "Perhaps the reason the earth seems designed is because it was designed."
@shadowofthewarriors God is not made & isn't subject to the rules of creation b/c He is the Creator and He existed before His own concept of creation.
Proof of the earth's design can be seen in EVERY aspect of creation. The earth's ability to both facilitate &sustain human life will falter if even ONE law or function was out of place. The odds of it being an accident are 1 to one hundred trilllion trillion trillion. For ex., the sun is close enough to warm but not close enough to burn.
@drolsitsirhc Who made this "god," this supposed creator? How would it then have the powers to create earth? You can use your pebbles analogy for this one. What is the likelihood that it would exist just as it is?
Or you could use your analogy for pebbles again.
What is the likelihood that a green would land on top of a blue, with a red right next to it, a green behind both, and a yellow 3 cm away? That is just as likely.
@shadowofthewarriors As I stated before, God is not subject to the laws of creation, physics, or nature, because He created them all.
To your second question, using your criteria that the pebbles would land as such, what is the likelihood that they would land that way 50 times in a row?
Now let me ask you a question, do you honestly believe the universe just fell into life sustaining perfection by accident? Please give me an example of when luck has ever created such 100% ideal conditions.
@drolsitsirhc Luck creates ideal conditions for the one lottery winner. And anyway, as I stated in another comment, it is actuallly very likely that in all the billions of solar systems in billions of galaxies in the universe, one planet would be able to sustain life perfectly.
@shadowofthewarriors Try this test. Take a bowl of fruity pebbles and throw the cereal into the air. Let it land. Do you honestly believe that there is a likelihood that all the flakes will land perfectly with each color (all the reds together, all the blues)? That is virtually impossible, let alone the chance that such flakes will create into something that can sustain some life form. Too, if the world did start with happenstance and irrationality, how then are people able to rationalize?
@drolsitsirhc Or you could use an analogy with dice: You would say that if 5 dice were rolled, one at a time, and they were all "1s," then it must be done by "god." But you then say that it was just chance w/ nothing special if the first die you rolled was a 5, the next a 6, the next a 2, the next a 5, and the last a 3. But both are equally likely. Any combination, how "perfect" or "imperfect" it may seem is equally likely. That the earth was "perfect" was then lucky chance.
@shadowofthewarriors Here's the problem. The earth has numerous finely-tuned conditions that if even one were moved even in the slightest, life would no longer be sustainable. Look at general relativity, gravity, nuclear fusion in stars, nuclear force...if any of these were tinkered with even in the absolute slightest, life would be impossible. Universe fine-tuning is at least one part in a hundred million billion billion billion billion billion. There is no way in the world that is coincidence.
@drolsitsirhc You can then look at how the earth is one planet in a 10000000 other bodies all over the universe that we have been able to find life on. Therefore, one in 100000000 is most likely going to be suitable for life. And if the earth was designed, why did it start out as a hot ball of lava before it cooled (that process took 2 billion years?)
@shadowofthewarriors There's no proof whatsoever that the earth took 2 billion years. In fact the Big Bang Theory suggests that the earth came together in a less than a week-the same amount of time the Bible says that it took God to create the world. Also, there's no evidence that there is more than one universe. Too, even if there are millions of other universes, I still can't believe that one will have the exact measures for life. And how did we end up in that particular universe? Coincidence?
@drolsitsirhc We would end up in that one place that life is formed because we are alive. Obviously, if we are alive, we would end up where life is possible. And in this one solar system from billions in this galazy with trillions of other galaxies, it is very likely that one place would be inhabitalbe.
@drolsitsirhc And if this "god" exists, and it was all good, knowing, and powerful how would it make it possible for homosexuality to exist if it hated homosexuals?
@shadowofthewarriors And if this "god" exists, and it was all good, knowing, and powerful how would it make it possible for homosexuality to exist if it hated homosexuals?
@shadowofthewarriors God has given humans free will - to choose Him or sin. He wants to have a relationship with us. But He won't force us. Homosexuality, like all other sins are choices that people can make.
We must remember that the world was created for God by God. Humans are His creations. The creation would dare not tell the creator what ought to be, but God gave us the permissive will to do as we please. His desire is that we choose Him so that we can choose eternal life with Him.
@drolsitsirhc Why would people make the "sin" of homosexuality with the crap society gives them, as I have already asked? There are still many sane homosexuals.
@shadowofthewarriors When you say that there are "sane homosexuals," my response is that the act of homosexuality is depravity. So how can a person engaging in a depraved act claim sanity if sanity requires that one NOT engage in a depraved act?
This is not meant to be harsh; I simply deal in the realm of logic, and if something doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't make sense. It's not with any ill-will that I ask these questions. But people need to think and these questions need to be asked.
@drolsitsirhc "If something doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't make sense." There have been times in the past where things that make sense don't at first. And how is the act of homosexuality depravity? It could even be kissing another of the same sex passionately. It has no negative consequence, is common among heterosexuals, and is something that people enjoy. And relationships such as marriage are not representative of sex, they show a lifelong commitment between 2 parners.
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@drolsitsirhc please press control-f on the page I linked you to and enter "haekel." No matches will be found because enough evidence already exists supporting evolution.
@shadowofthewarriors I will look at the page you sent me to; I can't do it now because I have something to do. But if you can, please look up some things on Haekel, and I will send you some things, too. He was a fraud. As for Darwin, his theory was NEVER substantiated as a fact. That's problematic. It remains theory.
@drolsitsirhc Haekel is all you have to say against evolution but many other scientists have also worked on it. I never said anything about Haekel being right or wrong.
And I have already explained how evolution works. But natural selection is also slow and does not necessarily weed out all species. Part of why apes multiply is that people protect them in areas they live. But they arent taking the world over like people did at all.
@shadowofthewarriors It is unnatural for anyone's penis to be hanging out in anyone's fecal matter. Do you wonder if you have an issue with boundaries? Where is the line drawn exactly when it becomes okay to indulge in fecal matter?
The assumption that the only form of sex (although you still do not mention oral as a possiblity) available tot gays is anal is not related to marital status or homosexuality because the practice is also present in women. Please explain why any woman who has engaged in anal sex is not noticed or attacked, ever? If you are ok with your penis in feces, go ahead! It affects nobody else.
@shadowofthewarriors I think the reason why women are not attacked when it comes to anal sex is because the practice is not prevalent in women. Some women engage in that; however, we all know that anal sex is extremely rampant in the homosexual community. That's something I am not willing to debate. Because homosexuals engage in this act so frequently (and it is such a horribly perverse act), lots of people have trouble wrapping their minds around the sanity of the homosexual community.
@drolsitsirhc Sanity and anal sex are very different things. Disgusting things as deemed by some can be deemed as fun by others. Kind of how one person giving oral sex can have fun while another woman deems it disgusting.
@shadowofthewarriors Some lines are NEVER to be crossed by people who have a modicum of sanity. For example, having sex with babies may very well be considered as "fun" for some pedophiles, but doing so shows a clear lack of sanity. The same can be said about having sex with one's dead loved one. Playing in someone feces, or anal sex, may be considered as "fun" for some people, but doing so shows a clear mental disturbance.
@drolsitsirhc Having sex with babies does not show a lack of sanity. Sanity s the ability to anticipate the effect of one's actions. Gays have, then, full sanity because they do not participate in any actions with any unintented or bad consequences. However, sex with a loved one leads to trauma on other living members of the family and sex with a baby is easily traumatic to the parents and harmful to the baby.
@shadowofthewarriors Sanity is implicated b/c another part of sanity involves one's ability to see without distortion. If one does not understand consequences, they have clearly distorted a situation. A pedophile distorts sexuality by replacing a fully grown person with a baby who cannot fulfill the sexual purposes desired. Likewise, homosexuals distort sexuality in the way of misusing body parts by replacing a woman with a male. As I stated before, plenty of harm results.
@shadowofthewarriors Anal sex results in bursting of blood vessels, which opens the receiver/giver up for exposure to transmission &contracting HIV/AIDS. The frequent thrusting of the penis inside the anus breaks the very delicate anal sphincter, which creates problems retaining fecal matter. Too, that thrusting inside the anus punctures the intestines, which can cause the intestines to burst. This also causes anal warts. These problems would significantly decrease if anal sex isn't practiced.
@drolsitsirhc Some problems could decrease, potentially, such as anal warts. But still, if these are possible, why does it not happen in so many occurences?
@shadowofthewarriors I've done an awful lot of research on this over the past year b/c I wanted to be certain that I understood what I was speaking about. What I've learned is that, basically, HPV (anal cancer, warts) is far more common in the homosexual community than discussed and than in non-homosexual community. This virus occurs in about 35% of homosexual males. That is over 1/3 of the homosexual population, which is definitely significant! It only occurs in non-homosexuals at about 1%.
@drolsitsirhc I do not see why HPV being any more prevalent in homosexual males (we arent even discussing females for some reason?) makes homosexuality wrong. Is eating cake or candy excessively a sin even though it harms no other person and only has the chance to make you fat?
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@shadowofthewarriors Also, rupturing of the anal sphincter is EXTREMELY common, so much so that many homosexuals have to invest in "butt-plugs." These devices prevent fecal matter from leaking out after sphincter breaks. You will find a horribly sad occurrence in homosexual males who have AIDS. Many of them end up dying in their own fecal matter b/c they've no longer the strength to walk to a nearby bathroom & they can't hold it b/c their sphincter is broken. This is truly heartbreakingly sad.
@shadowofthewarriors As for penises in feces, that is truly depraved. No person with any measure of sanity could perceive that act as remotely normal. Herein lies the problem. If homosexuals want to do that, then by all means. But don't dare force/threaten/bully others into accepting it as anything beyond depravity. Don't pass laws forcing people to accept that behavior. And definitely don't blame others when horrible things,(ie., suicide, AIDS) happen as a result of living a homosexual life.
@drolsitsirhc AIDS, as I have explained to you numerous times, is not a result of a homosexual life.
Nobody forces you to accept anal sex as anything besides what you perceive it as. If homosexuals or *heterosexuals* want to do it, then by all means. Accepting gay marriage is not the same as accepting anal sex; the two are very different things.
@shadowofthewarriors It is a result of homosexual lifestyle b/c homosexual lifestyle consists heavily of a behavior that is directly responsible for transmitting HIV/AIDS. As for homosexual marriage, if it is so similar to real marriage, then why is sex a supposed "non-issue" for homosexuals when for real marriage, sex consummates the marriage. Yes, sex and marriage are intertwined and cannot be separated. You're trying to argue a point that is asinine & we both know it.
@drolsitsirhc If sex and marriage were intertwined, why are those who are handicapped, paralyzed, or old allowed to marry? And why are 55-hour marriages (cough Britney Spears and Kim Kardashian) allowed? Is marriage then only sex and money? And marriage is a lifelong bond between two lovers, not a bond saying that they will have sex. That already can happen, regardless of marital status.
@shadowofthewarriors Just b/c some people cannot engage in sex for physical reasons or health reasons, or b/c some people make a mockery of marriage, does not mean that marriage and sex are any less intertwined. Yes, people can have sex regardless of marital status, but God ordained sex for marriage. Actually, His very first commandment to Adam and Eve, a married couple, was to have sex. He goes on to say that sex will join the two souls together, as they will become one flesh through sex.
@drolsitsirhc If you claim that this god exists, please tell me: Why is it that I have lived my life alright without this god, and so have billions of other people who did not believe in this entity that might not exist and you claim everyone has to live their life by. Faith is not a reason for existence.
@shadowofthewarriors God has shown Himself through His creation...and by the fact that we are even having this conversation. You identify as an "atheist," which means "no belief in God or a god." You identify yourself with the very thing that say doesn't exist. When else does one identify themselves with something they claim doesn't exist? If He doesn't exist, you most certainly would not identify yourself with Him, but rather, you'd identify with the thing that you claim DOES exist.
@drolsitsirhc I do not claim that I don't exist. I claim that I am the result of fully rational happenstance that in this one spot, luck turned out for life. It (the processes of developing life) probably failed in many other areas in trillions of other galaxies.
@shadowofthewarriors "Rational happenstance?" You've the benefit of the doubt that you simply do not know the meaning of one or both of these words. See the definitions below. What you're speaking of is absolutely impossible b/c those terms cancel each other out. It's like saying, "The heat of this ice is warmly cold." Since you obviously want to believe that there is some rationale behind your existence, why not subscribe to a line of thinking that supports that, since the one you have doesn't.
@drolsitsirhc I know what both rational and happenstance mean. Rational means something could happen logically. Happenstance means something happened by chance. For instance, if I roll a fair die, happenstance could end up with three 6's in a row. However, There is nothing irrational/illogical about it.
@shadowofthewarriors Your life is "alright" according to you and your own standards, but have you considered how your life could be better? What of the things that you indeed are missing out on because without God, it is impossible to have these things...things such as radiance from within, a knowledge of who you are, joy, peace, logic, sound mind, truth, and love. What of these things?
@drolsitsirhc I have a sound mind, logic, love my family and friends, search the truth about things around me, and form logical conclusions based on facts presented around me.
@shadowofthewarriors But how have you the capability to do so if the world was formed in absurdity, irrationality, devoid of logic and reason, and by accident?
Shouldn't everything about you be absurd, irrational, illogical, unreasonable, and accidental to follow suite with the way the world began? At what point did absurdity and irrationality suddenly produce rationality and order? Please answer this question.
If you say nature must support something for it to be natural, then you say being born, with, say, an extra leg is unnatural. It is fully natural, just an abnormal genetic mutation.
Additionally let me clarify my last comment. The gene that supports homosexuality is located; what I meant is that the exact mutation is almost impossible to locate because of the lack of homosexual offspring that allow themselves to be tested.
@shadowofthewarriors Something that is abnormal is NOT natural; that's an oxymoron. Perhaps, all things that are abnormal don't requiring "fixing" b/c they don't impact daily living in a significant way, but the abnormality of it negates it being natural.
There is NO gene for homosexuality. After exhausting virtually all of their resources on research, APA (who held a 30 year search for a gene) stated in '08 that no such gene exists, hence the reason you're unable to name the gene, specifically.
There is no sane person that would "become" a homosexual as society mistreats them so much that nobody would want to become a homosexual.
And no sane homosexual that could change, another theory opponents of gay marriage support, because any sane homosexual would do so in order to avoid the problems faces in society by gays.
@shadowofthewarriors You are making the assumption that the decision to engage in homosexuality requires sanity. Think on this: a male is seeking to derive sexual pleasure by inserting his penis (not into a vagina, which is the center of female sexual reproductive system) but rather into another male's bacteria/parasite-laden, foul-smelling fecal eliminator.(and while some heteros do this, this is primary/only way for h/s to have sex). Does that sound like the actions of a sane person to you?
@drolsitsirhc Many sane males insert their reproductive organs into the rear ends of females. It happens, also very frequently. Anal sex is not only present in homosexuals.
And oral sex is fully unnatural by your logic, it exists merely for pleasure but does not help advance any sort of natural happening such as birth. Should we outlaw oral sex?
@shadowofthewarriors Anal sex is the ONLY way of sex for homosexuals. It is heavily practiced in this group, far more than in heteros b/c there are plenty of women who have respect for themselves; I will not dispute something that you and I both know is true. The bottom line is the practice is absolutely REVOLTING!
Regarding oral sex, you don't defecate and have diarrhea out of your mouth. My issue is the nature of the act of anal sex. You are literally involving yourself with human feces.
@drolsitsirhc So basically, now you switch from the "unnatural" card to the "disgusting" card once I point out that the "unnatural" behaviour is also present in opposite-sex couples? And how is a woman going to stick her penis in another lesbian's anus? please explain.
@shadowofthewarriors No I have not switched. It is BOTH unnatural and disgusting. As for lesbians, the practice of fisting is still unnatural. The reproductive systems of men and women serve a purpose. They're not obsolete or unimportant organs. The male penis is fit for woman's vagina. This basic element of humanity can't be ignored. Modifying/taking away/replacing body parts is unnatural. Some unnatural things, however, get into the realm of outright disgusting. Anal sex is both.
@drolsitsirhc Why do you take sexual practices done by both straight and gay couples, label gay couples as doing them constantly, then ignore the fact that they are practiced also by straight couples? There are many, many straight men and women who practice fisting and anal sex but you do not condemn them at all. And oral sex is unnatural, and sperm is not meant to be swallowed and is disgusting, but you do not condemn straight couples who practice it.
@shadowofthewarriors You are ignoring my point. Straight couples do NOT practice this behavior anywhere near the rate that homosexuals do, and that is why homosexuality and anal sex are mentioned in the same vein. It is notorious in the homosexual community, and you are attempting to gloss over that obvious fact. I conceded that oral sex was unnatural. However, there are FAR most devastating consequences associated with anal sex than there are with oral sex. Stop ignoring the obvious.
@drolsitsirhc When you state that there are devastating consequences for anal sex, please tell me what they are? If you claim the presence of a higher power that we must work to please, then you take the burden of proof to show me why I should live my life as that "higher power" describes.
@shadowofthewarriors Sure...HIV/AIDS (anal sex is still the number one way to transmit and contract the disease); anal cancer (HPV); anal warts; broken anal sphincter (the piece of tissue that opens and closes for elimination); intestinal perforation (anal sex is the second most common reason for this to occur after supreme constipation); intestinal parasites; and parasites in the mouth. These are a few of the consequences that result from engaging in anal sex. It is EXTREMELY dangerous.
@drolsitsirhc HIV/AIDS is spread through any unprotected blood transfusion or sexual act that has no precautions used. Therefore, it can spread by way of blood through anyone, through a vagina, or any other body part. Even a finger by means of blood transfusion.
@shadowofthewarriors Point well taken, but the primary way of spreading the disease is through male to male sex b/c of the wide passageway of the anus, as well as the broken blood vessels. Look at what the CDC or WebMD have to say about anal sex.
@shadowofthewarriors Describing why people should live as God desires would require a belief that He is. Then, you could understand that you were created with a purpose and that you are not an accident. Then, you could understand Who He is. Then, you could understand the nature of having a personal relationship with Him. Then, you could understand why you should live as He desires. All of this must occur before you could begin to understand the importance of living as God desires.
@shadowofthewarriors God allowed that to occur. Please answer this question, since I have yet to hear the answer from any atheist.
If the world occurred through absurdity and irrationality, how then, are humans, the product of an irrational world, capable of rationalizing anything. Where did the capability to rationalize and reason come from if the earth began with no rationale or reason?
@shadowofthewarriors God allowed that to occur. Please answer this question, since I have yet to hear the answer from any atheist.
If the world occurred through absurdity and irrationality, how then, are humans, the product of an irrational world, capable of rationalizing anything. Where did the capability to rationalize and reason come from if the earth began with no rationale or reason?
@shadowofthewarriors Also, I believe it is so important that you know that God doesn't have a bunch of rules that you must live by in order to go to heaven. Basically, He requires two things: (1) that we love Him above everything and with our whole self; (2) that we love others (not their actions but them as God's creations). Once we repent of our sins and accept Jesus Christ as Lord through our belief and confessions, we receive the Holy Spirit. Then transformation from within takes place.
@drolsitsirhc If I were to look at this logically, I could then say Jesus was just a person. And now you say that heaven exists and god exists and that we must live by this? Have you somehow found a way to communicate with higher deities and the dead? I was taught as you were taught. But I and many others around me questioned those "facts." And we could find no logical explanation showing this god as an entity while people kill each other all over earth.
@shadowofthewarriors How are you capable of looking at anything with logic if the earth is the result if illogical irrational happenstance?
Well, can't the same thing be said about homosexuality? Can't a straight person say that there is no God b/c people engage in depraved acts such as murder and homosexuality (which tend to mentioned together in the Bible)?
People who have a personal relationship with God indeed talk to God and He talks to them.
@drolsitsirhc Happenstance is fully rational. As I said, if i roll 5 dice together, and eventually one roll ends up as five "1s," then this is happenstance. But it isn't illogical. And homosexuality is the state of attraction towards a member of the same sex, not the act of having sex with one.
@shadowofthewarriors Rationality:A set of reasons or a logical basis for a course of action or a particular belief
Happenstance: coincidence; accident
To say that happenstance is rational is an oxymoron b/c there is no reason in happenstance. Something is rational when logic is provided for an action. Thus, someone must provide the logic. If there is no designer to provide the logic behind the act of creating the world, then the world happened by accident...void of rationale/logic/or reason.
@drolsitsirhc rational (from the dictionary) means reasonable, within the bounds of reason, not without reason. The reason I could roll five one's in a row is that I happened to roll them in the correct fashion.
@shadowofthewarriors (cont) Too, your example is devoid of reason or rationale. You try it. What is the logic behind rolling five 1's? If there was no plan to roll five 1's, and that occurred by happenstance, then you have no logic by which you can use to explain why the dice rolled on five 1's, since it was never intended in the first place. Thus, without logic to explain why you rolled five 1's, you have no rationale b/c rationale is composed of logic. So, happenstance is fully irrational.
@drolsitsirhc I could say I rolled five 1's because I happened to roll them in a way that physics would dictate that the die would end up with a one five times in a row. Nothing about that is illogical. However, it still did not need intention to occur.
@shadowofthewarriors (con't) The transformation is done by the Holy Spirit and it is one of the most AMAZING things you will ever see. People's entire countenance is different. After inward transformation occurs, your heart is drawn closer to God. It is so beyond anything you'll ever experience apart from God. He now guides you, and transforms you into the person He desires. He opens your eyes to the spirit realm and to truth. You love in a way never before. You see in a way never before.
@shadowofthewarriors (con't) His truth becomes THE truth to you and you now have purpose. Living apart from God means that you believe you are an accident and without purpose, but God reveals His intent for you. This in no way means that life will be perfect and without trials. Quite the opposite is true. But now you can endure those trials, and you will come to find that enduring the trials with God right there with you is far greater than having never experienced the trials &His faithfulness.
@shadowofthewarriors (con't) Ultimately, once you have been transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, you will WANT to live as God created you to. It won't be a task or a chore, but your heart will line up with God's Will. Living inside of His will will cause you to see sin differently. As for homosexuality, you will see it for what it truly is - a lie created by the enemy to destroy your life and keep you eternally separated from God. That's the enemy's goal -to keep you blind & to kill you.
@shadowofthewarriors To your point, there are plenty of groups who engage in socially-maligned practices -pedosexuals, zoosexuals, incestuous couples, necrosexuals, homosexuals. All of these practices are unnatural within the realm of humanity. So, a pedosexual can very well ask "Why would I choose this life, only to be shunned?"
Too, they don't seem too interested in avoiding problems when they prance around naked at "gay pride" marches, or tell others of their sex practices to get attention.
About this comment: marriage requires consent by both parties. Therefore, it highly unlikely that an animal or dead person can sign a marriage agreement. And I have never seen a nude gay pride march.
And many times, people who are too young lack the capacity to fully understand marriage.
However, if two adults are legal age, one is 25, and one is 85, if they wish to marry, that's on them.
@drolsitsirhc Southern decadence is similar to a nudist beach; it is fully legal and recognized and is not meant as a gay-rights rally. If Souther decadence is to be attacked, attack nudist beaches.
from a biblical point of view homosexuality is a sin, it states that clear in the bible. just like lying is a sin and just like murder is a sin, I don't know why people tip toe around this issue.
I agree with him, I mean Its only gay marriage that causes abortion, wars, earthquakes, etc.
What 2 men or 2 women do in the bedroom in private has a great affect on the planet! I mean we have to PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF BRITNEY SPEARS 55 HOUR WEDDING and legalizing gay marriage would ruin the sanctity of this marriage!
And since gay marriage has existed in ancient Greece, Rome (until the rise of Christianity), India and China for a long long time, It caused many losses
@iTitanium I meant their wedding lasted for more than 55 hours! Their wedding was a dedicated symbol of true long life love too. (LOL) but Britney spears had a much shorter 1,
Homosexuality is a sin, but that doesn't give us any reason to discriminate against them. We're all sinners. God hates the sin... but, not the person.
If homosexuality is a sin, so is heterosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality, etc. and since humans are God now a days that they have the power to twist the scriptures to make them on in their own version, I think so, even driving a car, flying a plane, etc are sin 2 right?
Daniel 4:17 God sets up over the kingdoms of men, "the basest of men".
Ephesians 6:12 We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against... "spiritual wickedness in high places".
The Bible is clear on homosexuality. Now it is true that this disease can be transmitted genetically; but the simple fact is is that Christ can FREE PEOPLE from this filth and clean them up and give them hope!
I am a living testimony to that fact. There are more people out there with similar stories. God bless
Excuse me, dear sir. Your words are most unkind and they do not reflect a Christ-like spirit of love. Jesus warns us that we'll be judged by our words (Matt 12:36-37).
Now, sodomy is condemned as sin by God. That is the principle reason why Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. Just think of it! Out of TWO WHOLE CITIES only FOUR willed to follow God. The rest rejected the solemn messages sent from Heaven in love.
I had homosexual desires and I changed, so there. God bless you.
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Dear Mother fucking pussy, if u were so ugly minded, I would have treated u with less filth! sodomy is a sin? But whats the sin of Sodom???
The sins odf Sodom are not given properly in the scriptures and the ATTEMPTED GANG RAPE of ANGELS (not men) cannot be the reason of the destruction of sodom since god already decided to burn the cities BEFORE this took place! so, as usual, FUCK U and read the bible b4 u show your ugly face here!
@TreasuresOfTheLORD I m so sorry bitch that u dont feel that my words do not reflect the christ-like spirit of love!!
and I m so shocked to hear that condemning 2 men who love each other with pure heart and soul is a curse by God! and Love between 2 men (no matter how pure is a disease), So, put your pussy inside your mouth and go back to 1BC n join the pharisees to Kill Jesus! since u know only do tern love as Disease and filth, as u want only boobs for your ugly fucking mouth!
U didnt have homosexual desires! U had desires to condemn people who are not closeted like you! because you are a shameful little maggot who would rather spend his life sucking vaginas n biting boobs rather than to face the reality!
I m gay n I din choose to be gay! n contrary to u I have the power to tell the world the truth! n since Jesus blessed a same sex union, He had 2 DADS n he never condemned homosexuality, so I m Good with my God, unlike a self-hating maggot like u.
And by the way, I don't believe in sex before marriage either. And I'm not married.
False prophets are to be put to death, yes. In Revelation 16:13 and 20:10 the false prophet are those modern Christian churches which claim mto know and do the will of God; yet walk not with God.
By the way, "hell" simply means "the grave". The wages of sin is death, not life in fire. It says in Mal. 4:3 that the wicked will one day become ASHES. So much for the ever-burning hell theory.
Do u believe in Wearing clothes of same fibre? if you do then FUCK YOU, since the hebrew word to translate the Leviticus 18:22 n 20:13 as ABOMINATION is "TOEVAH" which means something which is unclean in idol worship! not sinful!
So u can check with the scriptures or Die!!!! n then come with more of your filthy diseased fucking pussy to bash others!!!!
Whenever pride and ambition are indulged, the life is marred, for pride, feeling no need, closes the heart against the infinite blessings of Heaven. He who makes self-glorification his aim will find himself destitute of the grace of God, through whose efficiency the truest riches and the most satisfying joys are won.
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Put your pussy inside your mouth and talk about only your crap of homosexuality, if u have the balls! a 17 year old is challenging u!
@drolsitsirhc
I have finally accepted god and his perfect designs. Check these ones out!
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shadowofthewarriors 1 week ago
l o fucking l. "Gay marriage should not be legal, but we shouldnt discriminate." MIND FUCKING BLOWN.
slipknotjake 1 week ago
@drolsitsirhc
In the beginning, Adam and Eve were the first 2 humans. After they were banished from the garden they had Cain and Abel. That makes 4 people. After Cain killed Abel, there are now 3 people. Now God banished Cain, but Cain protests, scared that "people in other cities" would hurt him and that others would "hunt him down in revenge" when he was alone in exile. Quick question though: How is this possible when the only 2 people left to do so are his parents, who are quite old by then?
shadowofthewarriors 1 week ago
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@drolsitsirhc
Exodus 35:2 "For six days work may be done, but on the seventh day you shall have a holy day, a sabbath of complete rest to the LORD; whoever does any work on it shall be put to death".
Killed the local seveneleven cashier for working on sunday. Said to the police´I was doing gods work, but they called me a robbing, murdering sob and threw my ass in jail.
Sorry sir, but the word of God just contradicted itself. Commandment 6 states not to murder.
shadowofthewarriors 1 week ago
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As a Christian I don't understand the ignorance of these evangelical Christian folks who do gatherings like this and then focus on things like abortion and homosexuality. First off, about eight years ago while scanning radio stations I came upon Focus On The Family where the host was noting that divorce was higher amongst Christians than non-Christians. This was years before the same sex marriage laws. So blaming same sex marriage for the high divorce rates is both illiterate and disingenuous
Missytrilakes 1 week ago
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WHAT KIND CHRISTIAN IS ROMNEY AND MCCAIN practice being gay is not just a sin but an abomination PLUS A TREAT TO HUMANS DECENCY - THERE IS A MOVEMENT COMING FROM ARABIC WORLD AND RUSSIA TO END THIS SHAMEFUL MOVEMENT (practice being gay) lulu.com/spotlight/helenohenzo
THEHELENOHENZO 2 weeks ago
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j4wsh 2 weeks ago
Sins are whatever a person makes them out to be. If we lived in a country with christian "sharia law" then places like las vegas and atlantic city would not exist because greed is a sin. lets face it, the bible is full of bullshit written not by God but by a bunch of whacked out middle easterners thousands of years ago.
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@fdhlytr67510 OH YA, IT IS WELL CLEAR IN BIBLE AND COMMON SENSE, its is more than a sin, it is an abomination (not tolerable) THERE IS A MOVEMENT COMING FROM ARABIC WORLD AND RUSSIA TO END THIS SHAMEFUL MOVEMENT (practice being gay) lulu.com/spotlight/helenohenzo
THEHELENOHENZO 2 weeks ago
Everyone knows John McCain isn't gay...
He fcuked a few men who were though...
America is definitely in good safe hands...
Just as long as you always wash them well...
Take a leaf from Pontious Pilate there Yanks...
spacelizardlaw 3 weeks ago 2
he talks and looks like a creep.
samuriguy909 1 month ago
This guy is a LEGEND. He speaks the truth
HiralShah00 1 month ago
GOD HATES RELIGION (religion is oppressive) but HE LOVES GAYS. That is why He, Christ, will FREE any gay who simply & sincerely asks Him, from the OPPRESSION of homosexuality so that he/she can enter into the fulfilled life that is everyone's birthright. Countless homosexuals have been freed thru the INCLUSIVE TRANSFORMATIVE LOVE of Christ. Jesus does not merely tolerate people's oppression, He frees them thru the loving power of His Holy Spirit. check out exodusinternational org
jeyahs 1 month ago
@jeyahs Hey...God Bless you for your ministry. It's needed...here and now. Thank you.
patssoxity 1 month ago
@jeyahs AMAZINGLY STATED!!!
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
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BURN IN HELL YOU AIDS INFESTED ANUS FREAKS!
LYYSL 1 month ago
McCain is a idiot. Everything Jesus spoke of was from the Old testament. Jesus said "I and the father are one" John 10:30. Jesus never had a disagreement with anything in the Old testament. Jesus was actually stricter saying just thinking about lusting was the same as committing it. So it is inconceivable that Jesus would support sodomy,homosexuality, and sexual immorality. It is also inconceivable that Jesus would say God was wrong for anything he did.
Mlwtca 1 month ago
@Mlwtca Your statement was very well put. I think that often times in this debate on whether or not Jesus supported homosexuality, proponents of the act say that Jesus never spoke directly on the issue. As you stated, this couldn't be farther from the truth since Jesus is the Word of God. They are inseparable. Homosexuality is a sin, and there is simply no getting around it.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@mattetho
Homosexual behavior is right, is natural! its theolically blessed by Jesus, Jesus din care about pro-creation in Matthew 19:11, 12 n evolution tells us that homosexuality has been found in over 1500 species!
So, since u have:
NO FACTS
NO Evidence TO SUPPORT YOUR "PUSSY SUCKING"CLAIMS
AND YET TO CHOOSE TO BE ALIVE, well, then I suggest you try to condemn
1. interfiles since they cant procreate
2. ppl who eat pork, wear clothes of 2 fibers.
Or else hang yourself TODAY ITSELF!!!!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@mattetho for a sane view on the position...
1. how is it wrong?
2. If it has no procreation potential, then we should also not let the old and infertile marry.
3. Evolution explains why homosexuals exist. Genetic abnormalies cause homosexuality and thus, although reproduction is impossible, homosexuals will continue to be born from heterosexual parents.
4. Homosexuality is present in many species, and thus it is fully natural.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Dont bother wasting time on this bitch!
he has no proof that bible condemns homosexuality, he belongs in the 16th century and believe s in both EVOLUTION and the BIBLE??
He just needs a excuse to condemn. He is not even a christian. He is just looking for something to pass the time.
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Sanity is the key word. I'd like to present a few thoughts. 1. Determining wrong vs. right implies morality; morality implies God. Without God, there is no morality b/c morality serves no purpose without Someone to which moral beings are held accountable. Thus, to determine whether homosexuality is right or wrong, we must ask God. Virtually, all major religious texts, including the Bible, emphatically state that h/s is wrong, as it violates the principles of basic humanity.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Morality does not necessarily imply God or religious texts. This is because God is a man-made entity, and without man, God would not exist because the concept of a higher diety would not arise. And if we accept the bible as you stated, word for word, we would still be making sacrifices, and putting to death all dissenting scientists.
Homosexuality is not right or wrong. It is how a person is. Just like having brown hair is not right or wrong. Just how you are born
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 1(con't). According to God, He created man and woman to become one flesh; this leaves no room for the practice of homosexuality. 2. Not every sexual relationship b/t a man &a woman will lead to pregnancy; consider when a couple has sex outside of the time of a woman's menstruation. God places no ban on this, as several sexual relationships in the Bible did not result in pregnancy. However, God emphatically bans ALL homosexual activity, saying the practice will lead to death.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 3. There is NO evidence to support evolution on ANY grounds. In fact, many renown scientists are rejecting Darwinism altogether b/c of the unethical/shady depths that pro-Darwin scientists have gone to "prove" Darwin's theory; the fraudulence of Haekel's drawings; the fact that the Cambrian explosion directly contradicts Darwin's theory; the presence of a fossil-making factory in China. Ultimately, no one, including Darwin, has ever been able to prove evolution.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 3(con't). Since evolution remains an unsupported theory, you cannot explain the practice of homosexuality by it. Also, homosexuality has no gene to support its basis as genetic, so it cannot be the result of a genetic abnormality. For the sake of argument, though, you admit that h/s is abnormal by saying that it is the result of genetic abnormality. Herein lies a fundamental point. Regardless of where the practice originates, you (a supporter) acknowledge that it is deviant.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 3 (con't). That point cannot be missed b/c many people pretend that the act of h/s is normal or natural; however, innately, we all know better, as you've acknowledged. 4. People should never seek the permission/validation of animals to engage in acts. Animals do plenty of things that may be natural for them but unnatural for human, ie. eating fecal matter, eating/killing their young. These things are completely unnatural for humans, as is h/s. Nothing in science supports it.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 4 (con't). If something is natural, is should be supported by nature. No aspect of science/nature supports homosexuality -not biology (there is no gene, and therefore, is not genetic); the environment (homosexuals cannot reproduce ever & the population would die off); anatomy (the anus expels human fecal matter, and no body parts should have contact with it for contamination purposes; and there is no additional, uncontaminated body part by which homosexuals can enter).
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Thank you for mentioning the fact that this issue should be addressed through sanity and with logic. I've noticed that proponents have a VERY difficult time considering this issue with such a lens; instead, they use platitudinous expressions, which seek to appeal to emotion rather than any form of logic. When they cannot defend their positions, they say "I'm offended." The result is that people never really actually see the logic or rationale in the situation. So thanks
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc 1. Homosexuality and anal sex are unrelated; many straight people also have anal sex.
2. Evolution is a theory; that is why it is called a theory. However, far more evidence and logic still support it than creationism.
3. The reason that it is so hard to locate the exacy mutation that occurs to support homosexuality is the want to produce offspring with a member of the opposite sex is diminished.
4. If something is natural, it should be able to naturally happen.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 1. You and I both know better, but for the sake of discussion, how do you explain the introduction of HIV/AIDS into the U.S.?
2. What evidence supports evolution?
3. You are still acknowledging that h/s is abnormal if a "mutation" occurred.
4. Are you suggesting that it is natural for a male to place his penis into the anus of another male?
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc 1. HIV/AIDS were transmitted through sex of both straight and gay people. Infection rates are nearly equal among both. And HIV/AIDS are also highly present in places such as Uganda, where homosexuality is almost a capital offense.
2. I have explained the reasoning behind evolution. Evidence includes remains of similar "people-like" organisms from millions of years ago.
3. So?
4. It is just as natural as placing a penis in a femal anus.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors 1. False. HIV/AIDS was introduced into the U.S. through homosexual, wealthy married males from Europe who would have orgies in bath houses/saunas. They spread the disease to their wives, and that's partly how it was introduced to the heterosexual community. The other way was through blood transfusions, when homosexuals donated tainted AIDS blood to hospitals. The people primarily affected were hemophiliacs, who receive frequent blood transfusions.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc oh, you are talking about how HIV/AIDS *gets* to the USA. It doesn't matter, seeing as it exists equally in gays and straight people and its spread has no influenced/is not influenced on the marital status of gays.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Now it doesn't matter after it's been spread all over the place and lives have been taken.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc lives of gays and straight people had been taken already. It doesn't matter how AIDS gets to the USA; it matters how it spreads. And it spreads equally among all people.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors It most definitely matters how it got to the states when you have homosexuals running around telling straight people that they "have blood on their hands" for the high incidence of homosexuals killing themselves. It matters b/c this group ABSOLUTELY refuses to take responsibility for their actions (murders by way of AIDS to straight women & through blood transfusions). What you're saying is that now that damage has been done, it doesn't matter now. That's extremely selfish.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc I'm not saying that all straight people (and gays do not either) are bad. The reason that gays have higher suicide rates is that in many schools, people are intolerant and give gays (who, obviously would not want to be bullied, and thus in many instances, would then change if it was possible), the worst experiences imaginable in a school until pushed to suicide. And it is quite selfish to blame the gays for spreading AIDS to the USA. Please explain what makes spread
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors I don't believe that it is selfish to blame h/s for the spread of AIDS throughout this country b/c they ARE to blame. And it's not just this country, but European countries, as well. As for African countries, we don't know why the disease is so rampant on that continent, b/c they do not practice h/s to any degree near what it is practiced in Europe &in the States. In any case, denying h/s role in the spread of the disease does not stop it from happening but only furthers it.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Instead of denying their role in the spread of it (since 56% of the world's population that has AIDS/HIV practices homosexuality), we must acknowledge it and seek to change the behavior. We must determine what is the underlying cause of the practice and from that we can seek to change the behavior.
To answer your question, what makes it spread is the fact that the anus is a perfect vehicle for transmitting the virus from someone's penis to the other's bloodstream.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors I don't believe that homosexuals should be vilified or mistreated b/c they engage in this act, but it is indeed wrong. We must see it for what it truly is instead of lying about it.
According to the Bible, people become h/s because they engage in idolatry. Basically, God is EXTREMELY disapproving of idolatry, so when people do not repent of the act, God allows their minds to conjure up fantasies/desires that are against their nature. The result is homosexuality (Rom.1)
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc You use the bible as a reliable source (basically, a document written thousands of years ago without knowledge of even the number 0). I can write my own bible, say the earth was made by a flying spaghetti monster, get it printed millions of times, and it is siddenely true. And the bible itself condones slavery. Is that to be allowed?
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors If the Bible condones slavery, why does God say in 1 Timothy 1:10 that slave-traders/owners are under the law and will not inherit the kingdom of heaven?
No prophesy in the Bible has been proven false. If you disagree, please tell me what prophesy is false. What historical aspects are false? How is it unreliable? Even Rev. 13, regarding the RFID chip is coming to pass as we speak. Please tell me what is false.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc Lev 25:44 states that one may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations.
Exodus 21:7 allows one to sell one's daughter into slavery.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc (cont) to the USA more significant than spread over any other arbitrary border.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors There is no proof as it stands on how HIV/AIDS spread across the Eastern and Southern parts of the African continent. One theory is that the disease was passed by eating "bush" meat, a "commodity" of primates with SIV, the animal-version of HIV.
I reiterate, do the research on Haekel's embryo drawings and other so-called evolution "evidence" and you will see that much of that stuff was made up. Haekel was condemned by his peers for doctoring his photos.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc If you wish to denounce a logical theory such as evolution, please provide an alternative.
anthro.palomar.edu/evolve/evolve_3.htm
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Evolution is not logical. What is logical about humans descending from apes, yet apes are still around with no prospect of evolving into anything? Darwin posits that species will evolve into more advanced beings and the weaker of them will die off. If this is so, and apes evolved into humans, then why are apes (apparently presumed the weaker since they are the "ancestors") still around and consistently multiplying? Answer this. There is NOTHING logical about evolution.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors What is logical is that the earth, in all its perfection and order (ie. the sun not being too close to scorch but close enough to warm; gravity; the human body), was designed and crafted into a place suitable for humans to live. "Perhaps the reason the earth seems designed is because it was designed."
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc If the earth was designed, prove it was designed? There is no proof that even a god exists. Who made god?
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors God is not made & isn't subject to the rules of creation b/c He is the Creator and He existed before His own concept of creation.
Proof of the earth's design can be seen in EVERY aspect of creation. The earth's ability to both facilitate &sustain human life will falter if even ONE law or function was out of place. The odds of it being an accident are 1 to one hundred trilllion trillion trillion. For ex., the sun is close enough to warm but not close enough to burn.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Who made this "god," this supposed creator? How would it then have the powers to create earth? You can use your pebbles analogy for this one. What is the likelihood that it would exist just as it is?
Or you could use your analogy for pebbles again.
What is the likelihood that a green would land on top of a blue, with a red right next to it, a green behind both, and a yellow 3 cm away? That is just as likely.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors As I stated before, God is not subject to the laws of creation, physics, or nature, because He created them all.
To your second question, using your criteria that the pebbles would land as such, what is the likelihood that they would land that way 50 times in a row?
Now let me ask you a question, do you honestly believe the universe just fell into life sustaining perfection by accident? Please give me an example of when luck has ever created such 100% ideal conditions.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc prove it, i could say santa did it.
FlyinSpaghettiMnstr7 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc Luck creates ideal conditions for the one lottery winner. And anyway, as I stated in another comment, it is actuallly very likely that in all the billions of solar systems in billions of galaxies in the universe, one planet would be able to sustain life perfectly.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Try this test. Take a bowl of fruity pebbles and throw the cereal into the air. Let it land. Do you honestly believe that there is a likelihood that all the flakes will land perfectly with each color (all the reds together, all the blues)? That is virtually impossible, let alone the chance that such flakes will create into something that can sustain some life form. Too, if the world did start with happenstance and irrationality, how then are people able to rationalize?
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Or you could use an analogy with dice: You would say that if 5 dice were rolled, one at a time, and they were all "1s," then it must be done by "god." But you then say that it was just chance w/ nothing special if the first die you rolled was a 5, the next a 6, the next a 2, the next a 5, and the last a 3. But both are equally likely. Any combination, how "perfect" or "imperfect" it may seem is equally likely. That the earth was "perfect" was then lucky chance.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Here's the problem. The earth has numerous finely-tuned conditions that if even one were moved even in the slightest, life would no longer be sustainable. Look at general relativity, gravity, nuclear fusion in stars, nuclear force...if any of these were tinkered with even in the absolute slightest, life would be impossible. Universe fine-tuning is at least one part in a hundred million billion billion billion billion billion. There is no way in the world that is coincidence.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc You can then look at how the earth is one planet in a 10000000 other bodies all over the universe that we have been able to find life on. Therefore, one in 100000000 is most likely going to be suitable for life. And if the earth was designed, why did it start out as a hot ball of lava before it cooled (that process took 2 billion years?)
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors There's no proof whatsoever that the earth took 2 billion years. In fact the Big Bang Theory suggests that the earth came together in a less than a week-the same amount of time the Bible says that it took God to create the world. Also, there's no evidence that there is more than one universe. Too, even if there are millions of other universes, I still can't believe that one will have the exact measures for life. And how did we end up in that particular universe? Coincidence?
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc We would end up in that one place that life is formed because we are alive. Obviously, if we are alive, we would end up where life is possible. And in this one solar system from billions in this galazy with trillions of other galaxies, it is very likely that one place would be inhabitalbe.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors That is speculation. You are making a guess that there are more universes, but there is no proof to that.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I only said that there are other galaxies. Would you now speculate that there is a god?
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc And if this "god" exists, and it was all good, knowing, and powerful how would it make it possible for homosexuality to exist if it hated homosexuals?
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
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@shadowofthewarriors And if this "god" exists, and it was all good, knowing, and powerful how would it make it possible for homosexuality to exist if it hated homosexuals?
Very simple - God doesn't hate homosexuals
valgez1 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors God has given humans free will - to choose Him or sin. He wants to have a relationship with us. But He won't force us. Homosexuality, like all other sins are choices that people can make.
We must remember that the world was created for God by God. Humans are His creations. The creation would dare not tell the creator what ought to be, but God gave us the permissive will to do as we please. His desire is that we choose Him so that we can choose eternal life with Him.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc Why would people make the "sin" of homosexuality with the crap society gives them, as I have already asked? There are still many sane homosexuals.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors When you say that there are "sane homosexuals," my response is that the act of homosexuality is depravity. So how can a person engaging in a depraved act claim sanity if sanity requires that one NOT engage in a depraved act?
This is not meant to be harsh; I simply deal in the realm of logic, and if something doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't make sense. It's not with any ill-will that I ask these questions. But people need to think and these questions need to be asked.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc "If something doesn't make sense to me, it doesn't make sense." There have been times in the past where things that make sense don't at first. And how is the act of homosexuality depravity? It could even be kissing another of the same sex passionately. It has no negative consequence, is common among heterosexuals, and is something that people enjoy. And relationships such as marriage are not representative of sex, they show a lifelong commitment between 2 parners.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
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THEHELENOHENZO 2 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc please press control-f on the page I linked you to and enter "haekel." No matches will be found because enough evidence already exists supporting evolution.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors I will look at the page you sent me to; I can't do it now because I have something to do. But if you can, please look up some things on Haekel, and I will send you some things, too. He was a fraud. As for Darwin, his theory was NEVER substantiated as a fact. That's problematic. It remains theory.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Haekel is all you have to say against evolution but many other scientists have also worked on it. I never said anything about Haekel being right or wrong.
And I have already explained how evolution works. But natural selection is also slow and does not necessarily weed out all species. Part of why apes multiply is that people protect them in areas they live. But they arent taking the world over like people did at all.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors It is unnatural for anyone's penis to be hanging out in anyone's fecal matter. Do you wonder if you have an issue with boundaries? Where is the line drawn exactly when it becomes okay to indulge in fecal matter?
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc
The assumption that the only form of sex (although you still do not mention oral as a possiblity) available tot gays is anal is not related to marital status or homosexuality because the practice is also present in women. Please explain why any woman who has engaged in anal sex is not noticed or attacked, ever? If you are ok with your penis in feces, go ahead! It affects nobody else.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors I think the reason why women are not attacked when it comes to anal sex is because the practice is not prevalent in women. Some women engage in that; however, we all know that anal sex is extremely rampant in the homosexual community. That's something I am not willing to debate. Because homosexuals engage in this act so frequently (and it is such a horribly perverse act), lots of people have trouble wrapping their minds around the sanity of the homosexual community.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Sanity and anal sex are very different things. Disgusting things as deemed by some can be deemed as fun by others. Kind of how one person giving oral sex can have fun while another woman deems it disgusting.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Some lines are NEVER to be crossed by people who have a modicum of sanity. For example, having sex with babies may very well be considered as "fun" for some pedophiles, but doing so shows a clear lack of sanity. The same can be said about having sex with one's dead loved one. Playing in someone feces, or anal sex, may be considered as "fun" for some people, but doing so shows a clear mental disturbance.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Having sex with babies does not show a lack of sanity. Sanity s the ability to anticipate the effect of one's actions. Gays have, then, full sanity because they do not participate in any actions with any unintented or bad consequences. However, sex with a loved one leads to trauma on other living members of the family and sex with a baby is easily traumatic to the parents and harmful to the baby.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Sanity is implicated b/c another part of sanity involves one's ability to see without distortion. If one does not understand consequences, they have clearly distorted a situation. A pedophile distorts sexuality by replacing a fully grown person with a baby who cannot fulfill the sexual purposes desired. Likewise, homosexuals distort sexuality in the way of misusing body parts by replacing a woman with a male. As I stated before, plenty of harm results.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc You said harm results from homosexual behavior. You have yet to explain the link?
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Anal sex results in bursting of blood vessels, which opens the receiver/giver up for exposure to transmission &contracting HIV/AIDS. The frequent thrusting of the penis inside the anus breaks the very delicate anal sphincter, which creates problems retaining fecal matter. Too, that thrusting inside the anus punctures the intestines, which can cause the intestines to burst. This also causes anal warts. These problems would significantly decrease if anal sex isn't practiced.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc Some problems could decrease, potentially, such as anal warts. But still, if these are possible, why does it not happen in so many occurences?
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors I've done an awful lot of research on this over the past year b/c I wanted to be certain that I understood what I was speaking about. What I've learned is that, basically, HPV (anal cancer, warts) is far more common in the homosexual community than discussed and than in non-homosexual community. This virus occurs in about 35% of homosexual males. That is over 1/3 of the homosexual population, which is definitely significant! It only occurs in non-homosexuals at about 1%.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I do not see why HPV being any more prevalent in homosexual males (we arent even discussing females for some reason?) makes homosexuality wrong. Is eating cake or candy excessively a sin even though it harms no other person and only has the chance to make you fat?
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
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THEHELENOHENZO 2 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Also, rupturing of the anal sphincter is EXTREMELY common, so much so that many homosexuals have to invest in "butt-plugs." These devices prevent fecal matter from leaking out after sphincter breaks. You will find a horribly sad occurrence in homosexual males who have AIDS. Many of them end up dying in their own fecal matter b/c they've no longer the strength to walk to a nearby bathroom & they can't hold it b/c their sphincter is broken. This is truly heartbreakingly sad.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors As for penises in feces, that is truly depraved. No person with any measure of sanity could perceive that act as remotely normal. Herein lies the problem. If homosexuals want to do that, then by all means. But don't dare force/threaten/bully others into accepting it as anything beyond depravity. Don't pass laws forcing people to accept that behavior. And definitely don't blame others when horrible things,(ie., suicide, AIDS) happen as a result of living a homosexual life.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc AIDS, as I have explained to you numerous times, is not a result of a homosexual life.
Nobody forces you to accept anal sex as anything besides what you perceive it as. If homosexuals or *heterosexuals* want to do it, then by all means. Accepting gay marriage is not the same as accepting anal sex; the two are very different things.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors It is a result of homosexual lifestyle b/c homosexual lifestyle consists heavily of a behavior that is directly responsible for transmitting HIV/AIDS. As for homosexual marriage, if it is so similar to real marriage, then why is sex a supposed "non-issue" for homosexuals when for real marriage, sex consummates the marriage. Yes, sex and marriage are intertwined and cannot be separated. You're trying to argue a point that is asinine & we both know it.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc If sex and marriage were intertwined, why are those who are handicapped, paralyzed, or old allowed to marry? And why are 55-hour marriages (cough Britney Spears and Kim Kardashian) allowed? Is marriage then only sex and money? And marriage is a lifelong bond between two lovers, not a bond saying that they will have sex. That already can happen, regardless of marital status.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Let me understand something. Are you honestly suggesting that married couples do not have sex?
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Just b/c some people cannot engage in sex for physical reasons or health reasons, or b/c some people make a mockery of marriage, does not mean that marriage and sex are any less intertwined. Yes, people can have sex regardless of marital status, but God ordained sex for marriage. Actually, His very first commandment to Adam and Eve, a married couple, was to have sex. He goes on to say that sex will join the two souls together, as they will become one flesh through sex.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc If you claim that this god exists, please tell me: Why is it that I have lived my life alright without this god, and so have billions of other people who did not believe in this entity that might not exist and you claim everyone has to live their life by. Faith is not a reason for existence.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors God has shown Himself through His creation...and by the fact that we are even having this conversation. You identify as an "atheist," which means "no belief in God or a god." You identify yourself with the very thing that say doesn't exist. When else does one identify themselves with something they claim doesn't exist? If He doesn't exist, you most certainly would not identify yourself with Him, but rather, you'd identify with the thing that you claim DOES exist.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I do not claim that I don't exist. I claim that I am the result of fully rational happenstance that in this one spot, luck turned out for life. It (the processes of developing life) probably failed in many other areas in trillions of other galaxies.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors "Rational happenstance?" You've the benefit of the doubt that you simply do not know the meaning of one or both of these words. See the definitions below. What you're speaking of is absolutely impossible b/c those terms cancel each other out. It's like saying, "The heat of this ice is warmly cold." Since you obviously want to believe that there is some rationale behind your existence, why not subscribe to a line of thinking that supports that, since the one you have doesn't.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I know what both rational and happenstance mean. Rational means something could happen logically. Happenstance means something happened by chance. For instance, if I roll a fair die, happenstance could end up with three 6's in a row. However, There is nothing irrational/illogical about it.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Your life is "alright" according to you and your own standards, but have you considered how your life could be better? What of the things that you indeed are missing out on because without God, it is impossible to have these things...things such as radiance from within, a knowledge of who you are, joy, peace, logic, sound mind, truth, and love. What of these things?
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I have a sound mind, logic, love my family and friends, search the truth about things around me, and form logical conclusions based on facts presented around me.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors But how have you the capability to do so if the world was formed in absurdity, irrationality, devoid of logic and reason, and by accident?
Shouldn't everything about you be absurd, irrational, illogical, unreasonable, and accidental to follow suite with the way the world began? At what point did absurdity and irrationality suddenly produce rationality and order? Please answer this question.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc When was there absurdity, irrationality, and a void with no logic and reason that the world spposedly formed from?
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc
If you say nature must support something for it to be natural, then you say being born, with, say, an extra leg is unnatural. It is fully natural, just an abnormal genetic mutation.
Additionally let me clarify my last comment. The gene that supports homosexuality is located; what I meant is that the exact mutation is almost impossible to locate because of the lack of homosexual offspring that allow themselves to be tested.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Something that is abnormal is NOT natural; that's an oxymoron. Perhaps, all things that are abnormal don't requiring "fixing" b/c they don't impact daily living in a significant way, but the abnormality of it negates it being natural.
There is NO gene for homosexuality. After exhausting virtually all of their resources on research, APA (who held a 30 year search for a gene) stated in '08 that no such gene exists, hence the reason you're unable to name the gene, specifically.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Finally, through the lens of sanity:
There is no sane person that would "become" a homosexual as society mistreats them so much that nobody would want to become a homosexual.
And no sane homosexual that could change, another theory opponents of gay marriage support, because any sane homosexual would do so in order to avoid the problems faces in society by gays.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors You are making the assumption that the decision to engage in homosexuality requires sanity. Think on this: a male is seeking to derive sexual pleasure by inserting his penis (not into a vagina, which is the center of female sexual reproductive system) but rather into another male's bacteria/parasite-laden, foul-smelling fecal eliminator.(and while some heteros do this, this is primary/only way for h/s to have sex). Does that sound like the actions of a sane person to you?
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Many sane males insert their reproductive organs into the rear ends of females. It happens, also very frequently. Anal sex is not only present in homosexuals.
And oral sex is fully unnatural by your logic, it exists merely for pleasure but does not help advance any sort of natural happening such as birth. Should we outlaw oral sex?
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Anal sex is the ONLY way of sex for homosexuals. It is heavily practiced in this group, far more than in heteros b/c there are plenty of women who have respect for themselves; I will not dispute something that you and I both know is true. The bottom line is the practice is absolutely REVOLTING!
Regarding oral sex, you don't defecate and have diarrhea out of your mouth. My issue is the nature of the act of anal sex. You are literally involving yourself with human feces.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc So basically, now you switch from the "unnatural" card to the "disgusting" card once I point out that the "unnatural" behaviour is also present in opposite-sex couples? And how is a woman going to stick her penis in another lesbian's anus? please explain.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors No I have not switched. It is BOTH unnatural and disgusting. As for lesbians, the practice of fisting is still unnatural. The reproductive systems of men and women serve a purpose. They're not obsolete or unimportant organs. The male penis is fit for woman's vagina. This basic element of humanity can't be ignored. Modifying/taking away/replacing body parts is unnatural. Some unnatural things, however, get into the realm of outright disgusting. Anal sex is both.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Why do you take sexual practices done by both straight and gay couples, label gay couples as doing them constantly, then ignore the fact that they are practiced also by straight couples? There are many, many straight men and women who practice fisting and anal sex but you do not condemn them at all. And oral sex is unnatural, and sperm is not meant to be swallowed and is disgusting, but you do not condemn straight couples who practice it.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors You are ignoring my point. Straight couples do NOT practice this behavior anywhere near the rate that homosexuals do, and that is why homosexuality and anal sex are mentioned in the same vein. It is notorious in the homosexual community, and you are attempting to gloss over that obvious fact. I conceded that oral sex was unnatural. However, there are FAR most devastating consequences associated with anal sex than there are with oral sex. Stop ignoring the obvious.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc When you state that there are devastating consequences for anal sex, please tell me what they are? If you claim the presence of a higher power that we must work to please, then you take the burden of proof to show me why I should live my life as that "higher power" describes.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Sure...HIV/AIDS (anal sex is still the number one way to transmit and contract the disease); anal cancer (HPV); anal warts; broken anal sphincter (the piece of tissue that opens and closes for elimination); intestinal perforation (anal sex is the second most common reason for this to occur after supreme constipation); intestinal parasites; and parasites in the mouth. These are a few of the consequences that result from engaging in anal sex. It is EXTREMELY dangerous.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc HIV/AIDS is spread through any unprotected blood transfusion or sexual act that has no precautions used. Therefore, it can spread by way of blood through anyone, through a vagina, or any other body part. Even a finger by means of blood transfusion.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Point well taken, but the primary way of spreading the disease is through male to male sex b/c of the wide passageway of the anus, as well as the broken blood vessels. Look at what the CDC or WebMD have to say about anal sex.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Describing why people should live as God desires would require a belief that He is. Then, you could understand that you were created with a purpose and that you are not an accident. Then, you could understand Who He is. Then, you could understand the nature of having a personal relationship with Him. Then, you could understand why you should live as He desires. All of this must occur before you could begin to understand the importance of living as God desires.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I was created a person because two toher people had sex and logical reproductive processes occured.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors God allowed that to occur. Please answer this question, since I have yet to hear the answer from any atheist.
If the world occurred through absurdity and irrationality, how then, are humans, the product of an irrational world, capable of rationalizing anything. Where did the capability to rationalize and reason come from if the earth began with no rationale or reason?
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
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@shadowofthewarriors God allowed that to occur. Please answer this question, since I have yet to hear the answer from any atheist.
If the world occurred through absurdity and irrationality, how then, are humans, the product of an irrational world, capable of rationalizing anything. Where did the capability to rationalize and reason come from if the earth began with no rationale or reason?
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Also, I believe it is so important that you know that God doesn't have a bunch of rules that you must live by in order to go to heaven. Basically, He requires two things: (1) that we love Him above everything and with our whole self; (2) that we love others (not their actions but them as God's creations). Once we repent of our sins and accept Jesus Christ as Lord through our belief and confessions, we receive the Holy Spirit. Then transformation from within takes place.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc If I were to look at this logically, I could then say Jesus was just a person. And now you say that heaven exists and god exists and that we must live by this? Have you somehow found a way to communicate with higher deities and the dead? I was taught as you were taught. But I and many others around me questioned those "facts." And we could find no logical explanation showing this god as an entity while people kill each other all over earth.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors How are you capable of looking at anything with logic if the earth is the result if illogical irrational happenstance?
Well, can't the same thing be said about homosexuality? Can't a straight person say that there is no God b/c people engage in depraved acts such as murder and homosexuality (which tend to mentioned together in the Bible)?
People who have a personal relationship with God indeed talk to God and He talks to them.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc Happenstance is fully rational. As I said, if i roll 5 dice together, and eventually one roll ends up as five "1s," then this is happenstance. But it isn't illogical. And homosexuality is the state of attraction towards a member of the same sex, not the act of having sex with one.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors Rationality:A set of reasons or a logical basis for a course of action or a particular belief
Happenstance: coincidence; accident
To say that happenstance is rational is an oxymoron b/c there is no reason in happenstance. Something is rational when logic is provided for an action. Thus, someone must provide the logic. If there is no designer to provide the logic behind the act of creating the world, then the world happened by accident...void of rationale/logic/or reason.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc rational (from the dictionary) means reasonable, within the bounds of reason, not without reason. The reason I could roll five one's in a row is that I happened to roll them in the correct fashion.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors (cont) Too, your example is devoid of reason or rationale. You try it. What is the logic behind rolling five 1's? If there was no plan to roll five 1's, and that occurred by happenstance, then you have no logic by which you can use to explain why the dice rolled on five 1's, since it was never intended in the first place. Thus, without logic to explain why you rolled five 1's, you have no rationale b/c rationale is composed of logic. So, happenstance is fully irrational.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@drolsitsirhc I could say I rolled five 1's because I happened to roll them in a way that physics would dictate that the die would end up with a one five times in a row. Nothing about that is illogical. However, it still did not need intention to occur.
shadowofthewarriors 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors (con't) The transformation is done by the Holy Spirit and it is one of the most AMAZING things you will ever see. People's entire countenance is different. After inward transformation occurs, your heart is drawn closer to God. It is so beyond anything you'll ever experience apart from God. He now guides you, and transforms you into the person He desires. He opens your eyes to the spirit realm and to truth. You love in a way never before. You see in a way never before.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors (con't) His truth becomes THE truth to you and you now have purpose. Living apart from God means that you believe you are an accident and without purpose, but God reveals His intent for you. This in no way means that life will be perfect and without trials. Quite the opposite is true. But now you can endure those trials, and you will come to find that enduring the trials with God right there with you is far greater than having never experienced the trials &His faithfulness.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors (con't) Ultimately, once you have been transformed by the power of the Holy Spirit, you will WANT to live as God created you to. It won't be a task or a chore, but your heart will line up with God's Will. Living inside of His will will cause you to see sin differently. As for homosexuality, you will see it for what it truly is - a lie created by the enemy to destroy your life and keep you eternally separated from God. That's the enemy's goal -to keep you blind & to kill you.
drolsitsirhc 3 weeks ago
@shadowofthewarriors To your point, there are plenty of groups who engage in socially-maligned practices -pedosexuals, zoosexuals, incestuous couples, necrosexuals, homosexuals. All of these practices are unnatural within the realm of humanity. So, a pedosexual can very well ask "Why would I choose this life, only to be shunned?"
Too, they don't seem too interested in avoiding problems when they prance around naked at "gay pride" marches, or tell others of their sex practices to get attention.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc
About this comment: marriage requires consent by both parties. Therefore, it highly unlikely that an animal or dead person can sign a marriage agreement. And I have never seen a nude gay pride march.
And many times, people who are too young lack the capacity to fully understand marriage.
However, if two adults are legal age, one is 25, and one is 85, if they wish to marry, that's on them.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Ever heard of Southern Decadence?
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Southern decadence is similar to a nudist beach; it is fully legal and recognized and is not meant as a gay-rights rally. If Souther decadence is to be attacked, attack nudist beaches.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@shadowofthewarriors Southern decadence is extremely perverse celebration of homosexuality.
drolsitsirhc 1 month ago
@drolsitsirhc Straight marriage is not the most sanctified thing ever, as you know. After all, it is still legal for death-row inmates to marry.
shadowofthewarriors 1 month ago
@mattetho
Homosexuality is same as heterosexuality n HOMOSEXUALITY IS NOT A SIN, at least not in Christianity.
You can put your pussy back inside your ass and Shut the fuck up!
On the other hand if u have any proof that homosexuality is wrong, lets hear it, Based on facts!
If u have the balls!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
We shouldn't discriminate anyone but we should single them out by taking away their rights?. Poor gays
digs0795 1 month ago
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TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
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from a biblical point of view homosexuality is a sin, it states that clear in the bible. just like lying is a sin and just like murder is a sin, I don't know why people tip toe around this issue.
iTitanium 1 month ago
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iTitanium 1 month ago
I agree with him, I mean Its only gay marriage that causes abortion, wars, earthquakes, etc.
What 2 men or 2 women do in the bedroom in private has a great affect on the planet! I mean we have to PROTECT THE SANCTITY OF BRITNEY SPEARS 55 HOUR WEDDING and legalizing gay marriage would ruin the sanctity of this marriage!
And since gay marriage has existed in ancient Greece, Rome (until the rise of Christianity), India and China for a long long time, It caused many losses
Get YOU FACTS RIGHT BITCH!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac I'm amazed you didn't mention Kim Kardashians wedding in you're beautiful comment.
iTitanium 1 month ago
@iTitanium at least that lasted for more than 55 hours!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac ?
iTitanium 1 month ago
@iTitanium I meant their wedding lasted for more than 55 hours! Their wedding was a dedicated symbol of true long life love too. (LOL) but Britney spears had a much shorter 1,
subhankarzac 1 month ago
Homosexuality is a sin, but that doesn't give us any reason to discriminate against them. We're all sinners. God hates the sin... but, not the person.
TheGoldenAngel150 1 month ago
@TheGoldenAngel150
If homosexuality is a sin, so is heterosexuality, bisexuality, asexuality, etc. and since humans are God now a days that they have the power to twist the scriptures to make them on in their own version, I think so, even driving a car, flying a plane, etc are sin 2 right?
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac um, no you're really mixed up.
TheGoldenAngel150 1 month ago
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subhankarzac 1 month ago
@TheGoldenAngel150
Why m I mixed up? U have no proof to prove that homosexuality is a sin, still ur hateful mind is claiming that its wrong! I m doing the same!
so?
Clear your facts please before you proceed any further!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
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Homosexuality is wrong.
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lightandbeautiful 1 month ago
Daniel 4:17 God sets up over the kingdoms of men, "the basest of men".
Ephesians 6:12 We wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against... "spiritual wickedness in high places".
The Bible is clear on homosexuality. Now it is true that this disease can be transmitted genetically; but the simple fact is is that Christ can FREE PEOPLE from this filth and clean them up and give them hope!
I am a living testimony to that fact. There are more people out there with similar stories. God bless
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD
Hey pussy fucking maggot!
Do u realize that false prophets are to be put to death! well, I would really would like to stab you a million times and obey the word of god!
There has no proof that homosexuals can change so, u better stop converting people from gay to straight coz Your mother wont get laid either way!
Rot in hell, Bitch!!!!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac
Excuse me, dear sir. Your words are most unkind and they do not reflect a Christ-like spirit of love. Jesus warns us that we'll be judged by our words (Matt 12:36-37).
Now, sodomy is condemned as sin by God. That is the principle reason why Sodom and Gomorrah was destroyed. Just think of it! Out of TWO WHOLE CITIES only FOUR willed to follow God. The rest rejected the solemn messages sent from Heaven in love.
I had homosexual desires and I changed, so there. God bless you.
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Dear Mother fucking pussy, if u were so ugly minded, I would have treated u with less filth! sodomy is a sin? But whats the sin of Sodom???
The sins odf Sodom are not given properly in the scriptures and the ATTEMPTED GANG RAPE of ANGELS (not men) cannot be the reason of the destruction of sodom since god already decided to burn the cities BEFORE this took place! so, as usual, FUCK U and read the bible b4 u show your ugly face here!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD I m so sorry bitch that u dont feel that my words do not reflect the christ-like spirit of love!!
and I m so shocked to hear that condemning 2 men who love each other with pure heart and soul is a curse by God! and Love between 2 men (no matter how pure is a disease), So, put your pussy inside your mouth and go back to 1BC n join the pharisees to Kill Jesus! since u know only do tern love as Disease and filth, as u want only boobs for your ugly fucking mouth!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD
U didnt have homosexual desires! U had desires to condemn people who are not closeted like you! because you are a shameful little maggot who would rather spend his life sucking vaginas n biting boobs rather than to face the reality!
I m gay n I din choose to be gay! n contrary to u I have the power to tell the world the truth! n since Jesus blessed a same sex union, He had 2 DADS n he never condemned homosexuality, so I m Good with my God, unlike a self-hating maggot like u.
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac
And by the way, I don't believe in sex before marriage either. And I'm not married.
False prophets are to be put to death, yes. In Revelation 16:13 and 20:10 the false prophet are those modern Christian churches which claim mto know and do the will of God; yet walk not with God.
By the way, "hell" simply means "the grave". The wages of sin is death, not life in fire. It says in Mal. 4:3 that the wicked will one day become ASHES. So much for the ever-burning hell theory.
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD
Do u believe in Wearing clothes of same fibre? if you do then FUCK YOU, since the hebrew word to translate the Leviticus 18:22 n 20:13 as ABOMINATION is "TOEVAH" which means something which is unclean in idol worship! not sinful!
So u can check with the scriptures or Die!!!! n then come with more of your filthy diseased fucking pussy to bash others!!!!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac
My friend, come to the Kingdom of God.
Whenever pride and ambition are indulged, the life is marred, for pride, feeling no need, closes the heart against the infinite blessings of Heaven. He who makes self-glorification his aim will find himself destitute of the grace of God, through whose efficiency the truest riches and the most satisfying joys are won.
TreasuresOfTheLORD 1 month ago
@TreasuresOfTheLORD Put your pussy inside your mouth and talk about only your crap of homosexuality, if u have the balls! a 17 year old is challenging u!
C'mon bitch!!!!!!
subhankarzac 1 month ago
@subhankarzac
I'm 20 years old, and I'm wise enough to say that I'm not going to participate in this nonsense.
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