@sthompson1000 Maybe but... have you ever pulled a chain that worked bellows? Hes putting his weight into each pull and even though he looks like hes showing off, hes really doing his job correctly and efficiently. *shrug*
@obeyance I know what he's doing, it's not bellows, its a block and tackle. I'm only implying that his exaggerated movements suggest a certain self-consciousness.
@sthompson1000 If you're speaking of the guy working the chain, I disagree. He uses his body weight to reduce arm / lat strain to lift it (you use what you can to your advantage when laboring all day), and when lowering it he's obviously not exaggerating, and expert at it - witness how he catches the chain to stop it without looking for it. I guess many will never know as most of this country is too civilized to ever experience hard labor.
Version 1 was a very small and highly stupidly designed idea, but after 1 alteran stole the idea and decided to begin making a larger version the stargate began being mass produced for all your vacation needs.
lol.....very true!! but you forgot a few....gay/lesbian, transgender, "he/she", and a few others i can't remember now. i'm sure the eeoc has a few regulations concerning that.
LOL well I thought it was funny. What a shame so many people on YouTube have no sense of humour. I can't believe they actually gave you a thumbs down for it. You lot need to lighten up.
I once handed a sledge I was holding in my right hand to a friend and he promptly dropped it on his foot. It was a 20# sledge, and I guess he wasn't used to it.
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In terms of scientific views nowadays, not mentioning safety aspects of any sort, the way the weld that's forged in video was pretty weak... residual stresses' like so rampant on the welds lol! Now its more of fusing the weld with that sparkling thingy.
I believe good modern steel forge-welds are about 70% as strong as plain steel (data from a blacksmith). This must've been wrought iron, not steel, which should weld a lot better, or at least, more easily.
I'm not quite sure about all this, so feel free to add :)
You have no idea what you are talking about. A forge weld is as good as if not better than any welding process. It is just too much work to be profitable in industry these days.
@spark300c on the contrary, there are melting involved which is happening in the video in the 1st minute with the ring heated on the fire, and hence residual stresses are imminent, including which from workers hitting the weld site; ie compression force to surface inwards to centre of the weld site, not speaking how they scrap off any flush from deformation of the surface, reducing volume density of the metal present at weld spot.
Remarkable video showing what's going on in that era though.
Wow, that is truly amazing. I met a guy once who told me he grew up during the Depression though he didn't look that old. Worked at Boeing and he was SMART. Seems like a lot of skills are getting lost...
BTW I was thinking of applying for an apprenticeship program with the Boilermakers to learn some of these skills. If anyone knows about this feel free to shoot me an email. Thanks!
I've been a welder for 30 years, so I can associate with what these guys are doing. But the lack of safety equipment makes me shudder. Lose an eye or hand, and it was just "too bad".
yeah, times were harder then, if you didn't work, you didn't eat, therfore, most everyone worked, and they worked hard too! I too wish I was around in those times
I take great pride in working hard and taking pride and care in my work. At the end of the day I don't have to ask what I accomplished, or what this life is for, I already know
I wonder Why do we have to be miserable to feel alive ? Why do we have to do something hard and intense to justify our self esteem ?
Putting high expectations, is because we ask irrational glory to cover and promote our own ego and beliefs... I've noticed that getting along and collaborating with other people, no matter the situations, is the most giving and rewarding. Too bad we continuously need to have an external menace to do that, overlooking the real menace that hides in our fears.
my statement has absolutely nothing to do with feeling miserable. as for the rest of your statement well, never mind, I can tell now we see life in a completely different sense. To each his own, and I will say that you read way way deeper into my comment than it went, or othor words you put words in my mouth and totally over thought that statement
I'm suprised there wasn't more spray of the flux. Quite the impressive task. I've never seen a video of someone standing on the piece they're forge-welding as they're forge-welding it. Very very impressive.
If they were working wrought-iron, then there would have been little need for much flux. The high silica content, which makes wrought such a pita to punch or slit without splitting, also makes it basically self-fluxing.
Ah, and so that's what made wrought iron what it was. I know that nowadays the closest one can get to wrought iron is low-carbon steel. Thanks for the info.
Actually, at the end of the video, i noticed a gent wearing gloves while the ring was being guided back over the forge. look on the left, and you'll see him Im sure others were wearing gloves when appropriate, they were "hard" back then, but not stupid,lol.
This video is the definition of "honest, hard work"... I totally agree with faaddd.
I had the opportunity of seeing a similar video, with the forgewelding of a HUGE anchor. That was simply breathtaking, with around 10 strikers all working at the same time. That's true teamwork.
This video is the very MEANING of "honest, hard work".
I saw one of the forging of an anchor, which I haven't found online. That one was also amazing, and even had more strikers than this one. They must've been almost 10, if I remember correctly.
No kidding...I saw this and said..."Oh My God...what are they forging"...originally I thought the whole thing was one big awkward hearth. I AM truly humbled...I wish I was around in those days. My craft was far more important and awesome then. Wow...Great Upload.
these guys were huge!
blacksmither1 11 months ago
iron muscle!
herberticuz 1 year ago
real men! doing real honest hard work. I bet most of us coul not swing those big hammers more than a dozen times before we collapsed!
prokopto 1 year ago
The bloke pulling the chain at about 1min certainly knew he was being filmed!
sthompson1000 2 years ago
@sthompson1000 Maybe but... have you ever pulled a chain that worked bellows? Hes putting his weight into each pull and even though he looks like hes showing off, hes really doing his job correctly and efficiently. *shrug*
obeyance 1 year ago
@obeyance that is incorrect he's working the chain falls it's a chain powered winch that lifts the larger chain
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
@obeyance I know what he's doing, it's not bellows, its a block and tackle. I'm only implying that his exaggerated movements suggest a certain self-consciousness.
sthompson1000 1 year ago
@sthompson1000 Your right. Its a chain fall.
obeyance 1 year ago
@sthompson1000 If you're speaking of the guy working the chain, I disagree. He uses his body weight to reduce arm / lat strain to lift it (you use what you can to your advantage when laboring all day), and when lowering it he's obviously not exaggerating, and expert at it - witness how he catches the chain to stop it without looking for it. I guess many will never know as most of this country is too civilized to ever experience hard labor.
Spearfisher1970 1 month ago
@sthompson1000 he's working the chain falls. that's how he lifts it.
modernblacksmith 1 year ago
wow. any miss with the hammer obliterates the man next to you. i guess you didn't miss.
dorisdrew 2 years ago
Wow, they sure make modern men look like pussies.
calmackie 2 years ago 19
Yes, but modern men don't die at the age of 50
Haumiblau01 2 years ago 4
Good point.
calmackie 2 years ago
@Haumiblau01 but they die as pussies
joltzkrieg 2 years ago
@calmackie
Maybe if work was still done this way there would be no women in the work force.
bigDbigDbigD 1 year ago
@bigDbigDbigD
That would be shit. I love working with waitresses and I love sleeping with them even more. I need to work with women
calmackie 1 year ago
The ancients making the first stargate? ;)
kaxitaksi 2 years ago 3
Version 1 was a very small and highly stupidly designed idea, but after 1 alteran stole the idea and decided to begin making a larger version the stargate began being mass produced for all your vacation needs.
dndfan54 2 years ago
i think the health and safety dude will go ape shit if he/she (lets not be sexist) watch this vid
GOD2k9 2 years ago
lol.....very true!! but you forgot a few....gay/lesbian, transgender, "he/she", and a few others i can't remember now. i'm sure the eeoc has a few regulations concerning that.
sw8741 2 years ago
TWAT IT...HIT IT...TWAT IT...HIT IT...TWAT IT...HIT IT...SCRATCH IT..BALANCE IT... MOVE IT...GRAB IT.....TSTSTSTS !Ahhhhrrrrg!..YOU CLUMSY FUCKTARD !
povethestud 2 years ago 3
Awesome comment!
Wiegieboard 2 years ago
END OF PART 1....OK guys now lets get that lil fucking back wheel out the way and thats my sons xmas present sorted...lol
povethestud 3 years ago
LOL well I thought it was funny. What a shame so many people on YouTube have no sense of humour. I can't believe they actually gave you a thumbs down for it. You lot need to lighten up.
FaerieCrone 2 years ago
LOVE YA !...Faerie... xxxxxxxxxxx
hope ya like it !
povethestud 2 years ago
The work that went into those Penny Farthings was incredible...lmao
povethestud 3 years ago
That humbles me.... wow!
Guardtheheart 3 years ago
This is a great video, the quality is excellent.
Now this is hard yakka, swing a sledge will keep you fit. Great Post Thanks.
GenericGene 3 years ago
what sort of ring are they gonna make?
galantride 3 years ago
What great teamwork!
I once handed a sledge I was holding in my right hand to a friend and he promptly dropped it on his foot. It was a 20# sledge, and I guess he wasn't used to it.
Bullettube 3 years ago
Hammering upwards!!!!
mayhem001boats 3 years ago
It was fathers, grandfathers and uncles who did this and damn proud of it, so we as kids, grandkids could have a better life.
stone
stone37659 3 years ago
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In terms of scientific views nowadays, not mentioning safety aspects of any sort, the way the weld that's forged in video was pretty weak... residual stresses' like so rampant on the welds lol! Now its more of fusing the weld with that sparkling thingy.
ppallk 3 years ago
Well, it was strong enough to fuel the industrial revolution!
rchaos00001 3 years ago 9
much agreement with u too :)
ppallk 3 years ago
Hi! Are you sure it would be that weak?
I believe good modern steel forge-welds are about 70% as strong as plain steel (data from a blacksmith). This must've been wrought iron, not steel, which should weld a lot better, or at least, more easily.
I'm not quite sure about all this, so feel free to add :)
Anvilfolk 3 years ago
You have no idea what you are talking about. A forge weld is as good as if not better than any welding process. It is just too much work to be profitable in industry these days.
southshoersmith 2 years ago
@ppallk there is no melting involved in forging there fore there are less residual stresses.
spark300c 1 year ago
@spark300c on the contrary, there are melting involved which is happening in the video in the 1st minute with the ring heated on the fire, and hence residual stresses are imminent, including which from workers hitting the weld site; ie compression force to surface inwards to centre of the weld site, not speaking how they scrap off any flush from deformation of the surface, reducing volume density of the metal present at weld spot.
Remarkable video showing what's going on in that era though.
ppallk 1 year ago
if did that today they would heat with oxyflames and then put it in big press and be done in less time it took in 1904
spark300c 1 year ago
Wow, that is truly amazing. I met a guy once who told me he grew up during the Depression though he didn't look that old. Worked at Boeing and he was SMART. Seems like a lot of skills are getting lost...
BTW I was thinking of applying for an apprenticeship program with the Boilermakers to learn some of these skills. If anyone knows about this feel free to shoot me an email. Thanks!
sangredelic 4 years ago
I've been a welder for 30 years, so I can associate with what these guys are doing. But the lack of safety equipment makes me shudder. Lose an eye or hand, and it was just "too bad".
Lockbar 4 years ago 2
yeah, times were harder then, if you didn't work, you didn't eat, therfore, most everyone worked, and they worked hard too! I too wish I was around in those times
Fentanyl3 4 years ago 3
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ur crazy...
who likes working hard
justinkeeler 4 years ago
I take great pride in working hard and taking pride and care in my work. At the end of the day I don't have to ask what I accomplished, or what this life is for, I already know
Fentanyl3 4 years ago 11
well said mate
THEFAT209 4 years ago
I wonder Why do we have to be miserable to feel alive ? Why do we have to do something hard and intense to justify our self esteem ?
Putting high expectations, is because we ask irrational glory to cover and promote our own ego and beliefs... I've noticed that getting along and collaborating with other people, no matter the situations, is the most giving and rewarding. Too bad we continuously need to have an external menace to do that, overlooking the real menace that hides in our fears.
carina81gr 4 years ago
my statement has absolutely nothing to do with feeling miserable. as for the rest of your statement well, never mind, I can tell now we see life in a completely different sense. To each his own, and I will say that you read way way deeper into my comment than it went, or othor words you put words in my mouth and totally over thought that statement
Fentanyl3 4 years ago 3
@Fentanyl3 So true! its the same with me:)
svartsot 7 months ago
thees men work as one, fasinating!
svartsot 7 months ago
I'm suprised there wasn't more spray of the flux. Quite the impressive task. I've never seen a video of someone standing on the piece they're forge-welding as they're forge-welding it. Very very impressive.
NoDetrel 5 years ago
If they were working wrought-iron, then there would have been little need for much flux. The high silica content, which makes wrought such a pita to punch or slit without splitting, also makes it basically self-fluxing.
althesmith 3 years ago
Ah, and so that's what made wrought iron what it was. I know that nowadays the closest one can get to wrought iron is low-carbon steel. Thanks for the info.
NoDetrel 3 years ago
No gauntlet gloves or masks...nothing. Amazing video. Art in it's finest!
bbqufc 5 years ago
Actually, at the end of the video, i noticed a gent wearing gloves while the ring was being guided back over the forge. look on the left, and you'll see him Im sure others were wearing gloves when appropriate, they were "hard" back then, but not stupid,lol.
jrichardson6769 2 years ago
Wow. No gauntlet gloves or masks...nothing. Amzing video. Thanks for posting this.
Art in it's finest.
bbqufc 5 years ago
Man... The coordination something like forge welding a huge piece like that would take! Simply amazing, and wholly impressive.
GranoblasticMan 5 years ago
This video is the definition of "honest, hard work"... I totally agree with faaddd.
I had the opportunity of seeing a similar video, with the forgewelding of a HUGE anchor. That was simply breathtaking, with around 10 strikers all working at the same time. That's true teamwork.
Anvilfolk 5 years ago
Agreed... an amazing, amazing video.
This video is the very MEANING of "honest, hard work".
I saw one of the forging of an anchor, which I haven't found online. That one was also amazing, and even had more strikers than this one. They must've been almost 10, if I remember correctly.
Anvilfolk 5 years ago
I've seen that one here on youtube!
budgie98 5 years ago
I've found it again; try "hand forging chains"
budgie98 5 years ago
Really impressive!
arnebarnet 5 years ago
Makes every modern blacksmith humble
faaddd 5 years ago
No kidding...I saw this and said..."Oh My God...what are they forging"...originally I thought the whole thing was one big awkward hearth. I AM truly humbled...I wish I was around in those days. My craft was far more important and awesome then. Wow...Great Upload.
hitmanchild 5 years ago
This is great footage. This could also prove that HASAW Act 1974 (UK) was 100 years late!!
DJwelda 5 years ago