The funniest thing about totovader is his avatar haha :D As he himself states, lack of evidence is not evidence xD guess he got evidence there is no Death Ray :P And no i dont believe there is a death ray, but i dont mind people believing it :)
Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
These are the real that should be thrown out like "Death Ray from outter space!"
Give me a fucking break, someone like me who is intuitively knowledgeable about technology knows that the idea and technology is well beyond our capabilities at least for the next 40-80 years.
dude your a douche. DOn't you know who Nikola Tesla is?!? you wouldn't even live the way you live without the inventor of AC and radio. What about flipped over cars at wtc similar to the renowned experimentor John J. Hutchinson. His so called Hutchison effect leaves all possibilities open. You are the type of brother gonna keep us down. close minded douche
You're babbling- you don't even know what you're talking about. The "Hutchison Effect" was debunked- and John Hutchison admitted to faking videos which he claimed showed his research.
Flipped over cars? Did you watch the video, here? The flipped over cars come from an unusual scientific phenomena known as a "clean up using a forklift". Moron.
"Not that thermite makes any sense anyway: it's never been used- and can't be used- in a CD"
What these Truthers do not seem to grasp is that TIMING -- very precise timing -- is critical to a CD. Thermite cannot be timed, even if it could somehow be made to reliably cut a vertical column (which it can't).
For those who haven't used a thermite grenade and don't realize how imprecise & sloppy it is, watch any Youtube examples of thermite in action -- you'll see why the demo people laugh at it.
Really? Well I have a construction worker in the family that has been using thermite for a number of years and states that the timing can be accurate, the way it can be controlled is very precise and can be even remotely detonated. So who is lying here? Some faceless youtube user with no facts to back up his claim, or a member of my own family who has a JOB in the field.
"Jones has used sophisticated scientific methods to prove a point and has done it very well ...the methods are SEM .. and X-EDS ..."
Using scientific techniques on crap data yields ... crap.
When astrologers started cranking their spooky woo into computers and giving (actually, SELLING) scientific-looking printouts to their suckers, it only fooled the fools.
Let's see who's the tool- see if you can stop babbling for 5 minutes and answer my Challenge. If you don't like the DRFOS claims (despite the fact that its a popular claim among "the Scholars") then perhaps you can show everyone what the RIGHT claim is- see my Challenge video and stop wasting both our time.
You already said that. What I'm asking for is if you actually understand the method- if you can defend this claim at ALL, or if you're just repeating what you're told to repeat. "Trusting his judgement" is a pretty stupid thing to say when it's supposed to be "irrefutable scientific smoking gun evidence". You just shot yourself in the foot.
That makes a lot of sense. Clearly all you're capable of is tossing out stupid personal attacks because you can't even defend your own position. Do you even realize how stupid your claim is?
This proves to me that you're just repeating what you're told to repeat. You can name the technology Jones used, and you can call it "sophisticated scientific methods" (which is a joke)- but you can't even begin to understand what his claim is, why it makes no sense at all, and why he's dead wrong. You're just parroting buzz words like any good zealot should- but you can't defend your position at all. You don't even understand it.
And not a SINGLE ONE of his papers has ever been through the peer-review process. In fact, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS FIRED FOR. The fact that he used "actual data" to arrive at an absurd and invalid conclusion does not mean that he used the scientific method or that his conclusion was correct. He used partial data which is not only inadmissable from a scientific standpoint- but completely irrelevant to boot. Sulphur means NOTHING.
For someone who is smart enough to recognize the stupidity of someone like Judy Wood, you sure like to take anything Steven Jones says- who is just as stupid if not more- and not even question it. I've actually researched this stuff. I've actually looked into it. All you can do is pretend that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron and Steven Jones is a God. Turns out- you're the shill.
Already saw that. Do you know WHERE he got the "dust samples" from? Do you know WHAT he found in them, what he DIDN'T find in them, and why it makes no difference whatsoever?
And the experts in the field that actually USE THAT TECHNOLOGY state that he has completely misunderstood it and misrepresented his findings. Not that thermite makes any sense anyway: it's never been used- and can't be used- in a CD. It's a "burning" agent, not a high explosive. Furthermore it "burns" down, not laterally- so it can't be used in CD. Any CD expert can confirm this for you. The idea is just stupid- it makes no sense at all.
I have actually looked at Steven Jones' findings. Do you understand them? He found sulphur. He found iron sphereules. Do you understand why he thinks that is important, and why it actually isn't? It takes 2 minutes of research to debunk his claims. First, sulphur is not at all unusual- and he didn't find ANY of the KEY ingredients in thermite like barium nitrate, which would have been in MUCH HIGHER quantities than the sulfur.
He's just as crazy and stupid as the rest of them. I'm not sure how you can admit that Judy Wood is a moron in one sentence and then turn around and claim that Steven Jones is a hero in the next... they're the same nutcase, just with different nutcase ideas. Your No True Scotsman fallacy aside- how can you not recognize that they BOTH make the SAME mistakes?
This much has been debunked. Judy Woo-Woo has no clue what a vehicle is supposed to look like after a noraml fire.
We just whatched a video showing a perfectly normal burned-out vehicle. There is nothing the least bit odd about it to anyone with a clue about fire fighting.
But then, how much experience have any of the twoofers of fire fighting?
Don't be discouraged. These conspiracy theories will go into the ash heap of history. And while they are left in the forgotten, future generation will be learning about what really happened: Jihadists destroyed those towers, and if we don't stop them they'll destroy every thing else too.
Yes exept the real evidence and facts about 9/11 are not conspiracy theorist, but people name them as that to make them look like the nutters who believe things like this!
Conspiracy and conspiracy theory are two completely different things. If you believe in conspiracy theories, then you believe in nuttiness.
Trying to escape that by claiming that the "governments story" is a conspiracy theory doesn't help your case. You're only saying that you're trading one conspiracy theory for another.
You are making these videos to make light of a very serious situation. By branding anyone who believes other than the governments story as ''nutters'' .
The serious situation is 300 dead innocent people, not the stupid conspiracy theory you address in this video. You are laughing at 3000 innocent dead people, and making light of it.
I'm not laughing at the death of close to 3000 people- I'm debunking the claims by people who mock their deaths with stupid conspiracy theories for political gain.
You will not find a SINGLE example of me laughing at the deaths of these people. So not only are you a nutter- but a liar.
No, you're a nutter for the same reason that the DRFOS people are nutters: you believe something in lack of any evidence- and despite all the evidence to the contrary. You believe these things because you WANT to, not because there's any scientific basis for your conclusion.
You lied about saying that I am laughing at the deaths of these victims. It's a pathetic attempt at an appeal to emotion. You're desperate.
Well for one, there are plenty of facts to the contrary and for two there is plenty of scientific evidence. But i will leave it there. Because you obviously don't know much about this at all.
See my other videos- not sure how you could come to the conclusion that I don't know much at all if you haven't even bothered to notice that I have more than 1 video.
Dude...you are faced with so much evidence that contradicts the official version of events...you're just to fucking stupid to see it . you're the fucking fruitcake conspiracy theorist !!
toto keep it up i have watched your videos and bsregistration's videos and it is way easier to make up conspiracies than to debunk them. so keep up the great work.
Yeah, either that or you kill yourself. Cuz i mean no one wants to see your ugly ass mug on their computer screen, so pull the trigger buddy and the world will finally accept you.
Alright ill let it go even tho you were a asshole. I mean the frustration and crap is understandable. I mean who wouldn't be cranky if they were 30 years old living in their moms basement making debunking videos on shit that is totally fuckin stupid and no one would believe in the first place as you sit there and rub your life sized cat women doll as you have sex with two slices of wonder bread. So its all good bro.
Like i dont understand why your being a ass about it when we are simply agreeing with what you said not argueing anything you said. Also we are sayin its a good thing that some people actually go and look into things instead of accepting them with no questions asked like this whole death laser.
Nah what hes trying to say is, lets say u were taught in school that blue was actually red. Instead of agreeing with that, u look into it yourself to find that it wasn't right and it is in fact blue. Instead of just accepting things that you hear as truth, you look into them and see if it is in fact truth.
and i never sed i agreed with him out of the blue and first of he was agreeing with you so im tryin to figure out why u were bein analytical of him if he was agreeing with you
I didn't say that you <i>said</i> you agreed with him out of the blue- you <i>did</i> agree with him out of the blue. If he's agreeing with me- I don't see how. If he is, then he's not helping my case at all.
You two both have serious comprehension problems. Do you share needles?
u condradict ur self alot because in alot of ur other comment on other videos u chastise people for making personal attacks so i would like to know what this needle joke is about
And some peopl would be like hey, he must be right, that saves me the time to look into it because i trust what he says and he can not be lieing. People need to look into this shit themselves and draw their own conclusions.
not at all opinion and self thought is what makes people differnet and unique .if i watch a video and come up with my own conclusin on what i think it means, that is a good thing
Difference in thought is not the same thing as difference in <i>making shit up</i>. Making shit up to satisfy your own personal fantasies about some super-secret organization trying to take over the world and kill us all is not healthy.
Exactly, anyone can come up with a stupid ass idea like that. Like i can say hey it wasnt terrorists it was the monkies from the wizard of oz and they took them down because the wicked witch of the west didnt like the towers. My evidence is by the smoke which if magnified u can see the demon monkies.
im with musicalmexican people will follow ne thing that they think makes them sound cool without actually readin and researching about it to see wether or not its fact or fad
Oh, so he's not you... he's just a close friend of yours? So when you came in saying that you agreed with him out of the blue... it really wasn't out of the blue.
Fuck the idea that terrorists blew up the world trade center, that to easy of a explination, i know, it was a laser the government sent into space to destroy the world trade center great fuckin theory.. ppl in this country have gone bat shit crazy
he was saying that the idea that terrorists did it is a cop out and to easy to conclude. and what i was saying was that the death ray idea is just another idea that someone spewed out and some poeple beleived it.i was tryin to say that people are followers and dont look into things themselves they just see a death ray comment and say "well why not sounds cool guess ill follow it"
Not going to admit your first statement was a complete load of shit?
The ejection of material is not unusual just because you say so. If you show me calculations on how the ejection of material was inconsistent with a building collapse of this nature- then you will be at <i>step one.</i>
Look, I don't believe that 9/11 was a laser "from outer space"...BUT I know for a fact it IS POSSIBLE. Look up tesla weapons, scalar warfare, energetics, inferometric, longitudinal waves, tesla howitzer, tesla shield, and H.A.A.R.P. The technology does exist, regardless if it was used on 9/11.
No, "Infantryofficer" the technology does <i>not</i> exist to destroy a building using a space weapon. The energy required is so far beyond anything we are capable of that it is <b>literally</b> science fiction. <i>Nothing</i> that Tesla built or even theorized would be similar to these claims.
Sorry if i consider to many possibilities like a real scientist would. I dont shut out any possibility like you do. I consider everything possible until i can prove it wrong as long as it has even the slightest amount of evidence to back it up. I guess your 9/11 question is actually there so save you from doing any actual research. Being that all you have to do is google whatever someone asks and find your answer, then respond to it if it makes you look good!
Nest i hear this crazy "LASER from space theory." the first thing i asked myself was. "Well do they even have such technology." turns out they do and have had it for a long time. I have an interview on video from before the beginning of the second Gulf War, where they admit to haveing and using "Direct energy Weapons and Microwave Technology" Not so crazy when you know they actually have the Weaponry.
Ok, I say they do you say they dont. How can i prove that they do to you. Nothing i can do will prove it to you. I show you video of them admitting to having them. You say doesnt exist. I show another video of doctors in Iraq explaining this new technology being used on the patients they work on. You tell me it doesnt exsit. I done with you!
Anyway i see no eveidence of an explosion large enough to hit cars that far away and not damage some of the other cars in the area the same way. Next i think well could it be some sort of Foreign chemical reaction. There were traces of a substance down there i forgot its name, but it wasnt supposed to be there as well.
Tritium was the questionable trace substance (radioactive element associated with nukes/DU) There is evidence of explosive force though. 4-ton girders were found over 500ft away from ground zero. This is from the FEMA report on the debris field, page 9.
Tritium was found in <i>minute</i> amounts- 10^8 times LESS than would be needed to even <b>begin</b> to be evidence for a "nuke"... well that and actual <i>radioactivity</i>. The <B>incredibly small amounts</b> of Tritium were found to have come from the exit signs on the planes, watches, gunsights, etc. It's the material used in glow-in-the-dark materials.
The next thing i thought was the only way for this to have happened was for there to be explosions at the ground level of the WTC. I have found some evidenc that might point to this such scenario but nothing solid soo i cant really fall on it. All i have logged in video is large amounts of smoke rising from the bottom of the WTC when it shouldnt be there. I dont know the cause but i do know smoke comes from fire!!!!!!!
I have done this on your other videos so please check them out. If you would like me to post photos of these cars and there damage i will. Now i dont believe them because "Lasers from space" seem a little far fetched, but i cannot as of yet disprove them. I am a real scientist and currently i am trying to do research to find out what else could have done this to these cars.
A real scientist would have looked at the most plausible explanation. Any idea what that could be- Mr. Scientist? (Aside from the proof I've already provided)
Wow you are being made quite the fool of. I do agree those trucks were crushed and have thought so from the beginning, but i also have seen photos of melted cars in the parking lot that go along with that crazy Laser theory. I dont believe it but atleast they have evidence! What do you have to say to that? They have melted CARS and you have....What do you have to prove them wrong?
If they supposedly have "evidence" then you believe their claims to be correct. How do you dispute that?
I have proven their claims wrong with the facts. You seem to ignore that and instead say that their claims have merit. Since you offered no rebuttal to this information, I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion.
toto, you're wrong AGAIN: Firetrucks don't melt when buildings fall on them. sheesh, where do you COME from?!
You may be the most argumentative person I've never met, but that doesn't make you right. Your intellect is apparent, however misdirected and oh, so VAIN. I hope you're making good money for this, otherwise you're twice the fool.
And how much are they paying you to be an idiot? How much does your organization pad your bank account with in order for you to go around and spread lies, ignore the facts, and try to rewrite history?
These firetrucks didn't melt, genius- they were crushed, and some were on fire. Video of this is readily available- and my debunking here is more than sufficient.
toto: I'll send you a dozen photos of cars MELTED in front, untouched in back (like this firetruck, whose ladder wouldn't BEND if crushed), and an ambulance gutted seemingly by fire with the exterior paint intact. But what good would it do? Like that old Zen parable about the overfull teacup that will hold no more, so is your mind.
Do I believe in "death rays from outer space"? It doesn't matter, if they exist, whether I do or not. Plenty of people believed man would never fly.
911PH- this is not an answer to my Challenge. You continue to avoid the Challenge and instead go around and dodge it.
This video proves <i>beyond a shadow of a doubt</i> that the cause for the deformation of these vehicles is falling debris. Any death ray claims are ludicrous in and of themselves, but the "evidence" for them is also easily debunked.
Plenty of people believe that planes actually hit the towers...
Now... do you have an answer to my Challenge, <i>or not</i>?
toto: This video proves NOTHING "beyond a shadow...". If you think it does, good for you.
Plenty of people believe plenty of nonsense...
I've answered your challenge (several, actually), and all I get from you are "sound and fury, signifying nothing". Why will I ask for more of the same, when it's you who is the (artless) dodger?
hey moron you have not even come close to debunking ANYTHING! maybe you should check out patriotsquestion911dotcom and see how many people waaaaaay above you in every right have to say about it! And as far as the Death ray crap? pfffft. 1940: Tesla announces "death ray" invention. Google Haarp some time
somethingDark- I debunked the claims in your video a LONG time ago- and your appeal to authority isn't going to save you from that. What was your response to that debunking? Nothing. You disappeared. Now you come back 4 months later claiming I'm a moron and I haven't debunked anything. Quit your whining.
This trully is sad. How stupid can people be, you haven't touched on the controlled demolition theory though. In our reality that is how things are done, not with alien death rays. What about the bombs in the buildings? What about WTC 7? Buildings do not pancake collapse in seconds due to fires, never before in history. The truth is out there for those who seek it.
Therefore my conclusion is there was some kind of of small thermonuclear fusion reaction to account for the extra tritium. It may be accounted for by some other reason, buy i do not see any... Again the Boeing signs did not contain enough tritium to increase background 55X especially after dilution! What is your explanation? We might just have to agree to disagree....
You're just plain wrong- the exit signs, watches, and gun sights account for the elevated levels of tritium. The report states that quite clearly. And no- we're not going to agree to disagree. If you claim to be interested in the evidence- if you want to pretend to have science on YOUR SIDE- then you need to be prepared to accept when your claims are patently false. You have to be willing to admit that there is NO EVIDENCE of a nuclear explosion.
totovader, all I'm saying is that the tritium level at ground zero is abnormally high (55X) after most of the tritium was dissipated in the air and after 3 million gallons of high pressure water was sprayed further diluting it. 8 Boeing exit signs do not contain enough tritium to account for it
The 2 exit signs, watches, and gun sights all account for the elevated levels of tritium. That's what the report concluded. The amount of tritium that was found was not abnormal, and in no way could it possibly indicate a nuclear explosion.
okay okay back to tritium, We both agree and it is verified by reputable scientists that tritium levels were elevated 55X background, yes? I am not claiming that the tritium levels were neccessarily a health risk on the ground....The vast majority of tritium would dissipate into the atmosphere as hydrogen and tritiated water vapor immediately after the detonation.
The elevated levels of tritium are not abnormal considering the magnitude of the event. You are attempting to insinuate that the elevated levels are evidence of a nuclear explosion- but the science just plain disagrees with you.
So to summarize your error: The testing found- at most- 3 nCi/L and that was in the basement of WTC6 on 9/21 (inconsistent with nuclear explosion). On 9/14 the storm sewer of WTC was tested and it was found to have 0.164 nCi/L. The EPA standards on drinking water are 20 nCi/L. A lethal dose of tritium is 10 Ci, or 1x10^10 nCi/L (through ingestion- more lethal). In a hydrogen bomb, millions of Ci are present- you're missing 1x10^18 Ci of tritium and apparently even more Iodine-131 (Jones).
No...forget the video. It can be faked too easily as we all see in the outrageous manipulations in the CNN video frauds... I guess you will have to provide concrete evidence in some other way...I have given you evidence that 11 & 77 did not fly from the governments own statistics. What is your rebuttal?
Correction: BTS= Bureau of Transportation Statistics. Yes it is a government agency. Please explain totovader why flights 11 and 77 according to BTS are not scheduled for departure or arrival on 911. Please provide evidence that they did fly. A date stamped airport security camera video of take-off might do it.....
no comment totovader? No Planer 1 Debunker 0 Well, lets move on to "planes", shall we? Please provide evidence that Flights AA11 & AA77 flew on 911. According to the BTS(Bureau of Statistics) they did not. BTS gives detailed records on scheduled & actual departure times, arrival times, diversions,
cancellations by departure airport, arrival airport, airline & flight no. Flight 11 & 77 were not scheduled that day. Please cite evidence that they did fly
No- we're not going to move on. We're going to stick to one topic at a time, and you're going to stick to the evidence. This is not a chat room, I will reply when I am at my computer. I answered one of your questions- now you answer my Challenge.
And i do agree the AMOUNT is important! A 55 fold increase in the AMOUNT of the radioactive isotope tritium even though it is very rare is a significant amount
No, it's not. The AMOUNT was nowhere NEAR a nuclear explosion. You continue to avoid this. You claim the amount is important but then you avoid stating how much the amount was. The report YOU CITED even says that it was "well below the levels of concern to human exposure".
So you see it is you who are avoiding the "EVIDENCE" Please cite evidence and figures to confirm that exit signs and glow in the dark watches would provide enough anomolous tritium to increase tritium levels 55X after millions of gallons of water had diluted the tritium levels.
No, I'm looking right at the evidence. The evidence says that there is no way a nuclear explosion took place- there's no way that this amount equals a nuclear explosion.
Cont, So the initial concentrations of elevated tritium immediately after the thermonuclear detonation may have been hundreds or thousands of times higher, considering the measurements were take 10 days later and millions of gallons of water had diluted the tritium concentrations
Please take into consideration these Tritium levels(55X normal) were measured after over 3 million gallons of water were pumped on the site, allowing for significant dilution of initial tritium concentrations. You must admit Totovader that all elevated tritium concentrations are found near radioactive facilities or waste sights: "Yucca Mtn-USGS has found anomolous concentrations of tritium", "Great Lakes reactors emit tritium into water""Nuclear Dump By Riverside: Threats to Savannah River" etc
You state that a 55 fold increase in a very rare isotope in nature is insignificant?
Really....Again please cite evidence that exit signs and watches(only those with glow in the dark faces) which use extremely small amounts of tritium could increase background levels by 55x
You're dodging the question livanlitliv... The AMOUNT is the important factor- NOT the increase. You keep hiding behind the "55x" number but REFUSE to post the actual numbers because you know that they're insignificant. The presence of tritium, whether it's "55x" the normal levels (of almost nothing)- does not mean nuclear explosion- period. You yourself claim it's rare to find it in nature- so SMALL amounts times "55x" is still small amounts.
From your own words "the levels they found were not unusual considering the magnitude of the event" you"re right.... considering the magnitude of mini nukes exploding in the basements the elevated tritium levels (55X) were not unusual for a small thermonuclear detonation. I dont believe a few exit signs and watches could increase tritium levels that much.....
So they were in the basements, now? How does that even make any sense at all- the buildings fell from the top down. And YES, exit signs and watches can increase the tritium levels "55x" because the NORMAL amount is almost nothing. Notice how you can't actually come up with a number? You just expect "55x" to be enough... but it's not.
Elevated tritium levels can only be explained by thermonuclear detonation.
Please explain elevated tritium levels at ground zero AND please give an explanation other than thermonuclear detonation for the elevated tritium levels
Two of NIST's contractors for 9/11 report (ARA & SAIC) are involved in developing DEW (Directed Energy Weapons).
ARA are co founders of 'Directed Energy Prof Soc'
Rumsfeld when questioned by a reporter (it's on youtube) admitted DEWs are in "early stages" (how advanced does that make classified DEW?!).
Basic DEWs now appear on warships and are openly used for crowd control (ADS).
But all of the above is just an elaborate conspiracy to make us believe DEWs exist.
- they don't!
Honest! ;)
project3ss 1 month ago
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911 was an inside job
spystyle 2 months ago
You cannot disprove a 4 day time cube!
theoriginal72 5 months ago
he's gotta be dis-info agent...or really stupid
truthterrorist11 9 months ago
The funniest thing about totovader is his avatar haha :D As he himself states, lack of evidence is not evidence xD guess he got evidence there is no Death Ray :P And no i dont believe there is a death ray, but i dont mind people believing it :)
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Jimmy Walters, who appeared at St Marks church at a 9/11 Truth event and showed a film focusing on the sexual habits, homosexuality, beastiality and sexual perversions (in detail) of members of the Bush administration. Many of those in attendance left, appalled at the content being presented at a Les Jamieson promoted 9/11 event.
Les Jamieson
National Coordinator
NYC 9/11 Ballot Initiative / NYCCAN
NYsentinel 2 years ago
These are the real that should be thrown out like "Death Ray from outter space!"
Give me a fucking break, someone like me who is intuitively knowledgeable about technology knows that the idea and technology is well beyond our capabilities at least for the next 40-80 years.
IamtheVOICE123 2 years ago
dude your a douche. DOn't you know who Nikola Tesla is?!? you wouldn't even live the way you live without the inventor of AC and radio. What about flipped over cars at wtc similar to the renowned experimentor John J. Hutchinson. His so called Hutchison effect leaves all possibilities open. You are the type of brother gonna keep us down. close minded douche
tcoc112233 3 years ago
You're babbling- you don't even know what you're talking about. The "Hutchison Effect" was debunked- and John Hutchison admitted to faking videos which he claimed showed his research.
Flipped over cars? Did you watch the video, here? The flipped over cars come from an unusual scientific phenomena known as a "clean up using a forklift". Moron.
totovader 3 years ago 2
"Not that thermite makes any sense anyway: it's never been used- and can't be used- in a CD"
What these Truthers do not seem to grasp is that TIMING -- very precise timing -- is critical to a CD. Thermite cannot be timed, even if it could somehow be made to reliably cut a vertical column (which it can't).
For those who haven't used a thermite grenade and don't realize how imprecise & sloppy it is, watch any Youtube examples of thermite in action -- you'll see why the demo people laugh at it.
MsgtSpook 3 years ago 2
Really? Well I have a construction worker in the family that has been using thermite for a number of years and states that the timing can be accurate, the way it can be controlled is very precise and can be even remotely detonated. So who is lying here? Some faceless youtube user with no facts to back up his claim, or a member of my own family who has a JOB in the field.
IamtheVOICE123 2 years ago
"Jones has used sophisticated scientific methods to prove a point and has done it very well ...the methods are SEM .. and X-EDS ..."
Using scientific techniques on crap data yields ... crap.
When astrologers started cranking their spooky woo into computers and giving (actually, SELLING) scientific-looking printouts to their suckers, it only fooled the fools.
MsgtSpook 3 years ago
AD Hominem's do not construct an arguement.
IamtheVOICE123 2 years ago
lol that makes 2 of us tool
luckystrike5201 3 years ago
Let's see who's the tool- see if you can stop babbling for 5 minutes and answer my Challenge. If you don't like the DRFOS claims (despite the fact that its a popular claim among "the Scholars") then perhaps you can show everyone what the RIGHT claim is- see my Challenge video and stop wasting both our time.
totovader 3 years ago
wait ..what what the fuck....deathray.......what a waste of time
its still an inside job...
and toto ur wasting ur time wtf? are you doing
luckystrike5201 3 years ago
Why am I wasting MY time? YOU are the one posting on a video OVER A YEAR OLD...
totovader 3 years ago
Steven Jones ftw
twalker76jspk 3 years ago
... if the game we were playing was "Who is the biggest fraud in the world"
totovader 3 years ago
You already said that. What I'm asking for is if you actually understand the method- if you can defend this claim at ALL, or if you're just repeating what you're told to repeat. "Trusting his judgement" is a pretty stupid thing to say when it's supposed to be "irrefutable scientific smoking gun evidence". You just shot yourself in the foot.
totovader 3 years ago
That makes a lot of sense. Clearly all you're capable of is tossing out stupid personal attacks because you can't even defend your own position. Do you even realize how stupid your claim is?
totovader 3 years ago
This proves to me that you're just repeating what you're told to repeat. You can name the technology Jones used, and you can call it "sophisticated scientific methods" (which is a joke)- but you can't even begin to understand what his claim is, why it makes no sense at all, and why he's dead wrong. You're just parroting buzz words like any good zealot should- but you can't defend your position at all. You don't even understand it.
totovader 3 years ago
And not a SINGLE ONE of his papers has ever been through the peer-review process. In fact, THAT'S WHAT HE WAS FIRED FOR. The fact that he used "actual data" to arrive at an absurd and invalid conclusion does not mean that he used the scientific method or that his conclusion was correct. He used partial data which is not only inadmissable from a scientific standpoint- but completely irrelevant to boot. Sulphur means NOTHING.
totovader 3 years ago
For someone who is smart enough to recognize the stupidity of someone like Judy Wood, you sure like to take anything Steven Jones says- who is just as stupid if not more- and not even question it. I've actually researched this stuff. I've actually looked into it. All you can do is pretend that anyone who disagrees with you is a moron and Steven Jones is a God. Turns out- you're the shill.
totovader 3 years ago
Already saw that. Do you know WHERE he got the "dust samples" from? Do you know WHAT he found in them, what he DIDN'T find in them, and why it makes no difference whatsoever?
totovader 3 years ago
And the experts in the field that actually USE THAT TECHNOLOGY state that he has completely misunderstood it and misrepresented his findings. Not that thermite makes any sense anyway: it's never been used- and can't be used- in a CD. It's a "burning" agent, not a high explosive. Furthermore it "burns" down, not laterally- so it can't be used in CD. Any CD expert can confirm this for you. The idea is just stupid- it makes no sense at all.
totovader 3 years ago
I have actually looked at Steven Jones' findings. Do you understand them? He found sulphur. He found iron sphereules. Do you understand why he thinks that is important, and why it actually isn't? It takes 2 minutes of research to debunk his claims. First, sulphur is not at all unusual- and he didn't find ANY of the KEY ingredients in thermite like barium nitrate, which would have been in MUCH HIGHER quantities than the sulfur.
totovader 3 years ago
He's just as crazy and stupid as the rest of them. I'm not sure how you can admit that Judy Wood is a moron in one sentence and then turn around and claim that Steven Jones is a hero in the next... they're the same nutcase, just with different nutcase ideas. Your No True Scotsman fallacy aside- how can you not recognize that they BOTH make the SAME mistakes?
totovader 3 years ago
So, you think Steven Jones is NOT a disgrace to the "911 movement"? You didn't answer my question.
totovader 3 years ago
Out of curiosity, who ISN'T a disgrace to the 911 movement?
totovader 3 years ago
WTF IS THIS SERIOUSE????
trevorpickering 4 years ago
a debate would involve true debating.
Zhagarim 4 years ago 2
... and thought. I can see why you need to avoid it.
totovader 4 years ago
all ct's are ct's, and nothing has been debunked.
Zhagarim 4 years ago
You really need to work on your debating skills.
totovader 4 years ago
This much has been debunked. Judy Woo-Woo has no clue what a vehicle is supposed to look like after a noraml fire.
We just whatched a video showing a perfectly normal burned-out vehicle. There is nothing the least bit odd about it to anyone with a clue about fire fighting.
But then, how much experience have any of the twoofers of fire fighting?
leftysergeant 3 years ago
haha judy woo woo
crwnikeboy 3 years ago
Must be really important and so courageous and difficult to debunk death-rays from outer space. ZZZZZzzzzzzz
elyohcsrev 4 years ago
Important enough for you to comment, wasn't it?
totovader 4 years ago
Touche..
elyohcsrev 4 years ago
Don't be discouraged. These conspiracy theories will go into the ash heap of history. And while they are left in the forgotten, future generation will be learning about what really happened: Jihadists destroyed those towers, and if we don't stop them they'll destroy every thing else too.
outkid 4 years ago
Is this a joke? This isn't even a theory at all? prick.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
What the hell are you babbling about?
totovader 4 years ago
What are you babbling about?
death ray from outa space? who the hell thinks that apart from absolute nutters?
swanseaboy 4 years ago
Um, the people I'm RESPONDING to?
All conspiracists are nutters- these guys are just more fun to laugh at.
totovader 4 years ago
Yes exept the real evidence and facts about 9/11 are not conspiracy theorist, but people name them as that to make them look like the nutters who believe things like this!
swanseaboy 4 years ago
The real facts and evidence do not lead to a conspiracy theory, however.
If you don't want to be labeled as a conspiracist or a nutter, then don't believe things that are conspiracy theories or nutty.
totovader 4 years ago
I don't believe things which are conspiracy or nutty.
That is why i do not believe the governments story and myth of 9/11.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
Conspiracy and conspiracy theory are two completely different things. If you believe in conspiracy theories, then you believe in nuttiness.
Trying to escape that by claiming that the "governments story" is a conspiracy theory doesn't help your case. You're only saying that you're trading one conspiracy theory for another.
totovader 4 years ago
You are making these videos to make light of a very serious situation. By branding anyone who believes other than the governments story as ''nutters'' .
swanseaboy 4 years ago
Now you're saying that people who believe that the towers were brought down with a death ray from outer space are NOT nutters?
You think that they should be taken seriously?
You need to make up your mind.
totovader 4 years ago
Did i say that? no i didn't.
Goodbye.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
"You are making these videos to make light of a very serious situation."
This video is about people who think that the towers were taken down by a death ray from outer space.
"By branding anyone who believes other than the governments story as 'nutters'."
Strawman- but you clearly have no other option after already committing a No True Scotsman fallacy. Now you have to defend your nutter peers.
totovader 4 years ago
The serious situation is 300 dead innocent people, not the stupid conspiracy theory you address in this video. You are laughing at 3000 innocent dead people, and making light of it.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
300 or 3000?
I'm not laughing at the death of close to 3000 people- I'm debunking the claims by people who mock their deaths with stupid conspiracy theories for political gain.
You will not find a SINGLE example of me laughing at the deaths of these people. So not only are you a nutter- but a liar.
totovader 4 years ago
So i'm a nutter? For believing that the government might actually be lying? and a liar? what have a lied about?
How many times do they need to lie for you to realise?
swanseaboy 4 years ago
No, you're a nutter for the same reason that the DRFOS people are nutters: you believe something in lack of any evidence- and despite all the evidence to the contrary. You believe these things because you WANT to, not because there's any scientific basis for your conclusion.
You lied about saying that I am laughing at the deaths of these victims. It's a pathetic attempt at an appeal to emotion. You're desperate.
totovader 4 years ago
Well for one, there are plenty of facts to the contrary and for two there is plenty of scientific evidence. But i will leave it there. Because you obviously don't know much about this at all.
swanseaboy 4 years ago
What a pathetic copout.
My videos detail some of the lies of the conspiracist movement- I doubt you have anything to say to them besides whining that they exist.
If you want to claim I don't know much at all- then answer my Challenge and stop beating your chest over nothing.
totovader 4 years ago
What is your ''challenge''?
swanseaboy 4 years ago
See my other videos- not sure how you could come to the conclusion that I don't know much at all if you haven't even bothered to notice that I have more than 1 video.
totovader 4 years ago
totovader RULES!!!
JMazz89 4 years ago
I never heard that..LOL..Gosh, the death ray..I should have thought of that..
americansherrybaby 4 years ago
Death rays from outer space? That's the stupidest one yet! Do people seriously believe in this?
Elkahatchee9 4 years ago
Dude...you are faced with so much evidence that contradicts the official version of events...you're just to fucking stupid to see it . you're the fucking fruitcake conspiracy theorist !!
splutonium 4 years ago
You're not helping your case, here.
totovader 4 years ago
"Dude...you are faced with so much evidence that contradicts the official version of events"
Name one.
thedman113 4 years ago
good job
willem01 4 years ago
radicislam;bsregistration;jay123jd like to just spam insults but cannot debate science. i tire of this/them.
Dertygian 4 years ago 3
toto keep it up i have watched your videos and bsregistration's videos and it is way easier to make up conspiracies than to debunk them. so keep up the great work.
rickyleigh 4 years ago
Yeah, either that or you kill yourself. Cuz i mean no one wants to see your ugly ass mug on their computer screen, so pull the trigger buddy and the world will finally accept you.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
Yeah, like I'm going to take your criticism seriously at this point. I think I stopped listening to you when you called me a "jew mother fucker".
Kids like you obviously have nothing better to do- but you can leave my videos now.
totovader 4 years ago
Like seriously im not gunna lie i looked at ur other videos, and your a ugly bitch. Suicide is a option.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
Leaving is an option. I suggest you take it.
totovader 4 years ago
stop making videos is also an option.i suggest you take it.because there are alot of options.
tranceporter09 4 years ago
Why would I do that, tranceporter? You agree with musicalmexican when he makes such stupid statements?
totovader 4 years ago
Alright ill let it go even tho you were a asshole. I mean the frustration and crap is understandable. I mean who wouldn't be cranky if they were 30 years old living in their moms basement making debunking videos on shit that is totally fuckin stupid and no one would believe in the first place as you sit there and rub your life sized cat women doll as you have sex with two slices of wonder bread. So its all good bro.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
Wow. Your personal attacks would stick a lot better if they were: a) true and b) spelled correctly.
totovader 4 years ago
Nah im just saying its good that you are looking into things instead of accepting what you hear so its a compliment.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
Ok, let's leave it at that, then.
totovader 4 years ago
Cuz u went and said hey thats stupid so im going to look into it and prove that its impossible and shed some light on it.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
Like i dont understand why your being a ass about it when we are simply agreeing with what you said not argueing anything you said. Also we are sayin its a good thing that some people actually go and look into things instead of accepting them with no questions asked like this whole death laser.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
Because nothing you're saying makes sense. Like I said below, if you're agreeing with me it's not helping my case.
Is it drugs? Seriously. Get some help.
totovader 4 years ago
here you go again with personal attacks dont worry though its really attractive
tranceporter09 4 years ago
I'm sure it is...
totovader 4 years ago
Nah what hes trying to say is, lets say u were taught in school that blue was actually red. Instead of agreeing with that, u look into it yourself to find that it wasn't right and it is in fact blue. Instead of just accepting things that you hear as truth, you look into them and see if it is in fact truth.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
And what does that have to do with this video?
totovader 4 years ago
and i never sed i agreed with him out of the blue and first of he was agreeing with you so im tryin to figure out why u were bein analytical of him if he was agreeing with you
tranceporter09 4 years ago
I didn't say that you <i>said</i> you agreed with him out of the blue- you <i>did</i> agree with him out of the blue. If he's agreeing with me- I don't see how. If he is, then he's not helping my case at all.
You two both have serious comprehension problems. Do you share needles?
totovader 4 years ago
u condradict ur self alot because in alot of ur other comment on other videos u chastise people for making personal attacks so i would like to know what this needle joke is about
tranceporter09 4 years ago
Your comments make no sense.
totovader 4 years ago
so that means ur saying have=ing an opinion is wrong
ok got it
tranceporter09 4 years ago
Nice strawman.
So you're saying being a complete moron is right?
Got it.
totovader 4 years ago
And some peopl would be like hey, he must be right, that saves me the time to look into it because i trust what he says and he can not be lieing. People need to look into this shit themselves and draw their own conclusions.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
<i>No</i>, people need to look at the <b>evidence</b> and agree to the conclusions that <B>the evidence provides them</b>.
Too many people are drawing <i>their own conclusions</i>, that's exactly the problem.
totovader 4 years ago
not at all opinion and self thought is what makes people differnet and unique .if i watch a video and come up with my own conclusin on what i think it means, that is a good thing
tranceporter09 4 years ago
Difference in thought is not the same thing as difference in <i>making shit up</i>. Making shit up to satisfy your own personal fantasies about some super-secret organization trying to take over the world and kill us all is not healthy.
totovader 4 years ago
difference in thought causes opionion so i say to you again u think i=opinion is a bad thing
tranceporter09 4 years ago
That makes no sense at all.
totovader 4 years ago
Exactly, anyone can come up with a stupid ass idea like that. Like i can say hey it wasnt terrorists it was the monkies from the wizard of oz and they took them down because the wicked witch of the west didnt like the towers. My evidence is by the smoke which if magnified u can see the demon monkies.
musicalmexican 4 years ago
So your claim is that people should... not believe in flying "monkies"?
totovader 4 years ago
im with musicalmexican people will follow ne thing that they think makes them sound cool without actually readin and researching about it to see wether or not its fact or fad
tranceporter09 4 years ago
It looks like you're often with musicalmexican... probably because you're the same person.
totovader 4 years ago
actually musicalmexican is a close friend of mine and he is agreeing with you
tranceporter09 4 years ago
Oh, so he's not you... he's just a close friend of yours? So when you came in saying that you agreed with him out of the blue... it really wasn't out of the blue.
Got it.
totovader 4 years ago
Fuck the idea that terrorists blew up the world trade center, that to easy of a explination, i know, it was a laser the government sent into space to destroy the world trade center great fuckin theory.. ppl in this country have gone bat shit crazy
musicalmexican 4 years ago
"Fuck the idea" is not evidence- neither is "that to easy of a explination".
People in this country have gone bat shit <i>stupid</i>.
totovader 4 years ago
he was saying that the idea that terrorists did it is a cop out and to easy to conclude. and what i was saying was that the death ray idea is just another idea that someone spewed out and some poeple beleived it.i was tryin to say that people are followers and dont look into things themselves they just see a death ray comment and say "well why not sounds cool guess ill follow it"
tranceporter09 4 years ago
If you have a point, you're not doing a very good job of making it.
totovader 4 years ago
not going to address the lateral movement of 4-ton girders 500 feet from the FEMA report?
lnfantryofficer 4 years ago
Not going to admit your first statement was a complete load of shit?
The ejection of material is not unusual just because you say so. If you show me calculations on how the ejection of material was inconsistent with a building collapse of this nature- then you will be at <i>step one.</i>
totovader 4 years ago
Look, I don't believe that 9/11 was a laser "from outer space"...BUT I know for a fact it IS POSSIBLE. Look up tesla weapons, scalar warfare, energetics, inferometric, longitudinal waves, tesla howitzer, tesla shield, and H.A.A.R.P. The technology does exist, regardless if it was used on 9/11.
lnfantryofficer 4 years ago
No, "Infantryofficer" the technology does <i>not</i> exist to destroy a building using a space weapon. The energy required is so far beyond anything we are capable of that it is <b>literally</b> science fiction. <i>Nothing</i> that Tesla built or even theorized would be similar to these claims.
totovader 4 years ago
here is some of the stuff he never theorized.
frank. germano. com/machinetoendwar. htm
then-Defense Secretary William Cohen addressing this threat
thememoryhole. org/mil/cohen-ecoweapons. htm
lnfantryofficer 4 years ago
Do I really need to repeat what I said?
totovader 4 years ago
Its called a scalar energy tap, or earth energy tap.
lnfantryofficer 4 years ago
It's not called a death ray from outer space or a building destructo laser.
totovader 4 years ago
Not unless you are a childish twat that just likes winning regardless if he looks at the information.
lnfantryofficer 4 years ago
Sorry, I don't know this game...
totovader 4 years ago
Sorry if i consider to many possibilities like a real scientist would. I dont shut out any possibility like you do. I consider everything possible until i can prove it wrong as long as it has even the slightest amount of evidence to back it up. I guess your 9/11 question is actually there so save you from doing any actual research. Being that all you have to do is google whatever someone asks and find your answer, then respond to it if it makes you look good!
oneshotki11 4 years ago
I don't shut out any possibility- unless there is absolutely no evidence for it. Even then, I'm willing to consider it and hear the claims.
Ones such as these are absurd on their own. Easily debunked- and there's absolutely no evidence for them.
You're blabbing on and on, and beating your chest over nothing. I need to start seeing some evidence, now. Do you have any?
totovader 4 years ago
Nest i hear this crazy "LASER from space theory." the first thing i asked myself was. "Well do they even have such technology." turns out they do and have had it for a long time. I have an interview on video from before the beginning of the second Gulf War, where they admit to haveing and using "Direct energy Weapons and Microwave Technology" Not so crazy when you know they actually have the Weaponry.
oneshotki11 4 years ago 2
They do not have "such technology". The energy weapons we have are nowhere close to this kind of capability.
So yes, it is crazy. Certifiable, even.
totovader 4 years ago
Ok, I say they do you say they dont. How can i prove that they do to you. Nothing i can do will prove it to you. I show you video of them admitting to having them. You say doesnt exist. I show another video of doctors in Iraq explaining this new technology being used on the patients they work on. You tell me it doesnt exsit. I done with you!
oneshotki11 4 years ago
I already told you, kiddo- evidence.
All of your comments need to be in the redux video. I'm not going to chase you around every one of my videos.
totovader 4 years ago
Anyway i see no eveidence of an explosion large enough to hit cars that far away and not damage some of the other cars in the area the same way. Next i think well could it be some sort of Foreign chemical reaction. There were traces of a substance down there i forgot its name, but it wasnt supposed to be there as well.
oneshotki11 4 years ago
And the falling debris? That thought never entered your mind?
Foreign chemical reaction? What the hell does that mean? Traces of what, kiddo?
totovader 4 years ago
Tritium was the questionable trace substance (radioactive element associated with nukes/DU) There is evidence of explosive force though. 4-ton girders were found over 500ft away from ground zero. This is from the FEMA report on the debris field, page 9.
lnfantryofficer 4 years ago
Tritium was found in <i>minute</i> amounts- 10^8 times LESS than would be needed to even <b>begin</b> to be evidence for a "nuke"... well that and actual <i>radioactivity</i>. The <B>incredibly small amounts</b> of Tritium were found to have come from the exit signs on the planes, watches, gunsights, etc. It's the material used in glow-in-the-dark materials.
totovader 4 years ago
The next thing i thought was the only way for this to have happened was for there to be explosions at the ground level of the WTC. I have found some evidenc that might point to this such scenario but nothing solid soo i cant really fall on it. All i have logged in video is large amounts of smoke rising from the bottom of the WTC when it shouldnt be there. I dont know the cause but i do know smoke comes from fire!!!!!!!
oneshotki11 4 years ago
I removed your previous comment, accidentally- feel free to repost it, but it doesn't look like you're saying much.
Where is the smoke you're talking about?
totovader 4 years ago
I have done this on your other videos so please check them out. If you would like me to post photos of these cars and there damage i will. Now i dont believe them because "Lasers from space" seem a little far fetched, but i cannot as of yet disprove them. I am a real scientist and currently i am trying to do research to find out what else could have done this to these cars.
oneshotki11 4 years ago
A real scientist would have looked at the most plausible explanation. Any idea what that could be- Mr. Scientist? (Aside from the proof I've already provided)
totovader 4 years ago
Wow you are being made quite the fool of. I do agree those trucks were crushed and have thought so from the beginning, but i also have seen photos of melted cars in the parking lot that go along with that crazy Laser theory. I dont believe it but atleast they have evidence! What do you have to say to that? They have melted CARS and you have....What do you have to prove them wrong?
oneshotki11 4 years ago
If they supposedly have "evidence" then you believe their claims to be correct. How do you dispute that?
I have proven their claims wrong with the facts. You seem to ignore that and instead say that their claims have merit. Since you offered no rebuttal to this information, I have no idea how you arrived at that conclusion.
totovader 4 years ago
A death ray from outer space? I've never heard that one before...That is quite humorous. Good video.
AmandaF0001 4 years ago
toto, you're wrong AGAIN: Firetrucks don't melt when buildings fall on them. sheesh, where do you COME from?!
You may be the most argumentative person I've never met, but that doesn't make you right. Your intellect is apparent, however misdirected and oh, so VAIN. I hope you're making good money for this, otherwise you're twice the fool.
911PearlHarbor 4 years ago
And how much are they paying you to be an idiot? How much does your organization pad your bank account with in order for you to go around and spread lies, ignore the facts, and try to rewrite history?
These firetrucks didn't melt, genius- they were crushed, and some were on fire. Video of this is readily available- and my debunking here is more than sufficient.
totovader 4 years ago
toto: I'll send you a dozen photos of cars MELTED in front, untouched in back (like this firetruck, whose ladder wouldn't BEND if crushed), and an ambulance gutted seemingly by fire with the exterior paint intact. But what good would it do? Like that old Zen parable about the overfull teacup that will hold no more, so is your mind.
Do I believe in "death rays from outer space"? It doesn't matter, if they exist, whether I do or not. Plenty of people believed man would never fly.
911PearlHarbor 4 years ago
911PH- this is not an answer to my Challenge. You continue to avoid the Challenge and instead go around and dodge it.
This video proves <i>beyond a shadow of a doubt</i> that the cause for the deformation of these vehicles is falling debris. Any death ray claims are ludicrous in and of themselves, but the "evidence" for them is also easily debunked.
Plenty of people believe that planes actually hit the towers...
Now... do you have an answer to my Challenge, <i>or not</i>?
totovader 4 years ago
toto: This video proves NOTHING "beyond a shadow...". If you think it does, good for you.
Plenty of people believe plenty of nonsense...
I've answered your challenge (several, actually), and all I get from you are "sound and fury, signifying nothing". Why will I ask for more of the same, when it's you who is the (artless) dodger?
911PearlHarbor 4 years ago
I'll say what I said in the other video- quote where you answered the Challenge.
totovader 4 years ago
Death Ray from outter space?
A crumbled truck proves this?
They could at least make believable theories instead of pulling anyting they can to say the government did it.
atecom 4 years ago
hey moron you have not even come close to debunking ANYTHING! maybe you should check out patriotsquestion911dotcom and see how many people waaaaaay above you in every right have to say about it! And as far as the Death ray crap? pfffft. 1940: Tesla announces "death ray" invention. Google Haarp some time
somethingDark 4 years ago
somethingDark- I debunked the claims in your video a LONG time ago- and your appeal to authority isn't going to save you from that. What was your response to that debunking? Nothing. You disappeared. Now you come back 4 months later claiming I'm a moron and I haven't debunked anything. Quit your whining.
totovader 4 years ago
Another great video. Has anyone here acknowledged that this ladder 3 thing has been successfully addressed in this video?
terminal1104 4 years ago
This trully is sad. How stupid can people be, you haven't touched on the controlled demolition theory though. In our reality that is how things are done, not with alien death rays. What about the bombs in the buildings? What about WTC 7? Buildings do not pancake collapse in seconds due to fires, never before in history. The truth is out there for those who seek it.
Nazikiller666 4 years ago
Try "seeking" my other videos- I address ALL conspiracy theories regarding 9/11.
totovader 4 years ago
go to my profile and watch the video on my favorites.
you can clearly see where, when, and why the towers start to fall.
PtH888999 4 years ago
Therefore my conclusion is there was some kind of of small thermonuclear fusion reaction to account for the extra tritium. It may be accounted for by some other reason, buy i do not see any... Again the Boeing signs did not contain enough tritium to increase background 55X especially after dilution! What is your explanation? We might just have to agree to disagree....
livanletliv 4 years ago
You're just plain wrong- the exit signs, watches, and gun sights account for the elevated levels of tritium. The report states that quite clearly. And no- we're not going to agree to disagree. If you claim to be interested in the evidence- if you want to pretend to have science on YOUR SIDE- then you need to be prepared to accept when your claims are patently false. You have to be willing to admit that there is NO EVIDENCE of a nuclear explosion.
totovader 4 years ago
totovader, all I'm saying is that the tritium level at ground zero is abnormally high (55X) after most of the tritium was dissipated in the air and after 3 million gallons of high pressure water was sprayed further diluting it. 8 Boeing exit signs do not contain enough tritium to account for it
livanletliv 4 years ago
The 2 exit signs, watches, and gun sights all account for the elevated levels of tritium. That's what the report concluded. The amount of tritium that was found was not abnormal, and in no way could it possibly indicate a nuclear explosion.
totovader 4 years ago
okay okay back to tritium, We both agree and it is verified by reputable scientists that tritium levels were elevated 55X background, yes? I am not claiming that the tritium levels were neccessarily a health risk on the ground....The vast majority of tritium would dissipate into the atmosphere as hydrogen and tritiated water vapor immediately after the detonation.
livanletliv 4 years ago
The elevated levels of tritium are not abnormal considering the magnitude of the event. You are attempting to insinuate that the elevated levels are evidence of a nuclear explosion- but the science just plain disagrees with you.
totovader 4 years ago
So to summarize your error: The testing found- at most- 3 nCi/L and that was in the basement of WTC6 on 9/21 (inconsistent with nuclear explosion). On 9/14 the storm sewer of WTC was tested and it was found to have 0.164 nCi/L. The EPA standards on drinking water are 20 nCi/L. A lethal dose of tritium is 10 Ci, or 1x10^10 nCi/L (through ingestion- more lethal). In a hydrogen bomb, millions of Ci are present- you're missing 1x10^18 Ci of tritium and apparently even more Iodine-131 (Jones).
totovader 4 years ago
Just as I thought..no comment... No Planer 2 Debunker 0 Kudos to Gerard Holmgren for the BTS info
livanletliv 4 years ago
Again, this is not a chat room. If I do not reply within 1 hour it's because I'M NOT HERE.
totovader 4 years ago
No...forget the video. It can be faked too easily as we all see in the outrageous manipulations in the CNN video frauds... I guess you will have to provide concrete evidence in some other way...I have given you evidence that 11 & 77 did not fly from the governments own statistics. What is your rebuttal?
livanletliv 4 years ago
Correction: BTS= Bureau of Transportation Statistics. Yes it is a government agency. Please explain totovader why flights 11 and 77 according to BTS are not scheduled for departure or arrival on 911. Please provide evidence that they did fly. A date stamped airport security camera video of take-off might do it.....
livanletliv 4 years ago
no comment totovader? No Planer 1 Debunker 0 Well, lets move on to "planes", shall we? Please provide evidence that Flights AA11 & AA77 flew on 911. According to the BTS(Bureau of Statistics) they did not. BTS gives detailed records on scheduled & actual departure times, arrival times, diversions,
cancellations by departure airport, arrival airport, airline & flight no. Flight 11 & 77 were not scheduled that day. Please cite evidence that they did fly
livanletliv 4 years ago
No- we're not going to move on. We're going to stick to one topic at a time, and you're going to stick to the evidence. This is not a chat room, I will reply when I am at my computer. I answered one of your questions- now you answer my Challenge.
totovader 4 years ago
And i do agree the AMOUNT is important! A 55 fold increase in the AMOUNT of the radioactive isotope tritium even though it is very rare is a significant amount
livanletliv 4 years ago
No, it's not. The AMOUNT was nowhere NEAR a nuclear explosion. You continue to avoid this. You claim the amount is important but then you avoid stating how much the amount was. The report YOU CITED even says that it was "well below the levels of concern to human exposure".
totovader 4 years ago
So you see it is you who are avoiding the "EVIDENCE" Please cite evidence and figures to confirm that exit signs and glow in the dark watches would provide enough anomolous tritium to increase tritium levels 55X after millions of gallons of water had diluted the tritium levels.
livanletliv 4 years ago
No, I'm looking right at the evidence. The evidence says that there is no way a nuclear explosion took place- there's no way that this amount equals a nuclear explosion.
totovader 4 years ago
Cont, So the initial concentrations of elevated tritium immediately after the thermonuclear detonation may have been hundreds or thousands of times higher, considering the measurements were take 10 days later and millions of gallons of water had diluted the tritium concentrations
livanletliv 4 years ago
Do you have any proof of that, liv? Is the entire population of NY sick from radiation poisoning?
totovader 4 years ago
Please take into consideration these Tritium levels(55X normal) were measured after over 3 million gallons of water were pumped on the site, allowing for significant dilution of initial tritium concentrations. You must admit Totovader that all elevated tritium concentrations are found near radioactive facilities or waste sights: "Yucca Mtn-USGS has found anomolous concentrations of tritium", "Great Lakes reactors emit tritium into water""Nuclear Dump By Riverside: Threats to Savannah River" etc
livanletliv 4 years ago
This is not an answer to the question, liv.
totovader 4 years ago
lol i hate that genghis guy. he fuckin beleives that a Missile With Wings Which is Smaller Than A jet Fighter Hit The Twin Towers
KokSquad 4 years ago
You state that a 55 fold increase in a very rare isotope in nature is insignificant?
Really....Again please cite evidence that exit signs and watches(only those with glow in the dark faces) which use extremely small amounts of tritium could increase background levels by 55x
livanletliv 4 years ago
You're dodging the question livanlitliv... The AMOUNT is the important factor- NOT the increase. You keep hiding behind the "55x" number but REFUSE to post the actual numbers because you know that they're insignificant. The presence of tritium, whether it's "55x" the normal levels (of almost nothing)- does not mean nuclear explosion- period. You yourself claim it's rare to find it in nature- so SMALL amounts times "55x" is still small amounts.
totovader 4 years ago
From your own words "the levels they found were not unusual considering the magnitude of the event" you"re right.... considering the magnitude of mini nukes exploding in the basements the elevated tritium levels (55X) were not unusual for a small thermonuclear detonation. I dont believe a few exit signs and watches could increase tritium levels that much.....
livanletliv 4 years ago
So they were in the basements, now? How does that even make any sense at all- the buildings fell from the top down. And YES, exit signs and watches can increase the tritium levels "55x" because the NORMAL amount is almost nothing. Notice how you can't actually come up with a number? You just expect "55x" to be enough... but it's not.
totovader 4 years ago
Elevated tritium levels can only be explained by thermonuclear detonation.
Please explain elevated tritium levels at ground zero AND please give an explanation other than thermonuclear detonation for the elevated tritium levels
livanletliv 4 years ago