the patriots loss that game fair. HELLO??? Sugar Bear had his hand all over the QB. Your gonna get call for roughing the passer every time no matter what era your on.
BawstonSports87 "choking? you mean how Brady gave us a 14-10 lead in SB 42 with 2:42 left, only to watch the Giants get bailed out by a miracle play. and the Pats weren't even a championship caliber team this past season, but Brady carried the Pats 31st ranked defense their. go buy some more tampons pussy."
Brady is a system QB who can't put the big games away. What you just described is a choke where the Patriots couldn't stop the Giants final drive. Twice now. Your tears, they are delicious.
what is so controversial about this???? that was easily....roughing the passer...i mean in those days in wasn't called a lot but that was a blow to the head ...done deal
@jaymac508 Your wrong. Blows to the QB's head in 1976 were generally only called if the hit was truly a late hit, or if it was an intentional hit trying to hurt the QB The hit here obviously wasn't late or an intentional vicious hit. . Back then the rule was completely different, and you're making the mistake of judging the play under TODAY'S rules. Hope I was able to help....are there any other rules or plays you also need help with?
@aaaredskin....Im not wrong and I'm not judging it by today's rules....today's rules he would of been fined and the penalty....your?? it is you are....and the fore arm was to the head right in front of the Ref... penalty...I'm not a Raiders fan either... even the NE homer guy who covers the Pats said "he kinda roughed the hell out of him" the only reason this is even controversial is what I said in my previous comment...Roughing the passer was uncommon in this Era but none the less IT WAS RTP
The Raiders screwed the Patriots in 1976 and the Patriots screwed the Raiders in 2001. Every team in the NFL gets screwed one way or another. How would the playoffs/championships look if calls were called differently? I guess we'll never know.
The Raiders get screwed over in #1 and #2 im a raiders fan i'm going to be honest that call was bad he couldnt stop himself he couldnt but the tuck was a fumble which is crap that they called an incomplete but this is just a bad call
It was roughing the passer, plain and simple. But it probably shouldn't have been called. Now, as far as the whole "why do Raider fans complain about the Tuck & Immaculate Rec., but are OK with this." it's because the Tuck was clearly a fumble (Brady had both hands on the ball), and even though the IR is too close to tell, the refs only ruled it a TD because they had no security for them in the stadium. I'll give you the Holy Roller though, it was clearly a flip forward.
Raider Fans Listen to Villapiano as its the Same thing with the Tuck Rule. Okay, The Patriots Got Screwed in 1976 and the Raiders Kinda Got Screwed in 2001. Neither Side is Sorry about it and Move ON
raiders got away with a lot of crap to. didnt the chargers get screwed to in a playoff game against the raiders? This just proves how much bias there are in sports.
I love how the raiders complain about The tuck and the Immaculate reception which were called correctly but in the ones on there side which were called wrong they try and say its perfect
@110superdude Quit your whining, dudette. In today's game where the QB is treated with kid's gloves, it would be roughing the passer. As for the golden age where you had to throw a punch to get a personal foul flag. Villapiano put it best. 'Was it called a lot those days? No. did it happen? yes.'
@110superdude No one forced you to. Stop acting like your god for uploading these videos. I've seen your other comments where you don't like someone's comment, so you tell them stop watching your videos.
@BlackKnight03 Well that's complete bullshit. By rule, the roughing the passer penalty applies to an action taken by the "rougher" after the the quarterback has released the ball, not something that happens before it is released and then ends in contact, which that clearly was. He was going up to block the pass and happened to fall into the guy, and the QB flopped. He started the motion before the QB released the ball, therefore it should have been no call.
@BlackKnight03 choking? you mean how Brady gave us a 14-10 lead in SB 42 with 2:42 left, only to watch the Giants get bailed out by a miracle play? and the Pats weren't even a championship caliber team this past season, but Brady carried the Pats 31st ranked defense there. go buy some more tampons pussy.
@110superdude how were they called correctly? do you know anything about football? Brady pump faked the ball in the tuck game so it shoud have been a fumble not a foward pass, and Frenchy Fuqua touched the ball before Franco Harris, and back then if one offensive player touches the ball another player on the same team cannot catch it. Pats fans are idiots, completely ignorant of the rules, Figures, all you guys have done is cheat, Spygate anyone??????? Go Giants
@110superdude I agree the immaculate reception was the right call, Tuck rule was complete bullshit. This one you can see the guys hand grabbing Stabler's face mask. It was the right call. But hey the Patriots got the Tuck Rule in return for this. I know your a Raider hater, but come on man you know that was the right call.
@charliepioneer I understand and agree. I'm fine with QB's getting hit and hit hard. There's no rule against hitting a qb. but there is a rule against hitting QB's in the head. i've seen every team penalized for doing this, including my own
I always hear people talk about how the NFL has "devolved" into a "pussy" league, and then I see plays like this that just make me laugh at the irony.
It's simple. Hamilton hit him BEFORE his throwing motion was through, it EFFECTED THE FLIGHT OF THE PASS (look at the receiver adjust his route to try and catch the fucking quail) !!!! Back in this time, you really had to be late to get a roughing the passer call, HAMILTON WASN'T EVEN LATE !!!!
This call: Bogus. He took a swipe to try and block the pass. He just brushed Stabler's head. Anyone who says this is a penalty is a wimp. The tuck rule was bogus too. But they were calling that tuck shit for Kurt Warner too in those days. I still didn't like the tuck rule. You drop the ball it's fair game. No tuck bullshit.
I'm not a fan of either team(Saints fan), and I know in gonna get some angry comments from Patriot fans, but I agree with Oakland, Ray Hamilton really roughed the hell outta Ken Stabler.
@Fettster777 Im a Raiders fan and even I dont get the calling for the number ten video it looks like it could go either way but this one is a ruffing the passer because the defender hit the Qb in the helmet thats why and the Tuck Rule is a bad call!
@Fettster777 The two games they lost were bigger. The #10 video was a regular season game. This was a wild card game. #1 was the AFC Championship game, while #2 was an AFC Divisional Round game.
Regardless, teams have "good luck" and "bad luck" on calls. The Raiders have had a lot of both...
You can't fumble the ball on purpose, he threw the ball forward which is a pass.The ball leaves your hand by throwing it which is an incomplete pass or a defender stripping the ball from you which is a fumble. He underhanded the ball forward, and luckily no one saw him do it. Fumbling the ball on purpose was not allowed, it says it in the video and Ken Stabler admitted that he flipped the ball forward. Why don't Raider fans admit that they got a break from the refs?
The Kraft family had had enough. They hire Bellichick who needs to win at any cost. He gets this 6th round draft pick Tom Brady right out of college and begins the 5-year cheating spree we all know as SPYGATE. Belichick gets fined $500,000 and keeps all 3 ill-gotten trophies. Not a bad deal. He makes that in one week. So much for the New England Patriots.
@patsfancc More disappointed at Goodells' cowardice in not ordering a forfeiture of those 3 ill-gotten 3-pt SB 'wins' and not banning Belichick for life from football like Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball for something less....much,much less. AND...if there is any justice in the world,the Pats will never EVER see another Lombardi so long as Brady or Belichick is still with them. Remember-you read it here first.
@tjrxk7 You do realize that every other team in the NFL until the 2007 season cheated too right? Im not trying to defend what the Pats did, but im sick of everyone saying that the trophies and championships are ill-gotten. If thats so then every teams championships before Spygate are ill-gotten as well.
@mattroberts53 Jeff Pash,the NFLs' executive Vice President said FOR EXAMPLE,the difference between the Patriots' and Broncos' spying cases was the extensiveness of New Englands'. To quote: "I think with any disciplinary action,you have to ficus on what exactly the facts are. Here we had,as best as we can conclude,a single incident as opposed to,in New England,YEARS (emphasis mine) of activity. You had an incident as best we can identify,was carried out by a single employee,without direction - -
@mattroberts53 - - from the coaching staff or anyone else at the club. That's obviously different from what we saw in New England where THE HEAD COACH WAS ACTIVELY SUPERVISING THE ACTIVITY." (emphasis mine)...So here we have Bill Bellichick supervising the activity for years and he is still working in the NFL? Am I the only one who thinks this makes zero sense? FYI - Pete Rose was banned for life by MLB for betting on his team. Pete Rose has nothing on you Mr.Bellichick. Nothing at all!!!
@tjrxk7 Trust me i agree 100% that Belichick was wrong in what he did, but im saying the whole Spygate was overblown. I have an article explaining why it was so overblown, and you might not take it seriously at first cause its from a website called patsfans.com, but it gives many good facts showing that what Belichick did was very common in the NFL he just shoulda stopped when first told to.
@mattroberts53 I've outlined the article you sent and trust me,you're either a New Englander & Pats fan {the two are hardly ever far apart} or a very naive football fan indeed. You still don't get it do you? What went on during the Spygate Era,circa 2001-2005,the extensive cheating lead DIRECTLY to three highly questionalble Super Bowl "wins". There is a word that Roger Goodell,spineless coward that he is,should have dealt such a horrendous sportscrime with : FORFEITURE. Forfeiture of all 3 SBs.
@tjrxk7 Can you give me any definitive proof that the Patriots were extensively cheating, or that any cheating that may have happened helped them win any games including those 3 super bowls? And yes i am both a New Englander and Pats fan.
@tiatrips Hamilton's forearm hitting the side of Stabler's helmet was totally inadvertant. Even Stabler himself said that wasn't a penaly. Raiders got a lucky break.
@fatcatsathat Makes sense. Usually blows to the head result in a penalty, even back then, but if it's inadvertant, it's usually ok. That's why I say questionable though. Thanks for clearing that up for me though.
Look at Atkinsons and Villapiano's reaction. Sure, tha's the way the ball bounces....that's life. But the Raiders and all their bad asses dodged a bullet that day.
Today that would have been a questionable call........back then, NO WAY !
@themilliondollararm Patriots dont bitch about this though. I have never seen a patriot fan (granted 40 years later) bitch about this. Yet there is not a SINGLE Raiders fan that wont mention the Tuck Rule. NOT ONE
Well what goes around comes around. When we got one back in 01-02 season in the afc divisional playoffs that was the year we won the superbowl. So that shows you vengence is mind say of the Lord.
To walrus it was difficult to live with then and before the mid 90s when we were even relevant again we were a laughing stock. So look what we had to go through vs your team then come back to us.
Well, it was roughing the passer. Technically it was a good call. Then again, the Raiders routinely got away with BS that was 100 times worse than that in those days, including in that game.
How is it difficult to live with If your patriots are the teams of the 2000s and won three super bowls. And you also have arguably the best quarterback in football. How heartbreaking is that??
I hate the Patriots, even pre-Brady/Belichick Patriots, but this call was pretty bad.
ThunderPower 1 day ago
the "Pass Rusher" can only hit him if he has two steps to get him.... he only took one step.... Im glad we got our revenge with the "Tuck Rule" :)
Italy619 1 day ago
the patriots loss that game fair. HELLO??? Sugar Bear had his hand all over the QB. Your gonna get call for roughing the passer every time no matter what era your on.
jr0904 4 days ago
This makes up for the Tuck Rule.
Call it even.
QBDogKiller 1 week ago 4
@QBDogKiller agreed
cherrypoppinpoptart 6 days ago
@QBDogKiller agreed
Italy619 1 day ago
@QBDogKiller are u mike vick?
JakeWillSmith 1 day ago
If the Steelers and Raiders didn't pay the referees they would have about two superbowls each
ez99xxx 1 week ago
BawstonSports87 "choking? you mean how Brady gave us a 14-10 lead in SB 42 with 2:42 left, only to watch the Giants get bailed out by a miracle play. and the Pats weren't even a championship caliber team this past season, but Brady carried the Pats 31st ranked defense their. go buy some more tampons pussy."
Brady is a system QB who can't put the big games away. What you just described is a choke where the Patriots couldn't stop the Giants final drive. Twice now. Your tears, they are delicious.
BlackKnight03 2 weeks ago
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SuperStrik9 3 weeks ago
what is so controversial about this???? that was easily....roughing the passer...i mean in those days in wasn't called a lot but that was a blow to the head ...done deal
jaymac508 3 weeks ago
@jaymac508 Your wrong. Blows to the QB's head in 1976 were generally only called if the hit was truly a late hit, or if it was an intentional hit trying to hurt the QB The hit here obviously wasn't late or an intentional vicious hit. . Back then the rule was completely different, and you're making the mistake of judging the play under TODAY'S rules. Hope I was able to help....are there any other rules or plays you also need help with?
aaaredskin 3 weeks ago
@aaaredskin....Im not wrong and I'm not judging it by today's rules....today's rules he would of been fined and the penalty....your?? it is you are....and the fore arm was to the head right in front of the Ref... penalty...I'm not a Raiders fan either... even the NE homer guy who covers the Pats said "he kinda roughed the hell out of him" the only reason this is even controversial is what I said in my previous comment...Roughing the passer was uncommon in this Era but none the less IT WAS RTP
jaymac508 3 weeks ago
Bob Ryan scares me
oogieboogiedoogie1 1 month ago
Where's #8?
oogieboogiedoogie1 1 month ago
@oogieboogiedoogie1....Number 8 is the Steelers SB XL...it is on there
jaymac508 3 weeks ago
@sal7t5 Go back to school raider fan
LoveThemBroncos 1 month ago
they got Skwewed!
maesta 1 month ago
The Raiders screwed the Patriots in 1976 and the Patriots screwed the Raiders in 2001. Every team in the NFL gets screwed one way or another. How would the playoffs/championships look if calls were called differently? I guess we'll never know.
Scarecrow2004 1 month ago
The funny thing is, this WOULD be called roughing the passer today...dumb NFL can't handle a little bruise anymore...
Tyrunner0097 1 month ago
The Raiders get screwed over in #1 and #2 im a raiders fan i'm going to be honest that call was bad he couldnt stop himself he couldnt but the tuck was a fumble which is crap that they called an incomplete but this is just a bad call
ThoseFiveJewz 1 month ago
It was roughing the passer, plain and simple. But it probably shouldn't have been called. Now, as far as the whole "why do Raider fans complain about the Tuck & Immaculate Rec., but are OK with this." it's because the Tuck was clearly a fumble (Brady had both hands on the ball), and even though the IR is too close to tell, the refs only ruled it a TD because they had no security for them in the stadium. I'll give you the Holy Roller though, it was clearly a flip forward.
meast99 1 month ago
Raider Fans Listen to Villapiano as its the Same thing with the Tuck Rule. Okay, The Patriots Got Screwed in 1976 and the Raiders Kinda Got Screwed in 2001. Neither Side is Sorry about it and Move ON
msmdude68 1 month ago
It was the 1976 Divisional Game. A Pretty Big error to Be Made by NFL Network! They Didn't Even Have a Wild Card Game in 1976!!!!
msmdude68 1 month ago
The Tuck Rule call makes us even Oakland. 76 was first blood. You had it coming.
dunskie 1 month ago
raiders got away with a lot of crap to. didnt the chargers get screwed to in a playoff game against the raiders? This just proves how much bias there are in sports.
535wer 1 month ago
Funny how the Raider fans love the BS calls when it helps them but hate the BS calls against them. Biased anyone?
FAITHandLOGIC 1 month ago
This may sound stupid, but I believe the tuck rule was payback for this game.
kevinc1001 1 month ago
@kevinc1001 I Like to Call It Revenge
msmdude68 1 month ago
This one loses its significance these days...you can't flip on the TV on Sundays without seeing a dozen questionable Roughing the Passer Calls.
sscstevo 1 month ago
@sscstevo I'm pretty sure the NFL is just trying to keep its star quarterbacks safe. No one would watch scrub backups play. Not that I like it...
cdg0219 1 month ago
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dmsports 1 month ago
The funny thing is that in today's NFL, that would get called for roughing the passer every time.
Teufeldolch 2 months ago
I love how the raiders complain about The tuck and the Immaculate reception which were called correctly but in the ones on there side which were called wrong they try and say its perfect
110superdude 2 months ago 17
@110superdude Quit your whining, dudette. In today's game where the QB is treated with kid's gloves, it would be roughing the passer. As for the golden age where you had to throw a punch to get a personal foul flag. Villapiano put it best. 'Was it called a lot those days? No. did it happen? yes.'
BlackKnight03 2 months ago 2
@BlackKnight03 your welcome for uploading this
110superdude 2 months ago
@110superdude 'you're' welcome.
BlackKnight03 2 months ago
@110superdude No one forced you to. Stop acting like your god for uploading these videos. I've seen your other comments where you don't like someone's comment, so you tell them stop watching your videos.
aliu1995 1 month ago
@110superdude go fucking delete it for all i care.
sal7t5 1 month ago
@BlackKnight03 He's not whining, he's pointing out that all Raiders fans do si whine.
NitroTractor 1 month ago
@BlackKnight03 Well that's complete bullshit. By rule, the roughing the passer penalty applies to an action taken by the "rougher" after the the quarterback has released the ball, not something that happens before it is released and then ends in contact, which that clearly was. He was going up to block the pass and happened to fall into the guy, and the QB flopped. He started the motion before the QB released the ball, therefore it should have been no call.
jaylay734 1 month ago
@BlackKnight03 quit your whining
BostonSports87 2 weeks ago
@BostonSports87 Quit choking to the Giants first
BlackKnight03 2 weeks ago
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BostonSports87 2 weeks ago
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@BlackKnight03 choking? you mean how Brady gave us a 14-10 lead in SB 42 with 2:42 left, only to watch the Giants get bailed out by a miracle play? and the Pats weren't even a championship caliber team this past season, but Brady carried the Pats 31st ranked defense there. go buy some more tampons pussy.
BostonSports87 2 weeks ago
So in 2001 when the tuck rule was used it was basically the NFL saying were sorry for screwing the patriots in 1976!
seattlefcfan11 1 month ago
@110superdude how were they called correctly? do you know anything about football? Brady pump faked the ball in the tuck game so it shoud have been a fumble not a foward pass, and Frenchy Fuqua touched the ball before Franco Harris, and back then if one offensive player touches the ball another player on the same team cannot catch it. Pats fans are idiots, completely ignorant of the rules, Figures, all you guys have done is cheat, Spygate anyone??????? Go Giants
zartanhatesyou 1 month ago
@110superdude I agree the immaculate reception was the right call, Tuck rule was complete bullshit. This one you can see the guys hand grabbing Stabler's face mask. It was the right call. But hey the Patriots got the Tuck Rule in return for this. I know your a Raider hater, but come on man you know that was the right call.
ALeXZaHoS 1 month ago
@110superdude so, hitting the qb in the head... is not roughing?
raiderrocker18 1 week ago
@raiderrocker18 Nope
110superdude 1 week ago
@raiderrocker18 put a helmet on and have someone hit it while your moving away
its like being hit with a pillow
stop bitching
charliepioneer 1 day ago
@charliepioneer are we discussing pain thresholds or NFL rules?
raiderrocker18 1 day ago
@raiderrocker18 what i mean by it is that its not excessive or late. and qbs with the ball they are gonna get hit like everyone else
charliepioneer 20 hours ago
@charliepioneer I understand and agree. I'm fine with QB's getting hit and hit hard. There's no rule against hitting a qb. but there is a rule against hitting QB's in the head. i've seen every team penalized for doing this, including my own
raiderrocker18 1 hour ago
I always hear people talk about how the NFL has "devolved" into a "pussy" league, and then I see plays like this that just make me laugh at the irony.
matrixphijr 2 months ago
Why in all of these controversial calls does the team end up going to the superbowl and win...hmmm?
JOHNCAL225 2 months ago
@JOHNCAL225 the 72 steelers didnt win
vadimzdonutube 2 months ago
I hate the patriots since i'm a raiders fan this call is so strange roughing the passer you got to be kidding me Go Eagles
vincethegoat1 2 months ago
Now that would be an easy call blow to the head of a QB 15 yd
grinningchicken 2 months ago
@grinningchicken Not 35 years ago
ROTakeshi 2 months ago
Shitty call. Shitty, shitty call.
cochranexyz 2 months ago
It's simple. Hamilton hit him BEFORE his throwing motion was through, it EFFECTED THE FLIGHT OF THE PASS (look at the receiver adjust his route to try and catch the fucking quail) !!!! Back in this time, you really had to be late to get a roughing the passer call, HAMILTON WASN'T EVEN LATE !!!!
bwdrums1 2 months ago
Seriously that was called? and I hate the Patriots. That's was BS. Glad I wasn't the Pats coach at that time.
clipobserver 3 months ago
In TODAY'S NFL . . . that play would be Roughing the Passer, via a blow to the head.
IT was a bullshid call back then, but these days, that play would get called as roughing. Just shows you how pansy the NFL is now.
finisher3x 3 months ago
funny how 24 years later pats get the tuck rule and win their SB lol Im a raider fan I find that funny. Payback is a bitch.
unlimitedsupra 4 months ago
i don't give a crap what patroit fans think we raider fans loved the call and went to the super bowl Go Raiders
vincethegoat1 4 months ago
Ya know in football today that would have been a hit to the helmet of the qb and a call every time.
eastsidewillyb 4 months ago
The Tuck Rule, and this penalty are all complete bullshit. I see him brushing Stabler's head, which is something you see in the NFL to this day.
HaloElitesrule 4 months ago
Patsies got hosed.
dbsommers1 4 months ago
This call: Bogus. He took a swipe to try and block the pass. He just brushed Stabler's head. Anyone who says this is a penalty is a wimp. The tuck rule was bogus too. But they were calling that tuck shit for Kurt Warner too in those days. I still didn't like the tuck rule. You drop the ball it's fair game. No tuck bullshit.
mikeycereal 4 months ago
now all you raider fans can shut the fuck up about the tuck rule .
Ajwmsaguitarman 4 months ago
@Ajwmsaguitarman when you give back the superbowl rings for cheating, we will gladly forget the tuck rule.
gamerofmythology 4 months ago
I'm not a fan of either team(Saints fan), and I know in gonna get some angry comments from Patriot fans, but I agree with Oakland, Ray Hamilton really roughed the hell outta Ken Stabler.
MrJLov13 5 months ago
Why are all the Raiders guys all upset in vids for #1 and #2 about calls but the this and the vid for #10 were on their side?
Fettster777 5 months ago 10
@Fettster777 because of the situation. and how big the final impact of the calls were... durrrrrrr
adguerra9 3 months ago
@Fettster777 Im a Raiders fan and even I dont get the calling for the number ten video it looks like it could go either way but this one is a ruffing the passer because the defender hit the Qb in the helmet thats why and the Tuck Rule is a bad call!
RaiderArmy20 3 months ago
Cause the tuck play was the biggest piece of bullshit ever called
The510CARLOS 3 months ago
@The510CARLOS the tuck rule shoulda been number 1
sal7t5 1 month ago
@Fettster777 the top two most controversial calls are against the same team and that doesnt show a red flag? TOP TWO
zartanhatesyou 1 month ago
@Fettster777 because 97% of raider fans are legally retarded
LoveThemBroncos 1 month ago
@LoveThemBroncos Talk shit about the Raiders but how you like them Patriots in the play offs retard.
sal7t5 1 month ago
@Fettster777 The two games they lost were bigger. The #10 video was a regular season game. This was a wild card game. #1 was the AFC Championship game, while #2 was an AFC Divisional Round game.
Regardless, teams have "good luck" and "bad luck" on calls. The Raiders have had a lot of both...
faceurhell 1 month ago
@Fettster777 the holy roller was a good call and because the tuck rule was bs the imaculate reception I won't say eather way it's impossible to tell.
darkridge123 4 weeks ago
@darkridge123
With the Holy Roller, Ken Stabler admitted that he threw the ball forward and that it was a horrible call.
patsrule213 2 weeks ago
@patsrule213 No he said he fumbled it on purpose it was legal back then.
darkridge123 2 weeks ago
@darkridge123
You can't fumble the ball on purpose, he threw the ball forward which is a pass.The ball leaves your hand by throwing it which is an incomplete pass or a defender stripping the ball from you which is a fumble. He underhanded the ball forward, and luckily no one saw him do it. Fumbling the ball on purpose was not allowed, it says it in the video and Ken Stabler admitted that he flipped the ball forward. Why don't Raider fans admit that they got a break from the refs?
patsrule213 2 weeks ago
@patsrule213 the ball was tucked it wasn't a forword pass.
darkridge123 2 weeks ago
This call pained me deeply for 25 years until the tuck rule call. Finally it seemed justice was served.
DKPS22 5 months ago
The Kraft family had had enough. They hire Bellichick who needs to win at any cost. He gets this 6th round draft pick Tom Brady right out of college and begins the 5-year cheating spree we all know as SPYGATE. Belichick gets fined $500,000 and keeps all 3 ill-gotten trophies. Not a bad deal. He makes that in one week. So much for the New England Patriots.
tjrxk7 5 months ago
@tjrxk7 you mad bro?
patsfancc 5 months ago
@patsfancc More disappointed at Goodells' cowardice in not ordering a forfeiture of those 3 ill-gotten 3-pt SB 'wins' and not banning Belichick for life from football like Pete Rose was banned for life from baseball for something less....much,much less. AND...if there is any justice in the world,the Pats will never EVER see another Lombardi so long as Brady or Belichick is still with them. Remember-you read it here first.
tjrxk7 5 months ago
@tjrxk7 fuckin a right
evilstatic 3 months ago
@tjrxk7 You do realize that every other team in the NFL until the 2007 season cheated too right? Im not trying to defend what the Pats did, but im sick of everyone saying that the trophies and championships are ill-gotten. If thats so then every teams championships before Spygate are ill-gotten as well.
mattroberts53 3 months ago
@mattroberts53 Jeff Pash,the NFLs' executive Vice President said FOR EXAMPLE,the difference between the Patriots' and Broncos' spying cases was the extensiveness of New Englands'. To quote: "I think with any disciplinary action,you have to ficus on what exactly the facts are. Here we had,as best as we can conclude,a single incident as opposed to,in New England,YEARS (emphasis mine) of activity. You had an incident as best we can identify,was carried out by a single employee,without direction - -
tjrxk7 3 months ago
@mattroberts53 - - from the coaching staff or anyone else at the club. That's obviously different from what we saw in New England where THE HEAD COACH WAS ACTIVELY SUPERVISING THE ACTIVITY." (emphasis mine)...So here we have Bill Bellichick supervising the activity for years and he is still working in the NFL? Am I the only one who thinks this makes zero sense? FYI - Pete Rose was banned for life by MLB for betting on his team. Pete Rose has nothing on you Mr.Bellichick. Nothing at all!!!
tjrxk7 3 months ago
@tjrxk7 Trust me i agree 100% that Belichick was wrong in what he did, but im saying the whole Spygate was overblown. I have an article explaining why it was so overblown, and you might not take it seriously at first cause its from a website called patsfans.com, but it gives many good facts showing that what Belichick did was very common in the NFL he just shoulda stopped when first told to.
mattroberts53 3 months ago
@mattroberts53 I've outlined the article you sent and trust me,you're either a New Englander & Pats fan {the two are hardly ever far apart} or a very naive football fan indeed. You still don't get it do you? What went on during the Spygate Era,circa 2001-2005,the extensive cheating lead DIRECTLY to three highly questionalble Super Bowl "wins". There is a word that Roger Goodell,spineless coward that he is,should have dealt such a horrendous sportscrime with : FORFEITURE. Forfeiture of all 3 SBs.
tjrxk7 3 months ago
@tjrxk7 Can you give me any definitive proof that the Patriots were extensively cheating, or that any cheating that may have happened helped them win any games including those 3 super bowls? And yes i am both a New Englander and Pats fan.
mattroberts53 3 months ago
i think he would have been ok if he hadn't had his forearm right in Stabler's face. Still questionable, but that's only reason I see for the call.
tiatrips 6 months ago
@tiatrips Hamilton's forearm hitting the side of Stabler's helmet was totally inadvertant. Even Stabler himself said that wasn't a penaly. Raiders got a lucky break.
fatcatsathat 5 months ago
@fatcatsathat Makes sense. Usually blows to the head result in a penalty, even back then, but if it's inadvertant, it's usually ok. That's why I say questionable though. Thanks for clearing that up for me though.
tiatrips 5 months ago
Look at Atkinsons and Villapiano's reaction. Sure, tha's the way the ball bounces....that's life. But the Raiders and all their bad asses dodged a bullet that day.
Today that would have been a questionable call........back then, NO WAY !
6400az 6 months ago
He looked liked he roughed the passer.
KWCline91 6 months ago
Bob Ryan's reaction is hilarious... haha
gatorgolfer72 6 months ago
@gatorgolfer72 lol, "They got SCREWED!!"
GearsTony 6 months ago
raiders have the Penalty patriots have the Tuck. so both sides should call it even
themilliondollararm 6 months ago 5
@themilliondollararm haha deal
Raiderfan123 6 months ago
@themilliondollararm Patriots dont bitch about this though. I have never seen a patriot fan (granted 40 years later) bitch about this. Yet there is not a SINGLE Raiders fan that wont mention the Tuck Rule. NOT ONE
HarbingerGunner 5 months ago
Well what goes around comes around. When we got one back in 01-02 season in the afc divisional playoffs that was the year we won the superbowl. So that shows you vengence is mind say of the Lord.
343MusicProductions 6 months ago
To walrus it was difficult to live with then and before the mid 90s when we were even relevant again we were a laughing stock. So look what we had to go through vs your team then come back to us.
343MusicProductions 6 months ago
Awful call . How much did the raiders personnel upstairs pay the league because that's the only explanations I have for that one. Hehe oh boy wow!!!
343MusicProductions 6 months ago
0:35 LMAO
YouGayTubes 6 months ago
Well, it was roughing the passer. Technically it was a good call. Then again, the Raiders routinely got away with BS that was 100 times worse than that in those days, including in that game.
HermFontenot 7 months ago
Dear Gil Santos,
How is it difficult to live with If your patriots are the teams of the 2000s and won three super bowls. And you also have arguably the best quarterback in football. How heartbreaking is that??
walruswalrus87 7 months ago
he hit him WHILE he was throwing.... thats horrible... the contact to the QBs head is just recently a rule
illinoispalmtree8 7 months ago
its funny how now he would get fined for that...
speranzayaya 7 months ago
Well the Patriots ancestors would enjoy their revenge 25 years later when the 2001 AFC Divisional Playoffs rolled around; Patriots vs. Raiders again.
Only this time the bad call would go against the Raiders.
VanillaLimeCoke 8 months ago 2
Terrible call!!
sosdkny 8 months ago
I know games have to be played out but just like the 1972 Olympic basketball sham, teams should just walk away after a call like that.
realityright 8 months ago
when the raiders say a cal that benefited them was bad...then it was REALLY bad
fresh2deafbill 10 months ago
its ok. the patriots got 1 back on them in 2002
philliyfanbo 10 months ago
yeah BS call, but the last guy was acting like it traumatized them lol
justchilln6190 11 months ago