I think it could work I hope it passes and doesent fuck us over I mean what else can we do we elected these people into office if people voted then maybe we would have people that don't fuck us over as bad dame it's your own damed faults if you don't vote or voted for him your faults.
our healthcare system is better than yours according to the world health organisation, we have a more democratic system than your 2 party bigotry, we have less corruption due to no lobbying, we live longer as a "consequence of our healthcare." sounds about right.
oh and while were on the subject of healthcare, i've never EVER waited more than a week for surgery and seeing a doctor /physician was almost always on the same day oh and i got to chose which one too, numbnuts.
works great in canada why not here,fuck,insurance companys tell me what medications i can or cant have even if a doctor said i need it,so fuck all you neysayers,it cant get any worse than it is now,health care is for the rich so let them keep paying and make it free for everybody else
Sorry to burst your bubble. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the U.S. for health care? Because it sucks in Canada! You are obviously one of the Obama koolaid suckers. You sound like a typical liberal democrat crying I want it for free!!! Let the working class pay for all of my stuff. America will go bankrupt under Obama and his cohorts, Pelosi and Reid and the rest of the liberal democrats in control. Wait a few years and make another comment and let me know how you like change.
do a research about canadian citizens going to the us for treatment, then do a research about american citizens taking "vacations in india" for cheaper healthcare.
i am canadian, what you say is a complete lie and i am more qualified to talk because well, I ACTUALLY LIVE HERE.
also, the few that go to the us for care are covered by the canadian government cause it pays if the operation is urgent. do some research you redneck dumbass,,,
OK so you know all there is to know about YOUR health care system. I know that what obama is proposing will lead us down the path to financial ruin. BTW if you can figure this out ESAD!
also, we do have voting rights; we are a democratic country just like every single fucking member of the g8. Unlike you, we have a minority government (lookup what that means cause i fear that you might need a while to figure that out.) I know about YOUR healthcare system fairly enough ( due to some family who used to practice in upper maine but irrelevant)
to say that you guys are in BAD shape. the who ranks you 37th, our healthcare (which harpers conservatives are negating and fucking up) is
let the working class pay for the army, police, firefighters, post and bailout banks and corporations cause of a redneck dipshit president called bush thought taking off regulations and giving tax breaks to the rich would help then it backfired on him, but it is hell on earth when obama wants to throw out a PUBLIC OPTION that is voluntary.
you know, there is a reason why canada has a longer life expectancy rate, we don't let the wolf die off the pack when its down, your video is hypocritical
I'm just a bit confused, if you are a citizen of Canada why do you even give a fuck what we are doing here? My feelings about Canada's health care system are "If that is what you want then go for it". When you become a citizen of the great USA and have voting rights then you can criticize our government, until then, stfu. Oh I almost forgot, since I don't agree with Obama I MUST be a Racist. Tired of all you asswipes thinking that. Again ESAD.
first of all, i didn't call you a racist and as for having interest in american affairs, i have a hobby in political science. In doing so, i've seen a-lot from both sides of the argument and what you republicans are pushing is an outright farce, so much that the whole developed world is looking at you while pointing and laughing, at first it was hate cause of bush fucking everything up but now with the stuff you guys are making up based off fox news and limbaugh, it's hard not to laugh.
capitalism and social democracy working together? OH NOES THEY WILL KILL OUR GRANDMAS!!! Tell me, have any of your "representatives (republicans) even read the bill, in fact; name me your congressman and in under 5 minutes ill show you that he took money from healthcare companies in order to influence his decision on the public option, one more thing in canada that we have is that lobbyists cant give out thousands to politicians, its 500$ maximum therefor waaaaay less corruption.
the great usa, is not so great, the thing is the whole world despises your country because of specifically christian right moronic republicans like you, whos reasoning amounts to a stubborn mule.
maybe it's time for you to actually do some research and come back to me with valid sources and maybe then, just maybe; you may add up to my knees in credibility.
until then; enjoy your already bankrupt country with the patriot act, the same exact kind of act hitler passed in 1938, have a good day!
Do you know how many Canadians immigrate to America & why is so much of your population on the border with the U.S.?
Also has anyone read about the forced consumption of Canadian shows,music & other crap to there own people becuz they dony like the fact people over there are addicted to anything American.
LoL
And dont get me started on the tons of Canadians coming over here for medical attention and willing to pay to get it now.
do you have the stats of that? i'd like to see them, all i know is over half a million americans came to canada since 1991 (i don't know for sure if it's valid or not, just sayin') so bring me the stats.
that said, anyone would get the logic as to why canadians are close to the southern border. 1. water currents (st laurent river an so on) 2. less cold than fucking yellowknife. 3. able to farm during summer, in fact theres many many other reasons that have nothing to do with the us.
but no, it has to be the us interests cause, we always listen to you guys; which is why we went in iraq and vietnam and which is why were a union right now and not yelling at our government to opt out of it, oh wait...
face it, your imperialist douchebaggary gives you a HUGE bias, you know nothing about canadian or british healthcare so ill ask you to do a bit of research (you may find that in the cia world factbook : orthocubanDOTcom/2009/08/healthcare-and-the-cia-world-factbook/
30th in that list. france is first and i believe germany, england and italy are in the top 10 (all socialist medical systems btw.)
Rationing exists in the us except over there, its called (denial of healthcare due to X:reason.)
we pay a combined of 13.8 percent tax in canada (varies per salary of course) which includes provincial tax (kinda like state taxes) alberta only has a 6% (their vast oil resources allow them to have that) now, why isn't alberta spreading the wealth, could it be?
Like I said, if your health care plan works for you that is great. What our lying cheating money grubbing politicians are proposing here will throw a lot of us middle class taxpayers into 40% or higher tax rate. I agree that lobbying is a huge part of the problem and I never give to pac funds because I do not think that money should be the deciding factor.
i read part of the bill btw (never really searched for the full thing, it is probably on the net somewhere) but from what i saw, it would raise taxes from 1-5% to people making over 250 000$, not "middle class families (which are 30 000 - 80 000 per person ) this is 250 000$ per person, you might want to look into that; now that you are somewhat polite cause i guess you are doing some research now i will give you the same respect you show me, i at least owe you that.
When I read this comment I thought maybe we could carry on a respectable conversation of the politics in the USA, Then I read the last one you sent so all I can say is this is over. I will leave all of the comments you posted so America can see how moronic some people are. One more thing, how do the politicians figure that a program that will cost about 900 billion dollars will not add to the deficit or not raise taxes? Must be that new math class I cut back in high school.
read my second to last comment that talks about how the taxes are really gonna be raised for the public option, i said it before and i'll say it again; it raises taxes by 1-5% for people making over 250 000$ per year thats per 1 person, thats waaay above middle class; you call me moronic but you can't find a source to support your argument at all, i bet you did some research and found out that i am not pulling these numbers out of my ass.
Obama Already lied about that campaign Promise and thats just a fact so taxes will eventually be raised on everybody and healthcare would suck and be like Britains or Canada's nothing more than diminished quality and high taxes for everyone and i wouldnt be surpsied if they banned smoking or drinking becuz hey they are paying for it so we are not considered humans just money making machines that should be making a profit not a deficit.
i'll await a better answer than ''you guys are jealous yo!'' no ones jealous of your country, we detest the redneck incult side of your political affiliances, but we want you to prospoer so bad like a retarded kid
Look I'm an american too and I would appreciate if you wouldn't lump me in with the rest of these redneck morons. Some of us actually have a clue (not many but, hey.)
raising the taxes higher by 40% will not affect politicians salaries unless they somehow passed a bill to give themselves more money or it would be an illegal scandal ( at least it would be here)
a good thing to completely throw out the idea of a deficit, you can tell insurance companies to pay 10% of their profits into the public option (this would make up for high prices in private hospitals and would fund a good part of the healthcare system)
In canada, 30% of healthcare is funded by the private sector, this is why we had no deficit (until now cause the conservatives fucked up...)
the conservatives gave 50 billion dollars to oil companies like morons instead of keeping it as a safety insurance to deficits, now our debt is going to rise up to 580 billion dollars in the next 6 years from its 510 earlier. i dare you to come up here to see how it really is, at least that way americans would find out that their public option is something beautiful, but by all means spend 2.5 trillion on insurance companies, please.
Ok, step away from the Kool-Aid.... Sorry but I do not believe that Obamacare will be looking out for grandma. Some decisions will be made that will be bad for our older generation. I believe it will cost taxpayers trillions of dollars and bring this country to the brink of bankruptcy. You have the right to believe what you want because we are a free country, I just don't feel the same way you do. Like my bumper stickers says, "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
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TheMrBlinx 1 year ago
I think it could work I hope it passes and doesent fuck us over I mean what else can we do we elected these people into office if people voted then maybe we would have people that don't fuck us over as bad dame it's your own damed faults if you don't vote or voted for him your faults.
GUNS4MIKE1234 1 year ago
Please vist taxpayeranthem. Enjoy!
taxpayeranthem 2 years ago
so lets review this
our healthcare system is better than yours according to the world health organisation, we have a more democratic system than your 2 party bigotry, we have less corruption due to no lobbying, we live longer as a "consequence of our healthcare." sounds about right.
oh and while were on the subject of healthcare, i've never EVER waited more than a week for surgery and seeing a doctor /physician was almost always on the same day oh and i got to chose which one too, numbnuts.
ziomany 2 years ago
works great in canada why not here,fuck,insurance companys tell me what medications i can or cant have even if a doctor said i need it,so fuck all you neysayers,it cant get any worse than it is now,health care is for the rich so let them keep paying and make it free for everybody else
semiLivedj 2 years ago
Sorry to burst your bubble. Why do you think so many Canadians come to the U.S. for health care? Because it sucks in Canada! You are obviously one of the Obama koolaid suckers. You sound like a typical liberal democrat crying I want it for free!!! Let the working class pay for all of my stuff. America will go bankrupt under Obama and his cohorts, Pelosi and Reid and the rest of the liberal democrats in control. Wait a few years and make another comment and let me know how you like change.
scrapman74 2 years ago
oh this will be bitter sweet.
do a research about canadian citizens going to the us for treatment, then do a research about american citizens taking "vacations in india" for cheaper healthcare.
i am canadian, what you say is a complete lie and i am more qualified to talk because well, I ACTUALLY LIVE HERE.
also, the few that go to the us for care are covered by the canadian government cause it pays if the operation is urgent. do some research you redneck dumbass,,,
ziomany 2 years ago
OK so you know all there is to know about YOUR health care system. I know that what obama is proposing will lead us down the path to financial ruin. BTW if you can figure this out ESAD!
scrapman74 2 years ago
also, we do have voting rights; we are a democratic country just like every single fucking member of the g8. Unlike you, we have a minority government (lookup what that means cause i fear that you might need a while to figure that out.) I know about YOUR healthcare system fairly enough ( due to some family who used to practice in upper maine but irrelevant)
to say that you guys are in BAD shape. the who ranks you 37th, our healthcare (which harpers conservatives are negating and fucking up) is
ziomany 2 years ago
let the working class pay for the army, police, firefighters, post and bailout banks and corporations cause of a redneck dipshit president called bush thought taking off regulations and giving tax breaks to the rich would help then it backfired on him, but it is hell on earth when obama wants to throw out a PUBLIC OPTION that is voluntary.
you know, there is a reason why canada has a longer life expectancy rate, we don't let the wolf die off the pack when its down, your video is hypocritical
ziomany 2 years ago
I'm just a bit confused, if you are a citizen of Canada why do you even give a fuck what we are doing here? My feelings about Canada's health care system are "If that is what you want then go for it". When you become a citizen of the great USA and have voting rights then you can criticize our government, until then, stfu. Oh I almost forgot, since I don't agree with Obama I MUST be a Racist. Tired of all you asswipes thinking that. Again ESAD.
scrapman74 2 years ago
first of all, i didn't call you a racist and as for having interest in american affairs, i have a hobby in political science. In doing so, i've seen a-lot from both sides of the argument and what you republicans are pushing is an outright farce, so much that the whole developed world is looking at you while pointing and laughing, at first it was hate cause of bush fucking everything up but now with the stuff you guys are making up based off fox news and limbaugh, it's hard not to laugh.
ziomany 2 years ago
capitalism and social democracy working together? OH NOES THEY WILL KILL OUR GRANDMAS!!! Tell me, have any of your "representatives (republicans) even read the bill, in fact; name me your congressman and in under 5 minutes ill show you that he took money from healthcare companies in order to influence his decision on the public option, one more thing in canada that we have is that lobbyists cant give out thousands to politicians, its 500$ maximum therefor waaaaay less corruption.
ziomany 2 years ago
the great usa, is not so great, the thing is the whole world despises your country because of specifically christian right moronic republicans like you, whos reasoning amounts to a stubborn mule.
maybe it's time for you to actually do some research and come back to me with valid sources and maybe then, just maybe; you may add up to my knees in credibility.
until then; enjoy your already bankrupt country with the patriot act, the same exact kind of act hitler passed in 1938, have a good day!
ziomany 2 years ago
Hey a Canadian, Being Jealous as always.
Do you know how many Canadians immigrate to America & why is so much of your population on the border with the U.S.?
Also has anyone read about the forced consumption of Canadian shows,music & other crap to there own people becuz they dony like the fact people over there are addicted to anything American.
LoL
And dont get me started on the tons of Canadians coming over here for medical attention and willing to pay to get it now.
MrHairyNutz 2 years ago
do you have the stats of that? i'd like to see them, all i know is over half a million americans came to canada since 1991 (i don't know for sure if it's valid or not, just sayin') so bring me the stats.
that said, anyone would get the logic as to why canadians are close to the southern border. 1. water currents (st laurent river an so on) 2. less cold than fucking yellowknife. 3. able to farm during summer, in fact theres many many other reasons that have nothing to do with the us.
ziomany 2 years ago
So if you get the stats you'll believe? you're kidding,right!
You believe what you choose to believe.facts just get in the way!
albermarle19 2 years ago
@albermarle19 i stated stuff that can be validated, why don't you just try me.
ziomany 2 years ago
but no, it has to be the us interests cause, we always listen to you guys; which is why we went in iraq and vietnam and which is why were a union right now and not yelling at our government to opt out of it, oh wait...
face it, your imperialist douchebaggary gives you a HUGE bias, you know nothing about canadian or british healthcare so ill ask you to do a bit of research (you may find that in the cia world factbook : orthocubanDOTcom/2009/08/healthcare-and-the-cia-world-factbook/
ziomany 2 years ago
30th in that list. france is first and i believe germany, england and italy are in the top 10 (all socialist medical systems btw.)
Rationing exists in the us except over there, its called (denial of healthcare due to X:reason.)
we pay a combined of 13.8 percent tax in canada (varies per salary of course) which includes provincial tax (kinda like state taxes) alberta only has a 6% (their vast oil resources allow them to have that) now, why isn't alberta spreading the wealth, could it be?
ziomany 2 years ago
Like I said, if your health care plan works for you that is great. What our lying cheating money grubbing politicians are proposing here will throw a lot of us middle class taxpayers into 40% or higher tax rate. I agree that lobbying is a huge part of the problem and I never give to pac funds because I do not think that money should be the deciding factor.
scrapman74 2 years ago
i read part of the bill btw (never really searched for the full thing, it is probably on the net somewhere) but from what i saw, it would raise taxes from 1-5% to people making over 250 000$, not "middle class families (which are 30 000 - 80 000 per person ) this is 250 000$ per person, you might want to look into that; now that you are somewhat polite cause i guess you are doing some research now i will give you the same respect you show me, i at least owe you that.
ziomany 2 years ago
When I read this comment I thought maybe we could carry on a respectable conversation of the politics in the USA, Then I read the last one you sent so all I can say is this is over. I will leave all of the comments you posted so America can see how moronic some people are. One more thing, how do the politicians figure that a program that will cost about 900 billion dollars will not add to the deficit or not raise taxes? Must be that new math class I cut back in high school.
scrapman74 2 years ago
read my second to last comment that talks about how the taxes are really gonna be raised for the public option, i said it before and i'll say it again; it raises taxes by 1-5% for people making over 250 000$ per year thats per 1 person, thats waaay above middle class; you call me moronic but you can't find a source to support your argument at all, i bet you did some research and found out that i am not pulling these numbers out of my ass.
ziomany 2 years ago
Obama Already lied about that campaign Promise and thats just a fact so taxes will eventually be raised on everybody and healthcare would suck and be like Britains or Canada's nothing more than diminished quality and high taxes for everyone and i wouldnt be surpsied if they banned smoking or drinking becuz hey they are paying for it so we are not considered humans just money making machines that should be making a profit not a deficit.
MrHairyNutz 2 years ago
i'll await a better answer than ''you guys are jealous yo!'' no ones jealous of your country, we detest the redneck incult side of your political affiliances, but we want you to prospoer so bad like a retarded kid
ziomany 2 years ago
Look I'm an american too and I would appreciate if you wouldn't lump me in with the rest of these redneck morons. Some of us actually have a clue (not many but, hey.)
Kerridor3 2 years ago
raising the taxes higher by 40% will not affect politicians salaries unless they somehow passed a bill to give themselves more money or it would be an illegal scandal ( at least it would be here)
ziomany 2 years ago
politicaltickerDOTblogsDOTcnnDOTcom/2009/09/09/obama-health-care-reform-will-not-increase-deficit/
a good thing to completely throw out the idea of a deficit, you can tell insurance companies to pay 10% of their profits into the public option (this would make up for high prices in private hospitals and would fund a good part of the healthcare system)
In canada, 30% of healthcare is funded by the private sector, this is why we had no deficit (until now cause the conservatives fucked up...)
ziomany 2 years ago
the conservatives gave 50 billion dollars to oil companies like morons instead of keeping it as a safety insurance to deficits, now our debt is going to rise up to 580 billion dollars in the next 6 years from its 510 earlier. i dare you to come up here to see how it really is, at least that way americans would find out that their public option is something beautiful, but by all means spend 2.5 trillion on insurance companies, please.
ziomany 2 years ago
What are the lyrics to that song?
Jonnybegood1213 2 years ago
Ok, step away from the Kool-Aid.... Sorry but I do not believe that Obamacare will be looking out for grandma. Some decisions will be made that will be bad for our older generation. I believe it will cost taxpayers trillions of dollars and bring this country to the brink of bankruptcy. You have the right to believe what you want because we are a free country, I just don't feel the same way you do. Like my bumper stickers says, "If you think health care is expensive now, wait until it's free!"
scrapman74 2 years ago
An unfortunate truth, you have to laugh not to cry
UnpoliticalcorrectJo 2 years ago
pelosi...what a clueless idiot doesnt even know when she's being insulted.
stonescourt3 2 years ago 2
Yeah. everyone knows our military flies the symbols of our enemies, right?
ponyboy316 2 years ago
HA! Great stuff
cvidal07 2 years ago 2