They´ll just lie and tell that NATO occupied them, forced them to learn english and that during all those years they where in favour of Russian coming back all along.
stupid estonians you were a colony since 600 years and you still think your something different, look at the people who life in that country its 25% Russians that cant vote and are non citizen this is so ridiculous. No wonder Russia is so pissed off, but things are gonna change anyways Russia is already the forth largest economy in europe and in 2016 it will be the second largest go look up if you dont believing me.
I just watched this video first time. I live in Estonia and i'm estonian but i still think that Mart Laar and Lagle Parek over-dramatized the situation. I do not believe that Russia prepare to invasion and i do not afarid it. I have many russian friends and they do not believe it also. Cmon guys it's 21 century. Estonia is part of NATO and European Union. Do you still think that Russia may occupy this country? I don't think so.
Search on youtube: Colin Powell Russia. The former US Foreign Minister made a famous statement, "Russia would never be again USSR b/c it failed at the Box Office!"
@feardot i spend about an hour today reading all the comments about April 2007 riot and everything else...a this is the first one with common sence! Thank you!)
Okkeyy, im the slavic barbarian whose country sent first man into space, won WW2, conquered 1/7 of the world, became one of the most influential countries, invented video and colored photography, and had your nazi baltic states under its command for over 200 years before the formation of USSR. But I guess our accomplishments are barbaric and so is our unique culture, but Baltic people are so good, so pure, so innocent compared to barbaric Russians who drink water and plan world domination.
Russia gave up their territories during the rise of Lenin, we were supposed to give all those Nazi Baltic states to kaiser Germany, but the war was over, Germany had lost and your Nazi states were given self determination. When did you kill 25.000 of communists huh? Where do you get such facts, Estonian Wikipedia? I know the history and I can tell that your Baltic state never killed even over 5.000 Russians. Perhaps for over 200 and later on 50 years of occupation, you might've killed so many RU
You know what? I won't bother arguing with you. I'v read some of the so called "history books" you "people" use in schools. I can safely say you honestly don't know any better. I would suggest you to read an unbiased history book before you come talking to me about history.
This is not just Russian history books, in fact I read French and Spanish books as well, somehow they say the same thing as Russian books.
I guess it is so called "CONSPIRACY AGAINST PEACEFUL AND FRIENDLY BALTIC STATES"
Don't worry kid I know history and I've been in Latvia. I said that i was Russian and the waiter refused to even come near me. If you assholes like to live off Russian gas and oil I would suggest you improve your behavior, or you might really get invaded.
Oh yeah and why do they call our leader alexander nevsky for nothing. it was 4 months since i posted this comment, do you really need to comment on post this old?
BTW Russians never fought against Estonia. The pact between Molotov and Ribbentrop, promised Russia all Baltic states without struggle. Then Baltic Nazi partisans started their long unsuccessful struggle for independence, they never killed 150.000 Russians because you Nazis are afraid of even touching a gun, since the beginning of the time Baltic people only cry like babies.
Such a stupid assumption, staling purged 2/3 of best russian generals, back at the time. Today estonians are nothing, just a bridge to europe and other baltic states.
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I grew up in in Latvia. Spend there 10 years of my life.
I've been to estonia and lithuania too.
My personal experience for my Latvian "motherland" is that they are so anti-Russian, that they border on Nazism. Which goes especially for estonia.
I hope Russia builds that pipeline going through the Baltic sea and build that new port to stop shipping goods through those 3 countries and let them be all anti-Russian they want. Like 5-6 millions live there but more shit talking than anyone else.
If Russia invades Estonia again, please try fight back! Even if you knew that you would lose... We did that and see, we Finns live in a well-fare state now.
I can't really say we were in an equal position. There were 5x more times Finns and the natural borders were strong and Finland was easier to protect. Fighting against a nation with a population ca 200 times bigger than yours seems to be a dangerous thing if your nation can easily face extinction and the bigger simply wants to destroy you. It was definitely a right thing to do for Estonia to stay neutral. Had we stayed neutral, we would have been on the Nazi side (as was Finland)...
The Russians had propably won, Estonians labelled as Nazi, more major deportations. Estonians would have eventually been a minority. And it is now safe to say that the Soviet Union occupied a neutral country, not a fascist state (though, Russians keep saying that).
Let me ask one thing. Would Estonia ended up even worse if you guys had put up a fight? Even a little fight? I think not...
It is damn easy to say that Finland was easier to defend and bla bla bla, but did those men that went to the front line in 1939 know that? I don't think so. Nevertheless those men knew that they were fighting much more powerful country!
No don't think Estonians didn't put up any fight at all. Thousands of Estonians fought against Russians in both Finland and Estonia. Armed resistance continued until 1950s.
now I wouldn't say that. And what do you mean by sold? they (if you mean Päts and Laidoner) were sent to Russian prisons after that. Estonians, who know how easy it is to wipe out such a small nation know that the politicians had a no other choice. Whether to fight till the last man and destroy the Estonian kind by doing that, or to make an unpopular decision and to just give up. All other politicians were either killed by Russians or some fled to the west
Are you actually saying that Estonia made a right decision by letting the Soviet Union build bases there? I beg the differ! I also disagree that you would have ended up any worse if you had fought back! I read somewhere that without expositions and killings there would be over a million Estonians and no Russian minority, at that size of coarse.
Another thing that you could have achieved by fighting: respect. There would be no cocky Finns to bolster with their war achievements in Youtube...
It was an ultimatum, whether Estonia let them build bases here or they will use force to build bases here. the politicians knew that Estonians would fight even if their state officially didn't. After all thousands of Estonians fought against the Soviet Union in WW2 and after. In 1934 census, there were ca 1 mio Estonians (88%), Russians 9%, Germans 1.5%, Swedes 0.7% and Jews 0.4%. All the Germans and Swedes left during WW2. Population decreased by 25% in WW2, even when Estonia was neutral
Yup, but I still think that it would have been better if all Baltic states would have fought beside us. You know how poorly Soviets did! 500 000 (could be more. No-one really knows how many of them died) Soviets died and 20 000 Finns died! Soviets had god knows how many tanks and Finns had... ONE tank.
And there is of coarse no difference between Finnish soldier and an Estonian one...
yes, I know in a way it would have been better, but I'm staying to my opinion. And basically you had the Baltics fight beside you, only in a different way. I don't think there would have been many more soldiers on our side. And we should have resisted when the first ultimatum was given, but then we would have lost even sooner than Winter War ended. And then we would have been instantly an axis country, after the war the western countries would have recognized us being part of the Soviet Union.
Lol and estonians didnt?...... remember battle of Narva ( waffen SS estonian legion with danes ,dutch etc) against hundreds of thousands of soviet soldiers. Thx to estonian effort back then u finns had a chance for freedom. sadly there was no chance for freedom for us back then. But im really happy that atleast our friends through history got theyre freedom. and ofcourse we would fight back if russia would attack again . cheers
Estonains can only fight by licking the boots of their latest conquerors.
What Russians should have done was a serious clean up, destroy all those small, irrelevant countries that shouldn´t exist and now depend on western taxpayers to survive.
This is not about America. This is about Russia and its neighbors: RUSSIAN AGGRESSION: Russian occupation of Ukraine - 1650s Russia - Crimea - 1783 Russia - Poland - 1795 Russia - Eastern Georgia - 1801 Russia - Georgia - 1810-1864 Mass Murder of 1 Million Caucasians by Russia - 1859-1880 Russia - Japan - 1905-1905 Russia - Poland - 1920 Russia - Azerbaijan - 1920 Russia - Armenia - 1920 Russia - Poland - 1939 Russia - Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia - 1940
How long will it take? In the long run of the Baltic states ever leave NATO or NATO breaks up, its GG for them :D
VaragianPrince 8 months ago
They´ll just lie and tell that NATO occupied them, forced them to learn english and that during all those years they where in favour of Russian coming back all along.
Fridaey13txhOktober 8 months ago
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stupid estonians you were a colony since 600 years and you still think your something different, look at the people who life in that country its 25% Russians that cant vote and are non citizen this is so ridiculous. No wonder Russia is so pissed off, but things are gonna change anyways Russia is already the forth largest economy in europe and in 2016 it will be the second largest go look up if you dont believing me.
HongKongKanto 10 months ago
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HongKongKanto 10 months ago
if russia invades estonia finland will sent some of their elite troops to kill all rusky bitches :P
NoobSnoopy 1 year ago
I just watched this video first time. I live in Estonia and i'm estonian but i still think that Mart Laar and Lagle Parek over-dramatized the situation. I do not believe that Russia prepare to invasion and i do not afarid it. I have many russian friends and they do not believe it also. Cmon guys it's 21 century. Estonia is part of NATO and European Union. Do you still think that Russia may occupy this country? I don't think so.
feardot 2 years ago 2
Search on youtube: Colin Powell Russia. The former US Foreign Minister made a famous statement, "Russia would never be again USSR b/c it failed at the Box Office!"
chillinmc 2 years ago
@feardot Thank you for your sanity.
freedomgonzo 2 years ago
@feardot i spend about an hour today reading all the comments about April 2007 riot and everything else...a this is the first one with common sence! Thank you!)
Baklaha1 1 year ago
@feardot maybe not the whole country. But do recall what happed to the Białystok region that was once Poland.
vulc1 11 months ago
I see its pointless to speak with the likes of you. Slavs will always be arrogant and barbaric and you are the best example.
GottesEstland88 2 years ago
Okkeyy, im the slavic barbarian whose country sent first man into space, won WW2, conquered 1/7 of the world, became one of the most influential countries, invented video and colored photography, and had your nazi baltic states under its command for over 200 years before the formation of USSR. But I guess our accomplishments are barbaric and so is our unique culture, but Baltic people are so good, so pure, so innocent compared to barbaric Russians who drink water and plan world domination.
Idiot
russianinja2008 2 years ago
Oh whoops, i meant to say vodka, but i think you understand my point.
russianinja2008 2 years ago
@GottesEstland88
Slavs aren't arrogant just Russians.........Poles, Czechs, Slovaks, Slovenes, and Croats are very nice people. Catholic Slavs are good people.
Mojo1982 2 years ago
That im not cursing compared to you?
GottesEstland88 2 years ago
poshli vi nahuy gandoni....
tatarin90 2 years ago
Russia gave up their territories during the rise of Lenin, we were supposed to give all those Nazi Baltic states to kaiser Germany, but the war was over, Germany had lost and your Nazi states were given self determination. When did you kill 25.000 of communists huh? Where do you get such facts, Estonian Wikipedia? I know the history and I can tell that your Baltic state never killed even over 5.000 Russians. Perhaps for over 200 and later on 50 years of occupation, you might've killed so many RU
russianinja2008 3 years ago
You know what? I won't bother arguing with you. I'v read some of the so called "history books" you "people" use in schools. I can safely say you honestly don't know any better. I would suggest you to read an unbiased history book before you come talking to me about history.
Symbioos21 3 years ago
This is not just Russian history books, in fact I read French and Spanish books as well, somehow they say the same thing as Russian books.
I guess it is so called "CONSPIRACY AGAINST PEACEFUL AND FRIENDLY BALTIC STATES"
Don't worry kid I know history and I've been in Latvia. I said that i was Russian and the waiter refused to even come near me. If you assholes like to live off Russian gas and oil I would suggest you improve your behavior, or you might really get invaded.
russianinja2008 3 years ago
Russians are liars and history re writers. Your nation accuses Poland for leashing out WW2 ,its your own defend minister who proclaimed it.
GottesEstland88 2 years ago 3
Remember the battle of the lake, we 150.000 Russians obliterated your Iron clad livonic army of 300.000. And who says the Russians can't fight.
russianinja2008 3 years ago
What battle? Lake battle? Throw some evidence. As far as i remember we smashed you defening Narva line.
GottesEstland88 2 years ago
Oh yeah and why do they call our leader alexander nevsky for nothing. it was 4 months since i posted this comment, do you really need to comment on post this old?
russianinja2008 2 years ago
@russianinja2008 nice history knowledge!) They just sunk...
Baklaha1 1 year ago
BTW Russians never fought against Estonia. The pact between Molotov and Ribbentrop, promised Russia all Baltic states without struggle. Then Baltic Nazi partisans started their long unsuccessful struggle for independence, they never killed 150.000 Russians because you Nazis are afraid of even touching a gun, since the beginning of the time Baltic people only cry like babies.
russianinja2008 3 years ago
Such a stupid assumption, staling purged 2/3 of best russian generals, back at the time. Today estonians are nothing, just a bridge to europe and other baltic states.
russianinja2008 3 years ago
Be brave Estonian friends. West Europe is behind you!
TheRockZH 3 years ago 4
All, who sais it's not propaganda- kids, don't post anything, your mom will punish you, it's time to sleep=))
vochinin 3 years ago
actually junk means this account is tied to a "junk" email, one i can discard w/o any problems
pid are just initials ... a named i used on some forums .. person in doubt
but w/e
pidjunk 3 years ago
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I grew up in in Latvia. Spend there 10 years of my life.
I've been to estonia and lithuania too.
My personal experience for my Latvian "motherland" is that they are so anti-Russian, that they border on Nazism. Which goes especially for estonia.
I hope Russia builds that pipeline going through the Baltic sea and build that new port to stop shipping goods through those 3 countries and let them be all anti-Russian they want. Like 5-6 millions live there but more shit talking than anyone else.
pidjunk 3 years ago
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oh, please. No one is gonna invade your proud, young, little, nazi state. Russia would never invade a member of the EU.
dryschnitzel 3 years ago
Oh, my God!!! Poor estonians! They can't live placidly. Evil russians make plans for a occupy a small proud and independence nation.
AlexRussman 3 years ago
If Russia invades Estonia again, please try fight back! Even if you knew that you would lose... We did that and see, we Finns live in a well-fare state now.
Tupiii89 3 years ago 7
oh we will fight, and we might not win, but we fill defend our little country till the end.
ESTboy123 3 years ago 3
I can't really say we were in an equal position. There were 5x more times Finns and the natural borders were strong and Finland was easier to protect. Fighting against a nation with a population ca 200 times bigger than yours seems to be a dangerous thing if your nation can easily face extinction and the bigger simply wants to destroy you. It was definitely a right thing to do for Estonia to stay neutral. Had we stayed neutral, we would have been on the Nazi side (as was Finland)...
eksiarvamus 3 years ago
A small correction: "Had we not stay neutral..."
The Russians had propably won, Estonians labelled as Nazi, more major deportations. Estonians would have eventually been a minority. And it is now safe to say that the Soviet Union occupied a neutral country, not a fascist state (though, Russians keep saying that).
eksiarvamus 3 years ago 3
Let me ask one thing. Would Estonia ended up even worse if you guys had put up a fight? Even a little fight? I think not...
It is damn easy to say that Finland was easier to defend and bla bla bla, but did those men that went to the front line in 1939 know that? I don't think so. Nevertheless those men knew that they were fighting much more powerful country!
Tupiii89 3 years ago 2
No don't think Estonians didn't put up any fight at all. Thousands of Estonians fought against Russians in both Finland and Estonia. Armed resistance continued until 1950s.
eksiarvamus 3 years ago 10
True. Thanks a lot :)
Nevertheless things were pretty different in 1939... Your politicians sold your country away :(
Tupiii89 3 years ago
now I wouldn't say that. And what do you mean by sold? they (if you mean Päts and Laidoner) were sent to Russian prisons after that. Estonians, who know how easy it is to wipe out such a small nation know that the politicians had a no other choice. Whether to fight till the last man and destroy the Estonian kind by doing that, or to make an unpopular decision and to just give up. All other politicians were either killed by Russians or some fled to the west
eksiarvamus 3 years ago 3
Are you actually saying that Estonia made a right decision by letting the Soviet Union build bases there? I beg the differ! I also disagree that you would have ended up any worse if you had fought back! I read somewhere that without expositions and killings there would be over a million Estonians and no Russian minority, at that size of coarse.
Another thing that you could have achieved by fighting: respect. There would be no cocky Finns to bolster with their war achievements in Youtube...
Tupiii89 3 years ago
It was an ultimatum, whether Estonia let them build bases here or they will use force to build bases here. the politicians knew that Estonians would fight even if their state officially didn't. After all thousands of Estonians fought against the Soviet Union in WW2 and after. In 1934 census, there were ca 1 mio Estonians (88%), Russians 9%, Germans 1.5%, Swedes 0.7% and Jews 0.4%. All the Germans and Swedes left during WW2. Population decreased by 25% in WW2, even when Estonia was neutral
eksiarvamus 3 years ago 3
Yup, but I still think that it would have been better if all Baltic states would have fought beside us. You know how poorly Soviets did! 500 000 (could be more. No-one really knows how many of them died) Soviets died and 20 000 Finns died! Soviets had god knows how many tanks and Finns had... ONE tank.
And there is of coarse no difference between Finnish soldier and an Estonian one...
Tupiii89 3 years ago 2
yes, I know in a way it would have been better, but I'm staying to my opinion. And basically you had the Baltics fight beside you, only in a different way. I don't think there would have been many more soldiers on our side. And we should have resisted when the first ultimatum was given, but then we would have lost even sooner than Winter War ended. And then we would have been instantly an axis country, after the war the western countries would have recognized us being part of the Soviet Union.
eksiarvamus 3 years ago
@eksiarvamus actually the last forest brother was captured in 1978
raigoor9 1 year ago
@raigoor9 I actually knew that, but such a marginal army might be left aside - so the movement ended in the 50s.
eksiarvamus 1 year ago
Lol and estonians didnt?...... remember battle of Narva ( waffen SS estonian legion with danes ,dutch etc) against hundreds of thousands of soviet soldiers. Thx to estonian effort back then u finns had a chance for freedom. sadly there was no chance for freedom for us back then. But im really happy that atleast our friends through history got theyre freedom. and ofcourse we would fight back if russia would attack again . cheers
dcoutput 1 year ago
Estonains can only fight by licking the boots of their latest conquerors.
What Russians should have done was a serious clean up, destroy all those small, irrelevant countries that shouldn´t exist and now depend on western taxpayers to survive.
Fridaey13txhOktober 8 months ago
ahahaha let them invade Estonia, we will se what will happen to Nazi Russia, dismembered in small principalities
gnikoladze 3 years ago
Russia is isolated. Russia has no true allies and if God forbid, a war broke out, Russia is alone.
RUSSIAN AGGRESSION:
Russia (USSR) - Finland - 1940
Russia (USSR) - Basarabia and northern Bucovina, from Romania 1940-1944
Russia (USSR) - Hungary - 1956
Russia (USSR) - Czechoslovakia - 1968
Russia (USSR) - Afghanistan - 1979-1989
Russia - Georgia - 1919, 1920, 1921, 1924, 1991-93
Russia - Georgia - August 2008-?
Iverielii 3 years ago
Iverielii 3 years ago
Russia - Estonia, Livonia (Latvia) - 1721-1918
eksiarvamus 3 years ago 2
Thanks, I will add it to the collection.
Every time you present Russians with facts, they start talking about America.
Like it has anything to do with Russia and its neighbors...
Iverielii 3 years ago 2
true
rwiho 3 years ago