Me Playing Along To Rosanna by Toto (Backing Track)

[meowskull]

I love the sound of that snare, a lot of acoustic sound to it

[TheKoreanX]

Sounds like a gospel church tuned snare drum

[wolfzan]

Love it! Great job!

[chopzmasta07]

Good job ;) now try and get those ghost notes in place. 4 out of 5 stars for everything else :)

[Loutjuh1991]

well done! uve mastered it ...

could u plz tell me how u get this sound quality?

i have also a e-kit vid (TD-9KX) but the ground isnt very good.

do you use something with midi or sumtgin

[neodrumz]

great skill dude! wish i could play like that...can i ask pls where did you get the backing tracks? thanks!

[chriscowboy88]

great job! like you're movies! respect!

[jason4cfc]

that was great m8 keep it up

[knighthawk86855]

Again awesome job!!!

[moemysta]

great job...i am lovin ur vids bro....

sick tune 2

[woof07]

Nice groove...felt great.

[littlestrider20]

Good JOB!

[brendanvdrums]

thats fucking awesome dude, great groove, wish i could shuffle like that.

[davss5]

It is the Bernard Purdie half-time shuffle...first do a simple:

RR RR R(RL) RR RR RR R(RL) (etc.)

"(RL)" is the snare/cymbal hit together...as in 4/4, at the start of the measure the snare comes in at the 3rd point - and then at the 4th point afterwards...

Then add grace notes ("g") with your left hand after each RR (to create a triplet sound)...here is the notation:

RRg RRg R(RL)g RRg RRg RRg R(RL)g

[DJDannyUhOh]

Isn't the ghost note on the second beat of the triplet? (RgR RgR RgR)

[davss5]

I am guessing that your question is somehow based upon something connecting to the Jeff Porcaro video (on Rosanna)...either way, I found it somewhat ironic that Porcaro - the person who made this shuffle more popular - explained it in a way that was INCONSISTENT with the shuffle beat itself...(if you read my initial comment on this video) the grace/ghost notes are ADDED to the existing standard shuffle beat..but regardless of how you learn it, playing it correctly is what counts...

[davss5]

I forgot to mention that drummermandan here does not start out including all the grace notes - but he eventually includes all of them as the song goes on...he does a good job...

[manu2781]

ghosts notes ....

[Em4Freak]

How old are you ?

Nice job

[drummermandan]

Cheers man...I'm 21.

[sayalaperbandel]

huh very old, youwill die not too lon gtime

[GunMetalSparkle]

That's very nice :D

Check out Bernard Purdie. He is the guy behind the 16'th note shuffle.

Fooling in the rain by Led Zeppelin is also worth to check out if you like this groove.

[YetAnotherProg]

Fool in the rain*

In through the out door

[hgtpunto]

You are really very good.

Nice work an cover.

[Gijskerp]

buy a rims headset you can put it in a backpack of 0,5 meter

[Gzblade]

Mate props to the drumming, I really appreciate that tight, accurate groove. Can you tell me where you got this backing track.

[SexyPunk666]

sry bad snare sound

[GCracker23]

its not that bad

[Summercruise2008]

Perfect!!! U rock dude!!!

[Guitarman777]

Your timmig is perfect. I didnt here on wrong beat. Awesome JOB!!!

[cdchase]

LUV what U're doin', man...KEEP RAWKIN!!!I'd give my left one for those tracks!

PEACEnLUV

[DrummerManiak]

damn U are pro dude.. that shuffle is awesome xD! I love the hi-hat stuff.. I really need some practice when I see you drumming xD.

I got Roland Td-9 and a Delta Drum what I mixed up with my oldest drum set. So now it is just 1 big drum of Delta Drum and Shock.

Love your work! Keep On Rockin! !~!

[drummermandan]

Thanks man, glad you liked the vid. May I ask a question...what is a delta drum? Is it some type of older electric kit?

[DrummerManiak]

It's a Drum like Yamaha and TAMA and Stagg, Only I got a Delta Drum mixed up with a Shock:)

[HaCd117]

can u play real drums?

[drummermandan]

Yep I certainly can. I played real drums a good 5-6 years before playing an electric. I do use the electronic mainly for practicing these days (as it is always set up and also much quieter!), but I do still play the real thing when I can. Nothing beats acoustic kits, but I do like the electronics as a practicing tool and for recording these vids (as I dont own drum mics or a mixing desk!).

[HaCd117]

kool thanks 4 letting me know!

[chowdermint]

You definately have natural groove , sounds really tight. Just one question , is there an 8th note triplet ghost note missing immediately after the accented snare ?. Another words straight after the accented snare you would ghost an 8th note with same hand.

[robcarey]

Very nice groove you have. You nailed it, by the way. Some people here should listen to the original song. There are no ghost notes at all in the beginning, the groove builds up instead. And there's no ride in the bridge!

[drummermandan]

Thanks dude...well I have tried to play it as close as I could get to the record (well the main groove, the fills are far from perfect). Glad you liked it!

[HerlPearl]

Don't worry about the record. Most drummers do not even bother to copy their own recordings ... why should we?

Be yourself and play whatever you want. Good job, btw.

[chadludwig]

This is what kids should be listening too! Forget the Death Metal shit.

[wordicus]

Porcaro would be proud. Sounds good, man.

[darthdante465]

Excellent, dude!!...I'm trying to paly this one...it is very difficult!!...practice is all!!

[totojake1234]

not bad. im a drummer too 15.

what i do for the chorus is play the ride bell brings out the umff of the song.

good

[drummermandan]

Cheers. True, but that's your preference...what i was mainly doing here was to play (as closely as i could) to what was played on the record...if you notice, he waits until the guitar break/solo (which I would call the middle eight type section) until he switches to the ride...kinda builds up the song and uses the ride sparingly, which in my opinion i prefer. However each to their own.

[thewednesdaysuk]

Groovin baby! Nice, but whack an extra bass drum on beat 3 of the second bar of the two bar phrase (i.e. with the snare hit) to finish the job! Nice work

[intr0guy]

dude, how old are u. cuz u look to be in ur late teens and i really enjoyed ur solo, not ur best efforts here tho, good job anyway!

[drums3000]

terrible snare!!!!

[tommy2win123]

haha agree! and that on a electric kit XD but wel, nice played :)

[puroy2023]

watch my version, DENZ JAMMING (rossana)

[mailer666]

You're missing a lot of ghosting on the snare there eh?

That's not the beat...

[andylpool79]

good job , check out my version

[studiojayx]

great ears dude, sorry all of yall there isnt a ghost note at the beginning of the track... a friend of mine is a freelance engineer - and i luckily got to hear the divided tracks from the 5 album... pocaro is crazy-sick - this kid did a great job... keep groovin man!

[action3909]

fucken bad kit choice, doesnt fit the song at all...

[5150000000000000]

Nice job..

You are really tight, and the groove is okay. But you don't really get the backbeat. You're playing too "strait". And try to relax a little bit. :)

[therealTOTOfan]

great job man! i thought there's another ghost note after each backbeat. and a bass drum hit at 4 ?

[titich4ever]

Hey man !!! I'm a Swiss drumplayer. I'm a real Porcaro's fun, but I'm a fun of you too. How old are you??I've been listening to a few shuffle play around the net those times, but I've to say you're really "in". You don't loose time, you're play is complete but not in an exageration. I really have to practice now cause after hearing you I think I have a job to do :)

Keep on, cheese. Gus.

[Sonorforce08]

too bad that he forgot the ghostnotes at the start.... and that he didn't used the ride in the bridge... well yeah, you can't have it all

[ExportDrummer89]

Great playing.....i'm having a hell of a time getting that shuffle down.

[overtime2005]

this is a FANtastic job here!

[syntheticvitamin]

it's greath man!

[thenickanator]

how did you come in on time without a count in? ace groove btw i find shuffle REALLY hard personally for some reason

[drummermandan]

Heh heh, umm magic! Nah there was a count in on this backing track I just edited without it as I thought it sounded better....would be pretty hard to just come in perfectly. The shuffle groove is hard to master well, and I personally feel that mine is not perfect yet...just takes time and perseverance!

[thenickanator]

ahhh yeah i probably should have guessed editing hahaha how fuckin silly of me was tht?? haha yeah damn shuffles!! you seem to have that crap nailed tho tbh good work man

[splash2791]

Your feel is really quite good buddy. Your groove "sits back" nicely, if you know what I mean.

Your snare beat placing is just slightly behind the beat, which gives your playing a nice groove. Jeff had that same kind of feel to his playing, as I'm sure you know.

Compared to the other guys on youtube who play along to the Rosanna track, I'd say yours is the best feeling. The others might play the notes more correctly than you do, but you got the better groove.

[drummermandan]

Hey cheers mate. With this song that was my main aim, to make sure the groove 'rides' well and I'm glad that you think so! There are some inaccuracies (especially with the fills), but this was done a while back now so (hopefully) at this present time I can play this track with less of these.

[MaRK0849]

dude where did you get this track an tab from, i wouldnt mind havin a pop at it myself =] great if you help

[diamondplatedmonster]

good dude the only thing you missed a couple of ghost notes in spots but great

[rennieallen]

Nice! Playing is great.

Would sound better on acoustic though. Dynamics (particularly on the snare) are critical to this groove, and the electronic snare just doesn't cut it (it might actually harm the quality of your play, if you try to compensate for the lacking dynamics).

[PickyfromTerminology]

Hey dude. im sat here with my brother now. thats pretty damn cool. Ive just made a pact with him that if he can play the porcaro shuffle by the time he's 16. ill buy him a new set of cymbals. He's been playin 6 months ish. how long u been playin, and how old r u?

[bartolemeo]

Beautiful job, buddy. We all need to remember Jeff.

[atesbaskan]

very good lol :)

[kalbokanamaneh]

go0d, i can do that als0, but i dont have any drums, can't afford to buy one

[jdiciacco]

Very tight - love that shuffle beat - great job

[drummermandan]

Thanks very much!

[swisstripz]

are you chewing gum

[drummermandan]

I believe I was.....helps the concentration!

[drummerguy124]

you suck go watch chocolate rain and vanilla snow... thats true musicianship.

[asshunter1983]

fuckin awesome ;-)

[drummer89f]

complimenti..bravo!!

[gravics]

Very good! I enjoyed that very much. That groove is challenging but you looked like you were having fun and that's what it is all about. Keep up the good work.

[amibami]

sounds good 2 me ,keep it up :)

[dajnerise]

thats a shame...ur ruining ToTo

drums sound like dishes

[Amphlett]

That was bloody awesome mate! Really tight!

Si.

[7mileshi]

VERY nice job! It took me months to figure out how to 1/2 time shuffle. Lol. Hey, where did you get the backing track and how can I find one?

[adedrums]

Hey friend, nice work. Some people on here are so full of crap, picking fault with that. You played it well, it's not easy bin there myself. Just ignore the dicks who say "yeah you missed the ghost note on beat 2+ in bar 56. God they are so up their asses. Bassically it was really good dude. Keep it up

[drummermandan]

Hey mate, thanks for the comment. Yeah with a song like this which is renound for the drumming groove not many (if any) will pull it off as good as the original (and JP was an ace drummer). If ppl wanna get picky (right or wrong) then fair enough, but I try to do justice to the original. So how long been playing?

[adedrums]

10 years pro, but started playing 20 years ago. how about you?

[drummermandan]

cool, u must be a good player, i assume u have some vids yeah? I've been playing for about 8 years, still need much more practice.

[adedrums]

Nah man, no vids yet, but will do when i get the time. Keep it going buddy it sounds good. Have you got a myspace or somethin?

[ctejadaro]

do you have an acoustic set or u just play electronic?

[drummermandan]

Yeah I have an acoustic set, thats what I learnt on mainly as I have only had this electronic for about 2 years (and I have been playing for about 7). However I use this mainly at the moment as less problem for noise.....but I much prefer acoustic sets for sound and feel. (but electronics are a good recording tool)

[nuthajason]

nice one

to learn how to do this beat gradually from a pro teacher, as well as fool in the rain and purdy... google jason horsler and visit his tripod webpage. go to the drumming section, drum lessons with videos and scroll down to SHUFFLE PRIMER.

[kapdrums]

You're on your way dude...cool!

[tvmustdie]

Dude that was freakin awesome and perfect!

[tvmustdie]

Hey ihatehippiefaggots. I hate George Bush cocksuckers like you. You need to brush up on your chinese.

[redoredo]

nice groove man !

[anayaedgar]

he´s playing it great, nice work man, and thats how you play the ghost notes, i think its the best version of the rosanna shuffle i have seen on youtube.

[Aomx15]

Nice Work... and I want you E-Drum ;). I don't have that High-Hat Controller... it is awesome. How much have you paid for it?

[logbfmv]

lol u are playing that wrong.have u readet tabs i dont think so or u just cant play ghost hits

[drummermandan]

Ok enlighten me on how to play ghost strokes then.....I'm not really sure on how else you can play it (apart from playing them quieter maybe), especially when I used the vid of JP explaining the groove when I was learning the song???

[therealTOTOfan]

@ logbfmv...where is your problem ?? he plays it very well! what do you mean with "played wrong" ??

[joujou44]

nice! at the beginnign u didnt have all the ghost notes there but nice job, where did u get that backing track?

[drummermandan]

The backing track I got from the Rhythm Magazine (published in the UK). It's from quite an old issue, I'm not sure if you can back order but u may be able to find it on the net somewhere.

[therealTOTOfan]

@ joujou44...the ghost notes aren't all in there at the beginning if you listen to the track carefully!

[brothersin1]

Nice groove, Smooth. just start your rolls a little earlier, try to make it your own other than that sounds great

[mikosoft]

Awesome!

[Lattesociopati]

Great, but in the beginning you dont have alle the ghost-notes with you, but still 5 stars ..

[drummermandan]

Thanks. About the beginning if you listen carefully to the track you will notice that the ghost notes are brought in gradually then by 2nd verse it is the full Jeff P groove with all ghost notes. To actually leave out ghost notes and place them in a certain place within the shuffle is actually harder than the full groove, but very effective.

[Lattesociopati]

Okay, sorry did'nt know that

[trxtan1]

very nice playing dude.... keep it up!

[Bice404]

cool. What kind of digital hi-hat is that?

[drummermandan]

It is the VH11 Roland hi-hat, that is the hardware. If u actually mean the sound I cannot remember but it is a custom sound that I created on the kit.

[Bice404]

Ok nice. Yeah I meant the hardware. How much for one of those, and do you recomend it?

[drummermandan]

Well in the UK you can pick them up for around £220-£250. They are not too cheap but considering they can emulate lots of sounds then u could consider it worth the price of real hi-hats. However, on this kit they came with the package.

[Drumdog1958]

Very good choice of music and very well played. I must start buying the Rythym magazine again for some grooves to play to. I just try and play over a cd, it doesn't have quite the same effect.

[drummermandan]

Cheers man. The Rhythm CD is great, and plus there are so many technique workshops each month to help improve your skills. Playing over a CD can be pretty frustrating as I always find that I feel somewhat detatched from the music.

[drumdabump]

Good work, only try to hit the snare soft after the loud one (ghost note).

[bdrich]

Nice stuff

[ginofalen]

Hi, Drummermandan. Very Job. Which it´s your equipement used in this perfect perform? Thanks

[drummermandan]

Thanks. Umm the equipment I used here was the Roland VDrums TD12. Very good piece of kit, definately worth purchasing even if you prefer acoustic drums (as i do).

[MikeyFlorida]

you're amazing, man. do you know where I can get the midi file?

[drummermandan]

Hey, cheers mate. Yeah, it's actually a proper band backing track from the a drum magazine (Rhythm) CD that is published here in the UK. I'm not sure where you can get it if you didn't buy the mag, but you maybe able to find back issues with it on or on the net somewhere.

[simonlillfordwildman]

Fabtacular!

[brymerrick]

Great job! Do you naturally have a fast right hand on the hi hat or did you work on it? Mine seems painfully slow some times. Did you work with any particular exercises?

[drummermandan]

Thanks for the comment. About right hand speed, when I tried this groove for the 1st time my right hand was not naturally very fast, but i just practiced rhythms and especially rudiments slow and work up to faster speeds, using a metronome. If you keep doing this you will get faster, and feel much more comfortable at higher speeds. Hope this helps!

[JudLFC]

class, im tryin to get this beat, been trying for a while now what are the rudiments, could you send me them via jud47 @ hotmail. co. uk? ta mate. good job btw ;)

[ostepops]

Very good!!