"Oh, but the Africans, they look so...evolution must be true!"
I swear that this must be how some of you dullards think. You'd think it was totally out of the realm of even slight godly reasoning that maybe there is a Creator who wanted people of many different looks and appearances to enjoy His blessings. That maybe when this same Lord of the Universe tells the man who was our representative 'Thou shalt not eat it...' that maybe there was a good reason. *sigh* But, here we are.
@SylentIntensity1122 and coming from you that is hilarious, you haven't explained anything. that 'list' shows you haven't gotten a clue about what I said but that is not surprising when you walk around the world with your head up your ass. You haven't adressed a single point, just more dishonest claims. Evolution doesn't differentiate between 'races' we are a single species. No one believes feti are fish, moron, only creotards say they do. Dunning-Kruger effect, that's you.
1) OBVIOUSLY the point of making the list was to demonstrate how racist the idea is, dullard.
2) Thomas Huxley went to great lengths trying to show the rest of academia that the fetal stages of mammals have gills- entirely imaginary. People who think the human fetus is just a fish might have less qualms about killing it.
3) If people believe that we came from animals, they will question the idea of morality.
@SylentIntensity1122 1) Nonsense, high pressure and air make up have nothing to do with the bible, it's incredibly dishonest to claim an achievement made by scientist that are actually doing their homework.research.
2) Domestication is older by far then the bible, and if you believe that spots, stripes, or any other pattern has anything to do with what kind of stick you'll let them face while mating, you're a loon.
3) Archaeology does not study the geological collumns nor does it study fossils
"...high pressure and air make up have nothing to do with the bible..."
I'm supposed to confide in the credibility of someone who says that archaeology has nothing to do with fossils or the geological columns? LOL Do you know that petrified trees have been found growing upwards into geologic layers that are supposedly millions of years old? In the fossil record many creatures' remains are found that are a great deal larger than their modern counterparts (Gen 6:4).
@SylentIntensity1122 And I am suposed to rely on the espertise of someone who doesn't know it's geology for the geographical columns and paleontology for fossils and dinosaurs?
For all we know, Gregor Mendel (the monk who pioneered the study of genetics) could have been inspired by Scripture. You should read about the studies of Carl Baugh. He got the idea that maybe creatures were larger in pre-ancient times because of atmospheric pressure . This guy has been able to grow 1 foot long piranha under hyperbaric conditions. Whatever the reason for larger creatures in the fossil record, it is damaging to the theory of macro-evolution.
Kei Mori, a Japanese scientist, was able to grow a tomato plant to produce thousands of tomatoes using pressurized CO2 and filtered light. What about the chart we see in the science books showing the supposed evolution of the horse? That chart was proved to be false decades ago- the small horse depicted in the chart was discovered to be still living in South America. Creatures were larger in pre-ancient times, and in light of evolution, this just doesn't make sense.
Genome sequencing is a laboratory process which allows an organism's entire genome sequence to be known all at once. Since a complete set of an organism's chromosomes contain quite a lengthy genome sequence, high-computing power is often necessary. Please state your point.
@SylentIntensity1122 thanks for responding, as you well know, chimps, gorillas and orangutan have have 48 chromosomes (24 pairs) and Humans have 46 (23 pairs) my question to you is.. How come human chromosome #2 has telomeres in the center of the chromosome #2. Also on ether side of the of the telemeres in Chromosome #2 there is a centromere? If you truly understand Genome Sequencing this question should be very easy to understand. Any geneticist will agree with me.
@SylentIntensity1122 Nope, you got it totally wrong. You don't even know what this implies do you. If you actually understood Genome sequencing of primates you would know what i talking about, this is very simple to understand if you knew anything about genetics. See ya later, i don't debate with someone who lies.
@SylentIntensity1122 You used to be a evolutionist did you. I doubt it it, evolution has never said humans descended from orangutangs "Could it have something to do with humans being descended from orangutans?"
Ok, fine. It says mankind descended from APES. You know what I meant. I just had the feeling that maybe you didn't even understand evolution, since you were talking about orangutans.
@SylentIntensity1122 Could it mean possibly that we share a common ancestor, I think he is referring to ken Miller's argument who happens to be a creationist like you. I also doubt you ever believed evolution because you don't even understand it, also because no one who believes in evolution refers to them selves as an evolutionist. NEXT!!
For what it's worth, I was once an evolutionist. Once I stepped back, took some time to really examine it, and realized how silly it is...WOW! My feelings ranged from amused to downright anti-conspiratorial. I could plead with everyone who has not already taken some time to really examine the theory of evolution outside the paleo-babble that makes it sound so plausible. Once a person's eye's are opened it really does sound quite...bananas!
@SylentIntensity1122 cont. The geological layers and fossil deposits are absolutely not deposited in the way you would expect with a flood, we find the fossils as you would expect and as predicted by the theory of evolution, each deposited according to time it lived and not by size of the creature which would have been the case in a flood.
5. Wrong again it is a ancient Greek ideal, based on the Prometheus myth.
Stop claiming achievements that have nothing to do with your bronze age ideas.
@357MagnumBob Maybe he should take the trouble and actually go to a natural history museum, open a book other then the bible, etc, and not expect every damned thing to be handed to him in byte sized chunks on a silver platter. You know, do some work by himself for a change?
Well this is sad, and clouds the issue. Just because one man who has the truth is not well at putting it out does not mean the truth does not exist. LAME video......
@Gadhouser Unfortunately mr. Hovind is not putting out any truths, whatsoever. It is he who is clouding the issue, by spreading misinformation about what the theory of evolution actually says, maintaining the view that it is an atheist theory, which it is not. If any of his 'theories' were plausible he'd not be afraid to submit them to peer review, but he's not in it for the truth, he wants ignorant and trusting believers to keep on buying his nonsense on video, he's in it for the money.
@Gadhouser Just out of interest & in a slightly different question regarding Creationist justifications for their beliefs I was wondering how the idea explains the fact that we can see the light from stars from millions of light years away if the planets less than 10,000 years old? Or likewise how coral rings indicate they are 10's or 100's of thousand years old? (evolution in itself doesn't disprove the idea of God, but is another reason to dismiss Creationism).
@Gadhouser If you claim something is true, produce evidence for it. Creationists can not do that. Creationists only refer to the Bible and say God did it.
I can prove the God of the Bible is a liar. God claims to love everyone. If you love people could you do this to them? "The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6)
@HighCardWins Do you realize Ezechial 9 : 4-6 is prophesy? It is a vision of the future. A prophesy that was given to Ezechial so that he might warn and prevent this horrible event from happening?
@ScientificBob Also he should know that it was from genetic similarities between hippos and whales that led scientists to discover three intermediate species geographically located in between where hippos and whales live, respectfully. DNA leads to the discovery of three intermediate species fossils...
I stopped your video at the 0:01 mark because only an idiot would show a picture of Hovind with the word Fucktard under his name. This shows that you are closed minded and therefore your video will be a pile of garbage. I was willing to watch with an open mind until I saw how idiotic your vid started.
Actually the video itself was the point not the picture nor the opinion of the poster. If you actually had a working brain you would know fully that hovind is a lying piece of shit and mostly definately a fucking tard.
@TheGreekMan1981 1. Stopping after 1 second because someone called your hero fucktard isn't 'willing to watch with an open mind', that's closeminded.
2. Making assumptions about me in that 1 second is another example of closemindedness. If you'd have read the title you'd have concluded that this video is a mirror.
3. Starting with the last video of this series shows either your poor reading/counting skills or that you had no interest in the context anyway and wanted something to cry about.
@TheGreekMan1981 "only an idiot would show a picture of Hovind with the word Fucktard under his name."
There are a large number of creationists who would call kent hovind much worse names then fucktard. He's a liar, and easily demonstrated as such.
Almost every word he utters in clear violation of the 9th commandment. No matter what side you take on a debate, you don't want Kent Hovind to agree with you, it make you look bad by extension.
Once again Hovind creates a straw man, knocks it down and claims victory. He doesn't appear to have any understanding of the evolutionary process as it is defined by science.
the real point here is that if a dog gave birth to a human evolution most certainly would not be true, because that is not how evolution works, the fact that kent believes that is proof for evolution shows that he has no idea what he is talking about and ends the argument right there!
@TheTycarroll Exactly, but try telling that to a person (Kent Hovind) that has the debating skill of a five year old who's primary technique consists of jamming his fingers in his ears and screaming "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you!" I mean the dude's been in prison for several years now and still his arguments are parroted by creationists, they still think that Martin is a student, while this vid's been up for over 3 years. Martin's a fellow researcher now, Kent an inmate... nuff said.
Kent might not understand a lot of what he is talking about but he raises some good points...i am agnostic not a Anti-god believer which i was for many years so even now there are certain aspects of evolution including stellar and cosmic evolution etc. that i take for granted and it helps to be reminded every now and again that there really are some very large gaps in our understanding of the universe...that being said we know a lot more than he suggests
@TheTycarroll Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, I'm an agnostic atheist myself, I don't claim to know that there is no God, I just haven't seen any evidence that points towards it. Also evolution only applies to living things, it may sound like good points from Hovind but it is moot since there is no such thing as stellar or cosmic evolution. Yes I agree that there are large gaps in our knowledge ....cont
@TheTycarroll and it is humbling to realize that we are not all knowing, exciting to realize that there is enough left to be discovered. But where I am very comfortable to admit that I do not know a lot of things, the creationist fills the unknown with his God each time and claims it is absolute.
exactly thats why i don't agree with kent when he says that believing in the big bang is a religion...just because we do not yet understand something doesn't mean we aren't trying to find better understanding, sure it does require some belief but at least there is some proof behind it!
@TheTycarroll "i am agnostic not a Anti-god believer " No idea what that is supposed to mean.
"there are certain aspects of evolution including stellar and cosmic evolution" You are mixing cosmology, physics and biology. Please don't.
"there really are some very large gaps " And the way to resolve that situation is study and research to fill those gaps with knowledge instead of just waving with the bible like an idiot.
This grad student is just bloviating to conceal his confusion. Hovind correctly makes the point that genetic information is limited to its purpose and kind. a mutation jump from one family to another is absurd and has never been observed in fossils or in living organisms. Bio student got owned.
@TheThumper49 Is that the official creationist definition or yours? Since you guys jump from one definition to another. Also no where in the theory of evolution does it claim that a snail can turn into a fish, this is not a problem for the theory but a problem of you understanding it. Would you find such a thing, like an acorn growing out of a human you'd get the nobel prize for disproving evolution.
The Hominidae (anglicized hominids, also known as great apes), as the term is used here, form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: chimpanzees (Pan), gorillas (Gorilla), humans (Homo), and orangutans (Pongo). Wikipedia
@gregrutz Seeing as how the "taxonomic tables" are an offshoot of evolution, perhaps I should be more specific and say the the Bible "kinds" would refer to genus and species.. The Bible does not teach man or any other life form ascends from lower life forms so taxonomy is just an erroneous convention in this regard.
@TheThumper49 What? You are a mammal if evolution is fact or fiction. You are a primate even if evolution is wrong. Kinds make kinds. A dog will always make a dog even if in a million years the dog can fly, it will still be a flying dog.
@TheThumper49 This is exactly what I mean with creationist definitions, first you say kind equals family, now it is genus or species?!? Those are 3 different things you've said it meant in the last 48 hours!
Btw have you found the page yet where it says cows turn into whales, I'll also be happy with snails into fish if that would make it easier for you.
@ScientificBob Taxonomy is a parallel convention of evolution. It's paradigm is lower to higher life forms. that's why it is impossible to use this model in a Biblical setting. God created Man as man, cows as cows, birds as bird etc. The absurdity of homo sapiens being in the order of primates is pagan science. There are no progressions, only adaptations. A poodle is still in the Wolf family of canines. It is a dog, it will always be a dog.
@TheThumper49 "any other life form ascends from lower life forms so taxonomy is just an erroneous convention in this regard. "
Wauw, that's what I call 'exposing your ignorance with pride'.
Taxonomy is JUST how we classify species. It just so happens to correspond perfectly with evolution theory. FYI: the reason that that is the case, is because evolution is bang on the money.
@TheThumper49 What do you mean it is limited to its purpose?. Most DNA does not encode any proteins ie does not have a 'purpose'. by the way. What do you mean by kind? Most fossils do not have recoverable DNA. What is a mutation jump. You don't seem to have a solid enough understanding of genetics to disprove it. Better stick to providing evidence for your alternate explanation. This is where it goes quiet.
@friendsofthepenan Just what it it sounds like. The information can be rearranged to produce variation, but it cannot "mutate" into another kingdom over time. That is the "jump" that is the backbone of macro evolution. To make it simple for you, a snail cannot become a fish.
@TheThumper49 Again, your reply shows only your ignorance on the subject at hand, I challenge you to give me the page and or chapter from 'The origin of species' where it is claimed that cows turn into whales.
@TheThumper49 Mutations of DNA do happen all the time. When it does information may be lost, changed duplicated or added to. Yes your right there is no "jump" but the accumulation of the above changes and the variation by rearrangement over vast amounts of time lead to new species and eventually new kingdoms arose from very primitive ancestors. You clearly do not understand the concept well enough to refute it.
@friendsofthepenan Not so. It can be changed only within the parameters of what is available. And mutations only cause weakness and eventual demise. Your "long periods of time" statement is just an evolutionary canard that they hide behind to cover their total lack of evidence. There are NO transitional fossils and nobody has witnessed a non synthetic transgenetic mutation that is a viable organism. It's all a fabricated myth.
@TheThumper49 I'm afraid yes so. Frame shift caused by insertion or deletion mutations can give rise to entirely new genes is just one example. With many documented instances. mutations are sometimes beneficial eg. penicillin resistance. Search 'increase in information' the first video deals with this topic in more detail than can be afforded in comments. I don't know where you studied molecular genetics but you are missing some fundamental and rudimentary understandings of the topic.
@TheThumper49 "And mutations only cause weakness and eventual demise" Demonstrably false.
"There are NO transitional fossils " Before I spam you with dozens of them, please define what you understand by the term "transitional"? What properties should a fossil have for you to recognise it as a transitional fossil?
Jesus Christ is real and your knowledge of science is foolish and nothing. the uploader and this bio-grad student that propbably has no life except trying to find where we came from. remind me of the old greek empire and look at there philosiphy now...hmmmmm. yeah didnt last right. wiped out. While the word of God remains. Keep seeking your answer on where we came from uploader sooner or later you have to return to dust. Just like there is a physical death to pay here, there is also a second
@LASuper38 So you don't get it at all I see, seems you';re the only inbred here. You have no idea how much we still use of the old greek philosophy that according to you got wiped out. Think before you type.
@LASuper38 The difference is that the bio-grad IS trying to find out where we came from with testable, observable evidence, while you accept your religion as the answer because it feels more comfortable. Your "word of god" remains, but it is not the only one. Islam, Bhuddism, and Hinduism are just a few others. Those gods lasted too. Does that mean they are all right? You see my point? Just because a story is passed down many generations does not make it true.
If it takes new information to advance beyond a place of development where does that information originate from,if what has evolved is limited to its own resources?
I found this to be the most frustrating video. Kent and that other guy consistently ask him for examples of how evolution can be falsified, the student keeps giving examples and they just go "no, no, no". If indeed a human was found with a pinecone growing out of his head, that would certainly violate evolutionary theory, especially if no good reason could be found. However, the model of evolution currently and common ancestory works because we do not find these things and it is testable.
Hovind explained the Biblical account of Noah as follows: Noah's family and two of every "kind" of animal (including young dinosaurs)[43] safely boarded the Ark before a −300 °F (−184 °C) ice meteor came flying toward the Earth and broke up in space. Some of the meteor fragments became rings and others caused the impact craters on the moon and some of the planets. The remaining ice fragments fell to the North and South Poles of the Earth.
@spnebula It's complete bollox which is why it's easy not to believe. He could better have explained that Noah's ark was actually a space ship where all life was cryogenically preserved whilst God did all the post ice meteor renovations to planet Earth. As part of the renovation God made marijuana in the hope that one day, if people smoked enough of it, they'd believe idiots like Kent Hovind, Ray Comfort, and Ken Ham. Unfortunately even total stoners could see through their charade. Happy Hiking
@CarajilloDulce God designed coconut to test our faith in him. We need to work hard with our machette to open it. It is good for muscles and bones. Why do you think Noah and his family carried with them bacteria and viruses that cause bubonic plague, chicken pox, small pox, Human papilloma virus, Polio, syphillis, gonorroehea, cancer causing viruses, brain encephelitis, genital wart viruses? Think about it and you will find god who helped Noah carry all those bad stuff to test our faith.
@spnebula Excellent.... and I suppose god put you on this earth to test my patience. Obviously you are having a laugh at YEEC fundamentalists expense. Good luck with that... I'm sure there are a few YEECs out there who actually think that you're for real! And don't forget... god loves even the most virulent bacteria.
@CarajilloDulce "God loves even the most virulent bacteria." ...Says who? God hates the way the world has become. He hates sin. There are many things in the bible that God clearly detests. READ the bible first (I suggest KJV), don't just skim through, and then express your opinions. Not trying to bash you, or start an argument AT ALL... It's like me saying "The 1995 Ford Taurus has a poorly designed alternator" without having a clear understanding of it's electrical and charging system at all.
@whatnamesnottakenyet I have read the bible. I was introduced to it at an early age and have since made a study of comparative religions. Maybe you should read the associated comments on this page. You would then likely deduce that "god loves even the most virulent bacteria" was written as a joke. Then again, how do you know that god (if there is indeed a god) does not love all his creations? For that matter, how do you know what god thinks at all?
"There are many things in the bible that God clearly detests."
indeed....homosexuals, non-jews,shell fish, pigs...people who want evidence instead of blind faith
strangely enough YHWH doesnt hate rape, slavery, murdering entire cities, infanticide, beating your slaves brutally(unless they die in a few days, then you're in trouble), cursing fig trees because they have no fruit out of season....a fascinating reading that bible thing......
@spnebula Because most of us have had physics in high school, the temperature of that meteorite is irrelevant, and it is the mass (the mass of Antarctica would be enough to kill every living thing on earth) that gives the meteorite it's destructive power. The impact of 2 of them would give Noah a whole set of other problems then just flood water.
There is too much scientific evidence from thousands of scientists from all over the world to prove that evolution is dead wrong. Peer-reviewed science literature is littered with evidence against evolution. There is scientific evidence for creation of the world in 6 days. All creationsists believe that and they have read published papers, but god-hating atheists won't read them. When I went hiking, I thought I saw dinosaurs and demons, but I was scared to see where they went.
@spnebula I guess that's why the vast majority of the scientific community favour the theory of evolution..... they just haven't spent enough time hiking with dinosaurs and demons!
@CarajilloDulce You must see Banana man's banana illustration that proves creationism. He uses a ripe banana to prove how god made banana to fit humans hand. An athiest simply cannot explain why a banana is curved so that it is angled in a perfect way to be eaten by a man.
@spnebula I have seen it. Ray Comfort is a complete idiot. Why would some mystical deity stop with the banana? Why not design all food stuffs so that they can be so easily consumed? Ever tried opening a coconut fresh from the tree without using a machete? I guess this deity of yours was also too busy hiking with dinosaurs and demons to get around to it!
@spnebula Ok at the risk that you're just trolling.... The banana Ray Comfort uses is not a wild banana, which doesn't look anything like the banana's which grow in the wild. It is through pollination and selection by the industry how it got it's shape and colour, we made Ray's banana.
@ScientificBob I have seen that I was very impressed by the design of banana for man. Coconut was designed by god so that men work hard to open it so that men become stronger and wiser. Apple was made red (danger sign) so that Eve could see the danger sign. Jackfruit was designed in such a way that forced the mankind to design tools to open it and cherish the taste of that fruit. Onion was created to cause tears so that tears can cleanse our eyes every now and then. They found Noahs Ark.
@ScientificBob I suppose you are speaking from experience. Just look at water molecule and you will notice weak hydrogen bonds holding each other. Such beautiful structure proves God's existence.
In reality, off course, when the circumstances allow for it, 2 hydrogen atoms bind with an oxygen atom to form a water molecule through simple chemistry. No gods or unicorns are needed to do that.
@ScientificBob Finger mails are designed for fine scratching, pubic hair designed to give warmth and comfort to the vital organ, fingers are designed for multiple pleasure activities, tongue is loose for talking/eating/pleasure activity. Buttock for cushions, rain to wash animals and trees that don't have shower facility, wind designed to remove dust off of your cars and houses, dog tail curves upward so that shit does not hit the tail. He cares. They provide proof for ONE GOD.
@spnebula "Peer-reviewed science literature is littered with evidence against evolution. There is scientific evidence for creation of the world in 6 days. "
The bible is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper, dumbass.
Is it me or does a argument of a creatonist that goes against evolution always sounds so dumb look at jaudett130 argument and dodopandemic response
And why cant one christian answer one simple Q
Why does a loving god let a whole country like africa starve, No rain a whole year, went there? or only saw the commercials on tv?.. seriously realiy is 10x more worse then they can show you. And not only t hat I can't stand how people can be spoiled like in Sweet 16 why would god maket his so unbalanced
@jonh387 GOD is testing us. GOD works in mysterious ways. GOD knoweth all. GOD designed DOG so that we can appreciate things seen from the other side. You have to see banana man video to understand the power of GOD.
Hovind's smart enough to realize that most creationists are clueless about science, but not smart enough to stay out of prison. I hope he's getting reamed for Jeebus right now.
Evolution no matter the arguments is impossible going back to the big bang what exploded? Your saying there is scientific evidence for evolution, ok how did the elements evolve hmmm? How did planets evolve from nothing? God created the heavens and earth no questions asked believe it or not it's all there your the willingly ignorant ones
@jaudette130 Well the universe including us is all there... at least as far as we perceive it, but just because we can't explain everything does not necessarily mean that some mysterious creator deity is responsible for it. There's even less evidence to suggest that a supernatural deity created everything, or for that matter even exists, than there is to support the theory of evolution. All you're doing with filling in the gaps in our understanding by saying "God did it" which explains nothing.
@jaudette130 Evolution has nothing to do with the Big Bang, nor with the formation of elements or planets and stars. Evolution explains the diversity of life, not the origin of it, so your questions make no sense at all. "how did the elements evolve hmmm?" Elements don't evolve they are formed through nucleosynthesis. " How did planets evolve from nothing?" Again planets do not evolve they are also formed.
@DodoPandemic And if I may add, planets didn't form from nothing. That's not science's idea and actually the law of conservation of matter forbids such a thing to happen. However that's how Christians believe it happened. We have scientific evidence and rationale as to how the elements and planets came to be. But what we've never seen is anything being made from nothing as the myth states.
@jaudette130 Evolution by Natural Selection is totally different from questions of the origins of the universe and, even, from the question of initial life-forms. Your question about "what exploded" in the big bang shows that you have no conception of what the "big bang" is. Synthesis of heavy elements in stars after the "big bang" has some unanswered questions, but they have nothing to do with evolution. Ignorance does not equal righteous indignation.
I don't understand that "dogs from non-dogs" argument. I've heard him pose it many times but it doesn't make any sense. Especially because we know that dogs came from non-dogs since we did it ourselves with selective breeding. That's just artificial selection and if anything bringing dogs up is a bad idea because it's evidence for the existence of natural selection.
@rougarou88 Kent is trying to say that evolution supposedly states that dogs produce non-dogs; that they produce something unrelated to themselves (such as one thing giving birth to something from another lineage). Where he is missing the point is that a Clade branches into more specific daughter sets that over time might not look like their ancestors, but are still members of that Clade. He doesn't see the link between the nodes.
Nothing he says makes any sense, nor has it been backed by any credible sources. He just runs his mouth and bashes people for having an opposing opinion. It would be interesting to see him undergo psychoanalysis. And those are the good things I have to say about him...
And that is why it is utterly pointless arguing with creationists, Its obvious Kent understood exactly the points being made and that his usual bull was not going to wash with someone who had the knowledge to refute it and bring him back to reality. He heard it, but he just could not listen. Not much money in his game in admitting your wrong i suppose. The battle, the only one worth fighting with these guys is to keep them as far from any classroom as humanly possible.
you know what i dont support with my tax money Ken...feeding Prisoners...how would you like it if the majority of society decided against that? Maybe you ask God to help you 'evolve' into being able to eat iron bars you fraudulent pig
Since we seem to be going round and round on the science aspect, why don't we look at it from another angle.
If God made this world 6000 years ago, flooded the planet 4500 years ago, then showed himself to a group of people off and on for 1000 years, then actually came and lived among us for 33 years....
I really wonder what kind of mental deformation someone must have undergone to believe this. Hovind was stumped by each and every comment that kid made.
Kent Hovind is just ridiculous, dogs produce non dogs. you violate common sense hovind. and quit masquerading as a scientist because you read a few science books. you are not a scientist!!!
Are there plants that move? Well define "move" because yes there are. Plants grab flies in the venus fly trap. Or ivy can "walk" as it grows out, makes new roots and loses the old roots. If you repeat over and over the plant is technically "walking" accross the land.
Kevins mistake here is to think that the further in time you get and the more complex you get then the more DNA you get.
He thinks amoeba are simpler so should have less DNA. Not so.
He thinks things that evolve FIRST should have LESS dna. This is also not so.
The QUANTITY of DNA has no implication in evolution. Just like the file size of a JPG image doesnt tell you how complex the color content will be. A black and white image can have a bigger file size than a photo of a rainbow.
why call him names? Why support GOV lies and call the truth dumb? Thats why Humanity is fucked
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"Oh, but the Africans, they look so...evolution must be true!"
I swear that this must be how some of you dullards think. You'd think it was totally out of the realm of even slight godly reasoning that maybe there is a Creator who wanted people of many different looks and appearances to enjoy His blessings. That maybe when this same Lord of the Universe tells the man who was our representative 'Thou shalt not eat it...' that maybe there was a good reason. *sigh* But, here we are.
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It's sad that I even have to explain the implications of the list to you. You are willingly ignorant.
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@SylentIntensity1122 and coming from you that is hilarious, you haven't explained anything. that 'list' shows you haven't gotten a clue about what I said but that is not surprising when you walk around the world with your head up your ass. You haven't adressed a single point, just more dishonest claims. Evolution doesn't differentiate between 'races' we are a single species. No one believes feti are fish, moron, only creotards say they do. Dunning-Kruger effect, that's you.
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1) OBVIOUSLY the point of making the list was to demonstrate how racist the idea is, dullard.
2) Thomas Huxley went to great lengths trying to show the rest of academia that the fetal stages of mammals have gills- entirely imaginary. People who think the human fetus is just a fish might have less qualms about killing it.
3) If people believe that we came from animals, they will question the idea of morality.
4) Some evolutionists believe that man is a god.
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@SylentIntensity1122 1) Nonsense, high pressure and air make up have nothing to do with the bible, it's incredibly dishonest to claim an achievement made by scientist that are actually doing their homework.research.
2) Domestication is older by far then the bible, and if you believe that spots, stripes, or any other pattern has anything to do with what kind of stick you'll let them face while mating, you're a loon.
3) Archaeology does not study the geological collumns nor does it study fossils
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@DodoPandemic
"...high pressure and air make up have nothing to do with the bible..."
I'm supposed to confide in the credibility of someone who says that archaeology has nothing to do with fossils or the geological columns? LOL Do you know that petrified trees have been found growing upwards into geologic layers that are supposedly millions of years old? In the fossil record many creatures' remains are found that are a great deal larger than their modern counterparts (Gen 6:4).
SylentIntensity1122 5 days ago
@SylentIntensity1122 And I am suposed to rely on the espertise of someone who doesn't know it's geology for the geographical columns and paleontology for fossils and dinosaurs?
DodoPandemic 2 days ago
@DodoPandemic
For all we know, Gregor Mendel (the monk who pioneered the study of genetics) could have been inspired by Scripture. You should read about the studies of Carl Baugh. He got the idea that maybe creatures were larger in pre-ancient times because of atmospheric pressure . This guy has been able to grow 1 foot long piranha under hyperbaric conditions. Whatever the reason for larger creatures in the fossil record, it is damaging to the theory of macro-evolution.
SylentIntensity1122 2 days ago
@DodoPandemic
Kei Mori, a Japanese scientist, was able to grow a tomato plant to produce thousands of tomatoes using pressurized CO2 and filtered light. What about the chart we see in the science books showing the supposed evolution of the horse? That chart was proved to be false decades ago- the small horse depicted in the chart was discovered to be still living in South America. Creatures were larger in pre-ancient times, and in light of evolution, this just doesn't make sense.
SylentIntensity1122 2 days ago
@SylentIntensity1122 It is clear from your post you don't even have a high-school level understanding of evolution. Pathetic.
mitchellagomez 2 days ago
@mitchellagomez
Oh, I understand it alright. If I understood it any more I think it would actually make me dumber. Go figure...XD
SylentIntensity1122 2 days ago
@SylentIntensity1122 do you know what genome sequencing is then? i will get to my point when you answer this question.
1991stratplus 1 day ago
@1991stratplus
Genome sequencing is a laboratory process which allows an organism's entire genome sequence to be known all at once. Since a complete set of an organism's chromosomes contain quite a lengthy genome sequence, high-computing power is often necessary. Please state your point.
SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
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1991stratplus 1 day ago
@SylentIntensity1122 thanks for responding, as you well know, chimps, gorillas and orangutan have have 48 chromosomes (24 pairs) and Humans have 46 (23 pairs) my question to you is.. How come human chromosome #2 has telomeres in the center of the chromosome #2. Also on ether side of the of the telemeres in Chromosome #2 there is a centromere? If you truly understand Genome Sequencing this question should be very easy to understand. Any geneticist will agree with me.
1991stratplus 1 day ago
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SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
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SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
@SylentIntensity1122 Your answer doesn't make any sense?
1991stratplus 1 day ago
@1991stratplus
Well, what is your answer to your own question? Could it have something to do with humans being descended from orangutans?
SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
@SylentIntensity1122 Nope, you got it totally wrong. You don't even know what this implies do you. If you actually understood Genome sequencing of primates you would know what i talking about, this is very simple to understand if you knew anything about genetics. See ya later, i don't debate with someone who lies.
1991stratplus 1 day ago
@1991stratplus
You win. You are the intellectual. NEXT!
SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
@SylentIntensity1122 You used to be a evolutionist did you. I doubt it it, evolution has never said humans descended from orangutangs "Could it have something to do with humans being descended from orangutans?"
sandcut1 22 hours ago
@sandcut1
Ok, fine. It says mankind descended from APES. You know what I meant. I just had the feeling that maybe you didn't even understand evolution, since you were talking about orangutans.
SylentIntensity1122 20 hours ago
@SylentIntensity1122 Could it mean possibly that we share a common ancestor, I think he is referring to ken Miller's argument who happens to be a creationist like you. I also doubt you ever believed evolution because you don't even understand it, also because no one who believes in evolution refers to them selves as an evolutionist. NEXT!!
sandcut1 22 hours ago
@1991stratplus
Maybe because the chromosomes were made by the same Designer?
SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
@1991stratplus
For what it's worth, I was once an evolutionist. Once I stepped back, took some time to really examine it, and realized how silly it is...WOW! My feelings ranged from amused to downright anti-conspiratorial. I could plead with everyone who has not already taken some time to really examine the theory of evolution outside the paleo-babble that makes it sound so plausible. Once a person's eye's are opened it really does sound quite...bananas!
SylentIntensity1122 1 day ago
@SylentIntensity1122 cont. The geological layers and fossil deposits are absolutely not deposited in the way you would expect with a flood, we find the fossils as you would expect and as predicted by the theory of evolution, each deposited according to time it lived and not by size of the creature which would have been the case in a flood.
5. Wrong again it is a ancient Greek ideal, based on the Prometheus myth.
Stop claiming achievements that have nothing to do with your bronze age ideas.
DodoPandemic 5 days ago
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SylentIntensity1122 5 days ago
I don't understand it so it can't be true!
madmiguelh2o 6 days ago
title should be the other way around ha go Hovind! ftw
tnafguy1 1 week ago
He has not "seen" evidence. He has seen a theory. The student didn't prove a thing.
357MagnumBob 1 week ago
@357MagnumBob Maybe he should take the trouble and actually go to a natural history museum, open a book other then the bible, etc, and not expect every damned thing to be handed to him in byte sized chunks on a silver platter. You know, do some work by himself for a change?
DodoPandemic 1 week ago 2
I don't like the way my taxes are going to pay for Hovind's meals in prison. The guy should just fucking starve.
Casshyr 3 weeks ago 6
Well this is sad, and clouds the issue. Just because one man who has the truth is not well at putting it out does not mean the truth does not exist. LAME video......
Gadhouser 1 month ago
@Gadhouser Unfortunately mr. Hovind is not putting out any truths, whatsoever. It is he who is clouding the issue, by spreading misinformation about what the theory of evolution actually says, maintaining the view that it is an atheist theory, which it is not. If any of his 'theories' were plausible he'd not be afraid to submit them to peer review, but he's not in it for the truth, he wants ignorant and trusting believers to keep on buying his nonsense on video, he's in it for the money.
DodoPandemic 3 weeks ago 4
@Gadhouser Just out of interest & in a slightly different question regarding Creationist justifications for their beliefs I was wondering how the idea explains the fact that we can see the light from stars from millions of light years away if the planets less than 10,000 years old? Or likewise how coral rings indicate they are 10's or 100's of thousand years old? (evolution in itself doesn't disprove the idea of God, but is another reason to dismiss Creationism).
JimBCameron 2 weeks ago
@Gadhouser If you claim something is true, produce evidence for it. Creationists can not do that. Creationists only refer to the Bible and say God did it.
I can prove the God of the Bible is a liar. God claims to love everyone. If you love people could you do this to them? "The Lord commands: "... slay old men outright, young men and maidens, little children and women" (Ezechial 9:4-6)
HighCardWins 2 weeks ago
@HighCardWins Do you realize Ezechial 9 : 4-6 is prophesy? It is a vision of the future. A prophesy that was given to Ezechial so that he might warn and prevent this horrible event from happening?
redddbaron 1 week ago
@ScientificBob Also he should know that it was from genetic similarities between hippos and whales that led scientists to discover three intermediate species geographically located in between where hippos and whales live, respectfully. DNA leads to the discovery of three intermediate species fossils...
netisforporn666 1 month ago
"I don't want to pay for that to be taught in schools"
Well Mr. Hovind, how many people don't want to pay for your meals in Prison?
TheAsymmetrical 1 month ago 16
I stopped your video at the 0:01 mark because only an idiot would show a picture of Hovind with the word Fucktard under his name. This shows that you are closed minded and therefore your video will be a pile of garbage. I was willing to watch with an open mind until I saw how idiotic your vid started.
TheGreekMan1981 2 months ago
@TheGreekMan1981
"Fucktard"
¿Theres a better word to describe him?
HAHA!
Elohir2 1 month ago
@TheGreekMan1981
Actually the video itself was the point not the picture nor the opinion of the poster. If you actually had a working brain you would know fully that hovind is a lying piece of shit and mostly definately a fucking tard.
Killer0fTheSun 1 month ago
@TheGreekMan1981 1. Stopping after 1 second because someone called your hero fucktard isn't 'willing to watch with an open mind', that's closeminded.
2. Making assumptions about me in that 1 second is another example of closemindedness. If you'd have read the title you'd have concluded that this video is a mirror.
3. Starting with the last video of this series shows either your poor reading/counting skills or that you had no interest in the context anyway and wanted something to cry about.
DodoPandemic 1 month ago
@DodoPandemic actions speak louder than words
polliwantscrack 2 weeks ago
@TheGreekMan1981 "only an idiot would show a picture of Hovind with the word Fucktard under his name."
There are a large number of creationists who would call kent hovind much worse names then fucktard. He's a liar, and easily demonstrated as such.
Almost every word he utters in clear violation of the 9th commandment. No matter what side you take on a debate, you don't want Kent Hovind to agree with you, it make you look bad by extension.
Craigmw45 1 week ago
Once again Hovind creates a straw man, knocks it down and claims victory. He doesn't appear to have any understanding of the evolutionary process as it is defined by science.
MrToby9999 2 months ago
fucktard ?!? Tell us how you really feel.
Yes dogs make dogs. Apes make apes. That is why humans are still apes.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz
the real point here is that if a dog gave birth to a human evolution most certainly would not be true, because that is not how evolution works, the fact that kent believes that is proof for evolution shows that he has no idea what he is talking about and ends the argument right there!
TheTycarroll 2 months ago
@TheTycarroll Exactly, but try telling that to a person (Kent Hovind) that has the debating skill of a five year old who's primary technique consists of jamming his fingers in his ears and screaming "lalalalalalala, I can't hear you!" I mean the dude's been in prison for several years now and still his arguments are parroted by creationists, they still think that Martin is a student, while this vid's been up for over 3 years. Martin's a fellow researcher now, Kent an inmate... nuff said.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@DodoPandemic
Kent might not understand a lot of what he is talking about but he raises some good points...i am agnostic not a Anti-god believer which i was for many years so even now there are certain aspects of evolution including stellar and cosmic evolution etc. that i take for granted and it helps to be reminded every now and again that there really are some very large gaps in our understanding of the universe...that being said we know a lot more than he suggests
TheTycarroll 2 months ago
@TheTycarroll Agnosticism and atheism are not mutually exclusive, I'm an agnostic atheist myself, I don't claim to know that there is no God, I just haven't seen any evidence that points towards it. Also evolution only applies to living things, it may sound like good points from Hovind but it is moot since there is no such thing as stellar or cosmic evolution. Yes I agree that there are large gaps in our knowledge ....cont
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@TheTycarroll and it is humbling to realize that we are not all knowing, exciting to realize that there is enough left to be discovered. But where I am very comfortable to admit that I do not know a lot of things, the creationist fills the unknown with his God each time and claims it is absolute.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@DodoPandemic
exactly thats why i don't agree with kent when he says that believing in the big bang is a religion...just because we do not yet understand something doesn't mean we aren't trying to find better understanding, sure it does require some belief but at least there is some proof behind it!
TheTycarroll 2 months ago
@TheTycarroll I agree, in this case belief does not equal faith.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@TheTycarroll "i am agnostic not a Anti-god believer " No idea what that is supposed to mean.
"there are certain aspects of evolution including stellar and cosmic evolution" You are mixing cosmology, physics and biology. Please don't.
"there really are some very large gaps " And the way to resolve that situation is study and research to fill those gaps with knowledge instead of just waving with the bible like an idiot.
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@ScientificBob
DA FUCK are you talking about?
TheTycarroll 2 months ago
In one video, Kent showed us epic fail knowledge when it comes to meiosis and mitosis.
CaptainAwesomeoh13 2 months ago
This grad student is just bloviating to conceal his confusion. Hovind correctly makes the point that genetic information is limited to its purpose and kind. a mutation jump from one family to another is absurd and has never been observed in fossils or in living organisms. Bio student got owned.
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 Define kind, please.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@DodoPandemic "Kind" in the Bible creation record refers to the "family" in modern taxonomy. "And God created each creature after it's own kind."
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 Is that the official creationist definition or yours? Since you guys jump from one definition to another. Also no where in the theory of evolution does it claim that a snail can turn into a fish, this is not a problem for the theory but a problem of you understanding it. Would you find such a thing, like an acorn growing out of a human you'd get the nobel prize for disproving evolution.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 So what Kind / Family are Humans in?
The Hominidae (anglicized hominids, also known as great apes), as the term is used here, form a taxonomic family, including four extant genera: chimpanzees (Pan), gorillas (Gorilla), humans (Homo), and orangutans (Pongo). Wikipedia
Nice try.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@gregrutz Seeing as how the "taxonomic tables" are an offshoot of evolution, perhaps I should be more specific and say the the Bible "kinds" would refer to genus and species.. The Bible does not teach man or any other life form ascends from lower life forms so taxonomy is just an erroneous convention in this regard.
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 What? You are a mammal if evolution is fact or fiction. You are a primate even if evolution is wrong. Kinds make kinds. A dog will always make a dog even if in a million years the dog can fly, it will still be a flying dog.
gregrutz 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 This is exactly what I mean with creationist definitions, first you say kind equals family, now it is genus or species?!? Those are 3 different things you've said it meant in the last 48 hours!
Btw have you found the page yet where it says cows turn into whales, I'll also be happy with snails into fish if that would make it easier for you.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 "the Bible "kinds" would refer to genus and species" Well, look at that... moving the goal post, what a surprise.
So according to this 'new and improved' definition you give us for the word "kind", the bible predicts that speciation is impossible.
So, if we would observe speciation... that would prove the bible incorrect.
I suggest you google "observed speciation". So... what now?
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@ScientificBob Taxonomy is a parallel convention of evolution. It's paradigm is lower to higher life forms. that's why it is impossible to use this model in a Biblical setting. God created Man as man, cows as cows, birds as bird etc. The absurdity of homo sapiens being in the order of primates is pagan science. There are no progressions, only adaptations. A poodle is still in the Wolf family of canines. It is a dog, it will always be a dog.
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 "Taxonomy is a parallel convention of evolution" No, it's not.
"The absurdity of homo sapiens being in the order of primates is pagan science"
Humans were classified as primates long before Darwin came up with his hypothesis. By a catholic priest even.
"A poodle is still in the Wolf family of canines" Yes. And a poodle is also still a mammal. And a tetrapod.
"It is a dog, it will always be a dog" Evolution doesn't predict otherwise.
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 "any other life form ascends from lower life forms so taxonomy is just an erroneous convention in this regard. "
Wauw, that's what I call 'exposing your ignorance with pride'.
Taxonomy is JUST how we classify species. It just so happens to correspond perfectly with evolution theory. FYI: the reason that that is the case, is because evolution is bang on the money.
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 ""Kind" in the Bible creation record refers to the "family" in modern taxonomy"
Are you aware that the family Hominidea includes humans, gorilla's, chimpansee's, ... ?
Kinda shot yourself in the foot on that one, didn't you?
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 What do you mean it is limited to its purpose?. Most DNA does not encode any proteins ie does not have a 'purpose'. by the way. What do you mean by kind? Most fossils do not have recoverable DNA. What is a mutation jump. You don't seem to have a solid enough understanding of genetics to disprove it. Better stick to providing evidence for your alternate explanation. This is where it goes quiet.
friendsofthepenan 2 months ago
@friendsofthepenan Just what it it sounds like. The information can be rearranged to produce variation, but it cannot "mutate" into another kingdom over time. That is the "jump" that is the backbone of macro evolution. To make it simple for you, a snail cannot become a fish.
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 That is not the backbone of macro evolution, it merely shows your lack of knowledge of the theory and your ability to parrot Hovind.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@DodoPandemic Oh but it is. Every fifth grader has seen the "evolutionary tree." Brilliant piece of ridiculous fantasy. Cows into Whales. LOL.
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 Again, your reply shows only your ignorance on the subject at hand, I challenge you to give me the page and or chapter from 'The origin of species' where it is claimed that cows turn into whales.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 ""evolutionary tree." Brilliant piece of ridiculous fantasy. Cows into Whales"
I challenge you to show us a single paper that states that cows evolved into whales.
Seriously, if you don't know what you are talking about, you should shut the hell up.
Cows and whales SHARE an ancester. Cows are NOT a whale ancestor. They SHARE an ancester. Just like chimps are not our ancestors. We SHARE one.
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 Mutations of DNA do happen all the time. When it does information may be lost, changed duplicated or added to. Yes your right there is no "jump" but the accumulation of the above changes and the variation by rearrangement over vast amounts of time lead to new species and eventually new kingdoms arose from very primitive ancestors. You clearly do not understand the concept well enough to refute it.
friendsofthepenan 2 months ago
@friendsofthepenan Not so. It can be changed only within the parameters of what is available. And mutations only cause weakness and eventual demise. Your "long periods of time" statement is just an evolutionary canard that they hide behind to cover their total lack of evidence. There are NO transitional fossils and nobody has witnessed a non synthetic transgenetic mutation that is a viable organism. It's all a fabricated myth.
TheThumper49 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 I'm afraid yes so. Frame shift caused by insertion or deletion mutations can give rise to entirely new genes is just one example. With many documented instances. mutations are sometimes beneficial eg. penicillin resistance. Search 'increase in information' the first video deals with this topic in more detail than can be afforded in comments. I don't know where you studied molecular genetics but you are missing some fundamental and rudimentary understandings of the topic.
friendsofthepenan 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 "And mutations only cause weakness and eventual demise" Demonstrably false.
"There are NO transitional fossils " Before I spam you with dozens of them, please define what you understand by the term "transitional"? What properties should a fossil have for you to recognise it as a transitional fossil?
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@TheThumper49 "it cannot "mutate" into another kingdom over time."'
If that were to happen, it would falsify evolution theory, dumbass.
Seriously, why is it that all the people who argue against evolution theory seem to no understand a word of it?
ScientificBob 2 months ago
This laughable moron is sitting in prison planning new ways to look completely fucking STUPID.
Tris67 2 months ago
Jesus Christ is real and your knowledge of science is foolish and nothing. the uploader and this bio-grad student that propbably has no life except trying to find where we came from. remind me of the old greek empire and look at there philosiphy now...hmmmmm. yeah didnt last right. wiped out. While the word of God remains. Keep seeking your answer on where we came from uploader sooner or later you have to return to dust. Just like there is a physical death to pay here, there is also a second
LASuper38 2 months ago
@LASuper38 lmfao,one word... Democracy. You tool!
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@DodoPandemic duh ralph! I swear scientist inbred into a dumber breed.
LASuper38 2 months ago
@LASuper38 So you don't get it at all I see, seems you';re the only inbred here. You have no idea how much we still use of the old greek philosophy that according to you got wiped out. Think before you type.
DodoPandemic 2 months ago
@LASuper38 The difference is that the bio-grad IS trying to find out where we came from with testable, observable evidence, while you accept your religion as the answer because it feels more comfortable. Your "word of god" remains, but it is not the only one. Islam, Bhuddism, and Hinduism are just a few others. Those gods lasted too. Does that mean they are all right? You see my point? Just because a story is passed down many generations does not make it true.
Andromedonian 2 months ago
the absolute worst debater- jesus would slap the shit out of him, if he were real.
imalearnyou 2 months ago
@theagateman,Mutations?
tontobones 2 months ago
Too many straw men
CriminalBabies 2 months ago
This is my first exposure to Kent Hovind. He's the worst.
JonasAlbrecht 2 months ago
If it takes new information to advance beyond a place of development where does that information originate from,if what has evolved is limited to its own resources?
TheAgateman1 3 months ago
The sad thing about such conversations is that the creationtards never realise that they have been handed their own asses...
ScientificBob 3 months ago
Kent 1 student 0.
jbaum1982 3 months ago
@jbaum1982 Ahh... excellent.... points scored for religious fundamentalist fervour and delusion. Kenty Boy wins the day!
CarajilloDulce 3 months ago
I found this to be the most frustrating video. Kent and that other guy consistently ask him for examples of how evolution can be falsified, the student keeps giving examples and they just go "no, no, no". If indeed a human was found with a pinecone growing out of his head, that would certainly violate evolutionary theory, especially if no good reason could be found. However, the model of evolution currently and common ancestory works because we do not find these things and it is testable.
dallased25 3 months ago
bio-evolution grad student fail!
marioakayoyo 3 months ago
Hovind explained the Biblical account of Noah as follows: Noah's family and two of every "kind" of animal (including young dinosaurs)[43] safely boarded the Ark before a −300 °F (−184 °C) ice meteor came flying toward the Earth and broke up in space. Some of the meteor fragments became rings and others caused the impact craters on the moon and some of the planets. The remaining ice fragments fell to the North and South Poles of the Earth.
How can you NOT believe this?
spnebula 3 months ago
@spnebula It's complete bollox which is why it's easy not to believe. He could better have explained that Noah's ark was actually a space ship where all life was cryogenically preserved whilst God did all the post ice meteor renovations to planet Earth. As part of the renovation God made marijuana in the hope that one day, if people smoked enough of it, they'd believe idiots like Kent Hovind, Ray Comfort, and Ken Ham. Unfortunately even total stoners could see through their charade. Happy Hiking
CarajilloDulce 3 months ago
@CarajilloDulce God designed coconut to test our faith in him. We need to work hard with our machette to open it. It is good for muscles and bones. Why do you think Noah and his family carried with them bacteria and viruses that cause bubonic plague, chicken pox, small pox, Human papilloma virus, Polio, syphillis, gonorroehea, cancer causing viruses, brain encephelitis, genital wart viruses? Think about it and you will find god who helped Noah carry all those bad stuff to test our faith.
spnebula 3 months ago
@spnebula Excellent.... and I suppose god put you on this earth to test my patience. Obviously you are having a laugh at YEEC fundamentalists expense. Good luck with that... I'm sure there are a few YEECs out there who actually think that you're for real! And don't forget... god loves even the most virulent bacteria.
CarajilloDulce 3 months ago
@CarajilloDulce "God loves even the most virulent bacteria." ...Says who? God hates the way the world has become. He hates sin. There are many things in the bible that God clearly detests. READ the bible first (I suggest KJV), don't just skim through, and then express your opinions. Not trying to bash you, or start an argument AT ALL... It's like me saying "The 1995 Ford Taurus has a poorly designed alternator" without having a clear understanding of it's electrical and charging system at all.
whatnamesnottakenyet 3 months ago
@whatnamesnottakenyet I have read the bible. I was introduced to it at an early age and have since made a study of comparative religions. Maybe you should read the associated comments on this page. You would then likely deduce that "god loves even the most virulent bacteria" was written as a joke. Then again, how do you know that god (if there is indeed a god) does not love all his creations? For that matter, how do you know what god thinks at all?
CarajilloDulce 3 months ago
@whatnamesnottakenyet
"There are many things in the bible that God clearly detests."
indeed....homosexuals, non-jews,shell fish, pigs...people who want evidence instead of blind faith
strangely enough YHWH doesnt hate rape, slavery, murdering entire cities, infanticide, beating your slaves brutally(unless they die in a few days, then you're in trouble), cursing fig trees because they have no fruit out of season....a fascinating reading that bible thing......
sabin97 3 months ago
@spnebula Because most of us have had physics in high school, the temperature of that meteorite is irrelevant, and it is the mass (the mass of Antarctica would be enough to kill every living thing on earth) that gives the meteorite it's destructive power. The impact of 2 of them would give Noah a whole set of other problems then just flood water.
DodoPandemic 3 months ago
There is too much scientific evidence from thousands of scientists from all over the world to prove that evolution is dead wrong. Peer-reviewed science literature is littered with evidence against evolution. There is scientific evidence for creation of the world in 6 days. All creationsists believe that and they have read published papers, but god-hating atheists won't read them. When I went hiking, I thought I saw dinosaurs and demons, but I was scared to see where they went.
spnebula 3 months ago
@spnebula I guess that's why the vast majority of the scientific community favour the theory of evolution..... they just haven't spent enough time hiking with dinosaurs and demons!
CarajilloDulce 3 months ago
@CarajilloDulce You must see Banana man's banana illustration that proves creationism. He uses a ripe banana to prove how god made banana to fit humans hand. An athiest simply cannot explain why a banana is curved so that it is angled in a perfect way to be eaten by a man.
spnebula 3 months ago
@spnebula I have seen it. Ray Comfort is a complete idiot. Why would some mystical deity stop with the banana? Why not design all food stuffs so that they can be so easily consumed? Ever tried opening a coconut fresh from the tree without using a machete? I guess this deity of yours was also too busy hiking with dinosaurs and demons to get around to it!
CarajilloDulce 3 months ago
@spnebula Ok at the risk that you're just trolling.... The banana Ray Comfort uses is not a wild banana, which doesn't look anything like the banana's which grow in the wild. It is through pollination and selection by the industry how it got it's shape and colour, we made Ray's banana.
DodoPandemic 3 months ago
@spnebula "You must see Banana man's banana illustration "
This, I assume to be a confirmation of what I was thinking earlier.
You're a trolling Poe.
ScientificBob 3 months ago
@ScientificBob I have seen that I was very impressed by the design of banana for man. Coconut was designed by god so that men work hard to open it so that men become stronger and wiser. Apple was made red (danger sign) so that Eve could see the danger sign. Jackfruit was designed in such a way that forced the mankind to design tools to open it and cherish the taste of that fruit. Onion was created to cause tears so that tears can cleanse our eyes every now and then. They found Noahs Ark.
Starnebula100 3 months ago
@Starnebula100 And your mother's a-hole was made for you to crawl in.
ScientificBob 3 months ago
@ScientificBob I suppose you are speaking from experience. Just look at water molecule and you will notice weak hydrogen bonds holding each other. Such beautiful structure proves God's existence.
Starnebula100 2 months ago
@Starnebula100 "Such beautiful structure proves God's existence"
LOL, if you say so.
In reality, off course, when the circumstances allow for it, 2 hydrogen atoms bind with an oxygen atom to form a water molecule through simple chemistry. No gods or unicorns are needed to do that.
ScientificBob 2 months ago
@ScientificBob Finger mails are designed for fine scratching, pubic hair designed to give warmth and comfort to the vital organ, fingers are designed for multiple pleasure activities, tongue is loose for talking/eating/pleasure activity. Buttock for cushions, rain to wash animals and trees that don't have shower facility, wind designed to remove dust off of your cars and houses, dog tail curves upward so that shit does not hit the tail. He cares. They provide proof for ONE GOD.
Starnebula100 2 months ago
@Starnebula100 Ok. Gonna call Poe on this one. Bye troll.
ScientificBob 2 months ago
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@spnebula "Peer-reviewed science literature is littered with evidence against evolution. There is scientific evidence for creation of the world in 6 days. "
The bible is not a peer-reviewed scientific paper, dumbass.
ScientificBob 3 months ago
Is it me or does a argument of a creatonist that goes against evolution always sounds so dumb look at jaudett130 argument and dodopandemic response
And why cant one christian answer one simple Q
Why does a loving god let a whole country like africa starve, No rain a whole year, went there? or only saw the commercials on tv?.. seriously realiy is 10x more worse then they can show you. And not only t hat I can't stand how people can be spoiled like in Sweet 16 why would god maket his so unbalanced
jonh387 4 months ago
@jonh387 GOD is testing us. GOD works in mysterious ways. GOD knoweth all. GOD designed DOG so that we can appreciate things seen from the other side. You have to see banana man video to understand the power of GOD.
Starnebula100 2 months ago
Hovind's smart enough to realize that most creationists are clueless about science, but not smart enough to stay out of prison. I hope he's getting reamed for Jeebus right now.
ndrthrdr1 4 months ago
Dude, that was priceless! I was in stitches most of the time! This kid really tore him a new one! Awesome post! Subbed!
metalskinstudios 4 months ago
Biggest fallacy of creationists....
Disproving evolution (not that they have ever been able to)
does not PROVE Creationism....
ottootis1 4 months ago
Evolution no matter the arguments is impossible going back to the big bang what exploded? Your saying there is scientific evidence for evolution, ok how did the elements evolve hmmm? How did planets evolve from nothing? God created the heavens and earth no questions asked believe it or not it's all there your the willingly ignorant ones
jaudette130 4 months ago
@jaudette130 Well the universe including us is all there... at least as far as we perceive it, but just because we can't explain everything does not necessarily mean that some mysterious creator deity is responsible for it. There's even less evidence to suggest that a supernatural deity created everything, or for that matter even exists, than there is to support the theory of evolution. All you're doing with filling in the gaps in our understanding by saying "God did it" which explains nothing.
CarajilloDulce 4 months ago
@jaudette130 Evolution has nothing to do with the Big Bang, nor with the formation of elements or planets and stars. Evolution explains the diversity of life, not the origin of it, so your questions make no sense at all. "how did the elements evolve hmmm?" Elements don't evolve they are formed through nucleosynthesis. " How did planets evolve from nothing?" Again planets do not evolve they are also formed.
DodoPandemic 4 months ago 11
@DodoPandemic And if I may add, planets didn't form from nothing. That's not science's idea and actually the law of conservation of matter forbids such a thing to happen. However that's how Christians believe it happened. We have scientific evidence and rationale as to how the elements and planets came to be. But what we've never seen is anything being made from nothing as the myth states.
SeireiNoRyu 3 months ago
@jaudette130 lol. thats all.
1991rayder 4 months ago
@jaudette130 So which god created the universe and what proof do you have it's yours.
666nonbeliever 4 months ago
@jaudette130 Evolution by Natural Selection is totally different from questions of the origins of the universe and, even, from the question of initial life-forms. Your question about "what exploded" in the big bang shows that you have no conception of what the "big bang" is. Synthesis of heavy elements in stars after the "big bang" has some unanswered questions, but they have nothing to do with evolution. Ignorance does not equal righteous indignation.
FinnMcRiangabra 3 months ago
hovind is one scary cunt,but so are all book burners.
megamus3 4 months ago
Hey, thanks for the great stuff by Hovind. I'm indebted to you.
sotrder 4 months ago
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I witnessed Hovind, before he went into the slammer, being "handed his ass" many times.
I wonder if he minds having "his ass handled" in the meantime? - Lol!
Tobytrim 4 months ago
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Tobytrim 4 months ago
The illusion of what?
Chwuzy 4 months ago
I don't understand that "dogs from non-dogs" argument. I've heard him pose it many times but it doesn't make any sense. Especially because we know that dogs came from non-dogs since we did it ourselves with selective breeding. That's just artificial selection and if anything bringing dogs up is a bad idea because it's evidence for the existence of natural selection.
rougarou88 5 months ago
@rougarou88 Kent is trying to say that evolution supposedly states that dogs produce non-dogs; that they produce something unrelated to themselves (such as one thing giving birth to something from another lineage). Where he is missing the point is that a Clade branches into more specific daughter sets that over time might not look like their ancestors, but are still members of that Clade. He doesn't see the link between the nodes.
PikminDS 4 months ago
Kent Hovind is a dumbass, he should have gotten a month for every hour of seminar he ever did in his career.
gredangeo 5 months ago 6
Kent Hovind is a genuis.. you uneducated twats.
thap8tient 5 months ago
@thap8tient How so?
AndresPetMonkey 5 months ago
@thap8tient A genius?!! Hah! Good one.
BrooklynRagtag 5 months ago
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@thap8tient Apparently, so are you....
aubreyannemoore 4 months ago
Nothing he says makes any sense, nor has it been backed by any credible sources. He just runs his mouth and bashes people for having an opposing opinion. It would be interesting to see him undergo psychoanalysis. And those are the good things I have to say about him...
aubreyannemoore 4 months ago
personally I think Hovind should have got 10 years for that, never mind the tax evasion
SysyphusJones 5 months ago
And that is why it is utterly pointless arguing with creationists, Its obvious Kent understood exactly the points being made and that his usual bull was not going to wash with someone who had the knowledge to refute it and bring him back to reality. He heard it, but he just could not listen. Not much money in his game in admitting your wrong i suppose. The battle, the only one worth fighting with these guys is to keep them as far from any classroom as humanly possible.
phinch1234 5 months ago
Don't know if this was posted already, but here's an example of an animal/chlorophyll combination: Green Sea Slug (tried to post a link but couldn't)
anton980 6 months ago
you know what i dont support with my tax money Ken...feeding Prisoners...how would you like it if the majority of society decided against that? Maybe you ask God to help you 'evolve' into being able to eat iron bars you fraudulent pig
DaytonaRoadster 6 months ago
4:16-4:45 aw hell, every single comment: DAMN STRAIGHT!!!
SchrodingersWaffle 6 months ago
creation vs evolution . freeforums. org
purdyr 9 months ago
Since we seem to be going round and round on the science aspect, why don't we look at it from another angle.
If God made this world 6000 years ago, flooded the planet 4500 years ago, then showed himself to a group of people off and on for 1000 years, then actually came and lived among us for 33 years....
....maybe we should start looking there too.
What do the eyewitness accounts say?
Laylow4now 9 months ago
AHAHA kent got this kid
SADSF123 1 year ago
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"AHAHA kent got this kid "
I really wonder what kind of mental deformation someone must have undergone to believe this. Hovind was stumped by each and every comment that kid made.
MomoTheBellyDancer 6 months ago
Kent Hovind is just ridiculous, dogs produce non dogs. you violate common sense hovind. and quit masquerading as a scientist because you read a few science books. you are not a scientist!!!
lhurien 1 year ago
I would have lost it and bitch slapped kent hovind.
Newenlightenmentnow 1 year ago
We didn't evolve from modern fish >:(
TwilightAronXD 2 years ago
Sometimes I wonder if we should call Kent Hovind stuff like Fucktard.
Then I slap myself and remember that he deserves it.
Syychro 2 years ago 3
haha next time slap the first creotard you come acros and remember he deserves :-D
Saves you some pain on the cheek ;-)
DodoPandemic 2 years ago
Are there plants that move? Well define "move" because yes there are. Plants grab flies in the venus fly trap. Or ivy can "walk" as it grows out, makes new roots and loses the old roots. If you repeat over and over the plant is technically "walking" accross the land.
irishmauddib 3 years ago
Kevins mistake here is to think that the further in time you get and the more complex you get then the more DNA you get.
He thinks amoeba are simpler so should have less DNA. Not so.
He thinks things that evolve FIRST should have LESS dna. This is also not so.
The QUANTITY of DNA has no implication in evolution. Just like the file size of a JPG image doesnt tell you how complex the color content will be. A black and white image can have a bigger file size than a photo of a rainbow.
irishmauddib 3 years ago 9