Every time i see videos of the way they use to compete i'm stunned. Nowadays I'm used to the tip tappy point karate shit... this on the other hand is fucking badass and shows shotokan being applied at a highly competitive, full contact, live scenario...i fucking looove this!
Elwyn and I trained in the same dojo as kyu-grades - but he was quite the athlete and rapidly left most us trailing behind. Fighting him was like trying to stand up against a gale filled with hail - a blinding flurry of arms and legs that wore you down until a hole appeared in your guard, when he would strike. Also one of the nicest guys you could meet - a real gentleman.
@twodeltas - You're absoluely right, it's hard to imgine, when you see him fight; just what a nice guy he really is, nothing like you might imagine. He's one of the funniest blokes, a lugh a minute, and generous as well.
@200374 Nowadays they're not so keen on it. He is basically giving a low kick. Today's competition dandies would probably take a dive and try for a disqualification if you kicked their leg that hard.
@olev456 ... depends what federations rules you compete under ... back then in his day they were ok ... and mostly shotokan rules these days they are still allowing that type of " kick " sweep ... WKF rules wont though ... they think it causes too much injury ... modern points fighting is just getting too soft now is my opinion ...
competition has gone soft, not the training. Anyone who thinks it has should come the triangle in Liverpool. I can understand why competition has, people getting broken bones for nothing, but the training certainly hasn't. Elwyn fought at the most exciting time for Karate aswell as Frank, Ronnie Christopher, George Best, Jimmy Brennan, Myles Draper, Ronnie Cambell etc whent hey all fought it was exciting, not worth a carrot now, the comps that is, not the training.
@scullysedge It is the most famous karate style now days. That makes it likely that there are more poor dojos out there. More than in some. Not that there wouldn't be in every style..
I have traind on a course with this guy and he really does know his stuff. Constantly urging you on and some how enthuses you. Nice bloke as well, friendly and has a laugh when the course is ended.
hes got what a lot of fighters today lack. courage...hes not afraid to get right in there. his ki\chi is phenom like cmon mother fucker me or you ( you know ). hes like right there in your face ready to mix it up. confident, sharp and drawing from the kata and flavor.
i have trained with elwyn on and off over the years, and he trained with my late intructor at grove park back in the day jim patterson. its a shame that karate has gone a bit soft now,` as someone has said you can not hit to hard at comps.
but as long as elwyn is around and i known that i can still get a good work out-and as for elwyn he is the NUTS!.
I do kung fu and this video shows what shotokan karate should really be like, not some krotty, but ['kharate], same with kung fu, not kung foo but gongfu ['gong fu,], meaning hard work. This video gets 5 stars from me. The good thing is that the gongfu that I practice involves sparring similar to this, but with protective gear we go full contact. We, like in this video, try to apply every move we learn.
I just trained with Elwyn this weekend at Weston-Super-Mare at an all grades course. He came down and trained with the clubs from the FBSKUI. I am only a yellow belt but my god, this man was tearing all our black belts apart even now. His power is incredible and he's a nice guy too. Good course! If you get a chance, go and see him.
I trained with Elwyn also, and i must say that if you ever get the oppertunity to train with him, then make sure you do. Every aspect of his fighting was amazing and he was so strong with every move that he did. I had to stand up why he did an example in front of the class, and even tough it werent full power, it still killed days after. What a guy
shotokan used to be good but competitions are too soft nowadays. its too easy to get disqualified. this video shows what we need to get back to if we're to survive the death of enoida.
I have noticed in Shotokan schools the decline in the emphasis on mastering the kihon well. Students tend to rush through the kata instead of gradually building on the more basic kata. Classes run for only one hour whereas before it used to bef or 2 hours. And I think its easier to earn a blackbelt nowadays, even in the JKA one can get it in maybe 3 years. Before training was harder and stricter. I lament this as well.
I remember seeing him at pickets lock in the mid 80's he was awesome, i was glad i was in a different category i won mine but know he would have stuffed me with that awesome diashi!
To bad this guy is to old now for the UFC I'm preatty sure that if had been in the early competitions of the UFC he would had kick some gracy ju-jitsu butt.
THE best fighter on youtube. You rarely see anyone even do a good foot sweep, it's a great technique. This is pretty typical of top of the line WUKO fighting, tokey hill or billy blanks caliber.
Wow! I have ben wondering for a long time who he was, not knowing. Im glad I can now put a name on the poster I need to buy. I myself train JKA, but havent seen such strength and agility in a fighter since Tanaka and Yahara. I am very, very impressed. Thank you for posting this. Osu!
As a person who was at the vast majority of the fights shown i can only say this - Nanananana!!! Thankfully we have legend to provide it for us all - Elwyn Hall was astonishing and probably still is - I know how to beat him though - Transit Van - run him over when he aint looking!LOL
Strategy: hidari ushiro geri chudan, hidari ashi barai and migi mawashi geri chudan. Finish.
stefandetrez 4 months ago
I ts really great to see a guy who can perform at this level, yet he has no ego, and GREAT control.
njtr 4 months ago
Another shotokan monster
dragonbut 5 months ago
Elwyn Hall is really a great fighter!
chinte70 6 months ago
good kick
Louiecummings01 6 months ago
Woww... 4.17 really great anticipation and timing.
rpesik 6 months ago
this guy would tear up Brennan
folioboards 7 months ago
Check out 2:13 to 2: 16! Straight back kick, set, sweep, roundhouse, reverse punch! and you can HEAR THEM ALL!
genious4real 8 months ago
Every time i see videos of the way they use to compete i'm stunned. Nowadays I'm used to the tip tappy point karate shit... this on the other hand is fucking badass and shows shotokan being applied at a highly competitive, full contact, live scenario...i fucking looove this!
JustinThoj 9 months ago
Old school kumite!
Boylefawsitt 10 months ago
he trained me
gangster4lifeful 11 months ago
2 words...SUPERB CONTROL!!
hiranom20 11 months ago
The Akuma of real life
elisboa 1 year ago
Elwyn and I trained in the same dojo as kyu-grades - but he was quite the athlete and rapidly left most us trailing behind. Fighting him was like trying to stand up against a gale filled with hail - a blinding flurry of arms and legs that wore you down until a hole appeared in your guard, when he would strike. Also one of the nicest guys you could meet - a real gentleman.
twodeltas 1 year ago
@twodeltas - You're absoluely right, it's hard to imgine, when you see him fight; just what a nice guy he really is, nothing like you might imagine. He's one of the funniest blokes, a lugh a minute, and generous as well.
200374 1 year ago
essa cara é muito fera
MrCatita123 3 months ago
I wish these days could come back Real KARATE
omegaice8 1 year ago 3
machine! such an excitin style! luvs it
mechanix5 1 year ago
i dont think that these kind of leg sweeps are allowed?
olev456 1 year ago
@olev456 Well if it's not allowed, at least 50 ref's need to be re-educated on the rules of kumite! What is your definition of a leg sweep?
200374 1 year ago
@200374 Nowadays they're not so keen on it. He is basically giving a low kick. Today's competition dandies would probably take a dive and try for a disqualification if you kicked their leg that hard.
jitteryjoe 1 year ago
@200374 I think he means the new WKF ones that aren't allowed to leave the mat. Sad in a way =/
jitteryjoe 8 months ago
yes they are!
jivaughn 1 year ago
@olev456 ... depends what federations rules you compete under ... back then in his day they were ok ... and mostly shotokan rules these days they are still allowing that type of " kick " sweep ... WKF rules wont though ... they think it causes too much injury ... modern points fighting is just getting too soft now is my opinion ...
shingitai333 1 year ago 2
@olev456 They were back then and there were no hand mits.
scottlikesvideos 5 months ago
saw him fight a few times and the speed of his hands and feet was somethink else the only person who could tame him was frank brennan.
cuprakol 1 year ago
@cuprakol
Yes, Elwyn is all that you say, and he did beat Frank at the 1988 KUGB Nationals.
200374 1 year ago
@200374 thats true elwyn was so fast i dont think ive ever seen anyone quicker
cuprakol 1 year ago
@cuprakol When did Frank Brennan "tame" him?
genious4real 8 months ago
That combination of strikes, sweeps, throws, takedowns is an absolute beauty to watch!
FoodCubes 1 year ago
love to see em & spider silva do sum stand up kumete -_-
mfuji02 1 year ago
the black tiger!
zakardo 1 year ago
competition has gone soft, not the training. Anyone who thinks it has should come the triangle in Liverpool. I can understand why competition has, people getting broken bones for nothing, but the training certainly hasn't. Elwyn fought at the most exciting time for Karate aswell as Frank, Ronnie Christopher, George Best, Jimmy Brennan, Myles Draper, Ronnie Cambell etc whent hey all fought it was exciting, not worth a carrot now, the comps that is, not the training.
scullysedge 1 year ago
@scullysedge It is the most famous karate style now days. That makes it likely that there are more poor dojos out there. More than in some. Not that there wouldn't be in every style..
pastropmal 7 months ago
I just saw my Swedish sensei Mr Leif Söderberg as the judge in this clip @ 2:31 - 2:50
Karate is just not the same without him in the Dojo...
shoomeni 2 years ago
elwyn hall's shotokan is so strong that if he never learned grappling he would likley win 50% of his mma fights.
genious4real 2 years ago 12
more than 50 bro
yankeesfan0130 2 years ago 5
@yankeesfan0130 YA GOT ME THERE BRO! I WILL NEVER ARGUE THAT POINT!
genious4real 2 years ago
I remember seeing this guy back-kicking someone out of the area back in about 1987. Forgot how great he was.
HarryBallbag 2 years ago 2
I have traind on a course with this guy and he really does know his stuff. Constantly urging you on and some how enthuses you. Nice bloke as well, friendly and has a laugh when the course is ended.
Dannyboyshotokan 2 years ago 2
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mfuji02 1 year ago
hes got what a lot of fighters today lack. courage...hes not afraid to get right in there. his ki\chi is phenom like cmon mother fucker me or you ( you know ). hes like right there in your face ready to mix it up. confident, sharp and drawing from the kata and flavor.
opticannon 2 years ago
Check out 4:16 to 4:22...!
seagoju 2 years ago
yeah, pretty cool lol, I thought the same when I saw it
FredGuitar89 2 years ago
AWESOME!
JimBpa 2 years ago 2
Espectacular !!! No lo conocia a Elwyn Hall , no desaprovecha ni una oportunidad, me gustaria hacer kumite como el: muchos ashi barai. Excelente
infoada 2 years ago
just amazing
ohhiraflavio 2 years ago
Wish he could have fought in the UFC..Ossss
omegaice8 2 years ago 2
Elwyn Hall
one of the greatest fighters of all time.
To bonus a great showman.
diamondsculpture 2 years ago 3
i have trained with elwyn on and off over the years, and he trained with my late intructor at grove park back in the day jim patterson. its a shame that karate has gone a bit soft now,` as someone has said you can not hit to hard at comps.
but as long as elwyn is around and i known that i can still get a good work out-and as for elwyn he is the NUTS!.
barrington190462 2 years ago
so true Karate is gone too soft
omegaice8 2 years ago
dam...this guy is awsome..i gona try to train just like him....lots of takedowns
Mmichel07 4 years ago
and really good fighting spirit
Fishies125 2 years ago 2
This is awsome!
Shodan234 4 years ago 2
ashi barai's king
ricohagen 4 years ago 3
the guy is amazing.
1URESAM 4 years ago
can some one send this video plz
tujevito2428 4 years ago
Elwyn Hall is a leyend 5 star
NeoShadow617 4 years ago
I do kung fu and this video shows what shotokan karate should really be like, not some krotty, but ['kharate], same with kung fu, not kung foo but gongfu ['gong fu,], meaning hard work. This video gets 5 stars from me. The good thing is that the gongfu that I practice involves sparring similar to this, but with protective gear we go full contact. We, like in this video, try to apply every move we learn.
MaBu888 4 years ago
impresionantes lo ashi barai son exactos a la hora de usarlos
feher75 4 years ago
I just trained with Elwyn this weekend at Weston-Super-Mare at an all grades course. He came down and trained with the clubs from the FBSKUI. I am only a yellow belt but my god, this man was tearing all our black belts apart even now. His power is incredible and he's a nice guy too. Good course! If you get a chance, go and see him.
Insigma83 4 years ago 8
I trained with Elwyn also, and i must say that if you ever get the oppertunity to train with him, then make sure you do. Every aspect of his fighting was amazing and he was so strong with every move that he did. I had to stand up why he did an example in front of the class, and even tough it werent full power, it still killed days after. What a guy
JohnNW17 4 years ago 2
amazing!
yxs6176 4 years ago 2
CHAMPION
ruddyneb 4 years ago 2
My sensei has actually met this guy he's amazing, we all aspire to be him at our club
sianimusegirl 4 years ago
now this is what i'm talking about dude. strong dudes looking like they're tryin to win the fight.
great footage.
seanhive 4 years ago 3
man those leg sweeps are enough to make the cobra kai sensai proud
fuddyboi 4 years ago 2
Awesome! Elwyn Hall was a great fighter!
datdrudi 4 years ago
shotokan used to be good but competitions are too soft nowadays. its too easy to get disqualified. this video shows what we need to get back to if we're to survive the death of enoida.
tabascojazz 4 years ago
I have noticed in Shotokan schools the decline in the emphasis on mastering the kihon well. Students tend to rush through the kata instead of gradually building on the more basic kata. Classes run for only one hour whereas before it used to bef or 2 hours. And I think its easier to earn a blackbelt nowadays, even in the JKA one can get it in maybe 3 years. Before training was harder and stricter. I lament this as well.
christianbrecht 4 years ago 3
işte karatenin ustaları
eyup94 4 years ago
I remember seeing him at pickets lock in the mid 80's he was awesome, i was glad i was in a different category i won mine but know he would have stuffed me with that awesome diashi!
rokkudan 4 years ago
Are you sure it was SUnderland 1986?
MrSweetPotato 4 years ago
Yes, my father was one of the cameramen and we still see Elwyn on a regular basis. He's in Finland teaching this weekend.
200374 4 years ago
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mfuji02 1 year ago
Yes, it is Sunderland 1986.
200374 4 years ago
Was this Sunderland 1986?
MrSweetPotato 4 years ago
Yes, it was Sunderland 1986
200374 4 years ago
ashi barai is his weapon. excellent use of ashi barai makes him almost unbeatable.
samsiufan 4 years ago
That was some really good fighting. Shotokan karate is some really good stuff.
rickjames789 4 years ago
ya he goes for the legs good fighter
AVbullet 4 years ago
Nice!
Great fighter!
Even if i do Kyokushin, i like him!
Great Spirit!!!
Windkick 4 years ago
i remember watching the nationals and hearing a guy behind me keep talking. i was going to tell him to be quiet. it was elwyn
spaceglow 4 years ago
I would like to be taught by that man.
longquando 4 years ago
wow thats though as hell
javraj87 4 years ago
To bad this guy is to old now for the UFC I'm preatty sure that if had been in the early competitions of the UFC he would had kick some gracy ju-jitsu butt.
internalBoxing 4 years ago
That would be cool, although he probably wouldn't unless he got the proper MMA training.
kostresa 4 years ago
I study gojo ryu, alot similar, but his hook-toundhouse combo is so much better than anyone I've ever seen. His sweeps are perfect.
abra00cadaver 4 years ago
o kra é o capeta.. kkkk
brunokino 4 years ago
my grandfather is a 6th Dan in Shotokan, has fought w/ Bill Wallace and company full contact back in his day. Great teacher...
This black guy is unreal, though. Wow
IndianaWrestler 4 years ago
holly hell.. he's so fast and he doesn't loose form. he's got my respect.
djmedan 4 years ago
THE best fighter on youtube. You rarely see anyone even do a good foot sweep, it's a great technique. This is pretty typical of top of the line WUKO fighting, tokey hill or billy blanks caliber.
bomac10000 4 years ago
This man is amazing and his sweeps are way dominant!
Akira300 4 years ago
That guy has speed and power to die for.
Sh0ot0okan 4 years ago
that black guy kicks ass
mikebubur 4 years ago
Great video and great martial artist!
josse1975 4 years ago
What can i say... WOW!
Betsnipe 4 years ago
nowadays you would be warned if you kicked that hard at somebody when sweeping
senos64 4 years ago
yeh, compared to tournaments back then the one's that we have now are a load of crap. nowadays half of them are to scared to attack first
cky3000 4 years ago
i titaly agree and they are all fixed
vampgirl109 4 years ago
Wow! I have ben wondering for a long time who he was, not knowing. Im glad I can now put a name on the poster I need to buy. I myself train JKA, but havent seen such strength and agility in a fighter since Tanaka and Yahara. I am very, very impressed. Thank you for posting this. Osu!
ipponwaza 4 years ago
Respect!
Dintellig 4 years ago
i thought george morrison of kirkby karate club was going to slap elwyn in 3.51 how is old george?
THEEMERALDTABLET 5 years ago
As a person who was at the vast majority of the fights shown i can only say this - Nanananana!!! Thankfully we have legend to provide it for us all - Elwyn Hall was astonishing and probably still is - I know how to beat him though - Transit Van - run him over when he aint looking!LOL
fujicolt 5 years ago
What's he up to these days? Last I heard he gave up karate for boxing.
BLZbozo 5 years ago
what are Elwyn Hall's stats . . ie height and weight and age at the time of these videos
MrMaul2006 5 years ago
height 5-10ins - weight 170lbs - age 22 - circa 1987
200374 5 years ago
He's a great fighter.. His sweep is really effective. BTW - the mullet was awesome! :-)
dobok1 5 years ago
amazing, unbelievable reactions
jimkel 5 years ago
I love the guy...
Abusivemelon 5 years ago
Now that is what its supposed to be like. Fast, furious, and effective.
JohnChivez 5 years ago
Savage...
Toxeh 5 years ago
Pretty much leg sweep every time, no?
Derukugi2 5 years ago
Described once as the only man who could sweep a horse...
Toxeh 5 years ago
did anyone else see the mullett? quality.
blackbeltste 5 years ago
If I drew this guy in competition, I think I'd throw in the towel! :-D
mooseven 5 years ago