Breakdowns of 1937

[SariaLink987]

What was Bette Davis getting so upset about at 1:50?  Did the guy clap too early or something?

[whyyyyou]

I love it when the women screw up their lines. Instead of making them look bad it makes them much more attractive,real,spontaneous,an­d above all human. The cute young woman who flubs her line and swears actually comes across as more interesting than the character she's playing. And kind of sexy 3:29

[tomitstube]

i'm guessing the great bette davis is yelling at herself, the "last one" probably refers to her ending the lip sync before the voice ends. i wish her rant wouldn't have been cut off.

[ragingbull888]

what's the movie at 3:25

[nicoley132]

@ragingbull888 I think it might be a movie called Marry the Girl (1937). The two guys in the scene are Hugh Herbert and Alan Mowbray.

[ragingbull888]

@nicoley132 thanks, what about the film at 4:07?

[nicoley132]

@ragingbull888 Not sure about that one, sorry. :)

[coolley100]

In the old days, they got mad as hell when they screwed up. Nowadays, actors screw up and everybody laughs. Who cares about the budget...

[katherined88]

Ahahahaha!!! Claude Rains and Alan Hale at the end totally made my day!

[aynny]

who is the actor at 4:08?

[83survivor]

Notice at 1:57....Bette Davis looked like she was about to utter the big "F" word....notice how the edit cuts that quickly. Don't think Goddamnit or those other words were used the 1930s-40s atmosphere. People did use the "F" word, too. Probably not as much, but it was still there.

[rem2267]

I think its safe to say that "Goddammit" was the preferred curse word  for actors and actresses for the 1930's and 1940's.

[cuzblueyes]

what movie was that at 4:09?

thanks

[WintersWar]

my favorite is the scene in prince and the pauper with alan hale sr and claude rains. watching rains falter is unreal.

lotta fun this stuff. ty

[theplantmonster]

the language!

[ashastar]

Not Bette singing, it was dubbed by another singer who didn't get credit.

[oywidapoodles]

I'm surgeon, goddamit! XD

[joechristopher2]

The actor is Hugh "Woo Hoo" Herbert

[nicoley132]

Hugh Herbert drives me crazy, yes he does.

[MarkMaginel]

Who was the actor from 2:11 to 2:22?

[looneywoman]

I'd love to see a Breakdown blooper reel from 1943 surface. I'd love to see if there were any "Casablanca"-bloopers!

[sspdirect02]

1:05 Boris Karloff

[nicoley132]

Yep, hard to mistake that voice. :)

[NEPatriot]

Boy these blooper reels came even before Dick Clark had his famed bloopers shows in the 1980's.

[biggerdouchebagjones]

lmao at Claude Rains at the end.

[bethanys93]

who is that at 1:43?

[nicoley132]

Not quite 100% sure, but it does look like Miss Bette Davis. A not very happy Miss Davis, haha.

[bethanys93]

Yep, I thought it was Bette too but I cant think which film it would be because she is singing and she does that rarely in films.

[nicoley132]

Kid Galahad (1937) probably -- for part of that film she has a job as a nightclub singer or something.

[thewomaninthemoon]

Yeah that's Bette,I remember that part of Kid Galahad.

[ConfusedSponge]

did she do her own singing in that?

did you notice that all the actors have different speaking voice and accents when they act and when they talk off-camera (cursing)? why's that?

and bette's younger voice and older voice are totally different! did anyone notice?

[nicoley132]

Gotta be dubbed. But Bette did do some singing here and there. In the movie Thank Your Lucky Stars she puts over "They're Either Too Young or Too Old" okay, for instance. I'm sure someone who's a much bigger Bette fan than I am might have more to say on the subject.

[bethanys93]

We probably wont ever know for definite if this is Bette's real singing voice because the studios back then never gave the 'Dubbers' any credit.

The actors may have different accents of screen because of the character they are playing. If they are playing a person from a certain area they would try their best to pick up the accent, some are much better than others. Or if they are playing a sympathetic character they might use a softer voice, it all depends on the part.

[ConfusedSponge]

i mean their standard acting accent! all actors were the same back then! not regional accent like ny or southern.. standard ones! i was thinking that because back then they were trained to use that kind of accent to appear more sophisticated! it's called mid-atlantic i guess.. but most of them in real life have general american accent! so that's why the cursed sounded different because it's real life! kate hepburn and cary grant had mid atlantic accent in real life and films. them-special breed

[ConfusedSponge]

i always wonder the southern accent in gwtw! it's really not that souhern at all! leigh just lowered her voice and she won an oscar! nowadays, no one can't get away with that because people are more judgemental!

[erroldoyle]

Leigh did much more than "lower her voice" which makes no sense at all. She and de Havilland both were tutored in making sure that they had slight Southern accents by coaches with Southern backgrounds. Vivien's real speech was very British and had to be curbed.

[ConfusedSponge]

i know. we couldn't blame them a hundred percent. it's not totally their fault. but i mean the studio, the whole production team and the director or even david o. selznick purposely made and wanted the accent to sound that way. it's not really southern accent. people back then preffered sophistication rather then the truth. you know because southern accent doesn't sound that classy and sophisticated.

[nauort23]

You are indeed confused and a sponge. Vivien Leigh is about the only performer in GWTW who does a decent Southern accent.; she sounds like my mother who grew up in Virginia. Off and on for 37 years, I've lived in the "mid-atlantic," which supposedly produced the accents of C. Grant and Grace Kelly--who both sounded like they learned to speak from failed actresses who ran drama schools, and certainly NOT like anyone from DC to Philadelphia that I've EVER heard. K. Hepburn was from New England.

[ConfusedSponge]

Why so grumpy? You're her grandkid or something? Everybody has different opinion. You should respect it. If you search all over the internet, there are quite number of people say her accent sucked! Throughout the South, the accents varies from state to state. Georgian Southern accent supposed to be very thick. Her accent is fake but still better than others in GWTW. Who speak Mid-Atlantic anymore? Only expatriates and posers. That's who!

[nauort23]

Being a southerner, I think I know a little more about southern accents than you (who clearly arent' even a native speaker) and most of the internet crowd. No one need or "should respect" your misinformed, biased and rude opinion that "southern accent doesn't sound that sophisticated and classy." I imagine you think South Boston sounds like Tumbridge Wells? Scarlett O'Hara is a rich girl born in the middle of the 19th Century. Do you really think she's supposed to talk like Huckleberry Hound?

[ConfusedSponge]

Huckleberry Hound is a male redneck! I never said she should talk like that! You don't know me. I'm a native speaker. Used to live in Midtown Manhattan but I've been outside the States for a very long time. If you don't respect my opinion, than I don't respect yours. So, whatever!

P/S:- I know the sequel to GWTW (Scarlett the miniseries) sucks and the acting sucks but her accent is more realistic and way way better

[classicstars98]

People who had mid atlantic accents lived in the US for a while and their native accent blended in. Cary Grant was from England and his british accent blended with the american accent of the time.

[aryay00]

@nauort23 I thought that the southern accent evolved from the "foreign" accents brought by other English speakers such as the British, Welsh and Irish. Doesn't a southern accent today sound more like British than anything from the eastern or midwestern U.S.?

[nauort23]

@aryay00 Yes, it definitely evolved from those dialects/accents--and others, no doubt. I've known many people who learned/speak British English (even as a second language) who find the Southern accent easier to understand because the vowels and the "r" are closer to the standard Brit pronunciation.

[classicsfan10]

@nauort23 Cary Grant was British, not American.

[bethanys93]

Finally, yep Bette's voice changed a whole lot when she got older. I know voices mature etc. but I guess the dramatic change was down to the smoking.

Hope thats some help :)

[ConfusedSponge]

thanks. it helps a little.. did she ever quit smoking at some point in her life?

her voice in the 30s was very cute and soft.. but in the 50s and 60s - very rough and husky.. like totally a different person!

[ConfusedSponge]

i just wanted to know why was she angry? why did she say only the last one goddamn it and to whom?

i can't see anything wrong with that scene at all

can someone tell me!

[daydreamerjane]

Could be whoever applauded came in too early for that scene.