Seriously guys, does it really matter what religion we are or not? If you want to believe that God doesn't exist, we don't have a right to argue over that, everyone has their own life, let them live it.
I think that what is written in all of the religions main manuscripts are guide lines for humans , logical morals of life , like don't kill,don't steal... it was written by humans so sure its not perfect but people can still get some good moralities out of them!
For atheism believes that there are no God that have set these events in motion, but that these events has happened naturally, that the human kind has been lucky in it's existence. Though that may....
You can say religion is a way to explain happened events, that a superior being, a "God", has caused these events to happen. There are many religions like this and you may even call atheism religion.
And that there is another "God" that created earth. If we look at it from another perspective and say that these "Gods" really are events caused naturally, like an earthquake. Then you'll have atheism
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
Truth preceeds knowledge morons... You believe in the absurd idea of god because YOU WERE SUGGESTED TO by another human being. Science is independent of archaic delusions and human fallibility and would exist even if we weren't there to understand it whereas your god exist only in your mind as a vulgar information passed on by other weak and malleable minds corrupting your judgment and crippling your rationality all that because you are unable to transcend your fear of death.
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
@1tabligh Oh man, I've never seen an argument so convincing before! Amazing! You really should write to Neil deGrasse Tyson and point out this obvious logical oversight; the world needs your wisdom and amazing capacity to see that which everyone else misses.
@andymcgaha Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh Undoubtedly you have lecture halls booked at major universities in order to debate all of the premiere scientific minds! I look forward to seeing the results of your very coherent and well-considered words.
Their delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Their delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
@1tabligh You know what else is unproven? Any deity whatsoever.
Scientific theory is the only one with a fairly credible current extent of explanation. We don't know anywhere near everything, but we can make a damn good case to explain what is around us. I find something with any degree of sense and based on solid theory more credible than "the magic man in the sky did it", which is just as unproven as any science.
I'm sure the universities of the world would love to hear your "theory".
@Auesis The Need of the World for One Without Need!
The principle of causality is a general and universal law and foundation for all efforts of man, both in the acquisition of knowledge and in his customary activities. The strivings of scholars to uncover the cause of every phenomenon, whether natural or social, arise from the belief that *no* phenomenon originates in and of itself *without* the intervention of causes and agents.
@Auesis The link between cause and effect and the principle that *no* phenomenon will set foot on the plain of being *without* a cause, are among the strongest deductions ever made by man and count as indispensable conditions for intellectual activity. They represent something natural and primordial, assimilated automatically by our minds.
@Auesis Imprisoned as we are within the four walls of matter, we *never* encounter anything accidental in life, and, indeed, no one ever encountered, in the history of the world, an accident *not* arising from a cause. Were this not the case, we might have an excuse for regarding the universe as accidental in origin.
Can the order we perceive be the reflection of mere accident and happenstance?
@1tabligh Okay, well, most of the argument I see from you is intelligent design. It can't have come around on accident, because it's so perfect, right?
Well, the design of the Earth is FUCKING RETARDED.
Millions of species are now extinct without human intervention. Many species today have horrible faults that will result in their demise eg. some species of honey bee dying when stinging in defence of the hive.
There is hardly any "intelligent" or "accidentally great" design on this Earth.
@Auesis What kind of accident might it be that from the dawn of being to the present has guided the infinite interactions of all things, in so wondrous, precise and orderly a fashion?
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
@1tabligh I give up on you. It's clear that you can only copy and paste gibberish from your superior cult leaders, and not actually give a clear, intellectual response to me. You haven't even properly answered anything I've proposed, and instead bombard with rhetorical and unclear questions. In fact, you just ignored the entire unintelligent design argument and pretended I never said it. I need no more proof to see that you're just spamming. Go ahead and spam more, but I'm done here.
@Auesis Any supposable phenomenon in the universe was submerged in the darkness of non-being before it assumed the form of being. It *cannot* pierce the darkness of non-being and step forth on the plain of being as an existent thing *until* the powerful hand of causality sets to work.
@1tabligh You speak rubbish. You say science is unable to explain everything, yet Christianity is unable to do the exact same. You say that atheists looks at the world with both eyes closed, yet still we're able to see far more than the disillusioned Christians who claim that an old man, that has lived eternally, in a place where there's nothing, creates everything and everyone. Christianity fails to explain its very foundation and can't proof most major events that occur in the bible.
@ILIKEBIGTOYS Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh There is no such conclusions, but lots of theories, for you see, science actually needs to show proof of their theories to make them a fact. As of this moment science is being made in a facility in Europe, where small particles are thrown together and all sorts of things of which I'm not clever enough to fully understand, like antimatter, which has been found and held stable for 5 minutes, there theories of galaxies of antimatter, but science haven't come far enough to prove.
What is called science by the science-worshippers of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
@ILIKEBIGTOYS how he himself could exist in nothing?
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His Existence is not coming into Being from non-existence.
If in the course of developing the argument of the orderliness of the universe we attempt to prove the existence of a maker similar to the human maker, the divine maker will, in reality, also be a created being on the level of man; proving the existence of such a maker is an entirely different matter from proving the existence of the Maker and Creator of all being.
@ILIKEBIGTOYS The Creator of the universe cannot be preceded by non-existence; otherwise, He would need another god to create Him; and that god, if he is preceded by non-existence, would need another god and so on. Thus, we would have an endless chain of gods without reaching a **causeless cause** to be the source of the existence of the universe.
@1tabligh You are very cryptic and is hard to understand, I cannot clearly state what religion you belong to, though you praise Allah, so that might make you a Muslim in my thought.
"Do they imagine that they've been created without any cause, or do they suppose that they are their own creators?" The Quran (52:36) "Have they created the heavens and the earth ? They have no certain belief in what they say" (52:37) Do they have a Lord other than God? No, it is not so; God is exalted above the partners they ascribe to him." (52:43) "Glorified be He in Whose hand is all sovereignty and Who has power over all things." (67:1)
@1tabligh I do not know that much about Islam, I'm grown up in a Christian nation and is even given the name "Christian". Your saying that there is a God or "unknown that created universe.
@LordClarkson Atheist. I believe everything have a rational explanation, like the human evolution and that the reason Muslims can't eat pigs is because of a period where pigs carried some kind of disease.
I want to know why people believe in their religion, I want to know their rational explanation of their religion and the reason why they see it as all that is truth. It's hard to argue against what they find is the truth, so all I can say in the end is that they should respect non-believers.
@ILIKEBIGTOYS For fucks sake, I was being sarcastic! Could you not tell? Wait, you are Australian, right? (Aussie LOVE big dicks/cocks! jokes!) For fucks sake, of COURSE I know you are joking, you dumb fuck!)
@andymcgaha Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
Quite funny to see that much lack of understanding, just because he still hangs on to his childish belief that God has to be like Santa. Probably also expects his mum to still do his wahshing and ironing and to wipe his bottom. Would be frightening if God would be like that, but with growing up you have to learn to take responsibility for your actions. That is probably why some wish God would fix it all for us.
Look folks, believe what you will but know that you probably won't change anybody's mind. Not when it comes to religion. Especially not in a youtube comments section. I do find this bit really funny though.
Now, this is the new fad: making fun of religion and religious people. The Izzards and the Jeffreys, the Mahers of the world, you all think are so smart because of ridiculizing other human beings? What's so smart about it? Shameful way of making a living.
@raponte1955 That's his job, he's a comedian. He is expected to make fun out of a variety of topics, and he does. Don't think for one second that all he does is ridicule religion. Why should the topic of religion be avoided? I bet you any money that you have laughed at a comedian taking the piss out of another type of people, maybe fat people, maybe gays, i don't know. But don't get all fucktarded about it when they start talking about religion.
Remember folks, if you sincerely want to create a better world, then try to understand the religious mind and counter accordingly. Understand that one isn't religious, shallow in their thought, by their own volition. Their mind is, in some particular manner, differently fashioned to allow such naive ideas to overtake their mind. The existence of religious minds should, therefore, evoke in one a great sadness, not some ego-boosting self-aggrandizement.
@HalloFusilli while i salute your plead for furthering understanding i find it a bit funny that in the sentence before "Don't demean" you describe the religious person as being the single most pithifull excistence in the world,but i am sure that was not intended as such in the same way its also not "egotistical" to describe them as narrowminded,shallow or naive.
@Battusai1984 In any case, you are going to express to them the fact that you think their highly regarded "truths" are non-truths. In any case, they are going to find offense. In any case you are going to demean them. The difference though, is in the manner through which you make this known to them. Better an understanding sadness (which actually conforms to their ideals) than an ridiculing arrogance.
@Battusai1984 And to the 2nd part, you clearly misinterpreted. I said that the religious mind should bring sadness and that someone shouldn't use their atheism to stroke their petty little egos.
@HalloFusilli i think think my point was lost on you,i made my post to try and show you that your message was worse then what your complaining about.
More truth hide's in humor then does in silence,a stand up comedian weaves a tale perhaps more grandiose but one that is still based it truth,they remind us that your farts do stink and challenge us to make up our own minds,
@Battusai1984 When it comes to holding such concrete ideas (i.e. religious beliefs) concerning such profound things how could you not be saddened by the mind that completely misses the beautiful profundity and instead naively and with such certainty holds those concrete ideas.
To put it very simply for you, does a racist mind not bring you sadness? I mean, its not as if someone is racist of his or her own will. Though in either case, its a sad state of affairs.
@HalloFusilli Or to put it simply i just preffer to not see religious people as sad i just dont agree with them,get over yourself and join the human race buddy,we can do without the pity
@Cylixx3 I think he said four thousand five hundred million. there are two systems of numbers, the american/ science and then the british/ rest of the world... i think. anyway, in american/science system 1 thousand million = a billion. In british/ rest of the world, 1 million millions is a billion... So when he said four thousand five hundred million, that is pretty much saying 4.5 billion.
Deism. Look it up. I was raised theist, became atheist, and realized I was Deist the whole time. I think most atheists just look at religion and think that's what God is, but religion is to understand God, God isn't religion. Religion is based on truth, covered in horseshit. Jesus had it completely right, but Christianity is just silly. Deism is the most enlightened viewpoint on the whole God thing, really.
@stfwho Thank you for vindicating my argument that people hastily turn to atheism without knowing all the options. There are a lot of people who don't even know what Deism is - they see through the BS of religion and automatically consider themselves atheists. When I came to Deist conclusions by myself after doing a lot of reading, I personally had to Google "belief in god without religion" to find out what my ideology was called. I have always known about atheism on the other hand.
@stfwho I am an Atheist, and I don't believe in any gods, or the stories surrounding them. I don't think religion is based on any truth. I do, however, think what you said is just about perfect. Religion is a reason to kill our neighbors. Believing there is some sort of higher power, and nothing else, is just fine.
@sauggata I don't know about that because religion actively tries to blend our perceptions of subjectivity and objectivity. Even though there is a vast multiplicity in theistic dogma around the world, it is all believed to be fact. You may believe that Yahweh created the Earth in 7 days while an ancient Egyptian may believe Amun created the Earth differently. The point of science is to find commonality that nobody can dispute...so you should believe in theories born out of that thesis.
@xTSxALLDAY There you go ! Telling others what to believe in...ha. Not that I am a student of theology or I dispute the findings of science. FYI i don't want to know how the earth was created, for I don't think that info would help me in any way. All I know is that evolutionary science is very unscientific. Evolutionary scientists are Darwinists who refute any other theory and have been trying to prove the theory for years and can't find the missing link...well guess what...there isn't any.
@sauggata Yes! Thank God that science does not "preach" theories as you say. You ARE right that that would be insane - to preach a theory as anything at all, rather than letting the theory live or die on its on merits. Just out of curiosity....the theory of gravity: a sham?
See this is what pisses me off...the title of the video is "religion, science, and atheism."
There are a lot of people who don't even know what Deism is - they see through the BS of religion and automatically consider themselves atheists. When I came to Deist conclusions by myself after doing a lot of reading, I personally had to Google "belief in god without religion" to find out what my ideology was called. I have always known about atheism.
I love Eddy. The English seem to the only ones that make fun of religion without fear. When I was a kid I was in love with Dave Allen, and Monty Python. Do that here and this is what you get..no we are so PC all we do is talk about race..hmmm And we are so evolved haha. Who cares what you believe in, it's comedy, live and let live...Go to Dave Allen on Religion they are fighting over there too, and Dave passed away some time ago. (rolls eyes)
Can't love him that much if you can't spell his name. Pretty sure it's "Eddie". And if you think (as much as I am averse to beginning a sentence with "and") that the English are the only ones that make fun of religion without fear you've obviously never seen or heard of Bill Hicks, or several other American comics that I won't bother to mention here.
Hum. Dave Allen was Irish. Jewish comedians are pretty funny too don't you think? Still, I know what you mean, there don't seem to be too many Baptist or Mormon comedians out there. Give em time!
I am an atheist, but guys; respect people's beliefs: If they want to be Christian, it's their choice. Don't critizise anyone for their own decisions. Same goes to Christians, if we want to be atheists, don't condemm us for it
@JCS20000 Respect? Maybe, but It's essential to speak up because religion poisons everything...it seeks to subvert science and progress (creationism)...it asks for special privleges (taxes)...it forces its nonsense on kids (indoctrination, hell concept, compulsory prayer)...it subjugates minorities (atheists, gays)...
There are many many reasons why non believers should speak out. If the religious could keep their nonsense to themselves there would be no debate.
Religion doesn't poison anything. It's a tool and nothing more. Some people use it to justify horrible things they do, others use it to justify great things they do and even more people use it just to get through life with some semblance of contentment. Religion, at it's core and how most people use it, is just a form of hope for something better. There's nothing bad in that. Attack the people who use it to justify their hateful and ignorant views, not the concept itself.
@AtheistPowerlifter I agree with much of what you said. However, it deserves tax exemption because it is not a part of our government system and through this exemption it is kept out of government issues because it does not pay its part to be permitted a vote. If not just for its destructive nature, religion is to be questioned because one does not agree with it. "Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake" - C. Hitchens
@AtheistPowerlifter Oh there would be. Just look at Dawkins. It doesn't matter if the subject fits or not. Every time is good time for remarks on religion. It's just our cheap monkey nature. I'm sure you're as certain of yours as religious people are of theirs.
If scientists could just shut the fuck up and do their research, and creationists would keep their fantasy world to themselves, world would be a much happier place.
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
@1tabligh I don't know. I think the scientific method has given cosmologists a lot of information about the universe. I trust what they have to say when they overwhelmingly agree.
I could easily change 'scientists' in your comment to >> 'theists' and 'the scheme of the universe' to >> 'god'. But they would even know less than you claim scientists know.
I would also have to change 'some' in the 1st sentence to >> 'all'.
PS...you don't have to agree with cosmologists to be atheist.
Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
@Atheist...Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
@1tabligh I don't know what was "before" the universe, or how this all began. You don't either. The answer is "I don't know".
Science simply states what it knows and doesn't know. Too bad theists can't say the same.
All they have left is this god of the gaps argument "well you don't know what started the universe, therefore>>>"goddidit"". This is intellectual laziness.
I don't think there's anywhere else to go with this topic.
@AtheistPowerlifter What is called science by the *science-worshippers of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
@AtheistPowerlifter It's in your thoughts, mind and views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
@AtheistPowerlifter If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.
@AtheistPowerlifter Nope. Not nonsense, first off, very logical, some science actually supports it, if you think about it, but not gonna argue about that. I don't insult your belief, you don't insult mine. Also, these things are ridiculous arguements, those are things that happen when people abuse other people's faith. And there is no "forcing nonsense on kids" or "subjugating minors," those are the individual people. Sorry, pal, but your profiling makes you very predgidous.
@Matthmatt1213 Thanks for your rant but I was simply responding to a post which basically stated "why don't atheists just shut up'. It's basically what you are saying. I stand by what I said. I'm not fucking retarded I realize that most theists have moved past the crude values of their holy books. But until caustic religion stops having such a negative influence on the public sphere it's important to speak up.
@Matthmatt1213 I was forced to recite the Lords prayer in public school...our public school system pushed christianity at every turn. Things are changing as society is becoming more secular. I don't care if you're offended, you don't have the right not to be. You said that "I am doing the same thing I accuse the religious of." How so? I am simply asking for the right not to listen to religious bullshit...like swearing in on the bible or 10 commandment plaques in the courthouse.
@AtheistPowerlifter And the "subjugating minorities" thing, I know it was in the bible, but most religious people are fine with the minorities. These people realize that times have changed, and even if they do not agree with something (I personally am fine with your religion or homosexuals or other minorities), it's not worth attacking people over. Many atheists are the same way.Also I'd like to point out that you are doing exactly the thing you accuse ALL religious people of
@AtheistPowerlifter If you want something to fight against, go against the freaking health care bill in U.S.A., where I live. Completely unconstitutional. Does Congress care? No. Should we? Yes. The number of people who do these things are very few. And for the forcing of belief on kids, even those people usually let them choose once they're responsible enough. And might I add that vegetarians force their kids not to eat meat until they're responsible enough. Don't hate.
@Matthmatt1213 I could give a fuck about vegetarians or US health care. Do you care about aboriginal treaty rights in the maritimes where I live? Or long wait times we exp in our health care system? There are many "causes".
I don't care what people believe, just keep it private - even jesus said to do that. And giving an anonymous opinion on YT is hardly "fighting" something. The next time I get told I'm not a real Canadian because I don't love jesus I'll think of your rant.
@Matthmatt1213 Anyways man I appreciate your opinion but no one has the right to not be criticized, or questioned...even religion. Religion has been ingenious with it's marketing campaign that it is very taboo to speak against it.
And yes they still indoctrinate kids (watch the terrifying "jesus camp") and they still subjugate others (women? Afghanistan...homosexuals? Everywhere). I know not ALL but it still happens - and it is mostly due to belief in old books/magic sky gods.
@JCS20000 Lawl, for an atheist you sure know quite little about Christianity. They have Bible verses that basically condemn atheism. Other than that their main mantra is to proclaim the gospel to the non-believers. It would be an oxymoron for a Christian to not interfere. After all Christians think you will burn in a lake FOREVER and he has the good message to save you from your sin. If a Christian does not interfere he is a horrible person as he is fine with you burning forever. ;)
@scrap222666 I'm befuddled as to why you put a winky face next to your statement about athiests burning in a lake forever. Does the thought of eternal torture amuse you?
But, yes, you do have a point. Many Christians believe that it's their duty to convert non-Christians because the fear of letting a fellow human being endure eternal punishment is so potent for them. It's an aspect of Christianity that Christians themselves are very divided about. It's very complicated. :(
@CherryFairy02 Eternal torture does not amuse me. Eternal torture based on stupid claims however does. Think of it as this. 2 dominant religions, Islam and Christianity. One teaches you need works, the other you don't. One says God is a trinity, the other says god is one. Both debate opposite to eachother "You can't go to heaven with works only!" other "You can't go to heaven with just belief!" . Us atheists see how contradictory this all is.
JESUS CHRIST, HIS CATHOLIC-UNIVERSAL-APOSTOLIC CHURCH, SACRAMENTS, THE BIBLE, MIRACLES, HEALINGS, ST. MARY APPARITIONS, MESSAGES FROM HEAVEN, SIGNS IN 2011 ARE NOT A MYTHOLOGY BUT THE REALITY !!!
in response to hc4jd. hmm...hundreds of years eh? so WWII's Holocaust, 9/11, the constant war in Palestine, Jamestown, The Shiite - Sunni clashes, bombs, and murders still going on in Iraq, I could research more, but you get the point. None of these count then?
You know what guys, just what ever gets you through the day. Believe what you want, I don't care, you could be right, I could right, we both could be wrong. Just don't try to kill me for what you believe.
@hc4jd That's such BS. No one has tried to kill anyone for what they believe in regards to religion on a widespread scale in hundreds of years to even make that a valid comment. And what's more, who's going to hunt you down on youtube and kill you for what you believe? Why would anyone do that? It's an inflammatory and prejudice comment and nothing more.
@Farsight20 "No one has tried to kill anyone for what they believe in regards to religion on a widespread scale in hundreds of years to even make that a valid comment."
"If there was a god, dont you think he would have flick hilters head off" Becuase ya know god is a super hero that pops into reality that attacks people that do wrong things. haha atheism.
@Jonbombs Thanks for the warning
Chrissyy96 5 hours ago
Don't bother scrolling down
Jonbombs 1 day ago 2
Eddie is great!
pranksterguy1 4 days ago
Seriously guys, does it really matter what religion we are or not? If you want to believe that God doesn't exist, we don't have a right to argue over that, everyone has their own life, let them live it.
MajesticRedify 5 days ago
He did this bit at Largo on Sunday and I was rolling!!
deadbydawnnn 1 week ago
@deadbydawnnn lol, nice combo breaking. :).
Mijnkraft 4 days ago
I think that what is written in all of the religions main manuscripts are guide lines for humans , logical morals of life , like don't kill,don't steal... it was written by humans so sure its not perfect but people can still get some good moralities out of them!
juicedchevy 1 week ago
... be a scary thought, that there is no reason in life, that were just that lucky to be able to experience the wonders of life.
This shouldn't be disrespected in any way.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS i don't need a reason to live. i enjoy learning about the world and seeing what it has to offer.
Pager1991 6 days ago
For atheism believes that there are no God that have set these events in motion, but that these events has happened naturally, that the human kind has been lucky in it's existence. Though that may....
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
You can say religion is a way to explain happened events, that a superior being, a "God", has caused these events to happen. There are many religions like this and you may even call atheism religion.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
And that there is another "God" that created earth. If we look at it from another perspective and say that these "Gods" really are events caused naturally, like an earthquake. Then you'll have atheism
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
The atheist Delusion!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 1 week ago
24 people smell of sandwiches...
TheMightyPnut 1 week ago
Truth preceeds knowledge morons... You believe in the absurd idea of god because YOU WERE SUGGESTED TO by another human being. Science is independent of archaic delusions and human fallibility and would exist even if we weren't there to understand it whereas your god exist only in your mind as a vulgar information passed on by other weak and malleable minds corrupting your judgment and crippling your rationality all that because you are unable to transcend your fear of death.
Zarenthar 2 weeks ago 2
The atheist Delusion!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh Oh man, I've never seen an argument so convincing before! Amazing! You really should write to Neil deGrasse Tyson and point out this obvious logical oversight; the world needs your wisdom and amazing capacity to see that which everyone else misses.
andymcgaha 2 weeks ago 12
@andymcgaha Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh Undoubtedly you have lecture halls booked at major universities in order to debate all of the premiere scientific minds! I look forward to seeing the results of your very coherent and well-considered words.
andymcgaha 2 weeks ago
@andymcgaha God bless you.
The atheist Delusion!
Their delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Their delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh You know what else is unproven? Any deity whatsoever.
Scientific theory is the only one with a fairly credible current extent of explanation. We don't know anywhere near everything, but we can make a damn good case to explain what is around us. I find something with any degree of sense and based on solid theory more credible than "the magic man in the sky did it", which is just as unproven as any science.
I'm sure the universities of the world would love to hear your "theory".
Auesis 2 weeks ago
@Auesis The Need of the World for One Without Need!
The principle of causality is a general and universal law and foundation for all efforts of man, both in the acquisition of knowledge and in his customary activities. The strivings of scholars to uncover the cause of every phenomenon, whether natural or social, arise from the belief that *no* phenomenon originates in and of itself *without* the intervention of causes and agents.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh Well done for regurgitating the gibberish you've been brainwashed to tell, but you missed the point I made.
Auesis 2 weeks ago
@Auesis The link between cause and effect and the principle that *no* phenomenon will set foot on the plain of being *without* a cause, are among the strongest deductions ever made by man and count as indispensable conditions for intellectual activity. They represent something natural and primordial, assimilated automatically by our minds.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh If you want to copy and paste, that's fine, just don't do it to me, because I don't want to hear your drivel.
Auesis 2 weeks ago
@Auesis Imprisoned as we are within the four walls of matter, we *never* encounter anything accidental in life, and, indeed, no one ever encountered, in the history of the world, an accident *not* arising from a cause. Were this not the case, we might have an excuse for regarding the universe as accidental in origin.
Can the order we perceive be the reflection of mere accident and happenstance?
Dodging ALL the questions and quibbling in vain!
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh Okay, well, most of the argument I see from you is intelligent design. It can't have come around on accident, because it's so perfect, right?
Well, the design of the Earth is FUCKING RETARDED.
Millions of species are now extinct without human intervention. Many species today have horrible faults that will result in their demise eg. some species of honey bee dying when stinging in defence of the hive.
There is hardly any "intelligent" or "accidentally great" design on this Earth.
Auesis 2 weeks ago
@Auesis What kind of accident might it be that from the dawn of being to the present has guided the infinite interactions of all things, in so wondrous, precise and orderly a fashion?
Materialism looks at the world with one eye *closed* and, as a result, is unable to answer numerous questions!
Deluded atheist looks at the world with BOTH eyes *closed* and, as a result, are unable to answer ALL the questions!
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh I give up on you. It's clear that you can only copy and paste gibberish from your superior cult leaders, and not actually give a clear, intellectual response to me. You haven't even properly answered anything I've proposed, and instead bombard with rhetorical and unclear questions. In fact, you just ignored the entire unintelligent design argument and pretended I never said it. I need no more proof to see that you're just spamming. Go ahead and spam more, but I'm done here.
Auesis 2 weeks ago
@Auesis Any supposable phenomenon in the universe was submerged in the darkness of non-being before it assumed the form of being. It *cannot* pierce the darkness of non-being and step forth on the plain of being as an existent thing *until* the powerful hand of causality sets to work.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
@1tabligh You speak rubbish. You say science is unable to explain everything, yet Christianity is unable to do the exact same. You say that atheists looks at the world with both eyes closed, yet still we're able to see far more than the disillusioned Christians who claim that an old man, that has lived eternally, in a place where there's nothing, creates everything and everyone. Christianity fails to explain its very foundation and can't proof most major events that occur in the bible.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago in playlist YouTube Mix for Eddie Izzard 8
@ILIKEBIGTOYS Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh There is no such conclusions, but lots of theories, for you see, science actually needs to show proof of their theories to make them a fact. As of this moment science is being made in a facility in Europe, where small particles are thrown together and all sorts of things of which I'm not clever enough to fully understand, like antimatter, which has been found and held stable for 5 minutes, there theories of galaxies of antimatter, but science haven't come far enough to prove.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
@1tabligh Rome wasn't build on one day and certainly, neither was the universe, nor our understanding of it.
But I still don't seem to get an explanation on how God was supposed to create everything from nothing and how he himself could exist in nothing?
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
What is called science by the science-worshippers of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS how he himself could exist in nothing?
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His Existence is not coming into Being from non-existence.
If in the course of developing the argument of the orderliness of the universe we attempt to prove the existence of a maker similar to the human maker, the divine maker will, in reality, also be a created being on the level of man; proving the existence of such a maker is an entirely different matter from proving the existence of the Maker and Creator of all being.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS The Creator of the universe cannot be preceded by non-existence; otherwise, He would need another god to create Him; and that god, if he is preceded by non-existence, would need another god and so on. Thus, we would have an endless chain of gods without reaching a **causeless cause** to be the source of the existence of the universe.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS Then we have to deny the existence of the universe. We would also have to deny ourselves because we are a part of the universe.
But you say to yourself: I cannot do that because I am here. Then you have to say: God is there.
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh You are very cryptic and is hard to understand, I cannot clearly state what religion you belong to, though you praise Allah, so that might make you a Muslim in my thought.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS I am a Shiite Muslim!
"Do they imagine that they've been created without any cause, or do they suppose that they are their own creators?" The Quran (52:36) "Have they created the heavens and the earth ? They have no certain belief in what they say" (52:37) Do they have a Lord other than God? No, it is not so; God is exalted above the partners they ascribe to him." (52:43) "Glorified be He in Whose hand is all sovereignty and Who has power over all things." (67:1)
1tabligh 1 week ago
@1tabligh I do not know that much about Islam, I'm grown up in a Christian nation and is even given the name "Christian". Your saying that there is a God or "unknown that created universe.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 1 week ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS hes a comedian if u didnt know its his job to take the piss off stuff so shut up
kp587 6 days ago
@kp587 I do know that, I just read some of this guys comments and started discussing opinions with him. Stop being so rude.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 6 days ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS What side of the fence are you on? It's hard to tell...
LordClarkson 5 days ago
@LordClarkson Atheist. I believe everything have a rational explanation, like the human evolution and that the reason Muslims can't eat pigs is because of a period where pigs carried some kind of disease.
I want to know why people believe in their religion, I want to know their rational explanation of their religion and the reason why they see it as all that is truth. It's hard to argue against what they find is the truth, so all I can say in the end is that they should respect non-believers.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 5 days ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS Good. I am GLAD you are an atheist. Enough said.
LordClarkson 5 days ago
@LordClarkson Not enough said there actually, Since it isn't clear in which way you're glad about it.
ILIKEBIGTOYS 5 days ago
@ILIKEBIGTOYS For fucks sake, I was being sarcastic! Could you not tell? Wait, you are Australian, right? (Aussie LOVE big dicks/cocks! jokes!) For fucks sake, of COURSE I know you are joking, you dumb fuck!)
LordClarkson 5 days ago
I shouldn't comment while drunk...
LordClarkson 4 days ago
@andymcgaha Views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
What is called science by the *science-worshippers* of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH, the Lord of the Universe.
1tabligh 2 weeks ago
Why is it that all the best comedians are smart comics, and all of them are atheist? (Carlin, Gervais, Louis CK, Hicks, more)
herpderpmonkey 3 weeks ago
@herpderpmonkey most smart people period believe there is no god.
brownie7317 2 weeks ago
@whitewashedlife I'm a Christian too, and I respect his opinion, and he's hilarious.. You're right. That's crazy.
jinzo457 3 weeks ago
Guess what?! I follow Jesus and I can understand that Eddie has an opinion. That's crazy.
whitewashedlife 3 weeks ago
@whitewashedlife not reallllly opinion if you're talking about that silly book that's been proven wrong over and over.
herpderpmonkey 3 weeks ago
@whitewashedlife follow him where??
brownie7317 2 weeks ago
@brownie7317
"Down to the red oak tree." I'm sorry. Ben-addicts will understand. I troll ALL THE FANDOMS MWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
whitewashedlife 2 weeks ago
Quite funny to see that much lack of understanding, just because he still hangs on to his childish belief that God has to be like Santa. Probably also expects his mum to still do his wahshing and ironing and to wipe his bottom. Would be frightening if God would be like that, but with growing up you have to learn to take responsibility for your actions. That is probably why some wish God would fix it all for us.
fourteatwo 3 weeks ago
@fourteatwo He's saying that to have a comedic effect. To quote "I'm just fucking around with ideas..."
HappyIsFleeting 3 weeks ago
There's something very wrong watching him dressed as normal. Just as funny though.
TrAkMan83 4 weeks ago
Look folks, believe what you will but know that you probably won't change anybody's mind. Not when it comes to religion. Especially not in a youtube comments section. I do find this bit really funny though.
mhz23 1 month ago
theres something weird and wrong about a masculine eddie izzard! lol.. but he's still just as hilarious... i am in stitches... epic stuff eddie!
gablison 1 month ago
This is one of the funniest men alive. Eddie doesn't even have to be joking. When he rambles, he can get people to crack up.
skywize 1 month ago
Did jesus not mention the universe?
oh yea humans couldnt write about it coz they didn't know about it. Surely the creators son could have mentioned it? eh
judgejudyslover 1 month ago
Maybe that's why the dinosaurs ruled for so long; they had no religion.
futbolfever90 1 month ago 43
@futbolfever90 Wheres your evidence that they had no religion . . .
TheSouthernPsycho 1 month ago
@futbolfever90 but then they died out...
nutmed 3 weeks ago
Now, this is the new fad: making fun of religion and religious people. The Izzards and the Jeffreys, the Mahers of the world, you all think are so smart because of ridiculizing other human beings? What's so smart about it? Shameful way of making a living.
raponte1955 1 month ago
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AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
@raponte1955 Look at what the religions are doing to the world, and have been. Cracking a few jokes is hardly the worst thing in the world.
skywize 1 month ago
@raponte1955 That's his job, he's a comedian. He is expected to make fun out of a variety of topics, and he does. Don't think for one second that all he does is ridicule religion. Why should the topic of religion be avoided? I bet you any money that you have laughed at a comedian taking the piss out of another type of people, maybe fat people, maybe gays, i don't know. But don't get all fucktarded about it when they start talking about religion.
bicycleghost41 1 month ago
Remember folks, if you sincerely want to create a better world, then try to understand the religious mind and counter accordingly. Understand that one isn't religious, shallow in their thought, by their own volition. Their mind is, in some particular manner, differently fashioned to allow such naive ideas to overtake their mind. The existence of religious minds should, therefore, evoke in one a great sadness, not some ego-boosting self-aggrandizement.
Don't ridicule/demean. Understand.
HalloFusilli 1 month ago
@HalloFusilli while i salute your plead for furthering understanding i find it a bit funny that in the sentence before "Don't demean" you describe the religious person as being the single most pithifull excistence in the world,but i am sure that was not intended as such in the same way its also not "egotistical" to describe them as narrowminded,shallow or naive.
Battusai1984 1 month ago
@Battusai1984 In any case, you are going to express to them the fact that you think their highly regarded "truths" are non-truths. In any case, they are going to find offense. In any case you are going to demean them. The difference though, is in the manner through which you make this known to them. Better an understanding sadness (which actually conforms to their ideals) than an ridiculing arrogance.
HalloFusilli 1 month ago
@Battusai1984 And to the 2nd part, you clearly misinterpreted. I said that the religious mind should bring sadness and that someone shouldn't use their atheism to stroke their petty little egos.
HalloFusilli 1 month ago
@HalloFusilli i think think my point was lost on you,i made my post to try and show you that your message was worse then what your complaining about.
More truth hide's in humor then does in silence,a stand up comedian weaves a tale perhaps more grandiose but one that is still based it truth,they remind us that your farts do stink and challenge us to make up our own minds,
Battusai1984 1 month ago
@Battusai1984 When it comes to holding such concrete ideas (i.e. religious beliefs) concerning such profound things how could you not be saddened by the mind that completely misses the beautiful profundity and instead naively and with such certainty holds those concrete ideas.
To put it very simply for you, does a racist mind not bring you sadness? I mean, its not as if someone is racist of his or her own will. Though in either case, its a sad state of affairs.
HalloFusilli 1 month ago
@HalloFusilli Or to put it simply i just preffer to not see religious people as sad i just dont agree with them,get over yourself and join the human race buddy,we can do without the pity
Battusai1984 1 month ago
stop asking us to mumble things on sundays
debenni 1 month ago
All things bright and beautiful, they don't live on the planet at the moment.
cyrodilicbrandy 1 month ago
"Stop asking us to mumble things on sundays"
Hilarious!
annemette1989 1 month ago
@sauggata do you understand the definition of theory in science? Evolution is a proven hypothesis, hence, a theory. It does not mean a guess.
dlichterman 1 month ago
Haha, Eddie said 4.5 million when he mean't 4.5 billion.
I'm going outside.
Cylixx3 1 month ago
@Cylixx3 Except he said 4.5 thousand million years old ;)
aarvak 1 month ago 9
@Cylixx3 I think he said four thousand five hundred million. there are two systems of numbers, the american/ science and then the british/ rest of the world... i think. anyway, in american/science system 1 thousand million = a billion. In british/ rest of the world, 1 million millions is a billion... So when he said four thousand five hundred million, that is pretty much saying 4.5 billion.
whatashitname 1 month ago
Science is about FINDING the truth through reason and logic. Religion thinks it has ALL the answers with no reason or logic to back it up.
dkthg 1 month ago
Deism. Look it up. I was raised theist, became atheist, and realized I was Deist the whole time. I think most atheists just look at religion and think that's what God is, but religion is to understand God, God isn't religion. Religion is based on truth, covered in horseshit. Jesus had it completely right, but Christianity is just silly. Deism is the most enlightened viewpoint on the whole God thing, really.
stfwho 1 month ago
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@stfwho Thank you for vindicating my argument that people hastily turn to atheism without knowing all the options. There are a lot of people who don't even know what Deism is - they see through the BS of religion and automatically consider themselves atheists. When I came to Deist conclusions by myself after doing a lot of reading, I personally had to Google "belief in god without religion" to find out what my ideology was called. I have always known about atheism on the other hand.
xTSxALLDAY 1 month ago
@stfwho I am an Atheist, and I don't believe in any gods, or the stories surrounding them. I don't think religion is based on any truth. I do, however, think what you said is just about perfect. Religion is a reason to kill our neighbors. Believing there is some sort of higher power, and nothing else, is just fine.
skywize 1 month ago
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sauggata 1 month ago
@sauggata I don't know about that because religion actively tries to blend our perceptions of subjectivity and objectivity. Even though there is a vast multiplicity in theistic dogma around the world, it is all believed to be fact. You may believe that Yahweh created the Earth in 7 days while an ancient Egyptian may believe Amun created the Earth differently. The point of science is to find commonality that nobody can dispute...so you should believe in theories born out of that thesis.
xTSxALLDAY 1 month ago
@xTSxALLDAY There you go ! Telling others what to believe in...ha. Not that I am a student of theology or I dispute the findings of science. FYI i don't want to know how the earth was created, for I don't think that info would help me in any way. All I know is that evolutionary science is very unscientific. Evolutionary scientists are Darwinists who refute any other theory and have been trying to prove the theory for years and can't find the missing link...well guess what...there isn't any.
sauggata 1 month ago
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escoba8008 1 month ago
@sauggata - stop parroting your fundie minister.
JBofBrisbane 1 month ago
@sauggata Yes, evolution is a theory, in the same way that gravity is a theory.
RectalSpoonNinja 1 month ago
@sauggata Yes! Thank God that science does not "preach" theories as you say. You ARE right that that would be insane - to preach a theory as anything at all, rather than letting the theory live or die on its on merits. Just out of curiosity....the theory of gravity: a sham?
dhead64 1 month ago
Beesus was COVERED IN BEES!
choperchic24 1 month ago 2
See this is what pisses me off...the title of the video is "religion, science, and atheism."
There are a lot of people who don't even know what Deism is - they see through the BS of religion and automatically consider themselves atheists. When I came to Deist conclusions by myself after doing a lot of reading, I personally had to Google "belief in god without religion" to find out what my ideology was called. I have always known about atheism.
xTSxALLDAY 1 month ago
I love Eddy. The English seem to the only ones that make fun of religion without fear. When I was a kid I was in love with Dave Allen, and Monty Python. Do that here and this is what you get..no we are so PC all we do is talk about race..hmmm And we are so evolved haha. Who cares what you believe in, it's comedy, live and let live...Go to Dave Allen on Religion they are fighting over there too, and Dave passed away some time ago. (rolls eyes)
VestasWitch 1 month ago
@VestasWitch
Can't love him that much if you can't spell his name. Pretty sure it's "Eddie". And if you think (as much as I am averse to beginning a sentence with "and") that the English are the only ones that make fun of religion without fear you've obviously never seen or heard of Bill Hicks, or several other American comics that I won't bother to mention here.
Pianoguitarman34 1 month ago
Hum. Dave Allen was Irish. Jewish comedians are pretty funny too don't you think? Still, I know what you mean, there don't seem to be too many Baptist or Mormon comedians out there. Give em time!
MrDdinchina 1 month ago
I am an atheist, but guys; respect people's beliefs: If they want to be Christian, it's their choice. Don't critizise anyone for their own decisions. Same goes to Christians, if we want to be atheists, don't condemm us for it
JCS20000 2 months ago
@JCS20000 Respect? Maybe, but It's essential to speak up because religion poisons everything...it seeks to subvert science and progress (creationism)...it asks for special privleges (taxes)...it forces its nonsense on kids (indoctrination, hell concept, compulsory prayer)...it subjugates minorities (atheists, gays)...
There are many many reasons why non believers should speak out. If the religious could keep their nonsense to themselves there would be no debate.
AtheistPowerlifter 2 months ago 48
Religion doesn't poison anything. It's a tool and nothing more. Some people use it to justify horrible things they do, others use it to justify great things they do and even more people use it just to get through life with some semblance of contentment. Religion, at it's core and how most people use it, is just a form of hope for something better. There's nothing bad in that. Attack the people who use it to justify their hateful and ignorant views, not the concept itself.
TheKaisama 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter I agree with much of what you said. However, it deserves tax exemption because it is not a part of our government system and through this exemption it is kept out of government issues because it does not pay its part to be permitted a vote. If not just for its destructive nature, religion is to be questioned because one does not agree with it. "Never be a spectator of unfairness or stupidity. Seek out argument and disputation for their own sake" - C. Hitchens
TheFlashandFriends 1 month ago
@TheFlashandFriends Hmmm..excellent point.
AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter Oh there would be. Just look at Dawkins. It doesn't matter if the subject fits or not. Every time is good time for remarks on religion. It's just our cheap monkey nature. I'm sure you're as certain of yours as religious people are of theirs.
If scientists could just shut the fuck up and do their research, and creationists would keep their fantasy world to themselves, world would be a much happier place.
As for taxes, it's hard to disagree.
kbprojekty 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter The atheist Delusion!
How could some of the scientists permit themselves to make a claim that would necessitate knowledge as extensive as the scheme of the universe, when their knowledge of the total scheme of being is *close* to zero, when confronted with a whole mass of unknowns concerning this very earth and tangible, lifeless matter, let alone the whole universe?
1tabligh 1 month ago
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AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
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@1tabligh I don't know. I think the scientific method has given cosmologists a lot of information about the universe. I trust what they have to say when they overwhelmingly agree.
I could easily change 'scientists' in your comment to >> 'theists' and 'the scheme of the universe' to >> 'god'. But they would even know less than you claim scientists know.
I would also have to change 'some' in the 1st sentence to >> 'all'.
PS...you don't have to agree with cosmologists to be atheist.
AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
@1tabligh you are being ironic aren't you?
avjunza111 1 month ago
@avjunza111 The atheist Delusion!
Should the scientist, who is aware of the natural causes and of the factors determining each step of creation towards perfection, of mankind's evolution, of the minute accuracy and exactitude that rules every change in the nature that surrounds us, come to believe that these wondrous laws and amazing interactions have somehow *fortuitously* emerged out of *mindless* matter?
1tabligh 1 month ago
@Atheist...Do scientific discoveries and knowledge cause such a scientist to conclude that matter, *unknowing and unperceiving *, is his creator and that of all beings?
No?
Then how can the duped atheists and some of the scientists delude themselve and *believe* that hydrogen and oxygen, electrons and protons, should first produce themselves, then be the source for all other beings, and finally decree the laws that regulate themselves and the rest of the material world?
1tabligh 1 month ago
@1tabligh I don't know what was "before" the universe, or how this all began. You don't either. The answer is "I don't know".
Science simply states what it knows and doesn't know. Too bad theists can't say the same.
All they have left is this god of the gaps argument "well you don't know what started the universe, therefore>>>"goddidit"". This is intellectual laziness.
I don't think there's anywhere else to go with this topic.
AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter What is called science by the *science-worshippers of the present age and regarded by them as equivalent to the sum total of *reality*, is simply a collection of laws applicable to a single dimension of the world. The result of all human effort and experimentation is a body of knowledge concerning a minute bright dot comparable to the dim light of a candle-surrounded by a dark night enveloping a huge desert of indefinite extent.
All praise is due to ALLAH
1tabligh 1 month ago
@1tabligh I have no idea what any of the white noise you just typed meant, but ok bud. If you say so.
You need to believe in magic to come to grips with it all, I don't.
cheers
AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter The atheist Delusion!
Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God is purely *rhetorical* and has nothing to do with logical method, because even thousands of scientific experiments could not possibly suffice to demonstrate that no non-material being or factor exists.
Your delusion is nothing more than a *fanatical* illusion based on unproven theories.
1tabligh 1 month ago
@1tabligh "Your delusion that science has put out the notion of God...". Show me where I have said this.
Look up "burden of proof". You make the claim, not I. Now prove it
AtheistPowerlifter 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter It's in your thoughts, mind and views such as these derive directly from a system of thought centered on materialism; within it, everything is defined and delimited with reference to materialism.
To interpret materialism in such a sense is in the final analysis strictly meaningless; it would be a superstitious notion involving the perversion of truth, and to regard it as scientific would, in fact, be *treason* to science.
1tabligh 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter If man, through the application of scientific instruments and criteria, cannot perceive the existence of a thing, he cannot deny its existence simply because it is incompatible with material criteria, unless he disposes of some proof that the thing in question is impossible.
1tabligh 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter Thank you! Well said
TheMrmi22 1 month ago
@AtheistPowerlifter Nope. Not nonsense, first off, very logical, some science actually supports it, if you think about it, but not gonna argue about that. I don't insult your belief, you don't insult mine. Also, these things are ridiculous arguements, those are things that happen when people abuse other people's faith. And there is no "forcing nonsense on kids" or "subjugating minors," those are the individual people. Sorry, pal, but your profiling makes you very predgidous.
Matthmatt1213 3 weeks ago
@Matthmatt1213 Thanks for your rant but I was simply responding to a post which basically stated "why don't atheists just shut up'. It's basically what you are saying. I stand by what I said. I'm not fucking retarded I realize that most theists have moved past the crude values of their holy books. But until caustic religion stops having such a negative influence on the public sphere it's important to speak up.
AtheistPowerlifter 3 weeks ago
@Matthmatt1213 I was forced to recite the Lords prayer in public school...our public school system pushed christianity at every turn. Things are changing as society is becoming more secular. I don't care if you're offended, you don't have the right not to be. You said that "I am doing the same thing I accuse the religious of." How so? I am simply asking for the right not to listen to religious bullshit...like swearing in on the bible or 10 commandment plaques in the courthouse.
AtheistPowerlifter 3 weeks ago
@AtheistPowerlifter just refuse. there is no law saying you have to swear on the bible. i know i won't.
brownie7317 2 weeks ago
@AtheistPowerlifter And the "subjugating minorities" thing, I know it was in the bible, but most religious people are fine with the minorities. These people realize that times have changed, and even if they do not agree with something (I personally am fine with your religion or homosexuals or other minorities), it's not worth attacking people over. Many atheists are the same way.Also I'd like to point out that you are doing exactly the thing you accuse ALL religious people of
Matthmatt1213 3 weeks ago
@AtheistPowerlifter If you want something to fight against, go against the freaking health care bill in U.S.A., where I live. Completely unconstitutional. Does Congress care? No. Should we? Yes. The number of people who do these things are very few. And for the forcing of belief on kids, even those people usually let them choose once they're responsible enough. And might I add that vegetarians force their kids not to eat meat until they're responsible enough. Don't hate.
Matthmatt1213 3 weeks ago
@Matthmatt1213 I could give a fuck about vegetarians or US health care. Do you care about aboriginal treaty rights in the maritimes where I live? Or long wait times we exp in our health care system? There are many "causes".
I don't care what people believe, just keep it private - even jesus said to do that. And giving an anonymous opinion on YT is hardly "fighting" something. The next time I get told I'm not a real Canadian because I don't love jesus I'll think of your rant.
AtheistPowerlifter 3 weeks ago
@Matthmatt1213 Anyways man I appreciate your opinion but no one has the right to not be criticized, or questioned...even religion. Religion has been ingenious with it's marketing campaign that it is very taboo to speak against it.
And yes they still indoctrinate kids (watch the terrifying "jesus camp") and they still subjugate others (women? Afghanistan...homosexuals? Everywhere). I know not ALL but it still happens - and it is mostly due to belief in old books/magic sky gods.
AtheistPowerlifter 3 weeks ago
@JCS20000 Lawl, for an atheist you sure know quite little about Christianity. They have Bible verses that basically condemn atheism. Other than that their main mantra is to proclaim the gospel to the non-believers. It would be an oxymoron for a Christian to not interfere. After all Christians think you will burn in a lake FOREVER and he has the good message to save you from your sin. If a Christian does not interfere he is a horrible person as he is fine with you burning forever. ;)
scrap222666 1 month ago
@scrap222666 I'm befuddled as to why you put a winky face next to your statement about athiests burning in a lake forever. Does the thought of eternal torture amuse you?
But, yes, you do have a point. Many Christians believe that it's their duty to convert non-Christians because the fear of letting a fellow human being endure eternal punishment is so potent for them. It's an aspect of Christianity that Christians themselves are very divided about. It's very complicated. :(
CherryFairy02 1 month ago
@CherryFairy02 Eternal torture does not amuse me. Eternal torture based on stupid claims however does. Think of it as this. 2 dominant religions, Islam and Christianity. One teaches you need works, the other you don't. One says God is a trinity, the other says god is one. Both debate opposite to eachother "You can't go to heaven with works only!" other "You can't go to heaven with just belief!" . Us atheists see how contradictory this all is.
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JezusSlave 2 months ago
Atheists are more intelligent than religious believers, well that wouldn't be hard lol (scientific fact)
Forceofhabbit 2 months ago in playlist More videos from SirGrowalott
in response to hc4jd. hmm...hundreds of years eh? so WWII's Holocaust, 9/11, the constant war in Palestine, Jamestown, The Shiite - Sunni clashes, bombs, and murders still going on in Iraq, I could research more, but you get the point. None of these count then?
sinjis75 2 months ago
@Farsight20 ever heard of the holocaust dipshit
skt8r24 2 months ago
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skt8r24 2 months ago
I am such a fan. He has one of the sharpest wits out there. Big smiles!
justinlwerner 2 months ago
Je suis un travesti executive.....
bobduvar 2 months ago 13
@bobduvar Tres bien!
TheQuesondriac 1 month ago
ararar, lets eat him
TheFanofmanythings1 2 months ago
You know what guys, just what ever gets you through the day. Believe what you want, I don't care, you could be right, I could right, we both could be wrong. Just don't try to kill me for what you believe.
hc4jd 2 months ago
@hc4jd That's such BS. No one has tried to kill anyone for what they believe in regards to religion on a widespread scale in hundreds of years to even make that a valid comment. And what's more, who's going to hunt you down on youtube and kill you for what you believe? Why would anyone do that? It's an inflammatory and prejudice comment and nothing more.
Farsight20 2 months ago
@Farsight20 "No one has tried to kill anyone for what they believe in regards to religion on a widespread scale in hundreds of years to even make that a valid comment."
wow. what a strange little bubble you live in.
TheHigherVoltage 2 months ago 4
@Farsight20 Uh. So. 9/11 was no big deal, then? Good to know. I'll let my dad in on the good news the next time I take flowers to his grave.
LolaArmyBrat 2 months ago
@Farsight20 wow. that is literally the most stupid thing i have ever heard.
noreasonforaccount 1 month ago
Thanks for this, I've not seen this one before!!!
Elaina43 2 months ago
ra ra rah ra then I pooed him out! hahaha
plowingzero 2 months ago
What tour is this from? It's the only one I don't have!
ecureuil85 2 months ago
@ecureuil85 it's from 'Stripped'. I saw him live in Pittsburgh performing this a few years back, but I haven't seen the tour come out on DVD yet.
vze57t9j 2 months ago
Oh Eddie, I love you
ecureuil85 2 months ago
I wish I could continually discover Eddie for the first time. Truly wonderful!
wonCrash 2 months ago
GENIUS
twistedbass15 2 months ago
"If you're not allowed to do anything fuck off then!"
NightmareCinemaChild 2 months ago
"If there was a god, dont you think he would have flick hilters head off" Becuase ya know god is a super hero that pops into reality that attacks people that do wrong things. haha atheism.
CneeKrunch 2 months ago
@CneeKrunch: did you realize this is comedy? "haha comedians", yes. I keep noticing that religion and humor seldom meet in the same brain..
Mejuz 2 months ago
@CneeKrunch - Well, he did push the Red Sea back to let the Israelites escape the Egyptians, didn't he - or did he? Haha fundamentalism.
JBofBrisbane 1 month ago
Greatest dinosaur impression ever!
customerjon 2 months ago
@customerjon: ooooh yesss! His giraffe-impression is good, too. Evil giraffe that is! :-)
Mejuz 2 months ago
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FryGuy112 2 months ago
"If you can't do anything, then fuck off!" - so true.
jezmuff 2 months ago 2
besus, cesus... jesus ahahahahah
marvincontendo 2 months ago
Awesome! I love his accent
katerockeIII 2 months ago
That Jacket kicks ass!
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