Raw Vs Jpeg: White Balance Recovery example

[Kelspitchenese16]

Thank you so much, I did not know the difference between the two. You sir, have saved my life for assignments in my photography program! Reason why I looked this up is because I came into the course pretty late. Bye.

[djsmithy]

I wish I had a RAW lens built into my eye so I could tone down all the Orange make up I see chicks wearing on their face!

I think I'll stick to using beer goggles for now though! :P

[TJCOnes10]

exactly what I want from a video- very brief and precise!!

[MiserableSpice]

I've noticed, when I do self portraits, that if I use an orange gel, my skin looks smoother. Easy enough on the model you used here. Harder on my 40 year old male craggy self. Go orange light!! And great conversion demo and video Dom!

[michaelchimera]

It's a workflow issue...sit for hours correcting bad shots or get it right the first time. Shooting RAW is your airbag...it says I'm not proficient to set my camera and lighting right and I'll just try to fix all the images in post. It takes seconds to set everything right in camera but hours correcting mistakes by shooting RAW.

[Dombowerphoto]

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that is my example of all the settings are fine in camera but in the end with some small bits of tweeking i get 3 completely different feeling images. The taking of the photo is just the start of an image. its what you do with it that counts

[12shinobi12]

@michaelchimera absolutely not. i shoot nightlife with constant changing colour and lighting, also outdoors and sports all you have no control over the light and you have to be fast i don't have time to sit there and redo all my settings every second the light changes thats ridiculous sure shooting in studio you have time to do such things but even so what if for some reason that AWESOME shot for some reason didn't turn out now your fucked. also noise reduction and sharpening better on raw.

[12shinobi12]

@michaelchimera and also if you need to do any kind of little fine tweaking witch im almost positive you do, if not get your shit together, and what if i want to throw in some split toning or change the hugh of a certain colour to get the feel i want things you can't do in camera raw once again is a MUCH MUCH better rout then JPG unless you don't care about the jpg compression, i don't know about you but i like the best possible outcome no matter what. yes i get all my settings correct in camera

[12shinobi12]

@michaelchimera but you still need to shoot in raw for any little tweaks you wanna do. ps these posts go in order from bottom to top

[12shinobi12]

@michaelchimera and if your sitting for hours correcting shots i think you need to learn how to use your editing program a little better ill shoot 300 club shots in a night and be done importing, editing, and exporting ALL of them in an hour- an hour n a half

[chris072580]

@michaelchimera if you spend hours to edit raw files than you are doing something very wrong.. I would rather set my lighting on a 27 inch computer screen then on a 3 inch camera screen. And by the way I do get it right the first time!!!!

[chris072580]

@michaelchimera True photography is not just taking a picture and thats it. True photography is taking a good picture and than make it great by editing the picture. Raw format has been around since the early 1900s but back then it was called the dark room.

[bryonlape]

@michaelchimera I do strive to get in right in the camera AND I shoot RAW.

[ToyotaCharlie]

@michaelchimera Its not only a workflow issue. Shooting JPG equals throwing away information. JPG is limited to 8bit/channel (256 values), the rest is clipped. RAW formats have up to 14bit (16384/ch) allowing higher dynamic range. There are also other benefits of shooting RAW. The drawbacks (bigger filesize, higher computing power requirements) are negligible for any (semi)pro photographer. shooting in raw doesn't mean you have to fix everything afterwards. it's more like choosing a better film.

[michaelchimera]

Get it right in camera method is the best approach. If you know what you're doing each image should be color balanced when you take the shot as long as you're camera settings are set baseline to the lightmeter then adjust f-stop if needed. If you know how to light and set the camera correctly you should only have blemish removal and tiny tweaks to fix post process.

[Dombowerphoto]

@michaelchimera never owned a light meter, or a temp colour meter (never heard of one of those) and dont bother with custom white balance as i shoot raw. guess its like driving, who needs airbags if they can drive safely

[SnapzTV]

@Dombowerphoto "guess its like driving, who needs airbags if they can drive safely"

Best quote I've seen this year LOL. Great video too! (:

[loungekingfilms]

Hey man, great post. I would say this though, I am not a raw shooter and I don't ever really plan on shooting raw unless I do commercial work (which I don't, I do weddings). I think that shooting raw is good for those people who need to be able to correct mistakes made during the shoot when it comes to lighting OR in more difficult lighting situations BUT for the most part if you take the picture RIGHT the first time then you should be ok. Again I am not criticizing I am just speaking in general

[Darkgalahad]

Very clean Presentation, thank you!

[hewey999]

Nice example of the raw power of Raw!

[streetstaruk]

Hey Dom, love ur videos as always. Quick question. I have a Nikon D90 and i have my settings on RAW, but for some reason it will not open up in Camera Raw or Photoshop? Its set as RAW on my cam and the extension on the file says NEF in Bridge? Please help if u can. Many thanks mate :)

[niftyfiftyphoto]

i sorda like the blown out pink

[xboxcrazee]

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[xboxcrazee]

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[JennyFerozz]

RAW es perfecto!! me deja hacer lo que quiera y queda como yo quiero!!

[RaltsWooper]

RAW is god

[BurneyFM]

I shoot RAW.

[OfTheAlchemyBand]

Ken Rockwell disliked this

[dima9944]

Anyone who has a DSLR and shoots JPEG deserves to have their hands cut off.

[nerwin]

Thats why I only shoot RAW!! 

[gilegraam]

@nerwin That is the reason? Because you make a lot of mistakes?

[nerwin]

@gilegraam I just prefer shooting raw and editing it to the way I like it, when I shoot raw I don't need to worry about my white balance. Plus if something like what Dom showed in this video happens, then you could still bring the image back if you needed too. I just like raw because it has more data than jpeg, I can do a lot more to them.

[FotografiaTreuze]

Raw is awesome <3

[msmhw]

please what program you are using for edit it ?

and is the raw pics work with same in all cameras? I have canon 400D

[yautja1701]

@msmhw Lightroom 3 probably and yes you will have the same flexibility regardless of what camera you are using.

[Dombowerphoto]

@msmhw look at the top left of the video at the start

[heuykiller]

Awesome picture!

[antropoloscar]

i dont need to edit my RAW because i get perfect exposures in JPG,,so why bother re editing them in RAW ?

[ashkibala1]

@antropoloscar RAW images are 14bit images. JPG files are 8bit. you have more information with RAW. if you shoot a white hairy dog in bright sunlight in JPG, the dog's fur will be 255 absolute white with no data. But if you shoot the same thing in RAW, you can use the Recovery slider and bring all the details back. It's not a must. It's more like a preference and the difference is not just in exposure.

[Wuzzysbrand06]

@antropoloscar Because the edited RAW looks better than the unedited JPEG. Look up this video "Photography Raw vs Jpeg 2".

[Snakekilla12]

Linda is soooooooooooo HOT!!!

[antropoloscar]

WHEN I SHOOT RAW MY PHOTOS LOOK WEIRD AND FLAT<,i rater shoot Jpeg

[TheLarspojken]

@antropoloscar

[llleolllolll]

@antropoloscar yeag because you HAVE to EDIT the RAW!!! jpegs are in camera edited!

[ZagatoZee]

@antropoloscar If you like the JPEGs that your camera outputs, that's fine, just use lightroom and select the camera profile that gives a similar outcome to the in camera JPEG's. When your lively hood depends on the shot, shooting it in JPEG can cost you money on lost shots. Like the Dom shows here, a missed / blown / fkd up shot wont make you any money if your camera saved it as a Jpeg, the RAW is recoverable to a cash making state.

[rastafaris123]

I SHOOT RAW.

[thebluecollargeek]

Why were you using an orange gel anyway? Just curious!

[MrNadavik]

@thebluecollargeek probably to make the picture bad so he can show us the diffrent ..

[Dombowerphoto]

@thebluecollargeek it was getting into position as a background light.

[djmaxnz]

thanks alot for a great example



[crispycritterz]

On shoots like this, not only do I shoot both raw and jpg, but I shoot a gray card.

I know what you're thinking, but the benefits far outweigh the minuscule cost.

Better to have an not need than need and not have.

[mvakleko]

Great demo m8!

[gsyguy1]

you can always use the Colour in LR3 instead of the WB.by shifting the Orange and the yellow,Im not saying it will be perfect but its another way of adjusting the colour :)

[gandalfnl2000]

Do you ever use a colorchecker passport Dom?

[Dombowerphoto]

@gandalfnl2000 never used a colour checker passport, and some i have seen are around £100… not sure if i need that.

[starfedrogue]

@Dombowerphoto I use the passport and I can attest to its awesomeness. I was very reluctant to part with that money, but I'm glad I did. Since you actually make money from your pics you'd probably benefit from it even more.

[jnatividad]

Well done!

[Mz59Fifty]

Normally if I mess up a jpg image, its instantly going to be a black and white in post lol.. I definitely recommend shooting in both jpg & raw.. You never know when you need either..

[Wuzzysbrand06]

@Mz59Fifty Why waste so much space on your card by shooting both? Just shoot RAW and you can convert it to a JPEG anyway when you need it. You have so much more control and more data to work with in a RAW file. That's why I've never shot JPEG and never will.

[Mz59Fifty]

@Wuzzysbrand06 i always stick with raw/jpg format because I prefer to have both options, I use either one or both files, depending upon my needs and the final use of the image. I use/own multiple cards so the space is not a big deal imo. But honestly both raw & jpg have their advantages/disadvantages so I always choose both when I can..

[Wuzzysbrand06]

@Mz59Fifty What I was getting at is that RAW can be converted to JPEG but you can't get a RAW file out of a JPEG...so you essentially have both when shooting RAW. I've never had a situation where I specifically needed a JPEG file (I do export to JPEG after the edit). Depends on what you're doing I guess.

[meatwad4900]

@Wuzzysbrand06 Some people to my understanding shoot raw+jpeg so they could give an editor a jpeg immediately so they can choose which specific raw file they want to work on.

[ThomasShortley]

i try to shoot raw but the only reason i cant is that i am doing photography at college and the iMacs they have do not support raw files

[ZagatoZee]

@ThomasShortley tell your school to update the iMacs then! The RAW codecs are free and any half respectable editing application has RAW support.

[jh3835]

i shoot RAW

[masticina]

Yup Raw is very nice, being able to fix mistakes later. Not to mention sometimes the automatic choices the camera makes are ... not that good. Fixing it in raw is much easier.