And thus the difficulty of trying to force more scientifically minded and well educated people into a melange of unscientific drivel known as "The Big Book". This man is brilliant, and no one who doesn't have research to back up their claims should ever be listened to in the first place anyways. People know this, but are expected to go on blind faith in "recovery culture", then called idiotic names like "dry drunks" when they reject what amounts to dogma. Go Dr. Peele!
@travellinman321 well,i dont think there is much else to be said herei.if you can clean up without help good for you..im glad you were able to clean up and i wish you continued success with that travelinman.good luck to you.
@travellinman321 once againwhat part of what i said two posts ago wasnt true?How did you treat your alcoholism?As much as you have to say about it you must have dealt with an alcohol problem succesfully. RIGHT.or are you opining about things you know nothing about firsthand?i suspect it is the latter.in 20 years of sobriety in aa i have attended the funerals of people who decided they didnt need to get to core of what was wrong insideof there soulsthe steps are the one thing i found that works.
@travellinman321 whats not true?Powelessness over alcohl is the reason you dont take the first drink.of course its mentioned all over the book.AA has no advice for the guy who already took a drink.the steps and choices the guy took cant be changed.Its about what you can do today not to go back..Most aa's have stopped many times.The ones who dont take the first drink stay stopped.the ones who do take it dont.simple as that.in aa the first thing you do is stop drinking. then the work starts
@travellinman321 you have a problem with something aa does not address.aa is not in the business of teaching people what to do after they take a drink.it is in the business of helping seriously broken people who have a desire to stop drinking.would you tell a man who barely survived the DT's next time show some character?i would tell him there is a pretty good chance you could die next time.maybe there better not be a next time.if you dont take the first drink there can never be a next time.
@travellinman32 My grandmother was hooked on phenobarbitol due to years of use. Well meaning doctors started her on it years ago to help control her epilepsy. If she was withdrawn from pheonobarbitol cold turkey it would have a high probabilty of stopping her heart. This is one of the characteristics of phenobarbitol addiction.Physical addiction is real and kicks back in after a period of abstinence if you consume the drug.thats why u dont take the first drink
@travellinman321 I didnt know what would happen if i took the next drink long before i knew about aa. a.)all people are conditioned by their bad and good habits and theie experiences,its part of lliving and learning and it happens to EVERYONE including you. b.)life is full of unmanageables whether you take the drink or not.If I take the first drink it will be because i wanted to drink more than i wanted sobriety.by the way is it just alkys u figured out or is all addiction just a hoax?
if you are an alcoholic you have a choice whether to drink only up to the point where you consume alchohol. after you consume it you lose the choice. thats not normal. most people can stop for a beer or two then go home . i cant. i have to abstain. the period before the first drink is crucial. thats where the idea of the allergy came from. an abnormal reaction. i have to ask god to help me through this part. i pity those who cant surrender to god . they are going to have a rough time.
@rogerc99 allergy(def) An abnormally high immunologic sensitivity to certain stimuli such as drugs, foods, environmental irritants, microorganisms, or physical conditions, such as temperature extremes. These stimuli act as antigens, provoking an immunological response involving the release of inflammatory substances, such as histamine, in the body. Alcoholism is neither disease nor allergy. It is choice with an outcome.
@beautifulmind546 I dont beleive it is a true allergy at all. Just an abnormal reaction compared to most peoples reaction to alcohol. If you suffer from the condition I suffer from you do have a choice whether to drink, but only up to the point where you drink alcohol. If I drank right now after 20 years of sobriety I dont know what would happen but at the time I quit one drink was all it tookto trigger a drunkk.
@rogerc99 your reaction is no more abnormal or special than anyone else who drinks alcohol to excess. You keep telling yourself these lies and manipulations to avoid the core of responsibility in it. Own that when you choose to drink, you more often than not choose to be drunk to escape yourself and in the process you reak havoc on the lives of people around you. That is true for every single human being. You are completely in control over what you choose to do and completely at fault
@beautifulmind546 but i not only dont drink to excess, i dont drink at all. Far from avoiding my responsibility, i dedicated myself to not drinking again. Drinking to escape is at the core of why I drank again and again, Not taking the first drink is the key to not letting alcohol take control of my life again. Any hope of recovery hinges totally on not taking the first drink and trying every day to do the next right thing. I am totally responsible for every thing I ever did.who said i wasnt?
The idea that alcoholism is a disease has always been a political and moral notion with no scientific basis. It was first promoted in the U.S. around 1785 as an erroneous physiological theory (Levine, 1978), and later became a theme of the temperance movement (Gusfield, 1963). It was revived by AA in the 1930s, which derived its views from an amalgam of religious ideas, personal experiences, anecdotal observations, and the unsubstantiated theories of a contemporary physician (Robinson, 1979)...
Kishline got drunk, drove, and killed two people AFTER she left moderation management and committed herself to AA. Get your facts straight. The disease model, AA, and abstinence obsession destroys more lives in this country than harm reduction. Telling someone they are powerless over alcohol and will always drink to excess once they start is a sure way of helping them succeed if they happen to drink again.right. Look what happened to Audrey Kishline.
@Star16 The FACTS are that she began AA . however, she was NOT abstinent obivously- something that MR Peele advocated when he lent his support to Moderate Management... After that terrible accident Mr Peele was NOT supportive of Audrey at all, although he advocates non=abstinence, and denouces alcoholism as a disease, and AA as not effective. So what position DID he advocate? He bailed on her......
@Star16 Further more Star16, if Audrey had remained abstinent, as AA advocates, we would not be having this debate... Audrey went back to MM, it's so obvious. There is NO such thing as Harm Reduction , except , abstinence, zero tolerance, otherwise that accident might not have happened. You are powerless over alcohol, no one has control of how it metabolizes in your body. No one has control over how an apple metabolizes, either, but it doesn't cause impaired judgement, or fatal accidents, .
@Star16 Inconclusion Star16, Not ALL people who leave AA and continue alcohol consumption have a control problem, not ALL who are in MM and drink have it under control.. It's the Unpredictible Probability of remaining moderate or not have impaired judgement or causing physical harm to one's self so those are the real questions, No? AA says stop now and forever, for a damn good reason, because NO ONE can predict how it will affect , eventually.
@Star16 I find your statements funny. If an alcoholic drinks and they drink in excess and die how is that AA's problem. If anyone who has a problem with using any in excess there are going to be consequences. SO if the alcoholic doesn't drink at all and never drinks alcohol again where is the problem? SO if they know when they drink that problems are going to arise how is that a bad thing?
@Star16 Also I see you and I share taste in movies....so I will use a line from a movie to prove a point. "Get busy living or get busy dying" So in AA if you are working on yourself to stop getting high or drunk and working on the issues you have in life don't you think that is getting busy living. Vers getting drunk and high not dealing with anything. What do you think?
@Godlyguitarman These are not my posts. You and the person you are arguing with do NOT share the same taste in movies. Someone I know was using my account to post here and I'm not really sure what you and him are arguing about.
@evet45 Everyone that has been disagree with us about the whole disease issues here is how the American Heritage defines it:A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.
A condition or tendency, as of society, regarded as abnormal and harmful.
Alcoholism is not a disease. Nor is addiction. Uncontrollable habits are not what biological diseases are, and don't fit the definition. They are metabolic habits used to suppress feelings/trauma etc. Onie, below is not informed--with respect for his beliefs. Thank you. Dual-diagnosed counselor, biomedical engineer. MD
A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.
A condition or tendency, as of society, regarded as abnormal and harmful
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He he - I realy do love when single people arguement against common knowledge! Ask this dude if he knows more about alcoholism than WHO? Or even better.... what other deseases are not realy a desease??? I am sure many people would be glad to get the good news, that they are not sick, but healthy as a newborn child...
"He he - I realy do love when single people arguement against common knowledge! Ask this dude if he knows more about alcoholism than WHO? Or even better.... what other deseases are not realy a desease??? I am sure many people would be glad to get the good news, that they are not sick, but healthy as a newborn child..."
Let me ask you...
On what grounds do you define alcoholism as a physiopathological disease?
Are you coming on to me? Is that why you want me to visit you? Sorry, I don't swing that way, I'm on the blue team, but I understand that some people are on the pink team and that's OK with me. My cousin was like that too. He used to try to hide it, but everone knew anyway so you might as well just let everyone know and stop feeling guilty about it.
It would be interesting to read reasoned opposing arguments, rather than criticisms of the man's decor and dress sense!
It is well-known that excessive drinking causes all sorts of grave medical consequences, including cirrhosis of the liver, which my own brother died of, but that is a disease in its own right, not the disease of alcoholism. I don't think anyone is seeking to minimise the gravity of the problem here.
They have simply folded. They give up on people who refuse to take personal responsibility for their lives. This is no more a disease than stabbing yourself in the face with a fork. Both are a deliberate series of decisions.
Just listen to a "war story" and you will see they made lots of deliberate decisions.
This was written buy NCAAD (AA FRONT GROUP) after several years of beating AMA to death. Also this is the same AMA that thinks you should not have affordable or state sanctioned heath care like all of the other 1st world countries. Because of groups like the AMA Cuba's health care system is better than ours.
Mr. Isegoria. Are you from Cuba? You look like you might be from some 3rd world country. Are you going to go back there for the health care? If you do, could you persuade Dr Peele to go with you? I like to watch his mouth. I turn down the sound and just watch his mouth. Yours is good too, but his is better because I don't think he has any teeth. If you take him back to Cuba with you maybe he can get some teeth.
Cuba? No, but they do have far better health care than the US. So fuck you and your 3rd world comment. Like I said you are a piece of shit that is why I have blocked you. Only a moron would allow you to continue to comment like you do. I do invite you fucker to come and say some of that shit to my face - My address is easy to find - Bring it!
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I did not mean to offend you, but you said you were an expert on Cuba and I thought you might be from there. You do look like a Cuban or a Middle East person with your big moustach and swarthy complextion. Actually you are quite handsome in a rustic sort of way, but I am not gay so just because I said that, please don't think I'm interested in your proposal to get together.
hey sordid, dont be sorry if you hurt the cubans feelings. why be sorry, when you can be bright. it really is funny when one has to resort to foul language. oh and insegoria i am nasty but not nasty enough to block someone but hey put up walls if you want. that's sort of like communism right? btw ever seen me hoop? that's straight nasty. great stach mang
Cuban? Shows your lack of intelligence in all possible ways. Just how the hell do you justify continuing to punish those around you by living?
You are blocked because you are INCAPABLE of stringing together a decent response based on anything but adhom attacks which shows you still have no clue what you are dealing with.
If alcholism isn't a disease, perhaps this guy should use his fancy degrees to create a wonder drug. No matter what I post, will be simply disregarded and classifies as (fill in the blank). I'd have love to ask this jokers opinion about the "disease" if he was at my family gathering. Well, he probably wouldn't have made it out alive. Say what you will about anything doc. It's your world pal, I'm just walking through it. Envy? Perhaps, but you could tell that a mile away in your ivory tower.
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look, obviously you know all the answers and obviously all the decisions made by you are probably right. when is your book coming out? i'd love an autographed copy
I saw your bullshit you posted in my vlogs and surprise - You are brain dead. You are a POS for a human and a sad waste of air. Not sure why you have to show us all how much of an asshole you really are. You are a sad pathetic person stuck in their own trap. Has it occurred to you no one wants your deluded version of the world?
There is no wonder drug for irresponsibility. If they make that one then they can get started on one for stupid and then I wont have to waste time responding to inane posts like yours.
I never claimed to have all the answers but it appears you have. If you require an argument from authority then sadly you may die in your choices.
It takes thousands of choices to make an addiction, it only takes one to undo it.
Are you really powerless over an inanimate object?
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dude, stagnant nastiness is the best compliment i have ever gotten. probably the most accurate too. we agree to disagree. obviously if i am in aa i answered your last question dummy but you have self control, i don't and go to meetings. hit me up with that pre release. i am an editor
oh and like i said 8 months ago no matter what i write it will simply be disregarded and well, fill in the blank. but what do i know, today i am controlling my powerlessness over inanimate objects. the internet is amazing.
And thus the difficulty of trying to force more scientifically minded and well educated people into a melange of unscientific drivel known as "The Big Book". This man is brilliant, and no one who doesn't have research to back up their claims should ever be listened to in the first place anyways. People know this, but are expected to go on blind faith in "recovery culture", then called idiotic names like "dry drunks" when they reject what amounts to dogma. Go Dr. Peele!
LexeconKiddo 5 months ago
Nice. Lol I like when he says, "it's totally unscienfic and dysfunctional to call alcoholism a disease."
driven6996 6 months ago
@travellinman321 well,i dont think there is much else to be said herei.if you can clean up without help good for you..im glad you were able to clean up and i wish you continued success with that travelinman.good luck to you.
rogerc99 8 months ago
@travellinman321 once againwhat part of what i said two posts ago wasnt true?How did you treat your alcoholism?As much as you have to say about it you must have dealt with an alcohol problem succesfully. RIGHT.or are you opining about things you know nothing about firsthand?i suspect it is the latter.in 20 years of sobriety in aa i have attended the funerals of people who decided they didnt need to get to core of what was wrong insideof there soulsthe steps are the one thing i found that works.
rogerc99 8 months ago
@travellinman321 whats not true?Powelessness over alcohl is the reason you dont take the first drink.of course its mentioned all over the book.AA has no advice for the guy who already took a drink.the steps and choices the guy took cant be changed.Its about what you can do today not to go back..Most aa's have stopped many times.The ones who dont take the first drink stay stopped.the ones who do take it dont.simple as that.in aa the first thing you do is stop drinking. then the work starts
rogerc99 8 months ago
@travellinman321 you have a problem with something aa does not address.aa is not in the business of teaching people what to do after they take a drink.it is in the business of helping seriously broken people who have a desire to stop drinking.would you tell a man who barely survived the DT's next time show some character?i would tell him there is a pretty good chance you could die next time.maybe there better not be a next time.if you dont take the first drink there can never be a next time.
rogerc99 8 months ago
@travellinman32 My grandmother was hooked on phenobarbitol due to years of use. Well meaning doctors started her on it years ago to help control her epilepsy. If she was withdrawn from pheonobarbitol cold turkey it would have a high probabilty of stopping her heart. This is one of the characteristics of phenobarbitol addiction.Physical addiction is real and kicks back in after a period of abstinence if you consume the drug.thats why u dont take the first drink
rogerc99 8 months ago
@travellinman321 I didnt know what would happen if i took the next drink long before i knew about aa. a.)all people are conditioned by their bad and good habits and theie experiences,its part of lliving and learning and it happens to EVERYONE including you. b.)life is full of unmanageables whether you take the drink or not.If I take the first drink it will be because i wanted to drink more than i wanted sobriety.by the way is it just alkys u figured out or is all addiction just a hoax?
rogerc99 8 months ago
People who say it's a disease = human filth with no self control. Overdose, please, alcoholics.
Feuyaer 1 year ago
DSM anybody?
WhoisThomasJohnson 1 year ago
@WhoisThomasJohnson
Good call!
Knockout blow...
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
if you are an alcoholic you have a choice whether to drink only up to the point where you consume alchohol. after you consume it you lose the choice. thats not normal. most people can stop for a beer or two then go home . i cant. i have to abstain. the period before the first drink is crucial. thats where the idea of the allergy came from. an abnormal reaction. i have to ask god to help me through this part. i pity those who cant surrender to god . they are going to have a rough time.
rogerc99 1 year ago
@rogerc99 allergy(def) An abnormally high immunologic sensitivity to certain stimuli such as drugs, foods, environmental irritants, microorganisms, or physical conditions, such as temperature extremes. These stimuli act as antigens, provoking an immunological response involving the release of inflammatory substances, such as histamine, in the body. Alcoholism is neither disease nor allergy. It is choice with an outcome.
beautifulmind546 9 months ago
@beautifulmind546 I dont beleive it is a true allergy at all. Just an abnormal reaction compared to most peoples reaction to alcohol. If you suffer from the condition I suffer from you do have a choice whether to drink, but only up to the point where you drink alcohol. If I drank right now after 20 years of sobriety I dont know what would happen but at the time I quit one drink was all it tookto trigger a drunkk.
rogerc99 9 months ago
@rogerc99 your reaction is no more abnormal or special than anyone else who drinks alcohol to excess. You keep telling yourself these lies and manipulations to avoid the core of responsibility in it. Own that when you choose to drink, you more often than not choose to be drunk to escape yourself and in the process you reak havoc on the lives of people around you. That is true for every single human being. You are completely in control over what you choose to do and completely at fault
beautifulmind546 9 months ago
@beautifulmind546 but i not only dont drink to excess, i dont drink at all. Far from avoiding my responsibility, i dedicated myself to not drinking again. Drinking to escape is at the core of why I drank again and again, Not taking the first drink is the key to not letting alcohol take control of my life again. Any hope of recovery hinges totally on not taking the first drink and trying every day to do the next right thing. I am totally responsible for every thing I ever did.who said i wasnt?
rogerc99 9 months ago
The idea that alcoholism is a disease has always been a political and moral notion with no scientific basis. It was first promoted in the U.S. around 1785 as an erroneous physiological theory (Levine, 1978), and later became a theme of the temperance movement (Gusfield, 1963). It was revived by AA in the 1930s, which derived its views from an amalgam of religious ideas, personal experiences, anecdotal observations, and the unsubstantiated theories of a contemporary physician (Robinson, 1979)...
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
Evet,
Kishline got drunk, drove, and killed two people AFTER she left moderation management and committed herself to AA. Get your facts straight. The disease model, AA, and abstinence obsession destroys more lives in this country than harm reduction. Telling someone they are powerless over alcohol and will always drink to excess once they start is a sure way of helping them succeed if they happen to drink again.right. Look what happened to Audrey Kishline.
Star16 2 years ago
@Star16 The FACTS are that she began AA . however, she was NOT abstinent obivously- something that MR Peele advocated when he lent his support to Moderate Management... After that terrible accident Mr Peele was NOT supportive of Audrey at all, although he advocates non=abstinence, and denouces alcoholism as a disease, and AA as not effective. So what position DID he advocate? He bailed on her......
evet45 2 years ago
@Star16 Further more Star16, if Audrey had remained abstinent, as AA advocates, we would not be having this debate... Audrey went back to MM, it's so obvious. There is NO such thing as Harm Reduction , except , abstinence, zero tolerance, otherwise that accident might not have happened. You are powerless over alcohol, no one has control of how it metabolizes in your body. No one has control over how an apple metabolizes, either, but it doesn't cause impaired judgement, or fatal accidents, .
evet45 2 years ago
@Star16 Inconclusion Star16, Not ALL people who leave AA and continue alcohol consumption have a control problem, not ALL who are in MM and drink have it under control.. It's the Unpredictible Probability of remaining moderate or not have impaired judgement or causing physical harm to one's self so those are the real questions, No? AA says stop now and forever, for a damn good reason, because NO ONE can predict how it will affect , eventually.
Like cigarettes,
evet45 2 years ago
How do u know
there is no information / honesty about this topic in the US
andreasheinz 2 years ago
@Star16 I find your statements funny. If an alcoholic drinks and they drink in excess and die how is that AA's problem. If anyone who has a problem with using any in excess there are going to be consequences. SO if the alcoholic doesn't drink at all and never drinks alcohol again where is the problem? SO if they know when they drink that problems are going to arise how is that a bad thing?
Godlyguitarman 1 year ago
@Star16 Also I see you and I share taste in movies....so I will use a line from a movie to prove a point. "Get busy living or get busy dying" So in AA if you are working on yourself to stop getting high or drunk and working on the issues you have in life don't you think that is getting busy living. Vers getting drunk and high not dealing with anything. What do you think?
Godlyguitarman 1 year ago
@Godlyguitarman These are not my posts. You and the person you are arguing with do NOT share the same taste in movies. Someone I know was using my account to post here and I'm not really sure what you and him are arguing about.
Star16 1 year ago
@Star16 Then I am sorry for the comments. ALSO that was from Shawshank......
Godlyguitarman 1 year ago
Audrey Kishline! Read her story, then make decision on this guy.
evet45 2 years ago
evet45! Read some of the muppet's comments, then make your decision on HER, folks.
godlessweasel 2 years ago
@evet45 Everyone that has been disagree with us about the whole disease issues here is how the American Heritage defines it:A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.
A condition or tendency, as of society, regarded as abnormal and harmful.
I think we do not need to say anymore.
Godlyguitarman 2 years ago
GGM: Starting with Jellnick, to Cardwell Nuckols, etc.
evet45 2 years ago
@Godlyguitarman
No you've said quite enough Gerald...
*face palm*
Hammersley1967 1 year ago
TheFragile89 nailed it!
paolung 2 years ago 2
Alcoholism is not a disease. Nor is addiction. Uncontrollable habits are not what biological diseases are, and don't fit the definition. They are metabolic habits used to suppress feelings/trauma etc. Onie, below is not informed--with respect for his beliefs. Thank you. Dual-diagnosed counselor, biomedical engineer. MD
dillardmichael 2 years ago 2
A pathological condition of a part, organ, or system of an organism resulting from various causes, such as infection, genetic defect, or environmental stress, and characterized by an identifiable group of signs or symptoms.
A condition or tendency, as of society, regarded as abnormal and harmful
Godlyguitarman 2 years ago
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He he - I realy do love when single people arguement against common knowledge! Ask this dude if he knows more about alcoholism than WHO? Or even better.... what other deseases are not realy a desease??? I am sure many people would be glad to get the good news, that they are not sick, but healthy as a newborn child...
What a dude...
Onie73 3 years ago
"He he - I realy do love when single people arguement against common knowledge! Ask this dude if he knows more about alcoholism than WHO? Or even better.... what other deseases are not realy a desease??? I am sure many people would be glad to get the good news, that they are not sick, but healthy as a newborn child..."
Let me ask you...
On what grounds do you define alcoholism as a physiopathological disease?
What are your diagnostic criteria?
Hammersley1967 2 years ago
this is what i always say when people call it a disease.
ppp9922 3 years ago
Are you coming on to me? Is that why you want me to visit you? Sorry, I don't swing that way, I'm on the blue team, but I understand that some people are on the pink team and that's OK with me. My cousin was like that too. He used to try to hide it, but everone knew anyway so you might as well just let everyone know and stop feeling guilty about it.
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
Thanks for the dose of sanity, Stanton.......
BeauJames59 3 years ago
Who care's what the hell you think!
I don't who the hell did you ever get sober
you'll as powerless over a drunk as a drunk is over alcohol, does your book sell?
to who? who wants it? where are they 20 years don the road?
Brough1111 3 years ago
I'm sorry. What the fuck dude? Did you type this shit when you were intoxicated? So many typos.
GFrank83 3 years ago
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I really get turned on by this guy. I turn off the sound and just watch his mouth. He has a great mouth!
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
It would be interesting to read reasoned opposing arguments, rather than criticisms of the man's decor and dress sense!
It is well-known that excessive drinking causes all sorts of grave medical consequences, including cirrhosis of the liver, which my own brother died of, but that is a disease in its own right, not the disease of alcoholism. I don't think anyone is seeking to minimise the gravity of the problem here.
gonnamakit 3 years ago 3
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The American Medical Association describes alcoholism as "a primary cronic disease"
quickcap 4 years ago
And your point is?
I hope it's not "therefore alcoholism is a disease". That would be really, really embarrassing...
Hammersley1967 3 years ago 4
They have simply folded. They give up on people who refuse to take personal responsibility for their lives. This is no more a disease than stabbing yourself in the face with a fork. Both are a deliberate series of decisions.
Just listen to a "war story" and you will see they made lots of deliberate decisions.
isegoria1 3 years ago 8
This was written buy NCAAD (AA FRONT GROUP) after several years of beating AMA to death. Also this is the same AMA that thinks you should not have affordable or state sanctioned heath care like all of the other 1st world countries. Because of groups like the AMA Cuba's health care system is better than ours.
isegoria1 3 years ago 3
Mr. Isegoria. Are you from Cuba? You look like you might be from some 3rd world country. Are you going to go back there for the health care? If you do, could you persuade Dr Peele to go with you? I like to watch his mouth. I turn down the sound and just watch his mouth. Yours is good too, but his is better because I don't think he has any teeth. If you take him back to Cuba with you maybe he can get some teeth.
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
Cuba? No, but they do have far better health care than the US. So fuck you and your 3rd world comment. Like I said you are a piece of shit that is why I have blocked you. Only a moron would allow you to continue to comment like you do. I do invite you fucker to come and say some of that shit to my face - My address is easy to find - Bring it!
isegoria1 3 years ago 3
Sorry if I hurt your feelings. I did not mean to offend you, but you said you were an expert on Cuba and I thought you might be from there. You do look like a Cuban or a Middle East person with your big moustach and swarthy complextion. Actually you are quite handsome in a rustic sort of way, but I am not gay so just because I said that, please don't think I'm interested in your proposal to get together.
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
You are dumb ass with nothing but baseless bullshit. Like always you are wrong on all counts
isegoria1 3 years ago 2
hey sordid, dont be sorry if you hurt the cubans feelings. why be sorry, when you can be bright. it really is funny when one has to resort to foul language. oh and insegoria i am nasty but not nasty enough to block someone but hey put up walls if you want. that's sort of like communism right? btw ever seen me hoop? that's straight nasty. great stach mang
mattodcia 3 years ago
Cuban? Shows your lack of intelligence in all possible ways. Just how the hell do you justify continuing to punish those around you by living?
You are blocked because you are INCAPABLE of stringing together a decent response based on anything but adhom attacks which shows you still have no clue what you are dealing with.
Communism?
NAZI
isegoria1 3 years ago
dude, relax. i punish people all day down low on the block.
you are musty
mattodcia 3 years ago
If alcholism isn't a disease, perhaps this guy should use his fancy degrees to create a wonder drug. No matter what I post, will be simply disregarded and classifies as (fill in the blank). I'd have love to ask this jokers opinion about the "disease" if he was at my family gathering. Well, he probably wouldn't have made it out alive. Say what you will about anything doc. It's your world pal, I'm just walking through it. Envy? Perhaps, but you could tell that a mile away in your ivory tower.
mattodcia 4 years ago
I don't think he resides in an Ivory Tower. Check out the ancient electrical service, the suspenders and Salvation Army garb.
quickcap 4 years ago
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How about the cheap slipcover on the couch. Straight out of K-Marts bargain bin.
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
You can't create a wonder drug for a lack of personal responsibility.
isegoria1 3 years ago 4
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and you can't pick your genes
mattodcia 3 years ago
The notion that this is genetic is nothing more than pseudoscience. It comes down to your decisions good or bad.
isegoria1 3 years ago 3
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look, obviously you know all the answers and obviously all the decisions made by you are probably right. when is your book coming out? i'd love an autographed copy
mattodcia 3 years ago
I never claimed to have all the answers, but I do find it funny the closer I get right on target the more it is obvious that I have hit a nerve.
I never once claimed holier than thou, that is the job of AA and other 12 step programs. Actually the book will be released in the spring of 2009.
Seeing that you already have all the answers you have no place to grow. Good luck with your stagnant nastiness.
isegoria1 3 years ago 2
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isegoria - will you be my sponsor?
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
Sponsors are for the brain dead are you brain dead?
isegoria1 3 years ago 2
sorry, Mr isegoria, I apologize and I'm sorry to bother you. No, I'm not brain dead yet.
S0RDIDTRUTH 3 years ago
I saw your bullshit you posted in my vlogs and surprise - You are brain dead. You are a POS for a human and a sad waste of air. Not sure why you have to show us all how much of an asshole you really are. You are a sad pathetic person stuck in their own trap. Has it occurred to you no one wants your deluded version of the world?
FUCK OFF
isegoria1 3 years ago 2
There is no wonder drug for irresponsibility. If they make that one then they can get started on one for stupid and then I wont have to waste time responding to inane posts like yours.
I never claimed to have all the answers but it appears you have. If you require an argument from authority then sadly you may die in your choices.
It takes thousands of choices to make an addiction, it only takes one to undo it.
Are you really powerless over an inanimate object?
isegoria1 3 years ago 4
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dude, stagnant nastiness is the best compliment i have ever gotten. probably the most accurate too. we agree to disagree. obviously if i am in aa i answered your last question dummy but you have self control, i don't and go to meetings. hit me up with that pre release. i am an editor
mattodcia 3 years ago
oh and like i said 8 months ago no matter what i write it will simply be disregarded and well, fill in the blank. but what do i know, today i am controlling my powerlessness over inanimate objects. the internet is amazing.
mattodcia 3 years ago