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  • USA,CANADA,GREAT BRITAIN,AUSTRALIA,NEW ZEALAND,WAKE UP,BECOME ONE. UNITED STATES OF USA,GB,CAN,AUS,NZ.AMERICAN FLAG WITH UNION JACK IN THE CORNER,AND MAPLE LEAF IN THE MIDDLE!SIMPLE!I F I CAN THINK OF THIS,WHY CAN'T SO CALLED "INTELLIGENT" POLITICIANS THINK LIKE THAT?OUR PAPER CURRENCY WOULD HAVE ALL THE INDIVIDUAL FLAGS ON IT!

  • How is RN the best in the world when we don't even have an independant strike force thanks to Cameron's cuts (selling our Harriers to the US for less than theyr'e worth, on top of that, we lost some massive experience when the Fleet Air Arm had their Harriers removed so our pilots can't even fly, and by the time we get our new carriers that experienced will be lost and we will be reliant on the yanks to teach us the skills we taught them in the 1st place!

  • @Shagnarsty We have ordered new training jets bringing our number to over 100 trainng jets... so they can fly!!!

  • CANCELLED due to 500 rubberroom cheques in a drought area per day. Who needs rubber sheets in the ultra nuked to glass desert?

    Have to pawn you to raise funds for a backpay cheque or milllion

  • Get the British in to Mexico! MEXICAN GOVERNMENT,WAKE UP!

  • Gay flag in 1:39??

    By the way. The first navy in the world was the Spanish one. Isn't the best, but it was the first

  • @joseinasio HA HA . Oh dear me, you need to read more history. Spain...the first navy. !!!!

  • It's about time Mexico asked for the assistance of the Royal Navy and British Army to snuff out the drug barons contaminating Mexican life...........the Americans are USELESS!

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  • and the royal navy has better guns and exploseives

  • with out britan the usa would not have a navy thay just took advantage of us and made a bigger one than the original and in ww2 britain had the biggest in the world!!!!!!!

  • @SuperJAmEzEr Actually the Brits didnt create are Navy. It was the congress of the US. We're the ones that created the Navy to be big. Not the British

  • Naw the US Navy is the best Navy in the world. The US Navy has the biggest tonnage in the world. The US Navy is the size of the Top 10 greatest Navy in world combined.

  • @invizz0ninja all the gear but no idea

  • @rockingthatLP huh? say that again

  • @invizz0ninja If it came to a total war between the EU and the USA, the EU would roll over the entire nothern continent in a year!

  • @FieldMarshalRommel23 Britain wouldn't want to go to war with the US, I would defent the USA and attack the EU- because the EU has done nothing but make the UK weak!

  • @FieldMarshalRommel23 Ya, ok. We have ships all over the world. We have better technology advanced than any other navy in the world. We bring in better ships, bigger, longer, and dangerous. Theres nothing that can defeat the Navy. Look back at the UK's Navy back in Revolutionary War. They had a huge Navy and the US and the French still manage to stop them. And we didnt have a lot of ships. Are tactics was to raid British ships and after that, we use them. You cant mess with that

  • @invizz0ninja The us was a backwatter at the time, they didn't really care, they were more focused on other wars. The EU could muster over 100 million soldiers, let alone it's collonies and allies! Nearlly all tech in the world was invented by Europeans!

  • @FieldMarshalRommel23 well Canada would fight for the UK because Queen Elizabeth II is still head of state and it is apart of the British Commonwealth!

  • @nrjelley Most countires would fight for the UK, US, Canada, Australia, EU (not a country though, thankfully) and many other smaller nations!!

  • @MrXray2011 If the EU wanted too, we could muster a much bigger and better army, navy, airforce, spec ops force etc. and you all know it. The EU is 200 trillion richer than the then the US!

  • @FieldMarshalRommel23 Yes... the EU is richer and will be more technologically advanced, in this aspect I fully support the EU, a United States of Europe... never. The UK should stay in the EU as long as we can do, effectivly, what we like with our money, our prisoners, terrorists that we don't want etc. The EU should have no say over British Laws, any policy etc. It should unite, Under British military command, in times of military crisis and we should unite as a

  • @MrXray2011 force that would be unbeatable. Much of this thanks to the UK's technological advantage over most other military hardware in the World. Examples are the Type 45, the Trafalgar/ Astute Class, Challenger 2 etc. Our future capability is even more promising, Type 26 Frigate, QE Class, new SSBN's, UXV Combatant new light tanks etc. The EU could be great but at the moment it is being driven towards a large cliff by a President that looks, and acts like a Rat...

  • @MrXray2011 ...which is ironic as he is French. The UK should have more of a say in the EU, we should be much more assertive, which thanks to Cameron we can now be more assertive, in stark contrast Labour want us in bed with Germany and France within 10 years!!! It's a shame that the EU will destroy itself within a few years, with the right governing Europe could, once again rule the World but without the UK this is not possible.

    To be honest I like the idea of re-uniting the old...

  • @MrXray2011 'British Empire' into a 'United States' where no country, including the UK, had influence over the other countries within the new 'union.' Think about it... UK, India, Australia and Canada. That would work out far better than the EU. Germany hasn't invaded or been at war with France for the best part of 80 years... if History is correct they will be soon ;) Nah they won't but we should united with some of the former colonies!!!

    God Save the Queen

    RULE BRITANNIA!!!

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  • nice soundtrack suits the moment

  • I retracted my statements because it's a endless argument because of patriotism.Anyways we all know the French have the best Navy anyways lol.I think i would rather argue about something more important.

  • @S0ULGL0W ..cont...how it will perform as a naval a/c, only time will tell. Perhaps they should stick with the F18.

  • I would like to get off the subject though.What are your thoughts on the F-35?

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  • Yeah best in the world..of the 1700's.

  • @B3nkr3w I think you'll find that every British service is trained to a better standard than the America.

  • @BasilFawlty4444 How so?

  • @B3nkr3w Google it.

  • @BasilFawlty4444 For instance, the Royal Marines have the longest basic training course in the world.

  • @B3nkr3w best in the world from the Golden Age of Queen Elizabeth I up until the end of WWII when the Empire collapsed. Now our economy has gone to shit and we dont have as many ships. We still have the best trained most prefessional servicemen in the world though!

  • jajaja la exclavitud ene stados unidos por parte del reino unido fue de las mas crueles.

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  • Im sorry, but I completely disagree with the title of this video. Please no offensive comments back.

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  • I would take one 4 man SAS team over the entire Delta Force!!

    The US forces are a joke! Your navy is only so big because it takes 14 guys to do the same job of one man in the Royal Navy!!

  • @jonmaris1 It takes all britsh to match up to chuck norris but even still they could not defeat him. Anyway everything you said was wrong. Its more like 8 SAS for 1 marine. Im sayng this and Im not even from US, but instead from Australia.

  • @eric669cp3 hmm im not entirely sure where you thought of this but guess what, the SAS are the most elite and highly trained special forces in the world. and 8 sas for 1 marine, wow you are dumb. so stop bitching about british

  • god bless every heart of oak !

  • OH YEAH !!! We are just the greatest

  • i love this song. salute to england from your american cousins. we got ur backs. and fuck the haters that say "oh america is better because we have a bigger navy," there is no comparison. we are allies thats all that matters. england's navy is very capable and does its job and does it well.

    again cheers dudes! gonna be studying abroad in england soon

  • US, Russian and French navies are far better than British Navy. British subs always break down.

  • @Karthagus well to be honest i think its quite amazing that britain even though they still have as small navy still manage to project there power and infulence around the world which other nations that are bigger still cant manage to do that. That is why it is at the top spot in my opinion.

  • @Curt1233brit yes you're right in some way, perhaps the fact of having three aircraft carriers and LHDs can place the UK in such a good position, but there are some others facts that count. I mean the availability of some units that are supposed to be ready for combat but they are actually under repair. British subs are not as reliable as US, French or Russian ones (yes, Russia has had big problems with some of its submarines, but it is a country with more than 60, so it does has to have problem

  • @Curt1233brit i agree we all work well together and yes it is a small navy R N compared to how it used to be but technology has improved so size doesn't matter its the capability that counts

  • @Karthagus Budget cuts and David Cameron has turn R N in coast defence force

  • @Karthagus Totally agree. someone with with a brain (not being carcastic)

  • look at the size of the uk. ok now look at the size of the us. the size is all relative, in actual fact in ratio terms we probably have a navy the same size as the united states, so roughly for every 1000 people we have 1 person in the navy in the uk. whereas in the us it's 1 for every 920 people. so only <100 difference between us. quantity does not mean quality by any means anyway, and we all know that.

  • I am a LET in the RN and we are not the best, we have the best training with out a showdow of a doubt but the yanks have the better tech and man power in fact we are prob the fourth best next to the rus and the french,

  • no disrespect Royal navy is the best in the world. Is these a joke. The UK government is reduce military fund so how in the world Royal can be number 1. At pass yes but no these modern time. Wrong advert man.

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  • my last comment, i was not slating the US, they have military power, but THEMACHINE completely missed my point.. he claimed that we got everything from the US in regards to weapons, not the case at all, there are something that the UN council may share like, UK letting US in to our fly zones to fill up and use flight paths in to asia. but we dont buy weapons off US lol.. britiain does share most of the stuff with the EU.

  • Royal Navy or British Army?

  • USA and britiain are allies.. we cant do without them as much as they cant do without us, britiain is the leader of cutting edge military weapons and elite ground power, no country can match britian for urban warfare... britain is small and elite!!

    USA has the power in the air and see, not the largest infantry, but has power in numbers, and uses british intelligence to the gate way of europe. we have a great trading relationship when it comes to weapons, respect to them all!

  • Remember kids, war isn't like Call Of Duty.

    -It's reality, no points, no respawns. These people put their lives on the line for our country. That my friends deserves applaud.

  • According to my opinion the navy from Albania is far better.

  • @SMOKEMYTOOL

    It's on wikipedia, it's a fact. You're basing stuff off assumption. I based that off a fact.

  • @MRJAF0

    We aren't in ruins, we are far from that. You have no idea what ruins is.

  • Imma put it simple THE RN SUCKS ASS..

    Any US armed forces could literally make the whole royal armed forces lick they own ass. The Marines there are scrawny and useless. They got kicked out of afganistan. USMC Hoorahh!!

  • @jkallik do what you do best and kill your own people, the Royal Marines are have more history than America as a whole nation

  • @jkallik lets clear something up. USMC is full of rednecks, blacks and hispanics. the poorest of the poor, dieing to protect fat ignorant people with no healthcare. We are proud of our history of ending slavery and patrolling the caribean, while you grandma picked cotton

  • @cadnewham Im Black And What Slavery Did You Stop, I Dont Remember My Great Grandpa Sayin Shit About The RN Saving His Ass From Slavery.And Im Not Poor My Family Owns Farmland, Alot Of It , I Aint Come For No Poor Family Im 17 And My Whole Family (me,my mom,my uncle,and my cousin) are grossing about 4.2 million all together I Just Wanted To Serve My Proud Country

    And Yess We Still Shit On The RN, Marines Alone Shit On The RN, Cuz Yall Sum Fag Racist Bitches...

  • @jkallik siera leone's capital freetown was created from slaves captured and freed by the RN, while you redneck ancestors were still having your folks polishing boots. Google it and learn something. And my statement is the USMC is poor ethnic protecting rich white people. PS i live in texas i see it first hand

  • @cadnewham Your other comment was very racist, just letting you know.

  • @eric669cp3 which one? do you know what racism means? Search its definition and tell me that I'm racist

  • @jkallik Best comment on this vid

  • why is it all americans think its size that counts the Royal Navy as been round for years and will be round alot more years we upgraded all our ships Royal Navy ,we aint big whoppie do but we fight with honor and for our countrie

  • @TheBrazyCastard Size does count

  • @ScottishCaledonian not really, royal navy is the best in the world and would fuck up bigger navys. if you did your homework you would know this

  • @british123able Bullshit dude...RN is a littoral power, the US navy is a global power .No matter how good you are David against Goliath won't work. .The US Navy has 6 fleets each more powerful than the whole RN ..LOL

    60 nuclear attack submarines of the US Navy alone would sink the RN within hours..

  • @duplex2411 you seen the film 300? thats my stance! we are worth more than you guys. thats not up for debate its a fact. (a fact of war) you would win due to more numbers thats all. we are way more trained/elite. one sas is probably worth 200 average american soldiers. we the best navy,best trained soldiers,best tanks,best marines,best intelligence. YOU GET THE PICTURE YET? ITS BETTER TO BE THE BEST THAN BE THE BIGGEST!!! in short: its better to be a spartan!

  • @TheBrazyCastard Not if you talk like that you don't.....

  • @TheBrazyCastard

    11 aircraft carriers, nuff said...

  • @TheBrazyCastard cause they got the biggest of everything but looking at history its very few countries who fought n won many times against overwhelming odds for this reason i rate Britain n Russia the two top militaries in the world the battle of Britain n the battle of stalingrad the two most decivive battles that turned the course of history n saved us all from facism americans did well in the pacific can't take that away from them But always had numbers n fire power on their side

  • @TheBrazyCastard lol they fight for there lives not country when it comes to war

  • @TheBrazyCastard You said Americans think size makes it better, but YOU say its how long its been around.... get over yourself. Greetings from Australia.

  • Haha leedaomillz you keep on telling yourself that. You fucking fairy!

  • Too bad the USN is far better.

  • @leedaomillz Bigger, not better. And of course the RN doesn't shoot down airliners

  • @aspiringdrummer17

    The us navy is larger than the next 13 navies combined. We have the best technology and the best trained crews. The us navy is way way better than the RN can imagine. Face it we rule the seas.

  • @leedaomillz Well derr, with all that money, what the hell do you expect? I wish Americans would stop pointing out the bleeding obvious!! However, if you have any evidence to support your claim that American crews are better trained, I'd like to see it. All I can say is; enjoy it while it lasts because last it will not. The future's looking yellow, five foot tall and Communist

  • @aspiringdrummer17

    Anything that happens to us will happen to you. Look at the economy in Europe, it's worse than ours. And per capita England has far more debt than us. But at the end of the day we're allies so there is no need to be fighting. Good day.

  • @leedaomillz You're damn right. I'd much rather have the US as no.1 than the bloody Chinese any day of the week and I don't mean to sound childish but you started it with your comment :P

  • @aspiringdrummer17

    It's nothing personal honestly, at one time England had the best navy but over time someone else gets better. It happens all the time.

  • @leedaomillz So true. Kinda makes you wonder who'll be the next superpower after the US and then China have had their lot. Scary times

  • @aspiringdrummer17

    I couldn't really see any country at this time, Maybe in the next 200-300 years or sooner who knows.

  • @JAFOJAXFL34 "We have more guns in America now than people good luck." Well thats good coz guns cant fire them selfs.

  • If President George W. Bush wanted to convince the Iraqis and all Arabs and Muslims of the world that the United States did not intend them to despise and humiliate them, then after the outbreak of the scandal at Abu Ghraib would start from the release of Secretary of Defense and military commanders from the commandant of the prison to the regional commander. But the president chose to pretend he is OK.

  • second best in the world.

  • @survivingmarinecorps Why bring the USN into it?

  • @survivingmarinecorps you misspelled first

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  • that shit about slavery at the start was SO unecessary

  • @TalonMercenary On the contrarty, it was a good intro to the RN.

  • Well brits don't have ICBM's so its irrelevant how many of these boats you tea drinking clowns build. You ARE NOT A SUPERPOWER ANYMORE nor can you tell americans, chinese or the russians what to do. Just accept it and move on retards.

  • @BENNYSIEGEL90 oh dear, it seems like someone left their tampon in too long...

  • @BENNYSIEGEL90 Actually we do have ICBMs we use Trident nuclear missiles just the same as the US on board our Vanguard Class submarines. After I e-mailed the Ministry of Defense regarding how we use our Vanguard Class it turns out that we always have at least 3 nuclear armed submarines on standby in strategic locations around the globe. Before you start bashing other countries why don't you do your research before you attempt to make an argument.

  • @BENNYSIEGEL90 Speaking as an ex RN submariner, you don't know a lot about the subject.

  • @BENNYSIEGEL90 All you yanks are so stereotypical. We're not 'tea drinking clowns', I'm British, I drink coffee, just like most Americans, and so do most of us. Honestly it's like us saying 'you burger eating pigs'. And we do have ICBM's, so get your facts right before you try and have an argument with someone from an allied country!

  • @tylerrossi46 WE ARE SO STEREOTYPICAL? Your thinking of yourselfs....

  • @BENNYSIEGEL90 And, we have the most advanced warship in the world, the Type 45 Destroyer, and the most advanced submarine in the world, the Astute Class Submarine.

  • @tylerrossi46 Are you basically saying British navy is better, because im confused.

  • @JAFOJAXFL34 200 million? dont you mean 1.6 million

  • @JAF0FL Oh not this again...They were caught armed where they should not have been and had orders not to resist arrest from MOD level. And the SAS troops were caught because they had been compromised.

  • why are you people talking about england vs america? we're allies...

  • @staple47 were related

  • @staple47  Please don't give them a rifle. It would be like handing a monkey a machine gun.

  • @staple47 You are right my friend as so is Canada Aussie kiwi etc

  • @JAFOJAXFL34 A nuke can reduce numbers quickly and effectively

  • @JAFOJAXFL34 Yeah the game has changed from the 1800s but its funny to say 1 - 0 :)

  • Arent we (Brits) planning on buying the rights to build the F35 like the British Chinook? ps ours is better look at battles won/lost and on experience, use yanks ever occupied London :P I think not

  • The point is surely why argue who is better? We are supposed to be allies. Our enemies are not each other but muslims.

  • The US navy is bigger but it is not better. Bigger is not always better.

  • @SIMBER9 The World's largest fleet of Aircraft Carriers all of which dwarf yours and can deploy far superior aircraft. You have 11 submarines we have 73 with 3 more under construction. Yeah bigger isn't always better, but first of all lets not get into any quality of sailors shit, both countries only use the best for the big jobs, second our ships are built with virtually the same materials, third if your talking bigger, the US Navy is too big.

  • anybody who thinks that the royal navy is the best in the world is a true dumbass. look up the us navy and tell me who better lol The us navy is better

  • it not how mutch you have it how you use it and that is where the us is a fail

    the uk is just so cool

  • it not how mutch you have it how you use it and that is where the us is a fail

  • yeah britain!

  • @JAFOFLORIDA35 you watch to many films mate

  • The easy way to determine which military is best is to just look at the last time the US and the UK was at war with each other.

  • @mkopp88 thats never happend, not 1 vs 1... you can look at when the Dutch, French and the British Farmers fought Britain... thats pretty much the war of independence.. 3 vs 1..

  • @lightningwallis I guess you don't know your history very well and don't get the joke. Look up the war of 1812

  • @mkopp88 thats just dumb bro lol idiot

  • FUCK THE YANKEES!! LONG LIVE THE CONFEDERACY.. FUCKING YANK BASTARDS.. HOPE UZ GO BANKRUPT, THEN UZ CAN FIGHT CHINA ON YOUR OWN.

  • @86ramc First of all, who the hell are you? And second of all, I didnt know that your nation had people that are less educated than people here in the US.

  • Um i have to say that the royal navy gets about 60$% of there planes from the U.S. and your sub nukes are all from the U.S.

  • @DeadlyToyGaming We dont use any aircraft from the US? Where did from lol? Fail... The closest thing would be the sea king which is a license built obviosuly more advanced version. (Before you ask why would it be better, simple answer, why would we need to license build it if it were already good enough?) And before you say the harrier, the harrier is a british aircraft, and we use the GR9 which is better than the american AV8B. The AV8B was 50:50 british american.. and we chose the GR9...

  • @PlaneAU American AV8B is far superior to British Harriers. the old British system was replaced by the Hughes APG-65 pulse-doppler multi-mode radar, which, along with the increase in the number of hardpoints, enhanced the AV-8B's air-to-air capability. The AV-8B Plus can also carry the Harpoon, AIM-120 AMRAAM and AGM-65 Maverick missiles..All these capabilities which British Harriers didnt have.

  • @barracuda7018 i don't think you understant the the latest british harriers (before they were decomissioned) were derived from AV8Bs. And AV8Bs were a joined effort between BAE and McDonnell Douglas. Anyway, they are derived from AV8Bs, why would they be any worse? Go onto wikipedia, the british harriers have a slight edge on performance over the AV8B anyway.

  • @PlaneAU No mate.. The BAE joined the program later after the AV-8B was extensively redesigned by McDonnell Douglas. It has a redesigned fuselage, a new wing, an elevated cockpit and other structural and aerodynamic refinements and scores of new electronics and radars plus A2A missiles which gave the aircraft BVR capability .The Brits were much impressed with the American version..

  • @barracuda7018 that's all very good and probably true but what has that got to do with the sea harrier GR9 dervived from the AV8B being better?

  • @DeadlyToyGaming where do you get your infomation from Lol

  • @DeadlyToyGaming Sorry to upset you but the RN warheads (the nuke bit) are British. The missiles or delivery vehicles are the American bit. American aircraft.? Which American aircraft do we get. We may be getting f35 soon, when you over there can make it work, but at present we don't get any.

  • @DeadlyToyGaming i think your name says it all bro you play games like cod and all of a sudden your an expert on military affairs i can tell you now mate that Britain has its own very high stock pile of nuclear warheads we can arm our own subs mate and 60 % of planes are from the USA ????? i do believe the Euro Fighter typhoon is German and British made and out tornadoes are British made yeah we are having the F35 when you guys can actually make it combat worthy don't talk what you don't know..

  • You mean we still have a navy?

  • exclavizadores del mundo! hijos de putaaaa

  • britanicos de mierda exclavizadores de la humanidad,los ingleses nos quisieron invadir en 1806 y 1807 y no pudieron juajuajua

  • @Gianmozilla Yeh! we decide that you wern't worth the effort.

  • @oIReWiiNDz actualy we did it twice. but anyway it was smart to do that because casualties on japans and americas side would have been enormous

  • You americans make me laugh, throughout history the royal navy was the best, ok so now maybe we might not be able to match up againt the us, russia or china size but we know how to fight a naval battle. what i dont undersatnd is why you americans come on here and slag us off, dont forget how your country was formed, if it was not for us brits there would be no america! Remember the 13 stripes on your flag represent the 13 original bristish colonise. you cant hide from the truth!!

  • @starleto ok no you clearly dont know american history. the brits ruled it but the there were huge amounts of germans and scandanavians and also many other countries. america was a mutt. and the bris didnt discover america so people would have come anyways with out britian. most americans arnt british and also you cant hide from the truth that you got your ass handed to you by a bunch of farmers. also the US has the best navy in the world so this video is pointless in saying "best navy in world"

  • @chimichanga1254 Fuk off America Lost Vietnam , Name One War that britain hasnt Lost?

  • @AsteroidTV Falklands off the top of my head.

  • @PlaneAU Britain Didnt Lose The Falklands War.. We Crushed Them

  • @AsteroidTV lol i know, but you wrote name a war that britain 'hasn't lost'.

  • @PlaneAU Ohhh , I Ment that they havnt won.

  • @chimichanga1254 sorry which country did the US fight against to gain independance? oh yes thats right, Britain? of course there were other europeans countries but at the same time you can say that a particular country has many different ethnic groups but they all come under that same nationaity right? just like america was back then when they fought the war of independance!! most of the east cost of america are named after places in britain and they speak our language to, GB influenced u alot

  • @oIReWiiNDz It was a necessary sacrifice. The needs of the few outweigh the needs of the many.

  • @oIReWiiNDz Not trying to be an American supporter here. (I'm Aussie) but could you imagine the casualties on both sides if the allies invaded Japan.

  • Britain Rule The Navy And Air force. If UK Had The Same Population As China Or india Then Britain Would Be The Most Powerful Country In the World. Why ? Because Britain Have Well trained Army , Navy And Air Force. In Britain , its Not About Quanity , Its About Quality ( Less People But Well Trained And Stronger people). Britain Fight Every War.

  • @AsteroidTV america has best pilots and navy. you have better trained ground forces but our marines (equivalent of in training to your army) is bigger than your entire military so at that point it doesnt matter who has the best trained troops

  • @chimichanga1254 Actually The Air Force From Britiain And America Are The Same , There Is No Better, The Choice To Which Is Better Is Your Opinion But They Are Both The Same , You Made Reapers , We Made Harriers, You Made Apache We Made Eurofighter. Without A Trained Army Then We Would Be Nothing, Look At Libya ? There Not Trained And There Bad. Same Thing With The Navy There Are Equvilant To Each other , No Better Or No Worse.

  • @chimichanga1254 British Pilot Are Very Good , Battle Of britain , Red Arrows..

  • we have controlled the oceans for hundreds of years. And we always will!

  • ...Your country doesnt have the best navy in the world, the USA does. Even your people think so.

  • @TheDARIEN54321 Everything your special forces are has come from British special forces so tell me how your better? In funding maybe but not in skill. We were fighting wars before your country was even thought of pipe down pip squeek.