If i were one of those guys i wouldve just tried to run away so theyd shoot me instead of having to endure a slower painful death by hanging. Why the hell wouldnt they just execute them by shooting them instead anyway? It's kind of sick to give them a slower and painful death while they watch them squirm and gasp for air until they die.
Bobby Duvall on his greatest moment as an actor (2011): "When we hung Jake Spoon, I had a good moment. It just happened, when we hung him. We hung our best friend for stealing horses - I had a good moment then..." (4:24)
"...I would say, that moment I had in, uh... Lonesome Dove, that just happened (snapping his fingers), was... probably as good as I've had."
I wouldn't have hung Jake, hang Dan and then flog Jake with 50-100 lashes since he really didn't do anything except fall in with the wrong people to ride with and being at the wrong places at the wrong times. The reasons for flogging him vs hanging him, he didn't kill anyone and couldn't stop them but he should have had the sense not to fall in with such people in the first place and some punishment is needed, not death in this case but some punishment. I think a flogging would have fit here.
I love this film and thenovel, one of the best westerns ever made! Look behind Gavan O'Herlihy the actor on the horse at 2:37, Gus says “I ‘ll say this for you son you are the kind of man it’s a pleasure to hand.” You can see the two cables the special effects team used to hang him with.
These people were not stupid, a lot of cattle ranchers back then were not educated, and that's why a lot of cattle barons tried to get an "O" brand, that way the uneducated ranch hands wouldn't put it upside down or sideways and mess it up, it makes sense that they don't know how to spell thief..
Jake Spoon in my opinion was an arrogant SOB for the way he treated Laurie and hookin up with the wrong crowd! No offence but, he deserved to die for what he done!
this show was so intense when I saw it as a kid on TV when it was new. Except for the "snakes in the river scene" (which was scary as hell when I was a kid..I used to swim in rivers and creeks all the time myself) it's truly held up over time! I'm sure "Timeless Masterpiece" is on the back cover somewhere
boy for a texas ranger jake spoon sure is a punk bitch when it comes to dan the man. why didn't jake shoot it out with him and kill the rest of the lot. ??? maybe cause he is as worthless as the whole bunch huh ha ha ha jake spoon.
this hanging scene "isn't how it would have happened" in the real world.
meaning, without a Fall or "Jolt" these guys would have hung there, gagging and chocking, probably for several seconds at least, if not even a minute or so.........
you don't just "Die" right away. you have to be Suffocated in this case. it would be horrible......also Hemorrhaging would have most likely occurred, and Blood often will run from the Nose and mouth. NOT realistic at all.
the knot would be set on the left side of the neck i believe and it would help break the neck around the 3 colar bone or so. the neck would stretch and the head would hang to the right and front as the body would to while swinging from sliding off the horses back. if set the way as in the film, they would have strangled and died slow. i use to think they was wrong to hang spoon. but know after many views of the film, he had deserved it. sorta birds of a feather flock together i guess.
@dude2099USA Many thanks to you, that's a real valid point on reflection further reinforced by the capt'n saying; 'let's go dig 'him' a grave' as oppossed to the others who'd, I suppose in those days be be left hanging in testament to their terrible crimes. Best regards!
@donteventry99 I'm going to tell you something you may not know. It's a movie. Don't take it so hard, some people are slower to pick up on these things than others.
I can't believe Robert Duvall lost the Emmy to James Woods that year.
Duvall had to fight for this scene...originally the director wanted the camera off of Duvall after Jake was hung...Thankfully Duvall got his way & you can see the brilliant result.
I think Robert Urich's finest acting moments were in Lonesome Dove.
Jake Spoon was actually a man who lived at Menard, Texas and is buried in Pioneers Rest Cemetery there. He did go up the trail as a drover several times. "Trail Drivers of Texas" written by George W Saunders and J Marvin Hunter is an excellent read if you are interested in cattle drives. The book is a book of interviews with over two hundred old drovers who went up the trail.
Jake Spoon was actually a man who lived at Menard, Texas and is buried in Pioneers Rest Cemetery there. He did go up the trail as a drover several times. "Trail Drivers of Texas" written by George W Saunders and J Marvin Hunter is an excellent read if you are interested in cattle drives. The book is a book of interviews with over two hundred old drovers who went up the trail.
@JADsGames I had that same kind of feeling really. They knew he was an innocent man, but Jake seemed to be set in paying his dues or giving up or something. I think he felt he didn't deserve to live after the attrocities that the crowd he was kind of pressed into had committed. Hated the fact that Jake wanted no part of those bandits and was kind of forced to stay on for fear for his life and then got hung for nothing really.
@TheGames32 In a way you have to think about the times and what kind of man Jake was. He was a Texas Ranger. As Gus stated "You to your leaving a little slow." He was the kind of man that at one point would have fought them but he slowly let let his flaws take him over. (Always running with the crowd) So in western justice and for those times he was guilty. It would be different today but back them life was still hard and so were the men.
that they did, those bushwhacers. but jake , his only crime was being a low down dirty card playin whore monger, he didn't kill nobody. but he did loose the hoe from lonesome dove to the half breed.
Gus: (You know how it works Jake. You ride with an outlaw, you die like an outlaw. I'm sorry you crossed the line.) Too bad thugs and gang members don't get this kind of treatment these days. I'm afraid it's coming though
When the hangings come back, it would not suprise me that savage criminals will be hanging and robbing the good folks as the bad will out number the good, and they will have no fear of justice.
I made my sis watch part of the movie. She asked why they were hanging them rather than taking them to the law. In fact, THEY were the closest thing to the law within at least a hundred miles.
Notice there wasn't a discussion or any hesitation about what they were going to do?
Duvall fought to have his reaction shot at the moment of Jake's hanging to be left in the movie. He called it one of the most honest acting moments he ever had.
Urich's show of fear is amazing and understated. He was underestimated as an actor.
it's amazing he had to ask for them to put that part in the movie. it's a gem. Duvall has also said that Lonesome Dove is as good as a Shakespeare play. high praise from one of America's greatest actors.
@hitmanchild More like America's heroic epic than Shakespearean play. As well as Moby Dick of course (only Lonesome Dove's better in my opinion - less description of rope!)
Uno de los mejores, sino el mejor film sobre los hitos de la conquista del oeste norteamericano. R:Duval: un grande . tenemos la suerte de tenerlo residiendo en Argentina. Lo entrevistamos en Observatorioia con gran placer.
Uno de los mejores, sino el mejor film sobre los hitos de la conquista del oeste norteamericano. R:Duval: un grande . tenemos la suerte de tenerlo residiendo en Argentina. Lo entrevistamos en Observatorioia con gran placer.
That is hardcore Texas Rangerin' right there boys....hangin one of your buds....but ya had to do it!...I thought Danny Glover was brilliant as deets too...he doesnt get enough credit for this role.
@NonStopRocker Deets just kind of knew everything somehow. Even when his time was done. I agree Deets was a very memorable character and especially for one who had kind of a small side role if you really look at it. Wish you could have gotten to see more of Glover and learned more about his character in Deets in this movie.
So basically they just hang in the harness and play dead? That does sound like fun. I wish I could see how it's actually done. Have you ever been on a movie set where they were doing a hanging scene?
Thanks GonnaRideForever. So you've tried this? Do you work on movies? I supposed they actually have the nooses around their necks, right? How do they make it where you can't see the harnesses?
The ropes are generally real narrow, edited out, background color, and sometimes can be run through the rope which is supposed to be the noose. The rope isn't tight around the neck. The harness sits under the costume. There are differant types but they fit under. My brother and me both act but when I was younger we were out rock climbing at a place where one of the guys works on film sets and he rigged us one up so we had a play on that. It was fun.
How did they make this hanging look so realistic? It was the actors actually hanging there and not dummies. I know they probably had harnesses or something. Does anyone know how movies perform hanging scenes?
It's real simple. It's just harnesses. However there are films which harness up wrong and it looks awfull because of the way the bodies hang. I've tried it once and it is just simple harnesses. 2:40 you can see the lines behind Gavan O'Herlihy (Dan) to hold him
@mcmrfklaw... realistic. get real, i love the show but the hanging scene was piss poor ,when a man gets hung his neck gets broke , theses blokes were strangled to death in 2 seconds . in other words when you look at it , they were dragged of the horse and then they were... ..dead
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One other thing. Gus said you ride with an outlaw, you die with an outlaw. Didn't Gus and company's horse stealing make them outlaws as well? By those standards Gus should be hanging right along with him.
Gus was no saint himself, using card tricks for "pokes" and a horse thief to boot.
He didn't murder. And Pedro Flores (the man they took the horses off) had stolen those horses in the first place. It is also likely that the horses were stolen in the first place. It's a backwards and forwards system. Lorie was a whore but also if she really didn't want to give him a poke, she wouldn't have said yes to the gamble.
It happened. I almost had to hang my friend. I used a cattle prod (hotshot) on him and it got his attenion. Maybe that will keep him in line for awhile.
I've liked Robert Urich since the '70s when I first saw him in the 'Vega$' TV show. When 'Spenser for Hire' was on the air I didn't have much time to watch it but I've gotten into it lately - besides Urich's electric performance in the title role, seeing Boston area locales featured so beautifully helps a lot. So I really looked forward to seeing him in 'Lonesome Dove.' His work in this movie, and especially this scene, is brilliant. Boy, I miss him!
I didn't see the film. In the book, it was made to seem that it was not Jake's fault, in that he could not safely get away from the killers and that he didn't engage in the killing spree. And his so-called friends did not disbelieve him. It seemed odd that the friends who themselves stole horses from Mexico would get all self-righteous and hang Jake.
Jake could have done something. And the horses Call and Gus stole were already stolen and had been many times before that. Plus they didn't kill anyone. Dan (with Jake not making any effort to stop him) killed the men hung them up and burned them. Jake could have done something or atleast ridden away
Well, in my opinion theres too many today that think this way. But if we used the noose today with swiftness for murders, molestations and treason then we would be a more peaceable folk. Sad but Jake crossed the dam line.
Well thats a good opinion, but mine would be that an accompliss to such heinous crimes is just as guilty. Also in my mind the story is almost perfect, I don't think McMurtry meant for the characters to be judged on their lives, or that they were perfect in everybody's mind but that they just were Gus and Call and all the rest and that is his story about them. I really enjoyed the movie and still do regularly.
Agreed. Although I didn't care for Jake, I lost respect for all those involved, especially Gus. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
Ultimately, they were all horse thieves (including Gus and company) and the hypocrisy and lack of loyalty sickens me.
Guess ol' Jake's word that he didn't kill anyone and was trying to ride through the territory amounts to a hill of beans. If that had been a good friend of mine you can bet I'd be interceding on his behalf. Guess I'll stick to Unforgiven.
they stole horses from Mexico and didnt really kill anybody, like jake and those men did for a watch. they did the right thing. they didnt wanna hang him but they had too. its just a lesson about falling in with the bad crowd
Gus and Call had been following a gang of murderers, who had also been burning the people they murdered. Jake was part of that gang, period. He "crossed the line", and had to pay the consequences. Even Jake himself didn't put up much of a fight because he knew he was guilty by association. Lonesome Doves' 6 hours stands equal to Unforgiven's 2 hours.
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Pretty powerful scene...Gus always tried to be hard..but had a very gentle human side...where Call was truly hard as rocks....one of my all time favorite movies.
Hey Non.... I agree...but call had all the emotion that Gus did...he just held it in ....but it leaked out in the final scene...it's posted on youtube....one of the greatest movies ever made!!!
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When I was growing up, my teachers showed the movie "Bryans Song". Every year near Christmas time to encourage brotherly love. I don't think they had a choice, it was just something that happened every single year. I still love that movie and this one should be shown to the next generation, as ugly as some of the scenes are, it teaches the same message...Do the right thing and don't stray from what you know deep down is right.
I listened to a R. Duval interview a few years back. He happened to be in the cutting room while they edited this scene. Initially they had cut out his reaction to the Jake kicking out the horse. He persuaded them to put it back in. That was a real reaction he had at the time. WOW what a scene, actor and movie. Whenever I get the DVD out I end up watching the whole damn thing.
I read that this scene was so powerful for all the actors...but especially for Duval...who tends to actually become the person he is playing.....look close at his expression after Jake is hung.....that is real emotion.......Duval.... ladies and gentleman, maybe America's greatest actor!!
We are inclined to overlook that the guys from Lonesome Dove are a morally conflicted bunch, something Larry McMurtry surely was aware of as he wrote this scene. Just before Gus, Woodrow, and the others left South Texas, they'd made a raid into Mexico to steal horses. They were armed, i.e. prepared to defend their criminality. And they hanged Jake for his close proximity to crimes that were not necessarily much worse than what they'd been prepared to commit across the Rio Grande.
Yeah but the mexican (pedro flores) they were steal the cattle and horses off, wasn't a saint himself. Also Flores had most likely stolen all the horses and cattle in the first place. Anyway they were armed for defence because Pedro Flores would have shot them given half the chance. Jake went along with Dan killing guys for fun. The crimes are completely differant.
No, clearly Jake was afraid to do anything that would put him in harm's way, though we may all agree that he should have acted. Señor Flores' character is quite beside the point.
My point is that the cattle weren't technically flores' so Gus and Call weren't doing wrong by taking them. Jake should have died with honor. He could have atleast left or maybe just shot the lot of them
I.e. means to me what it means to anyone who knows standard English (or standard Latin, perhaps). If you know what it means, I don't understand why you're asking.
"Yes sir, he sure died fine, didn't he?" Another line I like is when the second of the condemned men complains that he should have died ahead of "Little Eddie," the youngest of the bunch. The clip shows different ways in which each man resigns himself to his impending death, progressing from the least to the most noble acceptance of fate. I like the framing of Robert Duvall between swinging corpses as he pays his last respects. Thanks for posting the clip!
I wonder, how did they do the stunt of hanging all these characters without harming the actors? It looks very convincing and I don't believe it's dummys swinging, but I could be wrong.
they had harnesses under their costumes. and the neckers hid it from veiw i think. You can tell it's not dummies cos dan's (gavan o'herlihy) foot moves as roy is hung. between 3:10 and 3:14
If you look carefully at 5:22-5:23, you'll see that there's a lot of slack in the noose around Robert Urich's neck.
Trivia: Martin "Farmer" Burns, a 19th century wrestler, had a neck so strong he could survive a "hangman's drop" -- and often did as a sideshow stunt. I've seen the photographs.
There's a story that when this scene was filmed, it bothered Robert Duvall so much that they had to stop filming. His reaction when Jake kicks the horse was a genuine response. Great scene in one of the finest movies ever made.
This scene is unbearable to watch. It must have been just as unbearable to perform.
Jake Spoon in the novel wasn't as charming or likable as Robert Urich (few performers have been, for that matter). This is an example of how the casting and direction took a scene that was brilliant on the page and made it EVEN BETTER on the screen.
What a fine actor,such a shame Robert Urich is gone now.THe line: "well hell boys,damn sight'd rather be hung by my friends than a bunch of damn strangers-"!!
He was a genuinely decent man. While living in Park City, he went out of his way to be nice to several people I know very well -- people who worked at grocery stores, dry cleaners, and so on.
You know, you'r right. It sums up the difference between the true and the un-true, the good and the not so good. jake wasn't really a BAD GUY, he just never saw the line. Book and FIlm are SUPERB. it's rare that a film so good comes along.
THANKS GonnaRideForever, you are the man!!! Oh, and does anyone know how factual the character of woodrow f call is played out? I have heard Tommy Lee Jones talk about how he admired this character the most of all his movies.
It's from a novel! Not factual at all. I would say that these kinds of characters were found all over the west, so you might say they are fairly accurate types.
Well I was watching an interview after Tommy Lee Jones got finished with COBB, and the interviewer asked why he liked playing Woodrow F. Call so much, and he said that the cattleman, and texas ranger Woodrow Call always intrigued him. Not a character, the real guy from West Texas I believe.
Lot of sad parts of this wonderful mini-series. I always cried for Deets because he was truly a saint, and as such came back to help Pea Eye (that part where his spirit guides Pea Eye would be a good scene to post).
If i were one of those guys i wouldve just tried to run away so theyd shoot me instead of having to endure a slower painful death by hanging. Why the hell wouldnt they just execute them by shooting them instead anyway? It's kind of sick to give them a slower and painful death while they watch them squirm and gasp for air until they die.
TheWaynelds 1 week ago
Bobby Duvall on his greatest moment as an actor (2011): "When we hung Jake Spoon, I had a good moment. It just happened, when we hung him. We hung our best friend for stealing horses - I had a good moment then..." (4:24)
"...I would say, that moment I had in, uh... Lonesome Dove, that just happened (snapping his fingers), was... probably as good as I've had."
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riomikewaters 4 months ago
Robert Urich had the best part (albeit a small one) in the whole show, this scene is my favorite.
bigndum1 5 months ago
I wouldn't have hung Jake, hang Dan and then flog Jake with 50-100 lashes since he really didn't do anything except fall in with the wrong people to ride with and being at the wrong places at the wrong times. The reasons for flogging him vs hanging him, he didn't kill anyone and couldn't stop them but he should have had the sense not to fall in with such people in the first place and some punishment is needed, not death in this case but some punishment. I think a flogging would have fit here.
chrismc410 5 months ago
Thats intense yo!
TheHAAXX 7 months ago
I love this film and thenovel, one of the best westerns ever made! Look behind Gavan O'Herlihy the actor on the horse at 2:37, Gus says “I ‘ll say this for you son you are the kind of man it’s a pleasure to hand.” You can see the two cables the special effects team used to hang him with.
Marla315 7 months ago
These people were not stupid, a lot of cattle ranchers back then were not educated, and that's why a lot of cattle barons tried to get an "O" brand, that way the uneducated ranch hands wouldn't put it upside down or sideways and mess it up, it makes sense that they don't know how to spell thief..
KuribayashiEarpp 7 months ago
Jake Spoon in my opinion was an arrogant SOB for the way he treated Laurie and hookin up with the wrong crowd! No offence but, he deserved to die for what he done!
califgirl101 7 months ago
this show was so intense when I saw it as a kid on TV when it was new. Except for the "snakes in the river scene" (which was scary as hell when I was a kid..I used to swim in rivers and creeks all the time myself) it's truly held up over time! I'm sure "Timeless Masterpiece" is on the back cover somewhere
Justen1980 7 months ago
Man burner and horse theef, should have hung whoever can't spell!!!!
escrtist 8 months ago
it was a fine sunny day to DIE.
911mrchevyman 9 months ago
boy for a texas ranger jake spoon sure is a punk bitch when it comes to dan the man. why didn't jake shoot it out with him and kill the rest of the lot. ??? maybe cause he is as worthless as the whole bunch huh ha ha ha jake spoon.
911mrchevyman 9 months ago
why couldnt they have just let it slide... he didnt do anyting :(
Shananaginns1887 10 months ago
this hanging scene "isn't how it would have happened" in the real world.
meaning, without a Fall or "Jolt" these guys would have hung there, gagging and chocking, probably for several seconds at least, if not even a minute or so.........
you don't just "Die" right away. you have to be Suffocated in this case. it would be horrible......also Hemorrhaging would have most likely occurred, and Blood often will run from the Nose and mouth. NOT realistic at all.
drumdude46 1 year ago
the knot would be set on the left side of the neck i believe and it would help break the neck around the 3 colar bone or so. the neck would stretch and the head would hang to the right and front as the body would to while swinging from sliding off the horses back. if set the way as in the film, they would have strangled and died slow. i use to think they was wrong to hang spoon. but know after many views of the film, he had deserved it. sorta birds of a feather flock together i guess.
glynamus 1 year ago
God that dan was a fucking prick.
8505kam 1 year ago
Who put his boots back on?
mikris50 1 year ago
@mikris50 They didn't. They let him keep his on because he was their friend...I think
dude2099USA 1 year ago
@dude2099USA Many thanks to you, that's a real valid point on reflection further reinforced by the capt'n saying; 'let's go dig 'him' a grave' as oppossed to the others who'd, I suppose in those days be be left hanging in testament to their terrible crimes. Best regards!
mikris50 1 year ago
Gus didn't give a shit, he got Lori out of it.....
Hwy418 1 year ago
I still want to cry even though I have watched this a bunch of times.
maryghump 1 year ago
he didn't give you the pleasure gus, pokin his woman. hang someone who gives a damn gus.
donteventry99 1 year ago
@donteventry99 I'm going to tell you something you may not know. It's a movie. Don't take it so hard, some people are slower to pick up on these things than others.
senselesskiller 1 year ago
laurie wasn't nothing but a whore. following a troop of cocks to montana.
donteventry99 1 year ago
gus just pissed off jake poked his whore better than he did. gus got everything he had coming for hanging jake over a whore.
donteventry99 1 year ago
did you buy those 3 cowboys you shot? did you buy those 2 farmers you burnt? pete you and newt get your ropes! classic line
jmoe1833 1 year ago
Watching Jake hang there while that music played... goddamn if that isn't heart-breaking.
elrustito 1 year ago
SAVE SOME OF THAT FOR ME DAN WHILE I SCRATCH MY BALLS OK DAN.
donteventry99 1 year ago
I can't believe Robert Duvall lost the Emmy to James Woods that year.
Duvall had to fight for this scene...originally the director wanted the camera off of Duvall after Jake was hung...Thankfully Duvall got his way & you can see the brilliant result.
I think Robert Urich's finest acting moments were in Lonesome Dove.
KellyGreen5555 1 year ago
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Jake Spoon was actually a man who lived at Menard, Texas and is buried in Pioneers Rest Cemetery there. He did go up the trail as a drover several times. "Trail Drivers of Texas" written by George W Saunders and J Marvin Hunter is an excellent read if you are interested in cattle drives. The book is a book of interviews with over two hundred old drovers who went up the trail.
TheTexn 1 year ago
Jake Spoon was actually a man who lived at Menard, Texas and is buried in Pioneers Rest Cemetery there. He did go up the trail as a drover several times. "Trail Drivers of Texas" written by George W Saunders and J Marvin Hunter is an excellent read if you are interested in cattle drives. The book is a book of interviews with over two hundred old drovers who went up the trail.
TheTexn 1 year ago
at 4:23 when Jake gets the horse to trot away you can hear a popping sound, wonder if thats his vertebrae seperating in his neck.?
GodsOutlaw1964 1 year ago
What a great movie. Lonesome Dove is the standard which all westerns must be measured.
canoebelue 1 year ago
This scene made me very sad I felt sorry for Jake.
poop333333 1 year ago
Nice how after the hanging you hear a mourning dove.
calamagrostis88 1 year ago
I loved the this series....but Jake did not have to die..they could have spared him...The greatest cast ever and greatest mini series ever...
tayba1234 2 years ago
It seems that they were thinking about sparing Jake, but Jake made his horse go before they could even try to get him off.
JADsGames 2 years ago
@JADsGames I had that same kind of feeling really. They knew he was an innocent man, but Jake seemed to be set in paying his dues or giving up or something. I think he felt he didn't deserve to live after the attrocities that the crowd he was kind of pressed into had committed. Hated the fact that Jake wanted no part of those bandits and was kind of forced to stay on for fear for his life and then got hung for nothing really.
TheGames32 1 year ago
@TheGames32 In a way you have to think about the times and what kind of man Jake was. He was a Texas Ranger. As Gus stated "You to your leaving a little slow." He was the kind of man that at one point would have fought them but he slowly let let his flaws take him over. (Always running with the crowd) So in western justice and for those times he was guilty. It would be different today but back them life was still hard and so were the men.
whittvet 1 year ago
To the loudmouth: ..."go talk to the devil." Dang, what a great scene.
mbabist01 2 years ago
ime mi je Bozovic Veselin,Lonesome dove,ili usamljena golubica mi je omiljena serija,jako mi je zao dzejka,when I bee a little boy,I cry for Jake s
Mr0azz9 2 years ago
thats not the kind of hangin that breaks your neck instantly, its the kind that makes you smother till your dead. and done kicken.
cavalley1 2 years ago
i'd say they got what they deserved
bigedmustoffa 2 years ago
that they did, those bushwhacers. but jake , his only crime was being a low down dirty card playin whore monger, he didn't kill nobody. but he did loose the hoe from lonesome dove to the half breed.
cavalley1 2 years ago
Gus: (You know how it works Jake. You ride with an outlaw, you die like an outlaw. I'm sorry you crossed the line.) Too bad thugs and gang members don't get this kind of treatment these days. I'm afraid it's coming though
carbide007 2 years ago 4
When the hangings come back, it would not suprise me that savage criminals will be hanging and robbing the good folks as the bad will out number the good, and they will have no fear of justice.
Nationsnotregimes 2 years ago
They need floggings too.
chrismc410 2 years ago 2
@carbide007 how about politicans and theives in washington.
SidewaysBurnouts 2 months ago
I made my sis watch part of the movie. She asked why they were hanging them rather than taking them to the law. In fact, THEY were the closest thing to the law within at least a hundred miles.
Notice there wasn't a discussion or any hesitation about what they were going to do?
Things really were different then.
liamtz 2 years ago
Kind of a different form of justice than we have now in this new age of Obama.
itsareligionofpeace 2 years ago
New? What is it 1869?
russellcroew 2 years ago
Its a great mini series and yes it is a series
quiconjinn 2 years ago
This is my favorite movie of all time. This scene is remarkable. Great actors. Great drama. Great character. I wish I could have lived in those days.
lemmesaythis 2 years ago 3
Couldn't agree with you more.
TootiJo 2 years ago
The music in this scene, the music....wow just wow
Swoop223 2 years ago 3
They don't make them like this anymore
KIWI897 2 years ago 3
Duvall fought to have his reaction shot at the moment of Jake's hanging to be left in the movie. He called it one of the most honest acting moments he ever had.
Urich's show of fear is amazing and understated. He was underestimated as an actor.
liamtz 2 years ago
This scene is one of the greatest and saddest scenes in the series
KIWI897 2 years ago 3
Duvalls reaction makes you believe he would have called off hanging Jake at the last second.
You're right, Urich was an excellent actor. What a shame he didn't get the opportunity to do more. He is greatly missed.
TootiJo 2 years ago 4
@TootiJo is Urich dead?
reingardl 2 years ago
Unfortunately yes. He died of cancer in 2002 at the age of 55. What a shame. He was an excellent actor and one of my favorites.
TootiJo 2 years ago
it's amazing he had to ask for them to put that part in the movie. it's a gem. Duvall has also said that Lonesome Dove is as good as a Shakespeare play. high praise from one of America's greatest actors.
blutius 2 years ago
@blutius It is America's Shakesperean production. No question from any rancher that still holds the cowboy's truth.
hitmanchild 1 year ago
@hitmanchild More like America's heroic epic than Shakespearean play. As well as Moby Dick of course (only Lonesome Dove's better in my opinion - less description of rope!)
Elcore 1 year ago
Great clip, great acting.
antarcticamoon 2 years ago
robert duvall and tommy lee jones are just GODS in this miniseries. they are fantastic actors, and gus and woodrow are two of my favorite heroes.
CatieCass 2 years ago 3
Uno de los mejores, sino el mejor film sobre los hitos de la conquista del oeste norteamericano. R:Duval: un grande . tenemos la suerte de tenerlo residiendo en Argentina. Lo entrevistamos en Observatorioia con gran placer.
observatorioia 2 years ago
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Uno de los mejores, sino el mejor film sobre los hitos de la conquista del oeste norteamericano. R:Duval: un grande . tenemos la suerte de tenerlo residiendo en Argentina. Lo entrevistamos en Observatorioia con gran placer.
observatorioia 2 years ago
lol, 'Man Burner and Horse Theef'
Poor Jake. He died honorably.
degree7 2 years ago
That is hardcore Texas Rangerin' right there boys....hangin one of your buds....but ya had to do it!...I thought Danny Glover was brilliant as deets too...he doesnt get enough credit for this role.
NonStopRocker 2 years ago 6
@NonStopRocker Deets just kind of knew everything somehow. Even when his time was done. I agree Deets was a very memorable character and especially for one who had kind of a small side role if you really look at it. Wish you could have gotten to see more of Glover and learned more about his character in Deets in this movie.
TheGames32 1 year ago
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Gus said it best, he (Jake) crossed the line. Worlds toughest lawmen bar none.
vatosharpei 7 months ago
Just a great mini-series.
Hibbs4Prez 2 years ago 7
Kind of sad considering Robert Urich is no longer with us. RIP.
rockon1898 2 years ago 3
the sad part is when Gus says he got Lorie back and Jake says who?
SmileSissys 2 years ago 3
that just shows that he never gave a damn about her.
CatieCass 2 years ago
'I'll say this for you, son, you're the kind of man it's a pleasure to hang'
Brilliant line, brilliant delivery from Robert Duvall.
Thanks for posting.
bayster912 2 years ago 2
So basically they just hang in the harness and play dead? That does sound like fun. I wish I could see how it's actually done. Have you ever been on a movie set where they were doing a hanging scene?
mcmrfklaw 2 years ago
Thanks GonnaRideForever. So you've tried this? Do you work on movies? I supposed they actually have the nooses around their necks, right? How do they make it where you can't see the harnesses?
mcmrfklaw 2 years ago
The ropes are generally real narrow, edited out, background color, and sometimes can be run through the rope which is supposed to be the noose. The rope isn't tight around the neck. The harness sits under the costume. There are differant types but they fit under. My brother and me both act but when I was younger we were out rock climbing at a place where one of the guys works on film sets and he rigged us one up so we had a play on that. It was fun.
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
How did they make this hanging look so realistic? It was the actors actually hanging there and not dummies. I know they probably had harnesses or something. Does anyone know how movies perform hanging scenes?
mcmrfklaw 2 years ago
It's real simple. It's just harnesses. However there are films which harness up wrong and it looks awfull because of the way the bodies hang. I've tried it once and it is just simple harnesses. 2:40 you can see the lines behind Gavan O'Herlihy (Dan) to hold him
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
@mcmrfklaw... realistic. get real, i love the show but the hanging scene was piss poor ,when a man gets hung his neck gets broke , theses blokes were strangled to death in 2 seconds . in other words when you look at it , they were dragged of the horse and then they were... ..dead
biunyia 1 year ago
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One other thing. Gus said you ride with an outlaw, you die with an outlaw. Didn't Gus and company's horse stealing make them outlaws as well? By those standards Gus should be hanging right along with him.
Gus was no saint himself, using card tricks for "pokes" and a horse thief to boot.
chuck380 2 years ago
He didn't murder. And Pedro Flores (the man they took the horses off) had stolen those horses in the first place. It is also likely that the horses were stolen in the first place. It's a backwards and forwards system. Lorie was a whore but also if she really didn't want to give him a poke, she wouldn't have said yes to the gamble.
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
i believe they didn't consider stealing from Mexican's a crime. they stole from the Mexicans, and the Mexicans stole from them.
blutius 2 years ago
Was there a scene where someone gets killed by a snake and is it in one of the videos that are posted on here?
bradzer 2 years ago
Yes. Sean gets attacked by snakes whilst crossing a river. It ain't posted on here sorry. I would offer to but I have no free time at the moment
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
Funny - that snake scene is what I came looking for.
gpostx2 2 years ago
thanks for replying.
bradzer 2 years ago
havent seen lonesome dove for years could someone remind me why the hung jake please?
bigshow112 2 years ago
He rode with a bunch of murderin horse thieves. He didn't stop them and he didn't ride away
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
Best Western of All Time
Tret64 2 years ago
oh man just listen to the music, another magical score by the great Basil Poledouris.
Swoop223 2 years ago 2
Does anyone know why they made them take their boots off?
301south 2 years ago
Hidden guns, maybe.
Subo23 2 years ago
they woudn't get far into the territory with no boots, had they managed to escape.
judet2006 2 years ago
It happened. I almost had to hang my friend. I used a cattle prod (hotshot) on him and it got his attenion. Maybe that will keep him in line for awhile.
SGMHooah 2 years ago
I have a friend like Jake. Lots of fun, not dependable, big dreamer. Eazily lead by a woman. You might say he is a leaky vessel that won't hold water.
I'm thinking I may have to hang him some day. I hope not, but probably will.
SGMHooah 2 years ago 2
You won`t. Perhaps he is including parts of you?:)
I like these movie and the guys, who are playing. Best wishes for you. Wolfgang
whitemanrunshim 2 years ago
I've liked Robert Urich since the '70s when I first saw him in the 'Vega$' TV show. When 'Spenser for Hire' was on the air I didn't have much time to watch it but I've gotten into it lately - besides Urich's electric performance in the title role, seeing Boston area locales featured so beautifully helps a lot. So I really looked forward to seeing him in 'Lonesome Dove.' His work in this movie, and especially this scene, is brilliant. Boy, I miss him!
jessesegovia 2 years ago
It was also Urich's favourite role.
Subo23 2 years ago
I read the book but didn't see the film. That they would hang Jake didn't ring true to me -- didn't seem to fit.
4teepee 2 years ago
i'd say it definitly did fit! his own damn fault anyhow.
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
I didn't see the film. In the book, it was made to seem that it was not Jake's fault, in that he could not safely get away from the killers and that he didn't engage in the killing spree. And his so-called friends did not disbelieve him. It seemed odd that the friends who themselves stole horses from Mexico would get all self-righteous and hang Jake.
4teepee 2 years ago
Jake could have done something. And the horses Call and Gus stole were already stolen and had been many times before that. Plus they didn't kill anyone. Dan (with Jake not making any effort to stop him) killed the men hung them up and burned them. Jake could have done something or atleast ridden away
GonnaRideForever 2 years ago
Well, in my opinion theres too many today that think this way. But if we used the noose today with swiftness for murders, molestations and treason then we would be a more peaceable folk. Sad but Jake crossed the dam line.
worknmal10 2 years ago
To me, the lack of loyalty to a friend who had not himself killed anyone and was in jeopardy himself did not ring true.
4teepee 2 years ago
Well thats a good opinion, but mine would be that an accompliss to such heinous crimes is just as guilty. Also in my mind the story is almost perfect, I don't think McMurtry meant for the characters to be judged on their lives, or that they were perfect in everybody's mind but that they just were Gus and Call and all the rest and that is his story about them. I really enjoyed the movie and still do regularly.
worknmal10 2 years ago
Agreed. Although I didn't care for Jake, I lost respect for all those involved, especially Gus. With friends like that, who needs enemies?
Ultimately, they were all horse thieves (including Gus and company) and the hypocrisy and lack of loyalty sickens me.
Guess ol' Jake's word that he didn't kill anyone and was trying to ride through the territory amounts to a hill of beans. If that had been a good friend of mine you can bet I'd be interceding on his behalf. Guess I'll stick to Unforgiven.
chuck380 2 years ago
they stole horses from Mexico and didnt really kill anybody, like jake and those men did for a watch. they did the right thing. they didnt wanna hang him but they had too. its just a lesson about falling in with the bad crowd
SmileSissys 2 years ago 2
Gus and Call had been following a gang of murderers, who had also been burning the people they murdered. Jake was part of that gang, period. He "crossed the line", and had to pay the consequences. Even Jake himself didn't put up much of a fight because he knew he was guilty by association. Lonesome Doves' 6 hours stands equal to Unforgiven's 2 hours.
blutius 2 years ago 2
I once heard R.Duvall interviewed and said that watching this scene was doubly hard after Robert Uric's death from cancer.
crowleysridgegirl 2 years ago
True justice
I wish it was like that today
bofts 2 years ago
Where's he going ?
To pick out a tree to hang you from son.
Yes sir, he died fine didn't he.
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rocky4432901 3 years ago
Pretty powerful scene...Gus always tried to be hard..but had a very gentle human side...where Call was truly hard as rocks....one of my all time favorite movies.
NonStopRocker 3 years ago 4
Hey Non.... I agree...but call had all the emotion that Gus did...he just held it in ....but it leaked out in the final scene...it's posted on youtube....one of the greatest movies ever made!!!
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rocky4432901 3 years ago
When I was growing up, my teachers showed the movie "Bryans Song". Every year near Christmas time to encourage brotherly love. I don't think they had a choice, it was just something that happened every single year. I still love that movie and this one should be shown to the next generation, as ugly as some of the scenes are, it teaches the same message...Do the right thing and don't stray from what you know deep down is right.
nonopoonoop 3 years ago
" Yes sir he died fine didn't he "
hambone72 3 years ago
"Shut your damn mouth Spoon!"
Classic
coachfowler2003 3 years ago
I listened to a R. Duval interview a few years back. He happened to be in the cutting room while they edited this scene. Initially they had cut out his reaction to the Jake kicking out the horse. He persuaded them to put it back in. That was a real reaction he had at the time. WOW what a scene, actor and movie. Whenever I get the DVD out I end up watching the whole damn thing.
cletusforlife 3 years ago
Duvall's reaction, the genuine reaction, is what really makes this scene stand out in the entire movie.
da40flyer 3 years ago 2
"A man who'd go along with five killings is takin' his leave a little slow" Classic.
thepond99 3 years ago
"Pee, Newt, get your ropes"..CLASSIC
BurkeDevlin66 3 years ago
i love this movie one of my favs
barrelracin4life 3 years ago
I read that this scene was so powerful for all the actors...but especially for Duval...who tends to actually become the person he is playing.....look close at his expression after Jake is hung.....that is real emotion.......Duval.... ladies and gentleman, maybe America's greatest actor!!
pheil58 3 years ago 3
no maybe about it ... easily one of the finest actors of all time.
brokenchordman 3 years ago
We are inclined to overlook that the guys from Lonesome Dove are a morally conflicted bunch, something Larry McMurtry surely was aware of as he wrote this scene. Just before Gus, Woodrow, and the others left South Texas, they'd made a raid into Mexico to steal horses. They were armed, i.e. prepared to defend their criminality. And they hanged Jake for his close proximity to crimes that were not necessarily much worse than what they'd been prepared to commit across the Rio Grande.
bangfarang 3 years ago
Yeah but the mexican (pedro flores) they were steal the cattle and horses off, wasn't a saint himself. Also Flores had most likely stolen all the horses and cattle in the first place. Anyway they were armed for defence because Pedro Flores would have shot them given half the chance. Jake went along with Dan killing guys for fun. The crimes are completely differant.
GonnaRideForever 3 years ago
No, clearly Jake was afraid to do anything that would put him in harm's way, though we may all agree that he should have acted. Señor Flores' character is quite beside the point.
bangfarang 3 years ago
My point is that the cattle weren't technically flores' so Gus and Call weren't doing wrong by taking them. Jake should have died with honor. He could have atleast left or maybe just shot the lot of them
GonnaRideForever 3 years ago
what exactly do you mean by i.e.? I know what you mean by using that abreviation, but I would love to know what i.e. means to you.
nonopoonoop 3 years ago
I.e. means to me what it means to anyone who knows standard English (or standard Latin, perhaps). If you know what it means, I don't understand why you're asking.
bangfarang 3 years ago
but they DID not go along with COLD hard killing
biunyia 3 years ago
"...Man Burner & Horse Theif..."
Man, that scene was sick!!
...But that's how 'justice' was administered
in those days.
sweetheartbreaker666 3 years ago
pea..you and newt...git yur rope!!....sorry you crossed the line....I didnt see no line Gus............
pheil58 3 years ago
I swear.
nonopoonoop 3 years ago
your a black liar sir
biunyia 3 years ago
Duvall was a hell of an actor..but they say that scene was real in his heart ...that it took a lot out of him emotionialy you can see it in his face
pheil58 3 years ago 2
"Is" a hell of an actor. I agree, one of the best.
vashonislandguy 3 years ago
what a shit
Kampfkauz 3 years ago
"I tell you sir, you're the kind of man it's a pleasure to hang." I love Gus.
Danishlace2003 3 years ago
i didnt see no line gus
pheil58 4 years ago
Code of the West
charleneki 4 years ago
Great series! I love this saga!
jwsaunders5 4 years ago 2
then in comanche moon gus warns jake before he leaves austin not to fall in with the wrong crowd cause they dont want to have to hang him
rankhorse 4 years ago
"Yes sir, he sure died fine, didn't he?" Another line I like is when the second of the condemned men complains that he should have died ahead of "Little Eddie," the youngest of the bunch. The clip shows different ways in which each man resigns himself to his impending death, progressing from the least to the most noble acceptance of fate. I like the framing of Robert Duvall between swinging corpses as he pays his last respects. Thanks for posting the clip!
CaldColo 4 years ago
I wonder, how did they do the stunt of hanging all these characters without harming the actors? It looks very convincing and I don't believe it's dummys swinging, but I could be wrong.
mkr8683 4 years ago
they had harnesses under their costumes. and the neckers hid it from veiw i think. You can tell it's not dummies cos dan's (gavan o'herlihy) foot moves as roy is hung. between 3:10 and 3:14
GonnaRideForever 4 years ago
If you look carefully at 5:22-5:23, you'll see that there's a lot of slack in the noose around Robert Urich's neck.
Trivia: Martin "Farmer" Burns, a 19th century wrestler, had a neck so strong he could survive a "hangman's drop" -- and often did as a sideshow stunt. I've seen the photographs.
Kirok 4 years ago
if you look around 2:40 just behind Dan you can see two wires coming out from what i would guess is a harness
GonnaRideForever 4 years ago
pretty sad scene
hanniballecter3 4 years ago
There's a story that when this scene was filmed, it bothered Robert Duvall so much that they had to stop filming. His reaction when Jake kicks the horse was a genuine response. Great scene in one of the finest movies ever made.
da40flyer 4 years ago
This scene is unbearable to watch. It must have been just as unbearable to perform.
Jake Spoon in the novel wasn't as charming or likable as Robert Urich (few performers have been, for that matter). This is an example of how the casting and direction took a scene that was brilliant on the page and made it EVEN BETTER on the screen.
Kirok 4 years ago 3
What a fine actor,such a shame Robert Urich is gone now.THe line: "well hell boys,damn sight'd rather be hung by my friends than a bunch of damn strangers-"!!
crowleysridgegirl 4 years ago
How did he die?
adrianembrey99 4 years ago
Robert Uric died some time back from a rare form of cancer.
crowleysridgegirl 4 years ago
He was a genuinely decent man. While living in Park City, he went out of his way to be nice to several people I know very well -- people who worked at grocery stores, dry cleaners, and so on.
Kirok 4 years ago
I was heartbroken when he died.
crowleysridgegirl 4 years ago
when see feel like we robert again he a great actor
cbowman61 4 years ago
Some of the characters including Call and Gus are base don real people but those people had differant names and stuff
GonnaRideForever 4 years ago
"Never saw no line, Gus." One of the most profound exchanges in all cinema....
proffromgview 4 years ago 2
You know, you'r right. It sums up the difference between the true and the un-true, the good and the not so good. jake wasn't really a BAD GUY, he just never saw the line. Book and FIlm are SUPERB. it's rare that a film so good comes along.
ryanthethird 3 years ago
duvall is one of the greatest actors of all time
tazzjp 4 years ago
THANKS GonnaRideForever, you are the man!!! Oh, and does anyone know how factual the character of woodrow f call is played out? I have heard Tommy Lee Jones talk about how he admired this character the most of all his movies.
adrianembrey99 4 years ago
It's from a novel! Not factual at all. I would say that these kinds of characters were found all over the west, so you might say they are fairly accurate types.
proffromgview 4 years ago
Well I was watching an interview after Tommy Lee Jones got finished with COBB, and the interviewer asked why he liked playing Woodrow F. Call so much, and he said that the cattleman, and texas ranger Woodrow Call always intrigued him. Not a character, the real guy from West Texas I believe.
adrianembrey99 4 years ago
He's talking about the fictional characters from the Larry McMurtry novel, "Lonesome Dove!"
proffromgview 4 years ago
I swear . . .
and I'm certain I musta rode with them boys in a past life.
ImWhoLeeOh 4 years ago
this is the best western ever made of all time
fitzjess21 4 years ago
Agreed
504infantry 4 years ago
Lot of sad parts of this wonderful mini-series. I always cried for Deets because he was truly a saint, and as such came back to help Pea Eye (that part where his spirit guides Pea Eye would be a good scene to post).
irishlight42 4 years ago
"even if he did have one on him there is no garentee that it was loaded or if he even had bullets."
Why wouldn't he?
JacobMcandles 4 years ago