I was born 87 years ago. For 65 years I've ruled as Tamriel's Emperor. But for all these years I have never been the ruler of my own dreams. I have seen the Gates of Oblivion, beyond which no waking eye may see. Behold, in Darkness a Doom sweeps the land. This is the 27th of Last Seed; the Year of Akatosh 433. These are the closing days of the 3rd Era, and the final hours of my life.
Despite loving Skyrim, I still get chills hearing this song. Oblivions theme sounds more heroic (since the plot of the game is going into the plane of Oblivion and shutting the jaws shut), while Skyrims is just epic. Each games respective themes just fits with the premise and plot of its game. I dont really see any being better than another.
@PocketfulOfBoomkin lol no its not... all the elder scrolls songs are practicallly the same song done different. like the 2001 game had the same song almost. stop trolling
The amount of Skyrim players that don't even know what this game is. It's just embarresing. I had a friend say to me once 'Oh, I got Skyrim, it's really good. Do you have a copy of Skyrim 4 I could borrow?' and I just facepalmed.
@OrangeRevenge Oblivion was the first game of the series that I got, and I had no idea what Morrowind was til years later. Teach him, like Yoda, so that he may learn.
"I was born 87 yrs ago, for 65 yrs i hav served as Tamriel's emperor, but for all these yrs I've never been the ruler of my own dreams. I hav seen the gates of oblivion beyond which no waking eyes may see. Behold in darkness a doom sweeps the land. This is the 27th of last seed, year of Akatosh, 433. These are the closing days of third era. And the final hours of my life."
@yognaut619 Probably. From a strictly musical standpoint Skyrim's theme is far more "powerful" and dramatic. However, nostalgia and love for a game can easily sway one's opinion about a piece of music
@bradvssasha That's just your opinion. Everything about Skyrim's theme suggests that Soule intended for it to be better and more powerful than this one. I could go on and on about the compositional qualities in Skyrim's theme that make it more dramatic than this but that would take forever. The sheer fact that Bethesda intended for Skyrim to be the bigger and better game and that surely Todd Howard told Jeremy Soule that it had to have a bigger/better theme should be more than enough evidence
@AbsoluteZ3R0 That's not evidence lol. Why do so many ppl presume to know Soule's mind? If he is like most other artists, then he wasn't thinking of makin the game "bigger and better". Only producers think like that. Isn't it equally possible that he just made a theme to fit the game's setting? I would say yes. And I'd be very curious to know how you qualify a soundtrack as being "bigger and better" anyway.
@Aaronthegreatest Todd Howard is the one who instructed Jeremy Soule on how he wanted the theme to sound. I do not presume to read his mind but as a composer myself Ithink it's fairly obvious. There are several ways to qualify a soundtrack as "bigger and better". For starters, the instrumentation/orchestration of Skyrim's theme is more dramatic since it includes more brass instruments as well as an entire male choir. The instruments used sound a lot more realistic than those used in this theme
@Aaronthegreatest as well. Song form is another huge factor. Skyrim's theme is nearly 4 minutes long and does not technically repeat. This theme is only about 1:45 long and has significantly less of a musical buildup than Skyrim's theme. Texture-wise there is also a great deal more orchestral counterpoint in Skyrim's theme, as well as more harmonic variety. I could go on in much
@Aaronthegreatest greater detail but it would take forever simply because there are SO many objective musical qualities about Skyrim's theme that make it more powerful than this one. I have just outlined a few of the obvious ones. I think it's ironic that you claim to have better insight on how an artist's mind works yet you are obviously not a composer yourself.
@Aaronthegreatest Also, although it should not be necessary to mention this to make my point more valid, I should let you know that even though I am proving that Skyrim's theme is more powerful than this one, I actually like this one better. The reason for that is because I like Oblivion more than Skyrim and therefore this theme provokes a stronger emotional response from me, which is why I think some people are insisting that this theme is more powerful, even though it obviously isn't.
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I don't think you have a point, and you haven't "proved" anything lol. There's no way to objectively decide whether one theme is better than another; it all comes down to personal preference. All I'm saying is that Soule probably went with Skyrim's theme because it fits with the rest of the setting, not because it was "bigger and better".
Music that's subtler can prove every bit as powerful as music that's louder.
@Aaronthegreatest Just because you don't "think" I have a point doesn't mean I don't. You actually can argue over which theme is better composed or bigger and to say otherwise demonstrates either a poor or amateur understanding of the way music works. Enjoyability (what you're actually referring to) is an entirely different thing and is subjective, but the Skyrim theme is overall just a better piece of music. You can't claim to have any insight as to how Soule thinks because you're obviously not
@Aaronthegreatest a composer and probably not even a musician. And of course music that's subtle can be as powerful as music that's louder. Why do you think so many people prefer the Morrowind theme over this one or Skyrim's? That has nothing to do with the issue here. You're also totally ignoring the fact that Bethesda designed Skyrim with the intention of being grander than Oblivion in every way. Knowing that and knowing that Todd Howard worked with Jeremy Soule on this, it's very clear. Why
@Aaronthegreatest do you think that Skyrim's theme is longer, written for a much larger ensemble, more dramatic, and uses more intense harmony and counterpoint than this theme? Oh yeah, it's because Skyrim was supposed to be a better game and needed a bigger and better theme. Even if you ignore this and try to argue that he was only trying to fit the setting (which is wrong), you can't ignore the OBJECTIVE musical qualities I just listed that make the Skyrim theme simply sound more important
Pre-Skyrim: huh...nice, epic music for an epic adventure...alright...
Post-Skyrim: the Song of the Dragonborn...it makes so much sense! The Septims were Dragonborn Emperors, so it is logical they would use it. Pretty clever move Bethesda.
@doggod106 More variety in Skyim? Dude Skyrim doesn't have hand to hand, athletics, acrobatics, blunt, Mercantile, Mysticism, Alteration and classes. Also you cant make your own spells any more. Also the majority of quests in Skyrim are just delivery or 'errend' jobs. How does Skyrim have more variety? Also TES have always being about being limated to a thief, mage, warrior, etr. In skyrim you haft to be a 'all round character', Skyrim loses its TES feel because of this.
Oblivion had more variety then Skyrim. Skyrim feels more simplified to me. Shame. I meing Bethesda removed the classes in Skyrim. Wtf were they high when they made that decision? Removeing classes from TES is like removeing eggs from easter.
I love this soundtrack. Much better than skyrim's. Dont get me wrong, bethesda did an amazing job with skyrim but it wont be as memorable for me as oblivion was because of the soundtrack.
@talmeretz comment blocked by the youtube overuse of comments dept. might want to check into that. taking a bullet to the knee might be better for you
you can always count on bethesda to make to a fucking awesome sound track. since morrowind(the first bethesda game i ever played) i have been enthralled by the music that has guided my adventures. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Skyrim, all have some of the best soundtracks of any games around.
@Spec49423 It isn't Bethesda, but the composers they hire. In this case it is Jeremy Soule who composed the soundtrack for this as well as Morrowind/Skyrim
this song makes me remember of the big asshole i am, when i got my ps3 in 2008 i got it with oblivion, it was very fun but my gaming skills were very low, so i didnt get so far in the game, so i sold it, a few months ago i went to my friend's house and i played oblivion again, and i couldnt believe i sold it, i was an asshole, i saw thousands of vids from skyrim and its better than oblivion but when i herd this song i was like "shit! i know that skyrim is better, but im gonna miss you oblivion!"
@LELEL73737 In my opinion, Oblivion is better in one way: The music. Skyrim is better in every other way, pretty much. Oblivion had a nice feeling to it, though, that Skyrim doesn't.
Now, you see. All they need to do is play this music to the Imperial Legions and any Thalmor or Stormcloaks or Bandits that come at them will be left as fine paste on the floor.
Fuck everything in my life. At the moment I'm listening to this brilliant score and reliving those great days. Nothing in the world is going to disturb that.
Could you guys just stop arguing please? The youtube comments are there for you to state your thoughts on the content of the video/soundtrack. Not to state opinion after opinion on why you think you're better than the other guy.
@TheBiggamer64 Oh really? Can you find me a youtube rule book that states explicitly what the comments are for? If you actually read our conversations you would see that I was simply correcting a musical error on his part. It has nothing to do with "stating opinion after opinion on why we think we're better than the other".
@AbsoluteZ3R0 There doesn't need to be a rulebook because if you were smart you wouldn't sit there wasting yoru time in the comments trying to prove a point that will only make you look like a prick in the end.
@TheBiggamer64 I don't believe my argument made me look like a prick, although if you do then that's fine. Being correct in an argument doesn't make you a prick, it makes you right. Secondly, what qualification do you have to judge whether an activity makes you smart or not? You're saying that because I use the comment section differently than YOU do that I must not be smart. Now who sounds like a prick? Sorry, maybe I'll try to be more like you so I can appear smart.
@AbsoluteZ3R0 nobody really cares to hear your words of knowledge because you're one of those people placed on this great, big, overpopulated world of ours for the rest of society to laugh at behind your back. Also, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries. <-- See, I can make assumptions, too! You've made my day so much better because I've seen the kind of serious, my-intellect-is-superior tryhards like you often, and you guys are the funniest bunch ever. John 3:16. 42.
@KillswitchKav It's now even more obvious that you are not trolling. You're just mad. Our argument was over whether or not it made sense for someone to want to sing "dovahkiin" to this melody. I proved that it made perfect sense. That was our argument, and for some reason you got overly offended that I said you were a fool for not realizing that (which you are). The reason I butted into the argument is because YOU were actually the one who came off as the prick. You replied to someone who had
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I love how you think I'm mad haha. There isn't any argument between us other than this made-up one you have created for yourself in your head lol. My "argument", if you could even call it that, was with someone else and didn't include a third party. And when you did decide to butt in, you came out attempting to act like a bigoted, condescending genius, placing yourself on some pedestal, and considering I had stopped replying (which you could tell if you looked at my last commented)
@KillswitchKav written out the Skyrim lyrics and told them that you didn't understand because the two themes were completely different. Because your statement was completely wrong and even after the other guy explained in a friendly manner why you were incorrect you continued to insist that you were right, I felt the need to butt in. Originally I thought you were stupid for not realizing that you were wrong, but not I realize that you're just one of those guys who hates being wrong.
@KillswitchKav Also, you're the one hurling insults now. What's the matter? Run out of an actual cogent argument? You know when you insult someone over the internet it doesn't do anything. The best you can do is either prove someone wrong or right or convince them with empirical evidence and reason. It's ironic that you keep acting like I'm the one who's overly invested, when your responses are the ones filled with insults. Clearly, I am more detached from this than you are
@AbsoluteZ3R0 , I find it humorous. You keep tossing this argument concept out, but it's virtually nonexistent. And you don't even see what I'm doing, which I love. You think I'm hurling insults because I'm upset, and you can't even see what the purpose of it is, or the correlation. But as much fun as this has been, I'm getting a little tired of the Oblivion theme, so I think I'll cash in my check and let you be. Go ahead and try to insult my intelligence or lack thereof in your retort. Whatever
@AbsoluteZ3R0 makes you feel like a champ or a winner. Keep throwing assumptions about me hating to be wrong; go ahead and feel like a hotshot. I'll make a plastic medal and mail it to you that reads "No. 1 Genius on Everything There is to Know About Anything". Just PM me your address. Or your social security number. Preferably the latter. Anyway, lighten up, Francis, take a chill pill or two, and stop looking so hard into things. I heard you can get cancer from that. Okay, I love you, adios!
@KillswitchKav I love how you continue to act as if this entire thing is just one big spectacle for your amusement, and how you ignore the initial argument that started it all. As I said before, it's a good way to snake yourself out of being wrong, but whatever. You appear the type of person who can't admit fault once you become emotionally invested. I said you were a fool for not realizing that the themes were the same, and you're the one who blew it up from there. You never had a reason to say
@KillswitchKav that I was being condescending or continue the argument any further. This entire argument should have ended once I demonstrated how the two themes were the same, but somehow you kept it going. That was the argument, and none of this other nonsense had any purpose. Let me ask you something: Why is that after my very first comment you replied with hostility despite being clearly wrong?
@KillswitchKav Also, you say "And when you did decide to butt in, you came out attempting to act like a bigoted, condescending genius, placing yourself on some pedestal" How is that even remotely true? Is it because I referred to my stunning academic history? Is it because I referred to some fantastic accomplishment or merit that I have that no one else does? Is it because I used really fancy vocabulary? Oh wait, it's because I called you a fool. Lol, I'm the one with "sand in my vagina"
@TheBiggamer64 Well believe it or not, you're the one who started the second argument. I don't know how much you read, but my first comment wasn't negative. It was in defense of somebody else who had posted the Skyrim lyrics on this video because the themes from both games are identical. Do you disagree? I don't understand, if you want an argument to end then you tell the person who's wrong that they're wrong and that does it.
Not gonna lie...I like Oblivion's overworld a little more than Skyrims. The fields in Oblivion are so beautiful. I guess I'll need to play Skyrim a little longer. I also like this menu theme better.
@andraken It is, yeah, but it's stronger and has a much faster tempo. Skyrim only has one part like them, though, and it's not the "Dovahkiin" part. I think it ends right before it actually lol.
@andraken Those are two different parts, man. They're not the same at all. The part from the Skyrim theme that is like Oblivion's and Morrowind's is at 2:06 on the original theme video.
@KillswitchKav no, listen better, the main theme is the same too. Not identical, but similar. The leit motiv is the same, as it is, for example, in Star Wars the Force Theme. Soule used the Force Theme in Bastila Shan Theme, even if it is not equal, there are the same notes.
@andraken And I'm telling you, the part from Skyrim that has the "Dovahkiin" chant in it isn't the same. You're thinking of a different part. There's a section in there similar to this and Morrowind, but it's not that one...
@KillswitchKav I've said you I'm not they are real the same, but similar. The motiv, even if changed, is the same... I don't know how to tell, that in music you don't have to express the same exact notes always to reprise a leit motiv. I can tell you another example from the Diablo 3 Theme, it has quite the same melody, but not with the same style. Skyrim is faster and there is a change on the last part of the "Dovahkiin" part. Btw I agree with you that the part you consider is much more similar
@KillswitchKav You're a fool. The themes are nearly identical, even the tone deaf have noticed. The theme starting at :17 is the exact same theme used in all of the games. The difference is that in Oblivion the theme ends at :24 and goes into some contrapuntal nonsense whereas in Morrowind and Skyrim the theme continues into new melodic material.
@AbsoluteZ3R0 They're not nearly identical in the part he was talking about, but thanks for playing. I like how you're throwing insults out trying to act all condescending like. Yep, that doesn't make you look like a total prick at all. Grow up, bud.
I'm not trying to act condescending. To say that you don't understand why someone would want to sing the Skyrim lyrics to this theme is literally stupid because the themes are so blatantly similar. Granted, there are differences in melodic direction in the first two phrases, it's rhythmically and motivically identical. The actual melody is played in the third phrase of the theme by the trumpet so it's extremely obvious as to why someone would want to sing "dovahkiin" to this melody
@AbsoluteZ3R0 "I'm not trying to act condescending, yet I call people fools, tone-deaf, and stupid." IYeah, okay, I totally believe you, bud. I'm also hereditarily half-deaf as well, so let's keep playing the ignorant game some more, shall we? Or maybe I can play that game as well and talk about how the in-depth analysis you've given into a video game song makes me wonder how you could ever get laid by anyone mildly attractive. In short, stop preaching to me in your shit-attitude and piss off.
@KillswitchKav You're the one who needs to grow up if you think making a comment about about me getting laid somehow bolsters your argument. It's idiotic to say such a thing. Also, literally all of your favorites on youtube are related to video games and yet somehow you find it appropriate to make such a remark? I've barely gone in-depth at all, and even if I had, the fact that it's video game music doesn't make it any less worthy of analysis than something else. If anything, video game music
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I said I was playing the ignorant game, just like you have, so now we're on the same page. And yet, I only have 3 favorites, and that sure says what, that I barely come on Youtube? And if you bother to watch the first one, it has to do with a football joke, so if you're going to creep on me, let's do a better job, shall we? I also don't understand how the fact that video games+laid comment=inability to make said laid comment. Let's see that analysis now, shall we?
@KillswitchKav tends to be more complex and well-written than the vast majority of non-classical music, so I don't get your point. Just because you've been proven wrong doesn't mean you have to resort to ad hominem. It makes you look desperate and stupid
@AbsoluteZ3R0 And if I don't agree with you and still think you're full of yourself, then you really have proven nothing to anyone but yourself. You're also over-analyzing my posts, considering I only made that comment to act exactly as you have been. Also, it's fun to see you get all defensive about it. "Bu-bu-bu, how does that help your argument? You're a liar and a meanie-face! Sham, sir, sham! Video games=You no get laid!" That's all I'm getting from ya', bud.
@KillswitchKav If that's all you're getting from me then you're simply too stupid to understand my point. It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, you are simply incorrect in stating that the themes are not the same. I don't know what kind of musical background you have but based off of your argument it seems like you have none. I'm sorry that me proving you wrong has made you so angry, but you just have to accept that you're not always right.
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I keep replying due to the fact I find your seriousness over this quite humorous. It's like I have your complete focus as you try to tell me how wrong I am (And if you noticed, I stopped replying to the first person because he agreed that they're not identical but said they're similar, which I agreed with but figured it wasn't worth replying to). You're just fun to troll because you have the serious pants strapped on so tight it makes for a good laugh. Your insults are all
@KillswitchKav Furthermore, you have failed to demonstrate how I've been ignorant. Do you think that calling someone a fool for doing or saying something foolish is ignorant? Do you think that no one is tone deaf? I'm sorry, but I simply don't understand. Your impression of me consisted of ad hominem, which is a fallacy I never use in my arguments. You have now demonstrated twice that you pay little attention to detail, first in failing to realize that the themes are the same, and now in your
@AbsoluteZ3R0 based on assumptions, and it provided for a good laugh at 3 in the morning, most likely because I was buzzed, but even now you're making me laugh. I'm also unsure of what I'm supposed to concede, because that would mean we're having an argument, when this whole time I thought I was mocking a tool. Do you by chance have autism? Negative ghost rider. The cow goes moo, and the answer is 42. Rawr. Now I can't wait to see how much sand in your vagina you get over this.
@KillswitchKav I don't believe that you were trolling, although saying that you were is a very good way to snake your way out of being the loser in an argument. You can go ahead and act as if this entire argument is beneath you and that you never really cared, but if you read back, you were clearly the first to show hostility and anger. Nice try though
@AbsoluteZ3R0 What is this nonexistent argument you're producing from thin air? If there was any "argument", it was between me and the first guy I was talking to, but then you throw your hat in the ring for lord knows why andlabel it an argument because your life must be pretty boring and internet conflict is like an athletic event for you. I also enjoy how you can clearly see hostility and anger within typed words when you can't even see/hear the person you're talking to. Honestly, it's the
@AbsoluteZ3R0label funniest thing ever; you're trying to give me some sort of psychiatric analysis to explain what I must obviously be thinking, feeling, etc., when I'm sitting here smiling like an idiot because the amount of sand wedged in your vagina must be enormous for you to have commented first and to still give me your attention. And I believe that guy is calling you a prick because you come of
Fus ro dah!
13ToFade 21 hours ago
Almost crying to this lol those were times
SporadicTroll 1 day ago
@SporadicTroll graphic change but music stay beautiful
FREEZERQC 13 hours ago
I was born 87 years ago. For 65 years I've ruled as Tamriel's Emperor. But for all these years I have never been the ruler of my own dreams. I have seen the Gates of Oblivion, beyond which no waking eye may see. Behold, in Darkness a Doom sweeps the land. This is the 27th of Last Seed; the Year of Akatosh 433. These are the closing days of the 3rd Era, and the final hours of my life.
Spottedstar01 2 days ago 7
this brings back memories, oh lucien how i miss you.
SexDisease 3 days ago 5
One ofthe best game soundtracks ever.
jsnchrry 5 days ago
I'm glad you decided to play this song multiple times in the video, saves me the hassle of slamming the replay button over and over again :)
vexec15 5 days ago in playlist Oblivion Soundtrack
Amazing, simply amazing... No other words can't describe it
Dazidan 6 days ago
you cant beat bethesda they are just the best every other company that tries to reach them will be stomped in the ground
Kichmica 6 days ago
My favorite song in the series.
Gavin79746 1 week ago
Despite loving Skyrim, I still get chills hearing this song. Oblivions theme sounds more heroic (since the plot of the game is going into the plane of Oblivion and shutting the jaws shut), while Skyrims is just epic. Each games respective themes just fits with the premise and plot of its game. I dont really see any being better than another.
TheKramerllama 1 week ago 4
DEM FLUTES
dragonsofice 1 week ago in playlist Favorite videos
Oblivion's music is the best in all The Elder Scrolls Games
pescalante2 1 week ago 3
This is just a gay rip off of pirates of the Carribean
PocketfulOfBoomkin 2 weeks ago
@PocketfulOfBoomkin It is a variation of Morrowind theme, you obvious troll.
Empowerless 2 weeks ago
@PocketfulOfBoomkin
assumptions...
w1ndmeta1 2 weeks ago
@PocketfulOfBoomkin pirates of the carribean is a rip off of oblivion
GoldenSharkz 1 week ago
@PocketfulOfBoomkin lol no its not... all the elder scrolls songs are practicallly the same song done different. like the 2001 game had the same song almost. stop trolling
vespaman101 1 week ago
Oblivion > Skyrim
2PacalypseNow1991 2 weeks ago 7
@2PacalypseNow1991 Morrowind >> Skyrim > Oblivion
Oblivion was obviously not made for a pc with a mouse and a keyboard.
gokudomatic 2 weeks ago
Todd Howard you my friend are fucking amazing.... Long live Bethesda
hugamumfterwoof 2 weeks ago
The amount of Skyrim players that don't even know what this game is. It's just embarresing. I had a friend say to me once 'Oh, I got Skyrim, it's really good. Do you have a copy of Skyrim 4 I could borrow?' and I just facepalmed.
OrangeRevenge 2 weeks ago
@OrangeRevenge Oblivion was the first game of the series that I got, and I had no idea what Morrowind was til years later. Teach him, like Yoda, so that he may learn.
Aaronthegreatest 2 weeks ago in playlist oblivion
@OrangeRevenge Not as badly as I facepalmed at your spelling of embarrassing.
XpanterafanX 1 week ago
bethesda is the best
FlankerHD 3 weeks ago 30
Ah The Elder Scrolls are EPIC Games!
FAULBAER100 3 weeks ago 50
"I was born 87 yrs ago, for 65 yrs i hav served as Tamriel's emperor, but for all these yrs I've never been the ruler of my own dreams. I hav seen the gates of oblivion beyond which no waking eyes may see. Behold in darkness a doom sweeps the land. This is the 27th of last seed, year of Akatosh, 433. These are the closing days of third era. And the final hours of my life."
Uriel Septim VII
victorhng 3 weeks ago 4
am i the only person who thinks this is more.. powerful than skyrims theme?
yognaut619 3 weeks ago
@yognaut619 Probably. From a strictly musical standpoint Skyrim's theme is far more "powerful" and dramatic. However, nostalgia and love for a game can easily sway one's opinion about a piece of music
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@yognaut619 no this was much better than skyrims
bradvssasha 2 weeks ago
@bradvssasha That's just your opinion. Everything about Skyrim's theme suggests that Soule intended for it to be better and more powerful than this one. I could go on and on about the compositional qualities in Skyrim's theme that make it more dramatic than this but that would take forever. The sheer fact that Bethesda intended for Skyrim to be the bigger and better game and that surely Todd Howard told Jeremy Soule that it had to have a bigger/better theme should be more than enough evidence
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago in playlist Favorite videos
@AbsoluteZ3R0 That's not evidence lol. Why do so many ppl presume to know Soule's mind? If he is like most other artists, then he wasn't thinking of makin the game "bigger and better". Only producers think like that. Isn't it equally possible that he just made a theme to fit the game's setting? I would say yes. And I'd be very curious to know how you qualify a soundtrack as being "bigger and better" anyway.
Aaronthegreatest 2 weeks ago in playlist oblivion
@Aaronthegreatest Todd Howard is the one who instructed Jeremy Soule on how he wanted the theme to sound. I do not presume to read his mind but as a composer myself Ithink it's fairly obvious. There are several ways to qualify a soundtrack as "bigger and better". For starters, the instrumentation/orchestration of Skyrim's theme is more dramatic since it includes more brass instruments as well as an entire male choir. The instruments used sound a lot more realistic than those used in this theme
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago
@Aaronthegreatest as well. Song form is another huge factor. Skyrim's theme is nearly 4 minutes long and does not technically repeat. This theme is only about 1:45 long and has significantly less of a musical buildup than Skyrim's theme. Texture-wise there is also a great deal more orchestral counterpoint in Skyrim's theme, as well as more harmonic variety. I could go on in much
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago
@Aaronthegreatest greater detail but it would take forever simply because there are SO many objective musical qualities about Skyrim's theme that make it more powerful than this one. I have just outlined a few of the obvious ones. I think it's ironic that you claim to have better insight on how an artist's mind works yet you are obviously not a composer yourself.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago
@Aaronthegreatest Also, although it should not be necessary to mention this to make my point more valid, I should let you know that even though I am proving that Skyrim's theme is more powerful than this one, I actually like this one better. The reason for that is because I like Oblivion more than Skyrim and therefore this theme provokes a stronger emotional response from me, which is why I think some people are insisting that this theme is more powerful, even though it obviously isn't.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 weeks ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 shut up....
GoldenSharkz 1 week ago
@GoldenSharkz Why should I
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 week ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I don't think you have a point, and you haven't "proved" anything lol. There's no way to objectively decide whether one theme is better than another; it all comes down to personal preference. All I'm saying is that Soule probably went with Skyrim's theme because it fits with the rest of the setting, not because it was "bigger and better".
Music that's subtler can prove every bit as powerful as music that's louder.
Aaronthegreatest 1 week ago
@Aaronthegreatest Just because you don't "think" I have a point doesn't mean I don't. You actually can argue over which theme is better composed or bigger and to say otherwise demonstrates either a poor or amateur understanding of the way music works. Enjoyability (what you're actually referring to) is an entirely different thing and is subjective, but the Skyrim theme is overall just a better piece of music. You can't claim to have any insight as to how Soule thinks because you're obviously not
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 week ago
@Aaronthegreatest a composer and probably not even a musician. And of course music that's subtle can be as powerful as music that's louder. Why do you think so many people prefer the Morrowind theme over this one or Skyrim's? That has nothing to do with the issue here. You're also totally ignoring the fact that Bethesda designed Skyrim with the intention of being grander than Oblivion in every way. Knowing that and knowing that Todd Howard worked with Jeremy Soule on this, it's very clear. Why
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 week ago
@Aaronthegreatest do you think that Skyrim's theme is longer, written for a much larger ensemble, more dramatic, and uses more intense harmony and counterpoint than this theme? Oh yeah, it's because Skyrim was supposed to be a better game and needed a bigger and better theme. Even if you ignore this and try to argue that he was only trying to fit the setting (which is wrong), you can't ignore the OBJECTIVE musical qualities I just listed that make the Skyrim theme simply sound more important
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 week ago
I wish there was an option where we could import the soundtrack from Oblivion into Skyrim.
MasterNinja1250 3 weeks ago 3
@MasterNinja1250 if you listen closely, all the music is the same just in different variations.
ALiiVe024 3 weeks ago in playlist Epic game music
My thoughts on this song:
Pre-Skyrim: huh...nice, epic music for an epic adventure...alright...
Post-Skyrim: the Song of the Dragonborn...it makes so much sense! The Septims were Dragonborn Emperors, so it is logical they would use it. Pretty clever move Bethesda.
SwordlordRoy 3 weeks ago
@SwordlordRoy /facepalm...
ALiiVe024 3 weeks ago in playlist Epic game music
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@doggod106 More variety in Skyim? Dude Skyrim doesn't have hand to hand, athletics, acrobatics, blunt, Mercantile, Mysticism, Alteration and classes. Also you cant make your own spells any more. Also the majority of quests in Skyrim are just delivery or 'errend' jobs. How does Skyrim have more variety? Also TES have always being about being limated to a thief, mage, warrior, etr. In skyrim you haft to be a 'all round character', Skyrim loses its TES feel because of this.
Terrorist12341 3 weeks ago
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Terrorist12341 3 weeks ago
Can you bye this soundtrack?
PJMunoz21 3 weeks ago
@PJMunoz21 goodbuy
Daxter1404 3 weeks ago
@Daxter1404 Bye.
PJMunoz21 3 weeks ago
@PJMunoz21 You can get it at directsong for $10, and you can also get the 6 and a half hour skyrim soundtrack for $30.
WilliamHessert 3 weeks ago
@WilliamHessert Thank's dude.
PJMunoz21 3 weeks ago
@PJMunoz21 You can download it free from the Elder Scrolls website under Oblivion-Downloads.
Spec6257 3 weeks ago
@Spec6257 Thank you very much dude.
PJMunoz21 3 weeks ago
@PJMunoz21 bye?
XxDahamonnahxX 3 weeks ago
@XxDahamonnahxX Sorry long day at work.
PJMunoz21 3 weeks ago
Oblivion had more variety then Skyrim. Skyrim feels more simplified to me. Shame. I meing Bethesda removed the classes in Skyrim. Wtf were they high when they made that decision? Removeing classes from TES is like removeing eggs from easter.
Terrorist12341 3 weeks ago
@Terrorist12341 You don't need a class to choose. Do what you like and you'll get better. It's essentially designing your own class
scotzorz 3 weeks ago in playlist Oblivion OST
@Terrorist12341 No not lacing it's lacking I hate when I forget a letter.
doggod106 3 weeks ago
@Terrorist12341 i agree
DissocialPersonality 3 weeks ago
I love this soundtrack. Much better than skyrim's. Dont get me wrong, bethesda did an amazing job with skyrim but it wont be as memorable for me as oblivion was because of the soundtrack.
grandslam1231 4 weeks ago
@grandslam1231 It wasn't Bethesda, it was Jeremy Soule. He is technically completely unaffiliated with Bethesda.
AbsoluteZ3R0 4 weeks ago
@grandslam1231 Yeah, the Oblivion Theme was epic without throwing in your face it was epic like the Skyrim theme.
sirbalsac 3 weeks ago
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@talmeretz
i used to take arrows in the knee. but then i realised it has absolutely nothing to do with anything so i stopped using that stupid joke :P
MHLUNA24 1 month ago
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MHLUNA24 1 month ago
@talmeretz comment blocked by the youtube overuse of comments dept. might want to check into that. taking a bullet to the knee might be better for you
yamahonkawazuki 1 month ago
@yamahonkawazuki I used to take arrows to the knee then I took an arrow to the knee.
PrivateVideoArchive 4 weeks ago
sound^^
Lancelot1407 1 month ago
bester sountrack ever.....
Lancelot1407 1 month ago
you can always count on bethesda to make to a fucking awesome sound track. since morrowind(the first bethesda game i ever played) i have been enthralled by the music that has guided my adventures. Morrowind, Oblivion, Fallout 3, Fallout New Vegas, and Skyrim, all have some of the best soundtracks of any games around.
Spec49423 1 month ago
@Spec49423 same with me but wen i play skyrim the music is so quiet even wen i put it to to the max
sindios85 1 month ago
@Spec49423 It isn't Bethesda, but the composers they hire. In this case it is Jeremy Soule who composed the soundtrack for this as well as Morrowind/Skyrim
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 month ago
I used to play oblivion then i took a skyrim in the knee
wilshire1992 1 month ago
Best soundtrack ever! This music is amazing.
fierceeagle2003 1 month ago
I like the Oblivion Theme better than Skyrim's. Oblivion's theme is much more subtle. Skyrim's theme is just loud. Still epic though.
TheBiggamer64 1 month ago
"These are the closing days of the Third Era. And the final hours...of my life."
Best line in video game history.
iliketoplagtasa 1 month ago 3
this song makes me remember of the big asshole i am, when i got my ps3 in 2008 i got it with oblivion, it was very fun but my gaming skills were very low, so i didnt get so far in the game, so i sold it, a few months ago i went to my friend's house and i played oblivion again, and i couldnt believe i sold it, i was an asshole, i saw thousands of vids from skyrim and its better than oblivion but when i herd this song i was like "shit! i know that skyrim is better, but im gonna miss you oblivion!"
LELEL73737 1 month ago
@LELEL73737 In my opinion, Oblivion is better in one way: The music. Skyrim is better in every other way, pretty much. Oblivion had a nice feeling to it, though, that Skyrim doesn't.
iCloverify 1 month ago 2
@iCloverify especially for all hte arrow to the knee comments Eh?
yamahonkawazuki 1 month ago
@yamahonkawazuki Especially those, yeah.
iCloverify 1 month ago
I FUCKING MISS OBLIVION SO MUCH, IT JUST GETS REALLY BORING WHEN YOU'VE DONE EVERYTHING THERE IS TO BE DONE. BUT STILL A REALLY GREAT GAME.
iliketoplagtasa 1 month ago
Back then when playing oblivion, I'd always finished listenening the the song first before starting the game.
Huygens91 1 month ago 3
this song makes me want to go an adventur to bad i took a arrow to the knee
TheGamingGrid22 1 month ago
0:15 - 0:28 is like an orgasm
LosNiggaRO 1 month ago 3
Now, you see. All they need to do is play this music to the Imperial Legions and any Thalmor or Stormcloaks or Bandits that come at them will be left as fine paste on the floor.
For the Empire!
KhazardStormaxe 1 month ago 13
Listen to this, when you take a shit..
Makes it more epic
Heromuco 1 month ago in playlist THE ELDER SCROLLS OBLIVION SOUNDTRACKS
U LIKEZ CAPS LOCK?I LIKEZ TOO
DDMGM1 1 month ago
all i know is that Fallout3 has the best theme. :D
stormtrooper1296 1 month ago
its like a mix between lord of the rings soundtrack and pirates of the carribean
Sikroify 1 month ago 4
This music shits over every arrow in the knee joke
Akantorz12 1 month ago 22
Fuck everything in my life. At the moment I'm listening to this brilliant score and reliving those great days. Nothing in the world is going to disturb that.
Shaldier 1 month ago 7
@Shaldier You right there
DissocialPersonality 1 month ago
This theme tune shits all over the nonsense they call music we see barely dressed, over done girls and pretty boys trying to sing on tv...
voianhemsed 1 month ago 13
@voianhemsed Indeed, this is REAL music. They should play music like this on radio instead of lady gag gag and justin beaver and all that shit.
timewasteland 2 weeks ago
I used to violate the law, but then I took an arrow in the knee.
TheSpartan42 1 month ago 5
I used to play this game like you, but then I took a Skyrim to my knee
BlindToRevolution 1 month ago
This game ROcks !!!
Efiastos 1 month ago
I use to listen to this song...then i took a arrow to the knee
TheRazerazer 1 month ago
FUS RO DAH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
kacperz99 1 month ago 67
@kacperz99 YOL FUS FEIM
ezi0405 1 month ago
@kacperz99 FUSH!!!
NikoBellicSerbia30 1 month ago
@kacperz99 wrong video :/
coolkid350 3 weeks ago
@kacperz99 wrong game pal... wrong game..
joemoe175 2 weeks ago
My only regret is that I cant find a place to buy this soundtrack.
NonstopRam 1 month ago
@NonstopRam Do you play on PC? If so, all of the tracks are in your data folder in mp3 format
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 month ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 Are saying I can take it out like files in a folder?
NonstopRam 1 month ago
@NonstopRam Yeah exactly
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 month ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 It work, thanks!
NonstopRam 1 month ago
@NonstopRam No problem. Just one more advantage to being a PC gamer
AbsoluteZ3R0 1 month ago
I used to watch this video but then I took an arrow in the knee...
Wait, where am I?
JoJoJo151990 1 month ago
This soundtrack is more....nostalgic. As in OMG I MISS OBLIVION SO FUCKING MUCH WHEN I HAD NO RESPONSIBILITIES.
Nerevarineownsyou 2 months ago 109
@Nerevarineownsyou i redownloaded it on my pc. this music reminds me of hte soundtrack on ff7 ( imho) sounds soo much better turned up LOUD
yamahonkawazuki 1 month ago
@Nerevarineownsyou So true.
TourettesOrc 3 weeks ago
Both of you need to stfu or just pm each other. No reason leave a flame war on an awesome song.
Firedogmax 2 months ago
Wow, sand in your vagina. That sounds pretty damn painful!
bobdumbylumps 2 months ago
"I saw a Mudcrab a while back."
"Nasty creatures, I avoid them whenever I can."
bobdumbylumps 2 months ago 2
Could you guys just stop arguing please? The youtube comments are there for you to state your thoughts on the content of the video/soundtrack. Not to state opinion after opinion on why you think you're better than the other guy.
TheBiggamer64 2 months ago
@TheBiggamer64 Oh really? Can you find me a youtube rule book that states explicitly what the comments are for? If you actually read our conversations you would see that I was simply correcting a musical error on his part. It has nothing to do with "stating opinion after opinion on why we think we're better than the other".
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 There doesn't need to be a rulebook because if you were smart you wouldn't sit there wasting yoru time in the comments trying to prove a point that will only make you look like a prick in the end.
TheBiggamer64 2 months ago
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AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@TheBiggamer64 I don't believe my argument made me look like a prick, although if you do then that's fine. Being correct in an argument doesn't make you a prick, it makes you right. Secondly, what qualification do you have to judge whether an activity makes you smart or not? You're saying that because I use the comment section differently than YOU do that I must not be smart. Now who sounds like a prick? Sorry, maybe I'll try to be more like you so I can appear smart.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 nobody really cares to hear your words of knowledge because you're one of those people placed on this great, big, overpopulated world of ours for the rest of society to laugh at behind your back. Also, your mother was a hamster, and your father smelt of elderberries. <-- See, I can make assumptions, too! You've made my day so much better because I've seen the kind of serious, my-intellect-is-superior tryhards like you often, and you guys are the funniest bunch ever. John 3:16. 42.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav It's now even more obvious that you are not trolling. You're just mad. Our argument was over whether or not it made sense for someone to want to sing "dovahkiin" to this melody. I proved that it made perfect sense. That was our argument, and for some reason you got overly offended that I said you were a fool for not realizing that (which you are). The reason I butted into the argument is because YOU were actually the one who came off as the prick. You replied to someone who had
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I love how you think I'm mad haha. There isn't any argument between us other than this made-up one you have created for yourself in your head lol. My "argument", if you could even call it that, was with someone else and didn't include a third party. And when you did decide to butt in, you came out attempting to act like a bigoted, condescending genius, placing yourself on some pedestal, and considering I had stopped replying (which you could tell if you looked at my last commented)
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav written out the Skyrim lyrics and told them that you didn't understand because the two themes were completely different. Because your statement was completely wrong and even after the other guy explained in a friendly manner why you were incorrect you continued to insist that you were right, I felt the need to butt in. Originally I thought you were stupid for not realizing that you were wrong, but not I realize that you're just one of those guys who hates being wrong.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav Also, you're the one hurling insults now. What's the matter? Run out of an actual cogent argument? You know when you insult someone over the internet it doesn't do anything. The best you can do is either prove someone wrong or right or convince them with empirical evidence and reason. It's ironic that you keep acting like I'm the one who's overly invested, when your responses are the ones filled with insults. Clearly, I am more detached from this than you are
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 , I find it humorous. You keep tossing this argument concept out, but it's virtually nonexistent. And you don't even see what I'm doing, which I love. You think I'm hurling insults because I'm upset, and you can't even see what the purpose of it is, or the correlation. But as much fun as this has been, I'm getting a little tired of the Oblivion theme, so I think I'll cash in my check and let you be. Go ahead and try to insult my intelligence or lack thereof in your retort. Whatever
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 makes you feel like a champ or a winner. Keep throwing assumptions about me hating to be wrong; go ahead and feel like a hotshot. I'll make a plastic medal and mail it to you that reads "No. 1 Genius on Everything There is to Know About Anything". Just PM me your address. Or your social security number. Preferably the latter. Anyway, lighten up, Francis, take a chill pill or two, and stop looking so hard into things. I heard you can get cancer from that. Okay, I love you, adios!
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav I love how you continue to act as if this entire thing is just one big spectacle for your amusement, and how you ignore the initial argument that started it all. As I said before, it's a good way to snake yourself out of being wrong, but whatever. You appear the type of person who can't admit fault once you become emotionally invested. I said you were a fool for not realizing that the themes were the same, and you're the one who blew it up from there. You never had a reason to say
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav that I was being condescending or continue the argument any further. This entire argument should have ended once I demonstrated how the two themes were the same, but somehow you kept it going. That was the argument, and none of this other nonsense had any purpose. Let me ask you something: Why is that after my very first comment you replied with hostility despite being clearly wrong?
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
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AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav Also, you say "And when you did decide to butt in, you came out attempting to act like a bigoted, condescending genius, placing yourself on some pedestal" How is that even remotely true? Is it because I referred to my stunning academic history? Is it because I referred to some fantastic accomplishment or merit that I have that no one else does? Is it because I used really fancy vocabulary? Oh wait, it's because I called you a fool. Lol, I'm the one with "sand in my vagina"
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 You....just.....pwned. :D
ALiiVe024 2 months ago in playlist Epic game music
@AbsoluteZ3R0 now see what you've done? You're arguing with two guys at once. Negative youtube comments don't contribute to much if you ask me.
TheBiggamer64 2 months ago
@TheBiggamer64 Well believe it or not, you're the one who started the second argument. I don't know how much you read, but my first comment wasn't negative. It was in defense of somebody else who had posted the Skyrim lyrics on this video because the themes from both games are identical. Do you disagree? I don't understand, if you want an argument to end then you tell the person who's wrong that they're wrong and that does it.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
Not gonna lie...I like Oblivion's overworld a little more than Skyrims. The fields in Oblivion are so beautiful. I guess I'll need to play Skyrim a little longer. I also like this menu theme better.
TheBiggamer64 2 months ago
sounds simmilar to the pirates of the carribean
pbunny91 2 months ago
I haven't finished Skyrim yet, but I think I like Oblivion just a tiny bit more. It's soundtrack is definitely as hell of a lot better, too
juxmook 2 months ago
"What do you want Breton trash?!"
saxophoneftw 2 months ago
Seriously. Its Oblivion's theme. What has the Dovahkiin got to do with this?
... also ...
"Find him, and close shut the jaws of Oblivion!"
souledgar 2 months ago
Best game ever made, period. Nostalgia to the max. Oblivion, even with Skyrim, i miss you so much.
BloodShott22 2 months ago
That's too bad, I'd hope you'd choose to resist arrest
DEKYW 2 months ago
Stop! You violated the law! Pay the court a fine or serve your sentence, your stolen goods are now forfeit!
3vegemite 2 months ago 37
@3vegemite Then pay with your blood!!!
AncestorGabo 1 month ago
I can't stop singing "Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin!" on the main part
andraken 2 months ago 27
@andraken
Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin! Dovahkiin!
Dovahkkkkkkkkiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnnnnnnn!!!!!
AndyDobeson97 2 months ago
@andraken Which I don't understand, considering Oblivion's theme is completely different than Skyrim's...
KillswitchKav 2 months ago in playlist Oblivion soundtracks playlist
@KillswitchKav oh c'mon the main theme is the same from morrowind!
andraken 2 months ago
@andraken It is, yeah, but it's stronger and has a much faster tempo. Skyrim only has one part like them, though, and it's not the "Dovahkiin" part. I think it ends right before it actually lol.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav it's the part from 0:18, go on Skyrim video and put on 0:54
andraken 2 months ago
@andraken Those are two different parts, man. They're not the same at all. The part from the Skyrim theme that is like Oblivion's and Morrowind's is at 2:06 on the original theme video.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav no, listen better, the main theme is the same too. Not identical, but similar. The leit motiv is the same, as it is, for example, in Star Wars the Force Theme. Soule used the Force Theme in Bastila Shan Theme, even if it is not equal, there are the same notes.
andraken 2 months ago
@andraken And I'm telling you, the part from Skyrim that has the "Dovahkiin" chant in it isn't the same. You're thinking of a different part. There's a section in there similar to this and Morrowind, but it's not that one...
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav I've said you I'm not they are real the same, but similar. The motiv, even if changed, is the same... I don't know how to tell, that in music you don't have to express the same exact notes always to reprise a leit motiv. I can tell you another example from the Diablo 3 Theme, it has quite the same melody, but not with the same style. Skyrim is faster and there is a change on the last part of the "Dovahkiin" part. Btw I agree with you that the part you consider is much more similar
andraken 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav You're a fool. The themes are nearly identical, even the tone deaf have noticed. The theme starting at :17 is the exact same theme used in all of the games. The difference is that in Oblivion the theme ends at :24 and goes into some contrapuntal nonsense whereas in Morrowind and Skyrim the theme continues into new melodic material.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 They're not nearly identical in the part he was talking about, but thanks for playing. I like how you're throwing insults out trying to act all condescending like. Yep, that doesn't make you look like a total prick at all. Grow up, bud.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
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AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
I'm not trying to act condescending. To say that you don't understand why someone would want to sing the Skyrim lyrics to this theme is literally stupid because the themes are so blatantly similar. Granted, there are differences in melodic direction in the first two phrases, it's rhythmically and motivically identical. The actual melody is played in the third phrase of the theme by the trumpet so it's extremely obvious as to why someone would want to sing "dovahkiin" to this melody
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 "I'm not trying to act condescending, yet I call people fools, tone-deaf, and stupid." IYeah, okay, I totally believe you, bud. I'm also hereditarily half-deaf as well, so let's keep playing the ignorant game some more, shall we? Or maybe I can play that game as well and talk about how the in-depth analysis you've given into a video game song makes me wonder how you could ever get laid by anyone mildly attractive. In short, stop preaching to me in your shit-attitude and piss off.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav You're the one who needs to grow up if you think making a comment about about me getting laid somehow bolsters your argument. It's idiotic to say such a thing. Also, literally all of your favorites on youtube are related to video games and yet somehow you find it appropriate to make such a remark? I've barely gone in-depth at all, and even if I had, the fact that it's video game music doesn't make it any less worthy of analysis than something else. If anything, video game music
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I said I was playing the ignorant game, just like you have, so now we're on the same page. And yet, I only have 3 favorites, and that sure says what, that I barely come on Youtube? And if you bother to watch the first one, it has to do with a football joke, so if you're going to creep on me, let's do a better job, shall we? I also don't understand how the fact that video games+laid comment=inability to make said laid comment. Let's see that analysis now, shall we?
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
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AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav tends to be more complex and well-written than the vast majority of non-classical music, so I don't get your point. Just because you've been proven wrong doesn't mean you have to resort to ad hominem. It makes you look desperate and stupid
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 And if I don't agree with you and still think you're full of yourself, then you really have proven nothing to anyone but yourself. You're also over-analyzing my posts, considering I only made that comment to act exactly as you have been. Also, it's fun to see you get all defensive about it. "Bu-bu-bu, how does that help your argument? You're a liar and a meanie-face! Sham, sir, sham! Video games=You no get laid!" That's all I'm getting from ya', bud.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav If that's all you're getting from me then you're simply too stupid to understand my point. It's not a matter of agreeing or disagreeing, you are simply incorrect in stating that the themes are not the same. I don't know what kind of musical background you have but based off of your argument it seems like you have none. I'm sorry that me proving you wrong has made you so angry, but you just have to accept that you're not always right.
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 I keep replying due to the fact I find your seriousness over this quite humorous. It's like I have your complete focus as you try to tell me how wrong I am (And if you noticed, I stopped replying to the first person because he agreed that they're not identical but said they're similar, which I agreed with but figured it wasn't worth replying to). You're just fun to troll because you have the serious pants strapped on so tight it makes for a good laugh. Your insults are all
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav Furthermore, you have failed to demonstrate how I've been ignorant. Do you think that calling someone a fool for doing or saying something foolish is ignorant? Do you think that no one is tone deaf? I'm sorry, but I simply don't understand. Your impression of me consisted of ad hominem, which is a fallacy I never use in my arguments. You have now demonstrated twice that you pay little attention to detail, first in failing to realize that the themes are the same, and now in your
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 based on assumptions, and it provided for a good laugh at 3 in the morning, most likely because I was buzzed, but even now you're making me laugh. I'm also unsure of what I'm supposed to concede, because that would mean we're having an argument, when this whole time I thought I was mocking a tool. Do you by chance have autism? Negative ghost rider. The cow goes moo, and the answer is 42. Rawr. Now I can't wait to see how much sand in your vagina you get over this.
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@KillswitchKav I don't believe that you were trolling, although saying that you were is a very good way to snake your way out of being the loser in an argument. You can go ahead and act as if this entire argument is beneath you and that you never really cared, but if you read back, you were clearly the first to show hostility and anger. Nice try though
AbsoluteZ3R0 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0 What is this nonexistent argument you're producing from thin air? If there was any "argument", it was between me and the first guy I was talking to, but then you throw your hat in the ring for lord knows why andlabel it an argument because your life must be pretty boring and internet conflict is like an athletic event for you. I also enjoy how you can clearly see hostility and anger within typed words when you can't even see/hear the person you're talking to. Honestly, it's the
KillswitchKav 2 months ago
@AbsoluteZ3R0label funniest thing ever; you're trying to give me some sort of psychiatric analysis to explain what I must obviously be thinking, feeling, etc., when I'm sitting here smiling like an idiot because the amount of sand wedged in your vagina must be enormous for you to have commented first and to still give me your attention. And I believe that guy is calling you a prick because you come of