At Occupy Long Beach, Social Justice Means Taking From Those Who Have The Very Least.

[tlresh]

Just WHAT are the Occupy people trying to accomplish? Please explain it to me.

[PeacefulAnarchyNow]

We have many of our own cars pull into the fire lane to drop off food for our own occupants and, whether the food is meant for OLB or not, we serve the WHOLE park. Several of our own occupants have skipped meals so that our neighbors can get a warm meal. So before you go around making judgmental, biased youtube videos, come participate. Come talk to us. We have nothing to hide. I actually went to court with my homeless brother Taz this morning so don't act like we're heartless. SOLIDARITY, Jules

[PeacefulAnarchyNow]

Are you kidding me?! My name is Julie Hoang and I have been with Occupy LB since day one. I work at the welcome booth much of the time so I collect and sort donations first hand. Blankets, sleeping bags, if we have any, are handed out at 10pm every night. How can we help that the police bend the rules for us? That is faulty police discretion and, as a movement, we have decided to not smoke on the grass. Individuals make their own decision.

[sporatica1]

@PeacefulAnarchyNow The police bend the rules because you scream harassment every time you don't get your way. Your group whines about the homeless stressing your resources when most of those resources are DONATED. Are you incapable of feeding yourselves? Do you not have any blankets on your beds (Excluding Nate) Were you begging for food, blankets, water, coffee, & snacks b4 moving into the park? How did you eat b4 occupying? Who fed & watered you then? They're homeless, what's your excuse?

[phenomenalclassic93]

@sporatica1 so noticing the injustice and inequality in this country is whining???

[sporatica1]

@phenomenalclassic93 >> --- No, noticing injustice and inequality is not whining. Complaining about homeless people "stressing" your resources is. Especially when the occupy movement portends to be about "righting injustice and promoting equality" between those who have a great deal and those who have less - In the case of the occupy movement, it is fast becoming those who still have some, "whining" about sharing with those who have nothing left. You don't see the hypocrisy in that?

[phenomenalclassic93]

@sporatica1 we're not complaining about homeless people. if anything we're fighting for them. read peacefulanarchy's comment.

[sporatica1]

@phenomenalclassic93 >> How is invading their safe place fighting for them? How is placing them in constant view of the police fighting for them? How is treating them as if they're children, dolling out their own supplies fighting for them? How is taking up the best lawn area and shadiest part of the park fighting for them? Don't say... "now they can sleep there," becuase the majority have been sleeping elsewhere for years. And as soon as you leave, your special privileges leave with you.

[phenomenalclassic93]

@sporatica1 "How is taking up the best lawn area and shadiest part of the park fighting for them?" you've got to be kidding me if you're trying to make that into an issue.

but recognizing what you said, what in your perspective is fighting for them?? how do we get people to recognize these issues upfront?? because in your mind, this is more about taking up people's "personal" space rather than recognizing the issues that put people in poverty in the first place.

[sporatica1]

@phenomenalclassic93 >> No, in my mind many of you have a true goal - but you are outnumbered and the result is taking up space and expecting other people to provide your necessities while you do it. Long Beach began closing parks at 10pm many years ago. None of you cared until it affected something you wanted to do. And that's the way it goes. Poverty is not going to end in your lifetime or your children's lifetime. Choose your battles wisely or you're just spinning your wheels.

[sporatica1]

@PeacefulAnarchyNow

Julie, I texted your response to one of the homeless at Lincoln Park. Here is the reply.

"Only a couple of people have gotten any of the blankets-and our friend shadow gave us food one time and the lady said y r u giving them"

[Foltronics]

The only donations that we manage are the ones brought by supporters of the Occupy Long Beach movement but the homeless ARE the 99% so it is for us all - we share & conversate & laugh together. We NEVER have handled anything that came directly for the homeless. Or tried to eat food brought by others for anyone homeless. I DO NOT think it is right for there to be different laws for different people by any means. I have brought blankets from my home and shared them. Why are you being so biased?

[sporatica1]

@Foltronics

Biased? Your group was destroying public property. Do you do that at home? You are spoiled and selfish. You knew people stayed in that park for safety & you invaded their safe place. You eat in front them, and pat yourselves on the back for sharing a little or skipping a meal. You bask in the self-righteousness of fake sacrifice. Are you so obsessed with being a part of OWS that their humanity doesn't matter? You'd rather accuse me of planting them than take a walk across the park.

[sporatica1]

@Foltronics On 10-28 I took, jackets, blankets & food to the homeless. I arranged a time so they could gather the people who were most in need and help unload the truck. Within minutes, one of the OLB members walked over and quietly took a full case of Top Ramen and 6 large cans of Tuna. I asked at the info booth and was told by "sunrise" that it would be put on the table - It wasn't hers or his take for the table. At the very least, he could have identified as OLB and asked - not just take it.

[Foltronics]

I have talked to so many of the people in the park and have not seen these people...I can only speak for myself but I have never turned anyone away. I have shared blankets and food and smiles and hugs. I think you brought these people in from somewhere else or something b/c this is just strange...they dont look familiar at all and I have been there every night...if you ask most of the people that live in the park, I make food myself and bring it and make sure to share, We sleep & eat together.

[sporatica1]

@Foltronics Those people were there. They've been there. The fact that you have never seen them only proves that they are so insignificant to you that they might as well be invisible. I originally started from 1st and pacific on my way to your information canopy. Unlike you, I stopped and talked to these people. I asked their names. I asked if they had eaten and if they were cold at night. I commented that they must be stoked that OLB was sharing food with them. They set me straight.

[sporatica1]

@Foltronics There were so many complaints about your group that I spent over an hour listening to them, only to be interrupted by "their" shouts for your members to stop tearing city-posted signs off the light polls. The first impression of your group made a less than positive impression. Nobody in your group made any effort to stop the theft of city property by your members. Was that by consensus?