Haidong Kumdo forms 1-2

[enushisama]

HDGD is not a sword art that originates from ancient Korea. It was created recently by some persons. The founders testified as such at the Korean law court.

Why doesn't they use the traditional Korean sword “Hwando (環刀) ”? KRIGATA and SAGEO for thrusting into a belt are the features of Japanese sword. It is not the traditional Korean sword.

I can never find such old Korean sword or Korean soldier's photograph.

The traditional Korean sword was hung at the waist or the shoulder.

[danb1aa]

Haidong Gumdo is no where close to Kendo. Korea's sword culture has long historical roots, where as the samurai were horse archers only, until they fought the first war against the Khan, who brought Korean swordsmen with him. Now they have come out with Shinkendo, which takes it roots from Haidong Gumdo. All Martial Arts start somewhere and they all build upon each other. And myself being a 1st Dan in Gumdo, it has helped me out tremendously, no matter what the origin was.

[sakura0jp0aikidodesu]

Problems in Korean martial arts and how to find good Dojo

/watch?v=SlAvLiNb6rs

Verification of Haedong Gumdo History

/watch?v=J5ST2g-V0YU&feature=r­elated

i am sure that you will laugh for korean ridiculous arts and history.

[HDGDisnotfromkendo]

@ You can say whatever you want. Korea has longer sword history an Japan's. You can quote Muye Dobo Tongji all you want, proof is that swords have been forged in Korea since BC (which Japan has no BC swords) Swords we're forged in Korea without stop since ancient times, why are they going to have a tool & not know how to use it? Korea has not borrowed anything more from Japan than Japan has took (even stolen) from Korea

[enushisama]

@HDGDisnotfromkendo Furthermore detailed translation

It is only archery that has been transmitted to our country from ancient times. The sword and the spear only have tools. Those directions are not found even if it searches. does not test at the examination hall. Therefore,it stopped using sword and spear as weapons.

When samurai rushed, our soldiers were killed by all members, without the ability of extracting a sword from a sheath to also oppose with a spear.

[HDGDisnotfromkendo]

@enushisama Why don't you just admit that Japan received it's sword forging technology from Korea? Japan's oldest swords that are national treasures all came from Korea! By your definition-all martial arts are a fabrication. All martial arts are built on older martial arts and techniques before them. HDGD is no different. It looks nothing like any Japanese sword style.

[HDGDisnotfromkendo]

@enushisama Please show any Japanese swords made in BC times? I can show you many Korean swords from BC.

[enushisama]

@HDGDisnotfromkendo The B.C. sword in Korea. You should be proud of it.

It is good that takes pride in own country. I admire it as a neighbor.

However, HDGD is fabrication. I despise it as a neighbor. You should not be proud of it.

[HDGDisnotfromkendo]

본국검 本国劒 (Bon Guk Gum) From 무예도보통지(武藝圖譜通志): "It appears Wubei Zhi ( 武備志) written by Mao Yuanyi (茅元儀) acquired the book of sword combat from Chosun considering he compared Chosun sword methods with Dang Un's. It is obvious Chosun Had already developed the manual of Bon Guk Gum ( 본국검 本国劒) as they were compared to Japanese Ssangsu." Chinese Bubishi is comparing Chosun's methods with Japanese!

[enushisama]

@HDGDisnotfromkendo Mr. Mao is not comparing sword art. He compared the situation.

等韻dong un=Pronunciation of ancient Chinese characters. It was found in the west country.

尚書=Chinese ancient books.It was found in Japan.

Chinese lost things were found in foreign countries. Sword art is also the same.

He called the lost Chinese sword art. not called Korean sword art.

And Koreans did not practice them.

The Korean king said in the 16th century "no swordsman" "no sword art".

[BuffonSarutobi]

Korea and swordmanship

watch?v=uQ5zOKB3yzw

[wolfpack13000]

Why do you accuse the Korea martial arts of the imitation?

If an imitation copies brands such as Vuitton or Armani, and an imitation forges it with a genuine article, and a monkey  business, can you be angry?

All of you wanting to be the world martial arts do not be deceived.

Only Japan has the genuine samurai and martial arts.

[Silverstein1883]

If you want to learn FAKE kendo, just go to Korea.

[enushisama]

watch?v=iFBo-Zs_Dp8

[sakura0jp0aikidodesu]

you can't use "kumdo" that phenomenon mean that "Kendo" in korea.haidong gumdo is swindlers group,since they were sued for defamation from korea kumdo association,in consequence they loosed and paied damages payment.brazen out they have been deceiving many people.

[HenyGallagher]

@sakura0jp0aikidodesu

Kum - sword

do - way of

I am a friend of Grandmaster Seong Jeong Kim and I find your remarks offensive and idiotic.

Since I started in Martial Arts in 1973 I have trained with many great Master and GM Kim is definately one of them :)

[taihuu25go]

@HenyGallagher

1973?

haidon kumudo and daehan kumudo does not exist at that time in the world.

1985.

The Korean court announced judgment for Daehan kumudo and Haidon kumudo.

"You are liars"

This trial record was placed in the Korean martial arts magazine.

And the Korean government supports the lie now.

[HenyGallagher]

@taihuu25go

I think you have misunderstood my message ? I started martial arts in 1973 ie. Wadyryu Karate not Haedong Kumdo LOL :D

I also hold the rank of Yondan in Ju Jitsu :) so of course I have great respect for Japanese Martial Arts as well as for Grandmaster Kim, a great human being and high level Martial Artist

[taihuu25go]

@HenyGallagher

For a Korean, martial arts and the religion are business.

And, in the Korean history, the labor to sweat was vulgar. (including martial arts) Grandmaster Kim, a great human?

Haidong Kumudo uses Japanese traditional clothes and Japanese traditional tool.

And the Korean appeals to the world for the false history of HaidonKumudo as Korean traditional martial arts in HaidonKumudo.

If Kim is true Great human, Kim should impeach a lie of HaidonKumudo.

[taihuu25go]

@HenyGallagher

For a Korean, martial arts and the religion are business.

And, in the Korean history, the labor to sweat was vulgar. (including martial arts) Grandmaster Kim, a great human?

Haidong Kumudo uses Japanese traditional clothes and Japanese traditional tool.

And the Korean appeals to the world for the false history of HaidonKumudo as Korean traditional martial arts in HaidonKumudo.

If Kim is true Great human, Kim should impeach a lie of HaidonKumudo.

[taihuu25go]

@HenyGallagher

When I look from a Japanese sense, Haedong Kumdo is Tate.

watch?v=zB2VuO_AIg8

Therefore, in Japan, dojo of Haedong Kumdo does not exist.

[BuffonSarutobi]

@taihuu25go

That's true.

Korean martial artists explain 2 different things about the history. They say" it's Korean traditional" to ignorants but they never say the same thing in Japan and China because the people know old Korea.

[pomminsu]

Wow,you racists are everywhere. @kiminlosangeles Research hyeongchunsa museum, you can get link to it from swordsofkorea com Look at the relics in their possession and look at admiral Yi Sun Shin's swords in 1594 IN KOREA. Korea has long history of this style of sword. Also William Griffis was a japophile that never set foot in Korea, his writings are worthless.

[WondrousJapanForever]

“Corea has no Samurai. She lacks what Japan has always had - a cultured body of men, superbly trained in both mind and body, the soldier and scholar in one, who held to a high ideal of loyalty, patriotism, and sacrifice for country. “

(William Elliot Griffis, Corea, Hermit Nation, 1894)

watch?v=PVMwXztivL0

[koisan1000]

Why do you wear a Japanese life jacket?

I introduce a Japanese tradition to wind in Korea, and does Korea appeal to me for a colony of Japan?

I delicately steal the Kung Fu.

[KimInLosAngeles]

@centraltheorem2076 & other idiots

*There are other types of sword fighting skills besides Haidonggumdo in Korea.

*1 thing Haidonggundo immitating from Japanese is their uniform.

*Turkish & some Middle Eastern tribes had curved swords just like Japanese.

*Chinese & Korean styles are for fighting multiple enemies in surrounding environment. Japanese style is 1-to-1.

*Chinese sword masters do not say Koreans copied theirs even though the style is similar, so JAPANESE SHOULD SHUT THE FUCK UP!

[chrisX991]

hey can you tell me what equipment do i need for lessons?

[michaelsama28]

I just don't get it. Looks more like dance than combat.

[marcel1709]

extremely fail

[bandcministry]

the amount of ethnocentricity displayed in these posts is saddening. practice the art that you love.  respect the arts that you don't practice.

[panda4ever12]

wtf for those ppl who don't know, GUMDO ORIGINATED IN KOREA. some people think it's japanese, but NO - it's Korean, so if anyone thinks that "korean style is copied off of japanese" well they're WRONG - it originated in Korea, for the last freaking time. /rant

[hottexasweiner]

I noticed all the forms are different at different schools. Slight changes.

[mominaporongon]

this martial art is from the mountains of korea assholes! im practicing this martial art and is pretty cool!

[Aektan]

from the mountains assholes of korea? that must be... something unique :3

[mominaporongon]

srry for bad tyiping i was using an old computer and the "," dont work on that computer

[slamurai]

It's good that you want to fight ignorance and whatnot, but you should probably refrain from insulting people. It's only going to give off the impression that HDGD stylists are impulsive and condescending.

[mominaporongon]

yeah, but is annoying to see the people that doesnt know nothing.

and telling this is a bad martial art or korea is copying japan

[KimInLosAngeles]

Japanese should stop spreading lies that Koreans are copying Japanese style.

Chinese & Korean styles are focused to fight SEVERAL enemies in surrounding environment.

Japanese style is more focused on ONE on ONE.

Basic strategies of Korean & Japanese are DIFFERENT.

Europeans don't accuse other Europeans of copying their style of fencing, archery, etc.

Chinese DON'T even accuse Koreans of copying their style.

Only Japanese accuse Koreans of copying their style.

LOL

[centraltheorem2076]

@KimInLosAngeles Why does he use samurai sword? If he is proud of Korean culture, he should use Korean tradiaional sword. Haidong is not a historical existence. It was created recently by copying kendo. Archery was the only martial art trained by Korean soldiers. This fact is recorded in Muye Dobo Tingji. Koreans are never respected by Japanese while they mimic Japanese.

[KimInLosAngeles]

@centraltheorem2076

Because the shape of the sword is curved, you can't say the sword is Japanese.

Turkish swords are curved, too.

Besides, Haidonggumdo, there are SEVERAL styles/types of sword fighting arts in Korea.

They wear traditional Korean warrior clothes when they practice their style.

I do hate the fact Haidong clothes are similar to Japanese.

[centraltheorem2076]

@KimInLosAngeles I can agree with you that there are many curved swords in the world. But, unfortunately, Korean swords created in modern era were copy swords by imitating Japanese katana. Korean curvarture swords don't look like samurai sword or katana. First, you should reproduce the original shape of Korean curved sword. Second, Korean original swords are straight and double-edged like Chinese ones because Koreans had preferentially used Chinese things because of sinocentrism.

[centraltheorem2076]

@KimInLosAngeles Why do Koreans mimic Japanese in spite that they hate Japan? Koreans are respected by Japanese and Chinese when they value Korean and neighbors' cultures. Please be aware of Korean original and beautiful cultures. There is no historical evidence that your ancestors developed an martial art except archery, because, unfortunately, Korea had belonged to China and Mongol for a long time, but Korean people had lived peacefully. Your ancestors didnot need martial arts.

[mi2224]

Is this Korean traditional martial arts? HaHa

please watch?v=qxfx8P73oi0&feature

I wait to enjoy a wretched excuse of stupid korean.

[0010110100]

Good form. The 2nd has a few less moves the way i learnt it. And yes this is a lot older than kendo, the japanese based there style from korean sword art. Its all in books look it up.

[SchoolhouseTechno]

The hate between all of the asian countries is crazy...

I mean I sort of get it...I think everyone would be better it everyone dropped it...but I don't think anyone would let that happen.

[takahide1973]

this video is funny. yes gosling3 is right. ok if korean created kumdo and bushido. then can you find spirit of bushido in korean life style?

[Gosling3]

This is fake Kendo. Korea do not have history of swordmanship. Just fake copy of Japanese kendo. They only started in 1950s. See the influence of flashy movie influence, Just a joke.

[arnoldhwang]

Umm korean has a history of swordsmanship. It's just that the Japanese destroyed many of the Korean swords that they had, and probably didn't allow them to practice their swordsmanship.

[GARETHQUAILE]

hey dickhead haidong gumdo is alot older than kendo id u check the history u a dick head

[4thDan]

Take a look at a little tome called the "Muye Dobo Tongji"! It's the manual for Korean weapons that was first written in 1790. Korea has had sword arts for a LOOOOONG time before the 1950's, my friend.

[magic2magic]

A lot of the famous swords makers were kidnapped into japanese slavery. Japanese killed a lot of the masters during the occupation and made korean martial arts illegal. The Korean martial sword fighting were deemed low lifes by ruling Korean classes, thus it stopped development during the Japanese Shogun era, but the Koreans were more advanced at that time. Great deal of Korean arts were killed off by the japanese during the WWII unfortunately. Read true history and not Japanese's propaganda

[lordofthelight0416]

@Gosling3 The Koreans actually were making swords before the Japanese, and even helped the Japanese in learning forging techniques. Though they didn't make the Katana. And besides, from the sounds of it, you don't know alot about Kumdo. Despite the strong japanese influence it's just as valid a martial art. If your pissed off, be mad at the Koreans who try to claim the Japanese origins, but the art itself is just an inspired adaptation.

[maradrew]

jumong

[kumdokid]

ive been doing haedong kumdo (haidong gumdo) for almost 4 years now and the forms are constantly changing, it has only been the past couple of years that kukjae haidong gumdo (international) has decided to fuse all the styles together...i now study the international and official forms...this video would have been a brilliant instructional tool however if u wish to study haidong gumdo properly find a dojang that teaches the modern forms :) ps...good job with the video very interesting to watch

[SuperNinja8000]

I like number 2... maybe its because am used to the Japanese Swordsmanship? Number 1 is easy than hell.

[tomateradio]

I don't think you're doing kihabs in a right way. Also, you skip some defense stances on the second form. My teacher is very keen on those.

[Ilporko]

In the ssang-su yi- bon (second form) the jump seems to be a moving kind, ie people end up in a different spot to their starting position. At my dojang we have to land more or less where we started, but facing backwards. Other than that, both of them seem the same-apart from the end of the yi-bon, where we twirl the mokgum once and stab with it.

[ERiiK98]

ffffffffffffuuck

that was awesome!

[XD4133]

Ive done Haidong gumdo for almost 2 years now and i have a problem with your ending of 1 Your actually suppose to stab after ther horizontal cut. And I can't tell by the poor graphics but im pretty sure your blocking could better cover and shield your head. Also why are you moving so slow and robotic?

[midnightsamadhi]

This is not me preforming this form. I will eventualy post myself on here, I just posted these to get some forms available on youtube. This is a korean man going slow so that there can be a ref video...

[edoggiedog]

I live in Korea and study Haidong also. The forms have changed slightly so don't worry if yours is a little different. Also, the speed can vary...here he is going slow so one can see the postures and study the correct moves. Feel free to perform your gumbup much faster once you know the correct moves.

[KrowandNimbus182]

i can do both those. i do have a little problem with the end on number two. ive been doing haidong gumbo for 2 months

[SuperNinja8000]

Have you done the new one yet? Its little easier. Of number 2?

[TC2800]

dude thats awsome i just joined haidong gumdo a fer days ago and those r my formed bro thats awsome!