i remember when kirby and jiggly whit the multiplejump, in the 64 , the creazy combos of jiggly in melee , but now MK and Pit are the big mistake of brawl roster just my opinion but they have to be banned , yes you can kill them but they can kill you whitout effort thats the point of the priority the playable chars have to be balanced just my opinion anyway , big respect for the brawl + developers really your saving this new episode of smash
well he isent a raper char but thinking on brawl+ he have more than just multi-jumps you understand? may it sounds like if i was talking of the "best" chars to be banned but no, i was talking about chars that are way different from the rest of the cars, so different that inclusive they can fly? and pit can chase you at the bottom of the screen and step on your head and comback to the stage, chek the mlg video submission , basiccaly this chars can recover from anywhere thats what im talking about
you go and try to use a pit against a top tier tournament player in reg brawl or brawl+ and see if pit's recovery keeps them from raping you. If anything you should have said ROB since his recovery is less punishable, but even he's not ban material. lol at you sir.
We DO know he is stupid good. We're not retarded. Nerfing him into a oblivion would be bad because then MK loses his flavor and feels less than everyone else. It's silly. We DO want to get rid of his invinc on the grounded Shuttle Loop and tone down his Dtilt some more.
We DO know why he is broken and we would LOVE to do things like shorten his range and shit but then he feels like shit. And that's not doing a service to those who main MK. It'd be like nerfing Snake's range even though he
isn't as good as he was before. That's hurting Snake and doing something Snake mains wouldn't want. Nerfing MK in his transcendent priority, range, damage, and comboability would ALL be great things to do but guess what? That's too many nerfs on one character who now probably has legit counterpicks on him. Wario is obviously way better now so I wouldn't be surprised if he magically became a legit MK counter.
Point is, nerfing him any further will make people NEVER want to play him.
they nerfed the fair's range, nerfed dair trajectory, nerfed shuttle loop knockback, nerfed nair knockback...
they basically nerfed every single one of MK's amazing moves...and he's still broken.
It tells you that his moveset was created purely to wreck anything resembling balance in this game. You can nerf him, but more or less they would have to destroy him as a character, otherwise trying to maintain his playstyle while nerfing him will be a very difficult challenge;also need to nerf throws
Actually, we haven't touched Nair. We left Nair alone because he needs a quick killing move since Dsmash and Shuttle Loop were both nerfed in KB (at least both shouldn't kill with DI until about 160%-180%).
And yes, exactly, nerfing him any further at this point ruins him as a character.
This match doesn't make it look like to me, that, MK is broken. Sheik was able to keep up really well at the beginning. It was right when Omni predicted Sheik's tether did she start to lose her momentum.
Ninjalink even feels that MK doesn't need anymore nerfs and is fine right now.
That isn't to say that Omni's MK is the best MK ever. Because it isn't, but, at least it shows you that anyone who picks up MK in Brawl+ may not necessarily rape their opponent as they would proceed to do so in vBrawl.
Omni could very well be the best MK+ right now. Who else plays MK+? Blackanese is the only other one I know of, and I MMed him and I can say that Omni's is definitely better. He's just a smarter and more patient (Omni's biggest strength in fact) player.
KingAce, Canada's best Metaknight plays MK+ and is most definitely better than Omni. He has consistently beaten HolyNightmare (Best Rob Main) in vBrawl and his MK domination continues in Brawl+
JCaesar have the point... No one plays MK in Brawl +... IMO it would be interestin g if someone else start to use MK in this game... Mabe someone of the top MK of Brawl.
Wth, which version of Brawl + is this? Does Sheik really wavedash at 0.25?
Andy20019 2 years ago
i remember when kirby and jiggly whit the multiplejump, in the 64 , the creazy combos of jiggly in melee , but now MK and Pit are the big mistake of brawl roster just my opinion but they have to be banned , yes you can kill them but they can kill you whitout effort thats the point of the priority the playable chars have to be balanced just my opinion anyway , big respect for the brawl + developers really your saving this new episode of smash
Ralkila 2 years ago
Pit!?!?!? are you crazy? xD he sucks ASS BALLS
LordKombox 2 years ago
well he isent a raper char but thinking on brawl+ he have more than just multi-jumps you understand? may it sounds like if i was talking of the "best" chars to be banned but no, i was talking about chars that are way different from the rest of the cars, so different that inclusive they can fly? and pit can chase you at the bottom of the screen and step on your head and comback to the stage, chek the mlg video submission , basiccaly this chars can recover from anywhere thats what im talking about
Ralkila 2 years ago
you go and try to use a pit against a top tier tournament player in reg brawl or brawl+ and see if pit's recovery keeps them from raping you. If anything you should have said ROB since his recovery is less punishable, but even he's not ban material. lol at you sir.
juannunez3000 2 years ago
Lol.
BooMansion 2 years ago
You're also forgetting that we nerfed Shuttle Loop from killing so early and nerfed his Fair hitbox. (Doesn't have as much range now).
smk2 2 years ago
They nerfed meta into oblivion and he's still broken.
AggressionSsbb 2 years ago
Lol they nerfed only the tornado and the Dsmash.. They obviously don't know that MK is broken also for other reasons...
KamuiRyu88 2 years ago
We DO know he is stupid good. We're not retarded. Nerfing him into a oblivion would be bad because then MK loses his flavor and feels less than everyone else. It's silly. We DO want to get rid of his invinc on the grounded Shuttle Loop and tone down his Dtilt some more.
We DO know why he is broken and we would LOVE to do things like shorten his range and shit but then he feels like shit. And that's not doing a service to those who main MK. It'd be like nerfing Snake's range even though he
smk2 2 years ago
isn't as good as he was before. That's hurting Snake and doing something Snake mains wouldn't want. Nerfing MK in his transcendent priority, range, damage, and comboability would ALL be great things to do but guess what? That's too many nerfs on one character who now probably has legit counterpicks on him. Wario is obviously way better now so I wouldn't be surprised if he magically became a legit MK counter.
Point is, nerfing him any further will make people NEVER want to play him.
smk2 2 years ago
they nerfed the fair's range, nerfed dair trajectory, nerfed shuttle loop knockback, nerfed nair knockback...
they basically nerfed every single one of MK's amazing moves...and he's still broken.
It tells you that his moveset was created purely to wreck anything resembling balance in this game. You can nerf him, but more or less they would have to destroy him as a character, otherwise trying to maintain his playstyle while nerfing him will be a very difficult challenge;also need to nerf throws
TESvideos 2 years ago
Actually, we haven't touched Nair. We left Nair alone because he needs a quick killing move since Dsmash and Shuttle Loop were both nerfed in KB (at least both shouldn't kill with DI until about 160%-180%).
And yes, exactly, nerfing him any further at this point ruins him as a character.
smk2 2 years ago
didnt you tell me you couldnt change hitboxes a month ago? its only a matter of time b4 SSE stages are multiplayer ones
AggressionSsbb 2 years ago
Sorry for my ignorance... I've tought they only nerfed tornado, Dsmash and a few areals...
Btw MK Forward and Down tilts are one of the problems IMO...
KamuiRyu88 2 years ago
This match doesn't make it look like to me, that, MK is broken. Sheik was able to keep up really well at the beginning. It was right when Omni predicted Sheik's tether did she start to lose her momentum.
Ninjalink even feels that MK doesn't need anymore nerfs and is fine right now.
smk2 2 years ago
That isn't to say that Omni's MK is the best MK ever. Because it isn't, but, at least it shows you that anyone who picks up MK in Brawl+ may not necessarily rape their opponent as they would proceed to do so in vBrawl.
smk2 2 years ago
Omni could very well be the best MK+ right now. Who else plays MK+? Blackanese is the only other one I know of, and I MMed him and I can say that Omni's is definitely better. He's just a smarter and more patient (Omni's biggest strength in fact) player.
JCaesar007 2 years ago
KingAce, Canada's best Metaknight plays MK+ and is most definitely better than Omni. He has consistently beaten HolyNightmare (Best Rob Main) in vBrawl and his MK domination continues in Brawl+
Sanuzi 2 years ago
It's possible, but Omni doesn't play Brawl+. And beating a ROB with MK is not an accomplishment haha.
JCaesar007 2 years ago
JCaesar have the point... No one plays MK in Brawl +... IMO it would be interestin g if someone else start to use MK in this game... Mabe someone of the top MK of Brawl.
KamuiRyu88 2 years ago