@whatyouchating the UK and the US are far different in a number of ways which make comparing them a fools task. the question is not which country has more homicides but did the gun laws reduce the number of homicides and for the UK the answer in NO!!! also the UK has 2 times the number of violent crimes and nearly 4 times the number of rapes than the US.
"You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talking... you talking to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? OK."
Funny comments on here. Yes it took too long for armed police to take him out. But this happens very rarely and coul have happend with a knife. Police with guns is a very bad idea, America is a living case study for this, it just takes it to the next level.
@ravingjunkey there very out of date if i recall correctly. Interestingly the murder rate in the UK is actually surprisingly high. I guess if you don't have a gun and want to kill some one you would just stab them or find some other way to do it.
@ChloeAprilWood95 That would only work if you banned all gun even from the police and army and even any way of making guns. Sadly this is never going to happen. So the problem you get is that the fewer people have guns the greater the power they have. As in this instance where everyone even the police where defenceless to stop this madman.
Including farmers who rely on them for pest contol!! Even if a "honest" person is in control of a gun who is to say this wont happen again (i'm sure Dereck was once a honest person according to some of his friends during interviews??) Hands are tied on this one and I doubt anything else can be done.
I can't believe the Police or any concerned citizen were incapable to find, locate and/or stop the driver in the time he took to drive around and kill so many innocent people. Police in England nee to be armed and need to be more effective, it is embarrassing to think they did not do anything, gladly this idiot took his own life or he could have killed more innocent people before Police ever found him.
It's another blatant false flag attack by MI6 as an excuse to impose more gun laws and disarm the population in preparation for martial law and the creation of a Global police state.
He turned the gun on himself in a 'remote forested area' How convenient!
I am very sorry for the victims' families, for the shock, anger and grief they must be feeling. When it happens to you, it is like the whole world stops and nothing else exists and yet life goes on. Losing someone you love suddenly, esp. as a youth, as I was, was an amplified shock, and yet children lose parents every day. When it is you, though, that is cold comfort. I think of that each time there is a tragedy, whatever the scale or territory.
@pakistanfatima By you saying "America" do you mean the United States? or the whole "America" continent? I am guessing you mean the United States Of America, need to specify.
@pakistanfatima fuck of it dosnt matter how many times a day it happens and where its the fact that innocent people are losing their lives of course its going to be shocking!!!!!!!!!!!
goes to show , that it doesn't matter how tightly you control firearm laws if people want to kill people they will ! full stop ! you need too make people happy not control them and suffocate them .
@Metaldude2084 hey man, i am white but my penis is not small! and YES i hate white people! i don't know why i am white! i have no idea! the fac is that the world has gone mad!
@zorilaz lol that wasnt an attack on white people that was an attack on just that person, Man Im not a Racist I think every Race is Fucked up But I dont believe Banning guns, people are gonna be psycho with a gun or knife hell even household cleaning items can create a bomb etc, if everyone had a gun...this dude wouldnt of killed so many people, Personally I have a gun, Do i go around shooting people that piss me off? NO! i Hope I never have to use it but i carry it around for PROTECTION!
@Metaldude2084 i feel u man , i know what u're talking about! like i said...and like u said...man black, white...green..blue man...the world has gone mad! there are white men stupid enough to do something like that guy and black men stupid enough as well! but like i said...from all men i don't like the white ones ..i think they are either stupid,mad or mean! in uk i get along very nice with black men! i have more to talk about with black men! u are more natural! this is the truth
@arbitrage With one possible exception in mass killing history, I cannot think of anyone doing this except for angry white males. So it is laughable that some piece of shit racist like you tries to pawn this off on "niggers & spics."
lol Finally Something Exciting in the U.K lol see? Not every country is Boring, Anyways Thats what happens when you take guns away from law abiding citizens, This would of happened in L.A (not including schools or banks where people cant carry guns) Fucker would of just killed like 3 or 4 people on the streets before some random dude took him down without having to wait for the Police like God dammed Sheep. Guns Don't Kill People, Idiots Kill People, if it wasn't a gun it would of been a knife!
Well you've done it now. You've provided another example for USA's NRA to arm everyone to the teeth, so that when a person goes bonkers, those that are about to be bonkered can protect themselves. Condolences to families & friends.
@BertGriffin88 What exactly is wrong with protecting yourself or your family? You can pass all the gun laws you want but the last time I checked, the outlaws don't really care about gun laws. We need MORE guns, NOT less and start giving them to the right fucking people. You think some asshole is gonna pull a gun in a place if he knows everyone in there is packing heat? Look how well having thousands of nuclear missles has worked over the decades at deterring nuclear war.
mustve seen the future and decided he didnt want to stick around for the alien invasion, ww3 , holocaust 2, and the microchiping? .... obama did it! =/
@DoctorOblivion1 this is what happens when 1 man has a gun not every1..how many school shootings has there been in US compared UK..how many cops are gunned down in the US each year compared to UK.. gun crime in USA = out of control gun crime in UK is not out of control has never been out of control..if you want to brake the law sure u can get a gun..but thats 1% prob less in the UK.
@andycats No, if EVERYONE had a gun there would be far less gun violence. Give each and every-law-abiding-able-bodied-mother-fucker a .50 cal, 15 round handgun and you would see almost no gun violence after the first year or so. It's just like nuclear missles. No one wants to use them because they know it means they will die too. The math is simple.
@CastAirLead Some of the places in the U.S. that have the lowest rates of gun crimes are those places where everyone carries a gun. Places where guns are used in daily life because of wild animals. If you go into a bank thinking of pulling an armed robbery and you see everyone in there with a sidearm on, are you seriously going to pull your piece out and demand money? No.
"Homicide rates tend to be related to firearm ownership levels. Everything else being equal, a reduction in the percentage of households owning firearms should occasion a drop in the homicide rate".
Evidence to the Cullen Inquiry 1996: Thomas Gabor, Professor of Criminology - University of Ottawa
Maybe one or two small towns it works. But seeing as you have the equivilant of a civil war constantly in your country because of gun crime and availability.
@CastAirLead Acctually that is not correct. The number of gun deaths goes down but the overall murder rate does not. Studies with an agenda generally focus on gun deaths and only show 1 side of a pattern It is very easy to mislead people into believing they effect rates. The bulk of the literature on the subject shows little to no effect on index crime rates. The big change is in patterns shifting methods and victimized populations. You have to look at the body of literature, not just 1 study
@CastAirLead There is not 1 city in the US that has had murder rates go up with laxed carry laws. The murder rate has also not gone down as much as some like to say(sorry gun lovers) Law abiding people don't kill and they seldom get killed. The majority of people that get murdered are felons themselves that know the perp. What has changed is a drastic drop in assaults on inocent strangers with a small reduction in murder. The criminals are now scared to go after people they dont know.
@CastAirLead The equivalent of a civil war? You've never been to the States have you? Lol. I live in Maine and you can probably count the number of people who don't own firearms on one hand. Especially the further north you go. Yet, Maine has one of the lowest gun crime rates (and murder rates) in the nation. Civil War. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
@CastAirLead after the handgun ban in the UK in 1997, gun crime has not dropped at all, neither has overall crime, so why should we enact laws that just don't work, just like drugs, there still illegal, but they still get smuggled in, and people get the Easily.
theres a guy at work that sometimes i think is going to go on a killing spree has well. Never talks to anyone unless its work related and during lunch sits in the canteen staring at walls for a whole hour.
Look at how effective England's gun control is!
esh325 7 months ago
@whatyouchating the UK and the US are far different in a number of ways which make comparing them a fools task. the question is not which country has more homicides but did the gun laws reduce the number of homicides and for the UK the answer in NO!!! also the UK has 2 times the number of violent crimes and nearly 4 times the number of rapes than the US.
ABGAN100 9 months ago
"You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? You talkin' to me? Then who the hell else are you talking... you talking to me? Well I'm the only one here. Who the fuck do you think you're talking to? Oh yeah? OK."
meric2 9 months ago
Funny comments on here. Yes it took too long for armed police to take him out. But this happens very rarely and coul have happend with a knife. Police with guns is a very bad idea, America is a living case study for this, it just takes it to the next level.
CastAirLead 1 year ago
@CastAirLead UK is almost the only country in the world where cops go around unarmed...
CzechShooter 1 year ago 2
@CzechShooter Just shows how out of control modern society is.
CastAirLead 1 year ago
@jojostudrock 0.2 of 100,000 people die DUE TO FIREARMS IN THE UK. 3.98 is American result. Yes it sowkring dickface
ravingjunkey 1 year ago
@ravingjunkey there very out of date if i recall correctly. Interestingly the murder rate in the UK is actually surprisingly high. I guess if you don't have a gun and want to kill some one you would just stab them or find some other way to do it.
SomethingNewEveryDay 1 year ago
OUTLAW TAXI DRIVERS IN THE UK! THIS WILL NEVER HAPPEN AGAIN!
Rucksack1944 1 year ago
Nobody would need to own a gun even for self deffence is guns were banned completely
ChloeAprilWood95 1 year ago
@ChloeAprilWood95 That would only work if you banned all gun even from the police and army and even any way of making guns. Sadly this is never going to happen. So the problem you get is that the fewer people have guns the greater the power they have. As in this instance where everyone even the police where defenceless to stop this madman.
SomethingNewEveryDay 1 year ago
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hardman476 1 year ago
@ChloeAprilWood95
Right; because criminals don't find ways to get guns anyways right?
Banning guns only hurts the honest citizens.
Charles2337 1 year ago
@Charles2337
Including farmers who rely on them for pest contol!! Even if a "honest" person is in control of a gun who is to say this wont happen again (i'm sure Dereck was once a honest person according to some of his friends during interviews??) Hands are tied on this one and I doubt anything else can be done.
FireUpTheQuattro100 1 year ago
It's too bad no one could shoot back with personal defense weapons. If you live in England you are a target.
Tardisius 1 year ago
@jojostudrock He used a shotgun and a long range rifle to kill people with, both are legal to own in Britain. Its only handguns which are banned.
plaidzinc 1 year ago
@plaidzinc thats true mate ,but i would,nt wanna live in a britain full of guns,it,d be bloodbath
davehoward22 1 year ago
@plaidzinc since when is a .22 rifle a long range rifle??
hardman476 1 year ago
I can't believe the Police or any concerned citizen were incapable to find, locate and/or stop the driver in the time he took to drive around and kill so many innocent people. Police in England nee to be armed and need to be more effective, it is embarrassing to think they did not do anything, gladly this idiot took his own life or he could have killed more innocent people before Police ever found him.
8jordangutierrez8 1 year ago
It's another blatant false flag attack by MI6 as an excuse to impose more gun laws and disarm the population in preparation for martial law and the creation of a Global police state.
He turned the gun on himself in a 'remote forested area' How convenient!
IndrasBlade77 1 year ago
I am very sorry for the victims' families, for the shock, anger and grief they must be feeling. When it happens to you, it is like the whole world stops and nothing else exists and yet life goes on. Losing someone you love suddenly, esp. as a youth, as I was, was an amplified shock, and yet children lose parents every day. When it is you, though, that is cold comfort. I think of that each time there is a tragedy, whatever the scale or territory.
autisticaplanet 1 year ago
boo hoo this happens once a week in america and three times a day in the middle east
pakistanfatima 1 year ago
@pakistanfatima By you saying "America" do you mean the United States? or the whole "America" continent? I am guessing you mean the United States Of America, need to specify.
8jordangutierrez8 1 year ago
@pakistanfatima fuck of it dosnt matter how many times a day it happens and where its the fact that innocent people are losing their lives of course its going to be shocking!!!!!!!!!!!
OTHsmallvillefan 1 year ago
boo hoo this happens once a week in america and three times a day in the middle east
pakistanfatima 1 year ago
boo hoo this happens once a week in america and three times a day in the middle east
pakistanfatima 1 year ago
boo hoo this happens once a week in america and twice a day in the middle east
pakistanfatima 1 year ago
@arbitrage ...and if you are Chinese it would be best to keep you away from young school aged children when you have sharp objects in your hand.
gregwi562 1 year ago
@arbitrage It does not matter what color you are because you are first and foremost extremely ignorant and a piece of shit.
gregwi562 1 year ago
goes to show , that it doesn't matter how tightly you control firearm laws if people want to kill people they will ! full stop ! you need too make people happy not control them and suffocate them .
pocketlife 1 year ago
@arbitrage haha your just pissed cause your Penis is small
Metaldude2084 1 year ago
@Metaldude2084 hey man, i am white but my penis is not small! and YES i hate white people! i don't know why i am white! i have no idea! the fac is that the world has gone mad!
zorilaz 1 year ago
@zorilaz lol that wasnt an attack on white people that was an attack on just that person, Man Im not a Racist I think every Race is Fucked up But I dont believe Banning guns, people are gonna be psycho with a gun or knife hell even household cleaning items can create a bomb etc, if everyone had a gun...this dude wouldnt of killed so many people, Personally I have a gun, Do i go around shooting people that piss me off? NO! i Hope I never have to use it but i carry it around for PROTECTION!
Metaldude2084 1 year ago
@Metaldude2084 i feel u man , i know what u're talking about! like i said...and like u said...man black, white...green..blue man...the world has gone mad! there are white men stupid enough to do something like that guy and black men stupid enough as well! but like i said...from all men i don't like the white ones ..i think they are either stupid,mad or mean! in uk i get along very nice with black men! i have more to talk about with black men! u are more natural! this is the truth
zorilaz 1 year ago
but please...don't jump to conclusions...yes indeed i like women! :))))
zorilaz 1 year ago
@zorilaz BTw Im of Mexican Decent ^^
Metaldude2084 1 year ago
@arbitrage With one possible exception in mass killing history, I cannot think of anyone doing this except for angry white males. So it is laughable that some piece of shit racist like you tries to pawn this off on "niggers & spics."
But have at it angry white boy.
gregwi562 1 year ago
USA, UK, GERMANY.... go go go !!!! u can do more! next time bring 300 men and shoot the whole city down!
zorilaz 1 year ago
Wow, UK's gun ban really works.
n310ea 1 year ago
@n310ea its very rare
relmmih6 1 year ago
lol Finally Something Exciting in the U.K lol see? Not every country is Boring, Anyways Thats what happens when you take guns away from law abiding citizens, This would of happened in L.A (not including schools or banks where people cant carry guns) Fucker would of just killed like 3 or 4 people on the streets before some random dude took him down without having to wait for the Police like God dammed Sheep. Guns Don't Kill People, Idiots Kill People, if it wasn't a gun it would of been a knife!
Metaldude2084 1 year ago
@arbitrage yeah...Dont forget about Chinks too lol
Metaldude2084 1 year ago
@Metaldude2084 don't forget yourself.
Osher79 1 year ago
helpless sheep, waiting for police to rescue their pathetic, helpless souls.. I'll keep my guns thank you very much.
fstwrtr 1 year ago
@fstwrtr yh usa keep you guns dont give them up
LIGHTNINGLEVIS 1 year ago
i guess socialism doesn't work for all british
sharinganclan213 1 year ago
Well you've done it now. You've provided another example for USA's NRA to arm everyone to the teeth, so that when a person goes bonkers, those that are about to be bonkered can protect themselves. Condolences to families & friends.
BertGriffin88 1 year ago
@BertGriffin88 What exactly is wrong with protecting yourself or your family? You can pass all the gun laws you want but the last time I checked, the outlaws don't really care about gun laws. We need MORE guns, NOT less and start giving them to the right fucking people. You think some asshole is gonna pull a gun in a place if he knows everyone in there is packing heat? Look how well having thousands of nuclear missles has worked over the decades at deterring nuclear war.
anooseholay 1 year ago
so much for disarming the people
sharky734 1 year ago
LOL and these Dhimmi Brits dont even allow guns or fox hunting !
USELESS as allies and as a people: They sold their souls to socialism and dhimitude!
starcatcher7777 1 year ago
:3 Someone at his profession needed to blow off some steam. let the baby have his bottle and death count. Long as he doesn't level down Parliament.
GaiasBatweasel 1 year ago
Terrorist !!!
raalhosani 1 year ago
mustve seen the future and decided he didnt want to stick around for the alien invasion, ww3 , holocaust 2, and the microchiping? .... obama did it! =/
younginnice 1 year ago
Seems like it's not gun 6that kill people, it's people. Wonder how the gun-control freaks will spin this one.
abarzilai664 1 year ago
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younginnice 1 year ago
This is what happens when people do not have guns to defend themselves.
One loan, "Sleeper" with a gun can terrorize three small towns and no one can stop him. Never surrender the Second Amendment!
DoctorOblivion1 1 year ago
@DoctorOblivion1 wtf you couldnt defend yourself! Shooting rates are like a billion times higher in the US.
DerrenBrown100 1 year ago
@DerrenBrown100 You should sue your mathematics teacher for fraud.
DoctorOblivion1 1 year ago
@DoctorOblivion1 this is what happens when 1 man has a gun not every1..how many school shootings has there been in US compared UK..how many cops are gunned down in the US each year compared to UK.. gun crime in USA = out of control gun crime in UK is not out of control has never been out of control..if you want to brake the law sure u can get a gun..but thats 1% prob less in the UK.
andycats 1 year ago
@andycats No, if EVERYONE had a gun there would be far less gun violence. Give each and every-law-abiding-able-bodied-mother-fucker a .50 cal, 15 round handgun and you would see almost no gun violence after the first year or so. It's just like nuclear missles. No one wants to use them because they know it means they will die too. The math is simple.
anooseholay 1 year ago
@anooseholay you talk alot of shit lol.
CastAirLead 1 year ago
@CastAirLead Some of the places in the U.S. that have the lowest rates of gun crimes are those places where everyone carries a gun. Places where guns are used in daily life because of wild animals. If you go into a bank thinking of pulling an armed robbery and you see everyone in there with a sidearm on, are you seriously going to pull your piece out and demand money? No.
anooseholay 1 year ago
"Homicide rates tend to be related to firearm ownership levels. Everything else being equal, a reduction in the percentage of households owning firearms should occasion a drop in the homicide rate".
Evidence to the Cullen Inquiry 1996: Thomas Gabor, Professor of Criminology - University of Ottawa
Maybe one or two small towns it works. But seeing as you have the equivilant of a civil war constantly in your country because of gun crime and availability.
CastAirLead 1 year ago
@CastAirLead Acctually that is not correct. The number of gun deaths goes down but the overall murder rate does not. Studies with an agenda generally focus on gun deaths and only show 1 side of a pattern It is very easy to mislead people into believing they effect rates. The bulk of the literature on the subject shows little to no effect on index crime rates. The big change is in patterns shifting methods and victimized populations. You have to look at the body of literature, not just 1 study
shananagans5 1 year ago
@shananagans5 Fair enough, I haven't read into it enough. But I'm just saying we have less shootings here.
CastAirLead 1 year ago
@CastAirLead There is not 1 city in the US that has had murder rates go up with laxed carry laws. The murder rate has also not gone down as much as some like to say(sorry gun lovers) Law abiding people don't kill and they seldom get killed. The majority of people that get murdered are felons themselves that know the perp. What has changed is a drastic drop in assaults on inocent strangers with a small reduction in murder. The criminals are now scared to go after people they dont know.
shananagans5 1 year ago
@CastAirLead The equivalent of a civil war? You've never been to the States have you? Lol. I live in Maine and you can probably count the number of people who don't own firearms on one hand. Especially the further north you go. Yet, Maine has one of the lowest gun crime rates (and murder rates) in the nation. Civil War. Hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
anooseholay 1 year ago
@CastAirLead after the handgun ban in the UK in 1997, gun crime has not dropped at all, neither has overall crime, so why should we enact laws that just don't work, just like drugs, there still illegal, but they still get smuggled in, and people get the Easily.
FlamingLavaOwl 1 year ago
@anooseholay then the temptation is greater for ppl.
andycats 1 year ago
theres a guy at work that sometimes i think is going to go on a killing spree has well. Never talks to anyone unless its work related and during lunch sits in the canteen staring at walls for a whole hour.
1111Sean1111 1 year ago
Wait a second... I thought only dirty, filthy, violent, stupid, pig Americans owned guns. This must be a hoax.
SnarkLicker 1 year ago 2
the ambulances in England are weird
Smokey94462 1 year ago
@Smokey94462 What ambulance? There are no ambulances shown in the video.
karlsantos 1 year ago
Sadly, shootings like these will increase. It's only normal.
Anandfulness 1 year ago
ever see the movie taxi driver?
eeleimmij 1 year ago
wtf
hereandnow6002 1 year ago