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  • Some even know nut about religion. What a big shame!!! Allah is known not only to Muslim.

  • Please serch for Ken - Keef Hard talk interview on bbc with this man. The host is kicked very badly

  • Truth about Hizb ut-Tahrir:

    /watch?v=6c8undwTQE8

  • Is it wrong for the world to have a negativity towards a religion that limits free thinking and alternative religious practices under conditions when the members of that religious group is in supreme leadership?

  • Who are Hizb ut-tahrir?

    /watch?v=7naVnRf4nzg

  • the fact is that these fanatics find their place in the west saving their butts and enjoying freedom of speech in the WEST!

  • Thats, they are, they hate Islam

  • Learn more about Hizb ut tahrir, here:

    /watch?v=XGe2IsfM6wk

    Or type: Abu Khadeejah on Hizb ut-Tahrir Taqi ud-Din an-Nabahani Khawarij Takfir Sufi (on the search bar)

  • Just type: YOUTUBE(.)COM like you normally do, then copy and paste this next to it:

    /watch?v=XGe2IsfM6wk

  • DR IMRAN SMASHED IT.

  • what was the issue with the neo nazi connection anyone know?

  • may allah guide the presenter of this show and all humanity.muslims and non muslims the beauty of humanity.x

  • What kind of interview is this? Whats the point asking questions if you're not going to wait for an answer

  • "Some people don't mind their dictatorships". This host is brilliant :/

  • Muslims expect to have mosques built in the West and yet they would never allow churches in their home countries. That's because muslims and hypocritical pricks.

  • From the Quran:

    4:79 Whatever of good befalleth thee (O man) it is from Allah, and whatever of ill befalleth thee it is from thyself. [how convenient!]

    4:34 Men are in charge of women, because Allah hath made the one of them to excel the other, and because they spend of their property (for the support of women). So good women are the obedient, guarding in secret that which Allah hath guarded.

  • The one that Allah guides will never be misguided and the one that Allah guides will never be misguided inshallah

  • dis tim brehhh is annoyingg i feel lk slapping him one tym !

  • what did they talk about the program?

    May be the host said...well Islam is growing!

  • tim as brilliant as always must love this guy!

  • I mean this guy is talking about the west being evil yet he wants sharia laws..

    Just ask him whats the punishment for being gay under sharia laws.

  • in the title of this i just saw HARD dr weed head

  • @muhammadfuckedAkid, yeah, wealth, education these are universal concepts, they are not exclusive to the west, but at this present time in history, the west has more money and you can have a better life there. i gain the skills i need here, so i can go back to the muslim countries and sort things out. i am not staying in the west forever. if you guys like your society the way it is, i am not here to make it a shariah, i dont give a crap what you people do. i just care about my own people.

  • @muhammadfuckedAkid, no i dont see the hypocrisy, obviously muslims are human beings who want a better standard of living. i dont agree with everything people in the west do, but i tolerate it, because its not my country. i just want to be left alone to practice my religion.

  • @muhammadfuckedAkid

    you are a kafir

    when you think 4 witnesses are needed to prove rape

    when studies show 1 in 8 people in america have engaged in incest, yet you use shitty sites to prove muslims are inbreeding

    you think in Islam people can be forced to marry others -WRONG

    you think we live in the west because we like your way of life- WRONG, more money, better health, better education

    WRONG, i would live in a shariah country except none exist in the muslim world

  • @muhammadfuckedAkid

    you are a kafir when: -

    you've had more sexual partners (men, women and animals) then hairs on your head

    you allow your women to walk drunk, half naked down the street at midnight , yet complain you have high rape rates

    A man having sex with another man in the local park where children play is normal in your society

    incest is common among you

    You have the highest suicide rates in the world, yet you claim your democracy and way of life is superior

    

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  • @muhammadfuckedAkid Frankly speaking, according to ur criteria i'm not a muslim. I'm you.

  • Why can't Waheed just answer the question?

  • This guy has nothing- just don"t bother listening to him!

  • @ForCurrentUse Never mind the stuff ppl put on youtube, if u really want to learn abt Islam find out from your muslim friends who are the authorities on Islam and find out the authentic sources for information on Islam. Much like reading through the, say, the British medical journal, for the latest authentic information on a treatment method that is not well known or documented enough. Idea is to find real and authentic sources. Good luck.

  • @ForCurrentUse for a second i thot u were one of the minority grp of muslims who think a political agenda is a priority in Islam, there is such a minority group in parts of India, pakistan and mideast (This idea is already proved insignificant by the scholars of Islam) But after going thru the names of the videos in ur favorites i realized ur one of the many poor misguided western kids who seemed to have received his education from youtube.

  • Another thing is an interviewer needs Listening skills (regardless of however disturbed he might get), Patience, Comprehension, and a good Background on the interviewee and the subject. Asking challenging questions is also a desirable quality, but secondary. This fellow Sebastian doesnt seem to have any of the main qualities, all he can do is ask challenging qns; why did he get this job???

  • There is no priority for establishing a muslim government in Islam, in today's world, if such a government already exists well and good (not counting Saudi, pakistan etc, these dont qualify), but its not an objective of followers of Islam today to try n establish a muslim govt. Why waste an interveiw on this guy?? Why not interview some true representatives of Islam and help work against Islamophobia instead of feeding into it.

  • in sura 105:1-5 muhammad claimed that allah sent the flocks of birds to destroy the king abaraha, who came with an army of elephants to destroy kaba.

    but Tahir al-janabi, the leader of qaramat state, attacked mecca in 930 AD, destroyed kaba, killed pilgrims, stole the black stone. and allah could neither stop nor destroy him.

    he kept the stone in his home town for 40 years untill abbasids paid ransom for its return.

    it proves the story of abraha was concocted by muhammad.

    THINK CRITICALLY

  • A message to muslim bros/sis:

    In 6th century BC the zoroastrian prophet, zarathustra, rode into sky on a white horse

    to meet his deity.

    he journeyed through 6 levels of heavens and met other prophets in each heaven before finally reaching his deity, who was sitting on the throne in 7th heaven.

    1300 years later in 7th century AD. another guy, born in the desert, copied this

    journey word by word and claimed it as his own.

    Can anyone tell me who that guy was?

    THINK CRITICALLY

  • the guy was such a pussy...couldnt dare say he is at war with britain

  • The host isn´t anti-islam, he is pro-democracy. And Imran Wheed shows perfectly what awaits people living under sharia. There is no alternative for democracy.

  • real question and blunt answers.imran was everything but a realist.khilafat is a far fetched ideology that is not going to happen anytime soon.i think groups like hizb tehreer are narrow minded and self centered.they dont represent the community where they can practice their free speech without any fear and they certainly dont speak for the muslims.last thing a muslim 'd ask for is another polical party.I m gonna call it what it is "multiple personality syndrome." muslim and british citizen

  • We should all learn to speak like this against non-muslims especially those who have a biased position. May Allah help the Hizb

  • Message to muslim brothers and sisters:

    Gabriel made a mistake when he asked muhammad,"iqra, Muhammad", which means: read, Muhammad", and muhammad answered,"i can't read".

    instead gabriel should have asked,"repeat after me, muhammad", as allah knew Muhammad was illetrate and Gabriel was not carrying any papers to read from.

    Why then allah sent Gabriel with wrong instructions

    It proves that the story was concocted later

    read also, "101 myths of the bible", by greenberg.

    THINK CRITICALLY

  • a message to all muslim brothers and sisters:

    mr.muhammad said in sura 2:282 that one male witness is equal to 2 female witnesses in sharia court.

    secular democratic laws say: they both are equal.

    who gives women equal rights? you decide.

    in the book 101 myths of the bible, Greenberg proved how biblical stories in jewish bible had their origins in egyptian mythology.

    christians and muslims later plagiarized the very same mythical stories in their books.

    THINK CRITICALLY

  • as an asian i can make the following statement with confidence:

    we are expert in selling vacuum cleaners to the world.

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of judaism and chrisianity to the world.

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of islam to the world

    we sold the vacuum cleaner of hinduism, sikhism and budhism to the world.

    ever wondered why no prophet was ever born in newzealand, aurtralia, brazil, england, or holland.

    we specialize in creating and selling the vacuum cleaners in the name of religions.

  • zfafdf...i dont know what and who you are. But with your insults targeted at me I am certain the one thing your not is a noble and sincere Muslim who is upright and in servitude to God and His Messenger. Furthermore your adventurous assumptions hold no merit and make your comments rather useless. Please for the sake of "SELF-RESPECT", respect other too, even if they hold opposing views. Salam

  • what an annoying host

  • For eg, even ordinary non-muslims, british ofcourse oppose certain elements of britishhood, like some people have no respect for homosexuals, drunks, homo marriages, etc etc. Good christian and jewish families who abide by their religious tenets also do no respect half-nudity...Muslims are not any different. Infact if you look at orthodox monotheists, these are the majority of the UK population, whether they follow their religion or not is a whole different story.

  • you are an idiot wazzonline. who would have a respect for a drunk or a homosexual or a nude person even for a half nude person and so on. you brain washed .......

  • wow very hot and firey debate. I don't agree with the idea of having a Khilafa in the modern age simply because it is impossible and would incite "force". And as per democracy, in Islam Democratic rule is acceptable providing the democratic constitution is derived from the perfect laws of God which are not amendable, altered or used as per preference. For example, if incest is impermissible it stays impermissable, if homosexuality is impermissable, the law remains etc etc.

  • Islam got no Democracy , No freedom of Spech.. so does who is so dumb , Shot yourself..

  • dna

    Zionists didnt exist when MohamMAD and his mad Cult followers were killing hundreds of millions of Hindus and converting Asia to Islam.

    Learn your history before you mouth off.

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  • oONuggamus

    I dont see you defending your horseshit cult very well either jackass.

    Muhammad told you that Satan put words on his tongue so he deleted to verses..What other words did Satan put on his tongue and who is to say he wasnt completely controlled by Satan, after all he did murder, kill and lie in vast amounts.

    You are a dumbass, you are aware that muhammad slept with a dead dog under his bed, he was INSANE!!

    You muslims are completes zombie fools.

    Learn the TRUTH IDIOTS!!

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  • cunt. did the islamic world invent the tv, electric, the car, the internet if they were that smart they would be way ahead of the west

  • very good point!! muslims r barberic and still live in caves and in huts made from there own shit!! in the own country of with is a total shit hole in its self!!

  • actually west gained some traditions after cross attacks (selib). Even west learned the mirror, then having shower and changing their clothes. And if you look through the newly invented things muslims helped them. Look the proportion of intellectuals in America. Make sentences after deep consideration

  • the greeks invented the shower and nearly all inventions are western and japanese, jews proportionally make up most intellectuals in the states

  • kilmorebhoy the shower maybe.... the concept of bathing as a general rule everyday to keep clean is a eastern invention. Concepts of mathematics, philosophy, astronomy were all founded in the east (India, China etc.). It is colonialism that has blinded the western world to the achievements of the east. Schools in the west should teach a balanced curriculum so people like you do not make such ridiculous claims!

  • romans invented the idea of bathing daily it was them who invented sewers as we know them. i take your point about mathematics its is the indians and the chinese who were the trail blazers. babalonians were a great civilisation. north east asians have the highest IQ's . my point been that islam is backward and anti progress. i learned all about the great civilisations in school, all inventions and progress in the last 1000 year are from the west and the far east. the patent office backs this up

  • Muslims blame everbody else but themselfs. I just wish they would just leave Europe. This so called educated arse hole should be deported.

  • nasrum minallahi va fathun kareeb

  • kill religion

  • dna

    Its a CULT..not a religion. Religions you can leave, Cults you cannot leave.

    Islam is a Satanic Political Ideology Cult.

    Scholars with Phds in Islamic studies are teaching people what islam is really all about and many ex-muslims are confirming that they are correct.

    DESTROY ISLAM it is the same as the Nazi ideology, Bigoted and Fascist just like this fat idiot here.

    THe presenter has an arabic wife, he just another liberal idiot who doesnt understand islam.

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  • Soloman,

    your name gives you away.The way you describe Islam can be applied to judaism and christianity.

    The Zionists/West have a lot to answer for when it comes to the hatred pouring out of the muslim world. This man is just another mutation of this hate.

  • long live islam allahu akbar

  • The journalist doesn't understand that thids guy is not crazy nor fundamentalist. He is e real muslim. This is what islam is.Read the quran and the hadith and the sirat.

  • Awesome.

    JazakAllahu khairan

  • @Soloman1001 hey man then why professors who were christans reject its relief and when they understand everything they say they are muslims.

  • WHAT???

    Explain..Professors...What professors, you mean Paedophiles who are looking for easy pickings in islam.

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  • no man. The professors who thought they have found new things but actually all of these things were mentioned in Kuran. Actually I don't accuse or blame them. Kuran was created in 7th century and some professors found out new things (they knew that there were new). When they realise that it was nonsense to fight against the Islam they accepted it. These all rely on facts.

  • The host of this Program is Extremely against Islam. All his videos shows that he don't let any body esle talk. Mostly he is talking without any break. He is a dangerously unfair person.

  • youre right that the host is very biased however he isnt only against islam - check out his interview with geert wilders where he calls him a racist.. lol

  • @devotedfriends, actually tim sebastian is not anti muslim at all, he actually quite pro muslim and pro arab. he is only against what he perceives to be islamic extremism.

  • @devotedfriends what the hell are you talking about?? yes he is against extremist elemsnts as most right minded citizens are muslim or non-muslim

  • @devotedfriends

    What is Islam? ..Its a Politicaly Practised Satanic Hate Cult.

  • @Soloman1001 I agree wid u and wanna add two more words-bigot and zealots

  • @devotedfriends : Heck, hez giving lot of time, which is misused saying bullshit by the othr guy..

  • @devotedfriends

    Its hard-talk. Thats just what he does. And he does it well. And he does it to everybody on his show.

  • @devotedfriends

    He will die death of Pharao...Insha-Allah!

  • @devotedfriends I completely disagree. Tim Sebastian is an excellent interviewer and a first-rate challenger. This is very much needed with a loopy organization such as Hizb Ut Tahrir. Imran Waheed deserves to be challenged.

    Tim Sebastian is also the regular moderator of the Doha debates. A global audience and - more importantly - an Arab audience, learns about the concept of a formal debate where opposing opinions are being presented and challenged.

  • @devotedfriends er... it's called HardTalk for a reason idiot! Him and his replacement are like this with everyone irregardless of opinion, religion, race, etc. Watch a few more before commenting you twat!!!

  • @TheGeraldemerald I actually wasn't talking to you. I was just saying that if you are civilized you must know that how to talk and how to interview some on. There must be difference between a barking dog and a civilized man talking to somebody in a civilized manner.

  • @devotedfriends The programme is called HARD TALK for a reason.

  • soloman1001

    its very easy to se your words of hate and Jahil, until now you didnt put any argument bearing the essens of intellectual proof against islam.

    i have never seen a pizza boy telling nasa people how to build a rocket. just like your telling us about islam and our God.

    until the day you have a litle knowlege about islam, speak.

    for now zipit.

  • Nope! not 1 single argument

  • @oONuggamusOo

    Proof against Islam.. Hmm, You have 12 thumbs up now lets see how clever you are, Who was ALLAT?..can he answer..let us see..

  • @oONuggamusOo

    ILAH is God in arabic not Allah, so where did you get allah from?

  • What about Muslims born and caucasian who revert to Islam? I agree that Muslims should live in a Islamic government and muslim land. Find me one and I'll move. Not the puppet government like saudi, Malaysia, Pakistan and all those countries claiming to be Islamic government while being republic, common wealth.

    On another note about US well guess what the british did there? They changed the culture and religion of the red Indians so did they not reject the society?

  • @oscsgc

    Try IRAN..When are you going..do you need help with your bus fair.

    Your so called puppet countries are involved with outside puppetears because more than 50% of their skilled workforce is foreign because they cannot do the work themselves. I hope you are beginning to wake from your dreamworld.

  • @Soloman1001

    i think you will find that the work force in western places are also mixed and not just white e.g. medicine, the most important field. ok saudi arabia are puppets of the west (yes its true), the king is the biggest kafir going. he is mates with the west having the wealth of muslims looted in exchange for protection of his throne. all muslim countries including iran & all u mensioned are puppets... when khilafah comes (1 rule of muslim lands) not 1 good muslim will stay in the west.

  • @oscsgc

    So b/c the U.S. destroyed a culture that makes it okay for Muslims to do that same? What the hell kind of logic is that? It's easy to have a puppet government when Islamic culture constantly turns out a bunch of uncritical sheep with it's unquestioning faith and backwards values.

  • @oscsgc

    So saudi arabia is a puppet islamic country, they behead people under sharia law for fun do they you silly fool. I suppose hamas is another puppet leadership are they. Try Gaza, you get a great deal there, read & memorise your quran daily or get beaten or used as a human shield. You could try Sudan, are they a puppet government, go there, you wouldnt go anyway life too good having your cake and eating it in the west in your usual hypocritical nature.

  • @oscsgc

    You zipit satanic slave whore.

  • What the fuck are you on? and why do you cry like a baby, throwing all your toys out of your pram, and rant about why I'm here when you fail to win the argument? We can all make things up about others without any proof but does that make you right? Hell no it doesn't you arse botherering, child molesting devil worshipper, it might feel good calling you that but makes no difference to the fact that you are rubbish at debating.

  • @Soloman1001 Get to the serious stuff? you're obviously having a laugh as you FAILED to answer any of the 'serious stuff' first time round, instead you choose to believe that I must be a muslim simply because I disputed and disproved your claims about annual executions globally. I've told you why I'm here and you don't accept my answer, you insist on believing that I must be secretly muslim cos I destroyed your argument and you can't take it. You're an oxygen thief.

  • @VOD713 The native people of canada and the US would still be killing each other and still be living in Tepees. if it wasnt for the Brits.

  • Here where? This planet is not yours alone, you naive unbeliever...

  • @Soloman1001 I've already answered the question several times you dickhead. You've failed to address anything I've asked or pointed out, I wonder why? You really musn't let your inability to debate intelligently anger you to the extent that you fail to write coherently, your impotence can be seen in your writing. Also, why do you use homophobic language to insult me then cry about human rights abuses against gays? You're clearly not a huge fan of gay people yourself.

  • @Soloman1001 Have I or have I not already answered the question? You didn't like the answer as you were hoping to prove that by watching this vid I am therefore a muslim, such is your idiocy. That must mean that you too are a muslim just for watching the vid. That is the extent to how much of a total spaz you are

  • Oh and as we're going over old ground yet again......What religion are you? and also How old are you?

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  • @adam02benoit

    IF and thats a huge IF you are an Atheist then WHAT in the name of Allah green underpanst are you doing here?

    CAN you answer this?

    I think you are a LYING little shit but maybe you can explain your reasons..

    I await.

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  • @Soloman1001 Scroll down for the answer simple solomon. Stop thinking of yourself as my intellectual equal you poor sad little fool. Still clapping your clit at the computer screen 24/7 I see! You're so sad it pleases me.

  • @adam02benoit

    Are you a muslim? My guess is yes.

    Islam is not a religion, its a Cult.

    Religions you can leave Cults you cant.

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  • @Soloman1001 No point answering the first part cos you've made your mind up and it's getting boring. Whether cult or religion neither offer any real warmth or forgiveness without the threat of torture/violence/hellfire/bad re-birth. Only a fool would give themself to either.

  • No religion offers any real warmth love or forgiveness, not without inciting fear and the threat of violence or other misfortune.

  • tim sebastian is such a turd, geez his annoying

  • shariah law is incompatible in the 21st century, just watch as the muslim world embraces this ridiculous set of laws and establish khilafah, it will fail horribly!

  • ok soloman, argue with phantoms of your own imagination when you fail to argue about anything i've actually said.

  • HAHAHAHA!!

    Where is your argument? i havent seen it yet..BUT I have seen your lies...YOU Vile Muslim Filth.

    You are so used to LYING that it has become a normal part of your small insignificant little Dilusional Life.

    When you find your argument, be sure to let me know wont you.

    CRETINOUS MUSLIM MORON!!

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  • YAWN!

    You're so full of hate and brainwashed that you wouldn't know the truth if it bent you over and fisted your greedy gaping ass.  All of your favourited videos are about Muslims you're OBSESSED man! It can't be healthy. I'm sorry for calling you a cunt before, I was wrong, it's clear to me now that you lack the warmth and depth.

  • HT are a load rubbish lame duck organisation

  • adam

    I am working to get your 2 braincells to work togther, more brain power for you.

    BTW..

    What interest does an ATHEIST (YOU) have in a Muslim Fundamentalist Video interview pray tell?

    Can you answer that simple questio yet?

    And dont answer with some crap about you were looking at tim sebastian videos.. because thats CRAP!

    Just tell the Truth, there is no need to feel ashamed.

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  • Clearly you're the one having difficulties understanding that which has been explained to you several times before. So when you've failed catastrophically in your mentally retarded argument you wonder whether I'm a muslim etc etc is that all you've got? Why not just give up? Why move away from the original subject? You're unbelievably tragic it has become rather amusing, And if I was a muslim wouldn't that make your failure to debate with me on an intelligent level doubly embarrassing?

  • adam

    SURE YOU VILE FILTHY MUSLIM VOMIT

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  • Reverting to your ridiculous claims about what I may or may not be is the equivalent of curling up into a ball and crying for your Mum when in a fight. It's so funny how you conveniently ignore/overlook all the facts I laid out before you just to fall back to silly accusations that mean nothing. Even your attempts at being insulting are impotent and funny, like thrashing someone with a wet tissue.

  • adam

    Have your 2 braincells ever met.

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  • adam

    So why are you here if your an Atheist? What does an atheist and a muslim have in common?

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  • Do i have to repeat myself? REALLY? Are you actually that dumb that you have to go over old ground every time your basic argument has been destroyed? Is that your only hope, your last retreat? I've remained posting on here cos I came across you and it gives me great pleasure tearing shreds out of you - yes it's childish but you make it so enjoyable. I'd have done the same if I came across you on any other vid in youtube. Your 'insults' are truly pathetic. Must try harder.

  • What does an atheist and a muslim have in common? Well I'm the atheist so does that mean you're the muslim? Or is Tim Sebastian a muslim as well as the Dr or is the BBC Hardtalk programme as a whole an Islamic one? What are you getting at?

  • Well done you dim witted coveter of turds. You've finally got it, I HAVE NO RELIGION! Halle-fucking-lujah, my efforts have paid off, the boy's finally learned what an atheist is. I'm glad you've dug yourself further into the cesspit though and shown yourself to be a sniveling, narrow minded homophobe to boot. You'd be right at home with muslim extremists it seems. Funny thing is it is YOU who will probably turn into a muslim, they say extremists turn into the very thing they once hated.

  • Just drop all these muslims living in Britain into Afghanistan. Within afew weeks they will be crying to Apostasize.

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  • adam

    Your minded is So Brain Washed a Fucked that you should know one thing..Islam is coming to an END..SOON!!

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  • Oh and why do you care so much about gays when you use 'gayboy' as a pathetic attempt to try and insult me?

  • Well adam

    It appears it worked rather well you fucking GAY MUSLIM CUNT who speaks UTTER Deceptive SHIT most of the time.

    You dont have a fucking religion you spastic, YOU have a CULT, the Cult of muhammad and his most proud one SATAN..YOU FOOL!

    Islamic schoclars with Phds will help you understand that IF you let them and you are preparded to rlinquish your muslim MANHOOD!! but alas NO YOU Brain is Ruled by your DICK!! So you will never comply..You fucking CRETIN!!

    Islams days are numbered.

  • AM A 40 OLD MAN FROM THE NORTH ENGLAND ALL THIS MUSLIM RUBBISH GETS ON MY TITS AND THE TOWN I LIVE  IN ARE FED UP WITH IT TO UHERE IT ALL OVER THANK GOD FOR THE UK BROADER CONTROL ....Y DO U ALL HATE ENGLAND BUT U ALL STAY I WOULD NOT STAY WHERE AN NT WANTED .......BUT THE ENGLISH KNOW ITS THE BENIFITS THE FREEDOOM WELL ITS GOING TO END COS ENGLAND HAS HAD EGNOTH MORE AND MORE VOTING Bnp wonder why .......

  • adam

    I repeated that gay murders, What are you talking about?

    You cant compare general murders with A RULE OF LAW under which be are descriminated Against and the Punishment is DEATH!!

    Stop trying to be a smart arse by comparing one off murders with a RULE OF LAW.

    Islam KILLS Homosexuals, they are not accepted, Neither are Apostates..UNDER SHARIA LAW!! they are not accepted..

    Do you deny that they Apostates and Homosexuals are not accepted under Sharia Law?

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  • WTF? speak english fool! I know Islamic law permits murder/execution for a whole host of 'crimes'. I can barely make out what you were getting at in that post I'm afraid, but I think you're assuming that I'm comparing homosexuality to a crime like murder? well you're wrong, but I'm not surprised - being wrong is your default position. I listed gays/rapist/murders simply as a list of those that are executed under shariah. I'm against ALL capital punishment, i get the feeling you're not tho.

  • adam

    OK! your figures are 8.8 million another study puts it at 5% of total US population that would be 15 million

    So even if you divided the global muslim population by 3 my figures are still very low and highly probable.

    Basing my calculations here on Homosexuals Alone, you can add Apostates, Lame Muslims, Adulterers, Criminals, Pirates, Treason.

    Potentially BIG Numbers compared to 9 million a year.

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  • Yes but you're overlooking a small but very important issue here. THERE AREN'T 9 M EXECUTIONS CARRIED OUT EACH YEAR - ANYWHERE!

  • adam

    Can you prove that there are not 9 million executions or killings carried out each year?

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  • HA HA! OMG you are unbelievable! Really. You have the nerve to ask me to prove 9 m aren't executed when you failed miserably to prove that they are? Ok, I wont rely on a made up media organisation like you do though, the green cookie monster media wont be quoted. handsoffcain . info/bancadati/index . php?tipotema=arg&idtema=120005­47 or guardian . co . uk/world/2006/apr/20/ewenmacas­kill.mainsection

  • You're also just repeating what I already told you, I told you that you had actually underestimated the numbers of gay/bi/murderers/rapist etc. What's your point?

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  • Fat Boy Lost the argument here, No Ballot Box..NO VOTE..FATTY!

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  • Conclusion = Fatty gets Deported or Beaten Severely with the Silly Stick.

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  • Even if you took the Calculation at 50% of the world muslim population say 700 million, 9 million would still be the lower level of the probability factor for capital punishment for those categories listed..namely

    Homosexuals, Apostates, Lame Muslims, Adulterers and Criminals.

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  • You could base the numbe of 9 million a year based on 50% of global population and just counting gays alone.

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  • At last we are getting somehwere.

    You posed a figure for potential gays in the USA at 44 million out of a population of 300 million, that represents 14% of population just being gay.

    1% of the 1.4 billion muslim population represents 14 million.

    14% potentially gay in Islam could be as high as 196 million

    Just being gay. But Islam doesnt only Kill Gays, it also Kills Apostates, Lame Muslims, Adulterers and Criminals.

    Homosexuals alone can potentially represent 196 million.

  • So based on those numbers alone it is quite clear to see how my numbers of 9 million a year just for the Gays being killed alone is an accurate probability calculation.

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  • Together with the fact that the Islamic Media actually admitted to it.

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  • No it's not clear at all nor is it evident in ACTUAL fact. Nowhere on Earth are 9 million people executed in ANY country that's a FACT! If you take the figures of executions carried out in all countries that enforce capital punishment it doesn't even reach 1 million, not by a long way, let alone 9 m.

  • No, If you can read my reply properly you'll see I quoted UCLA's Williams institutes estimate that the US had 8.8 million out of a population of 300m so it's possible that a population of 1.5 would have 44m.

  • The ENEMY within...DESTROY ISLAM!

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  • DESTROY ISLAM!

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  • adam

    Tell me what you know about the Punishments handed out under Sharia Law in Islamic countries.

    Come on you non muslim clown NOT defending Islam, you come on here to argue about something you know nothing about and then you have the audacity to claim my figures are wrong.

    Islam kills Apostates FACT!! It kills homosexuals FACT!! its kills Adulterers FACT!! ..What proportion of the Billion muslims in the world do you thinbk that represents. CRETIN!!

    Admitted by the Islamic MEDIA!!!

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  • Listen you arse bothering pile of faecal horror, your 'estimates' are totally out on every level. I clearly know more about mathematical probabilities than you. UCLA's Williams Institute, for example, estimate than the US alone is home to at least 8.8