WW - Marth (Lee) vs Snake (Tony)

[superfrost13]

The Marth could improve by jumping from the ledge instead of rolling. Not enough grabs!! The grabs make marth good! Maybe more following off the edge too.

[diegot143]

the marth has an issue with walking right into the haymakers.i have that problem too. Its like a mosquito going into a light that will eventually kill him, he cant resist the urge, lol. its wierd but im working on fixing that issue. But yes the marth looked a bit anxious, and his timing was off.

[Qjackful]

The Marth player also doesn't see the importance of the down smash. Ur covered from both sides with most characters.

[basketballman315]

no ike's a combo is best snakes is second

[TheNewGuy03]

Snake's A button combo is probably the most powerful one in the whole game...I can't count how many times I got killed by that...

the dude's not a bad player, but I think he needs to learn how to recover better. but sometimes it's hard to avoid a Nikita missile to the back... (that's what my friend does)

|the kid|

[EnteiRocks]

and uguys both rocked!!

[EnteiRocks]

hey my nicknames kiba 2 cool!!

[Jahra2K6]

Marth...>_>

Snake was pretty good. He's got the ground fighting on lock so yeah. Nice brawl!

[thestlos]

Marth: You could just wait while Snake is charging his fsmash, instead of rolling into it everytime...

[Akemi510]

snake's dash attack looks so funny!

but yeah. marth could use a little more counters, & wenever he did them, they were always at the wrong times. he made good use of the grabbing though.

[Solfedged]

eh, they were okay...

[tsubcom]

marth needz moar countering

[thealmightyX]

wow this match makes me realise snake has lots of potential =D

[EternalFuu]

Solid ******* Snake!

[Enlgmatics]

he could've done several things. whatever. the game's new, plenty of time to test the waters.

[genovaz]

i wonder if that marth knows you can still edgehop

[kidbu916]

He had a few options, he could of jumped from the edge instead rolling or atk from the edge. You'd think he would have caught after losing 2 lives the same way, but nope.

[kidbu916]

The person playing kept rolling into the Snake's down b and it cost him the match with his stupidity.

[ZeonTheFreshPrince]

He had no choice but to do so, smartass.

[DeCypherMuZak]

He had a lot of choices, and it's snake's Fsmash.. he never used down b

[UltimatePablos]

Nice fight!

[somerandommofo]

luv it how marth keeps falling for snakes downward blast

[BrotherChaplain]

that's his forward smash

[scene90kid]

the brutal absence of mind games by lee makes me realize why azen will destroy everyone at this game.

[emoriku989]

What? Marth loses again? Man, you guys make Marth look bad.

[Zaxo3636]

There's a WifiWars vid I saw when Marth beat Ike. It's a good match too, you should check it out.

[Doomtastic]

Countering is just a way of saying "I suck".

[nintendomaster2024]

Countering is programmed into the game, so might as well use it.

[TheSizMan]

that tipper is disgusting

[nintendomaster2024]

It looked freakin' awesome.

[EnglishHornYay]

I really really hate marth! he's so damn boring, and over rated when he sucks massive testicles! *notice the tiara*

[smallpenis1]

a character is only as good as the player.

[DarknessDragon0X]

True

[DJP167]

snake is a beast

[alien921]

snake is a tank

[inthepooper6400]

Needs moar C4 :)

[TheSelim]

Damn, Snake kicks ass... O_O

[darknumber000]

fuck snake <_<

[Nintemagic]

HAHAHA, wow this is great, every character is balanced now

marth lost movement speed and cant tip 90% of the time

thats PERFECT!

also lost knockback maybe?

[TimeSpaceMage]

FD is definitely not the fairest stage because it benefits characters with projectiles and characters with great ground combos.

[kakashi223]

Theres no way a girly swordsman can defeat the son of Big Boss.

[Necrosis4292]

except for the part where CLEARLY, since this snake has camo, it's ACTUALLY Big Boss. this just makes me wonder how the hell he can talk to otacon though. OH THE CONFUSION

[Nintemagic]

theyre all the same person -.-

[speeps84]

3:14

snakes KNEES marth

maybe it is true that snake is trying to be like captain falcon

[vastakxt]

I'll point out that Snake's from the 80's (Or 70's can't rightly remember) Falcon is from the future. So, Falcon's trying to be like Snake.

[ChiliPepper50]

Wrong.

[vastakxt]

Wrong? Read up on Snake's origins, champ.

[pimpinz123]

Snake is in 2005 in MG2 so I don't think so....

[vastakxt]

It's called Metal Gear Solid -2- for a reason. Metal Gear wasn't even the first game Snake was in. He goes as far back as the original Nintendo console.

[capefeather]

That IS Metal Gear. You're thinking of Metal Gear Solid.

[LinkV3z]

yeah your right, BTW i have a good feeling that snake was in Brawl cause of most famous chars on the SNES (like pit,ice climbers,ETC) since Metal Gear was a game for SNES and the Metal Gear Series was famous they probably had to put him in.Lol thats my theory.

[capefeather]

Those were all on the NES. SNES is the one with Super Mario World, Chrono Trigger, FF4-6, etc.

[aqplaya92]

It was actually because the person who created Snake "begged" to put him in Brawl, and Sakurai, the head game developer, agreed to it.

[LinkV3z]

oh rly?whatever i was expecting something like my theory but whatever.

[speeps84]

whatever

[Kizmmit]

snakes edgeguard is bad, that marth fell for that every time he charged his down smash.

[supercowman]

forward smash but the marth should have seen it coming.. especially when he fell for it twice before. i literally sighed when he died thrice to the same edgeguard.

[novalombardia]

Wow... is it me, or does snake possibly have one of the best edgeguard capabilities in brawl?

[Silvah91]

That's what I thought too.

[A2ZOMG]

Seriously, a canceled Nikita and an Upsmash look like they can really screw with the conventional forms of recovery.

[inceptum16]

This was so hard to watch because they're BOTH my favorite characters. But, meh I'm glad Snake won. This shows how much of a potential badass character he can be. Better than that piece of dung Sonic (no offense to those who like Sonic).

[NeoNoggie]

I like sonic but his character just seems to lack any good pizazzy moves. I really love what they did with Snake though. His moves allow for TONS of strategy, though he's still really slow compared to characters like Marth.

[imthetodd3]

How does the Marth not realize what to do when he grabs an edge?

[Zeyhk]

Glad to see the tourneyfags' favorite getting slaughtered.

[ShadowSlave]

Snake barely won... Just a fyi if you weren't watching.

You are only calling him a "tourneyfag favourite" because you are one of those cry baby noobs against Marth.

[YuMmYZ33]

Im guessing the only reason you guys are saying the Marth is Nooby is because it looks like hes trying to use the style like marth was in SSBM, but many things could have changed

[brodalco]

Indeed.

I just don't get why they made Marth even MORE feminine.

[SilentMagician7]

Is it still possible to Wave Dash?

[JuanLeTwnz]

No Items and a nooby Marth...lame! -.-

At least Snake has bits of skill...

[roflmaog3]

What a dumb statement, explain why marth is nooby? oops, judging by the fact that you want items in a 1v1 means you're either a kid or know nothing about fair competition in ssb.

[prayerpolice]

Did Snake cancel a Fair into a forwardB? It was instantaneous.

[Meneks]

The last kill by snake was nice.

[ShadowMarth11]

yea i would agree with fishboy cause they def made marth slower cause thats who i use in melee and i can tell

[kdizzie]

these guys are soft

[nikc101]

not a very good marth

[my9moms]

no offence to marth i like him a lot but that outfit isnt showing much of his masculin side

[Seafarinhare]

lol There isn't much of a masculine side to show. He's wearing a tiara.

[Jack808Shalashaska]

GO SNAKE!!!

[wolfmann9621]

Lee is not very good with Marth...

[LiLxRefuGe]

perfect air dodge at 2:00

[endgamer617]

Thing of beauty ain't it?

[LiLxRefuGe]

yea, that alone changes portions of the gameplay.. i love it

March 9th! :D

...::sigh::...

[olivefobster]

*sob* I shouldnt have sold my gamecube controllers...

[Kiyosuki]

Marth was pretty alright actually in the old Fire Emblem game. I somewhat remember that anime too. It's tough for a lot of characters to stand up to Snake.

[ffccyuke31]

Snake is surprisingly good :o

I'd thought he'd be bottom-tier-slowish

[Kiyosuki]

Well Snake saved the world four times, and one time it was with a can of spray deodorant and a lighter.

So, nyah. :p Marth's ok though.

[Kiyosuki]

I dig this color on Snake, it looks like the Fury camo from MGS3 so it reminds me of his highness Big Boss. :D

[KoopaKoot]

Great fight. Interesting to see someone use Snake without using his down B.

[Itsallover57]

Marth could never take down a metal gear. He had no chance.

[DEATH2REALITY]

Does marth sword looks shorter??? Nerf look at a melee vid

[HikaruYami]

... That snake player was nice, but at certain points that Marth player was HORRIBLE. He's clearly getting used to Marth's recovery distance still, along with being VERY, VERY unfamiliar with marth's aerials.

There was also a blatantly careless point in the match, where he used a down smash with zero purpose. Snake was already miles away from him.

Marth just... kept walking into attacks. Looking at that match, you can clearly tell the Snake PLAYER is superior, but Marth MIGHT be better.

[Gainrrom]

"There was also a blatantly careless point in the match, where he used a down smash with zero purpose. Snake was already miles away from him."

If by miles you mean an inch... I swear that Marth player almost got him with that one.

Yeah, Marth might be better... but then again, I wonder what other tricks Snake got up his sleeve... can't wait to play as him.

Go Snake! :D

[Chaotix247]

That was quite an amazing match. Bravo to Tony.

[giantmonkey]

3:42...isnt that a teabag?...Im gonna have fun with online

[Abscentx]

You can tell Tony is getting better with Snake after each video...using Snakes projectiles wisely will be key.

[TheFishBoy]

Needs new title: "7 minutes of repetitive edge-guarding"

Lee needs to brush up on his Marth...

[AnubisCidolfas]

Marth's old edgeguarding techs won't necessarily work in Brawl. This is a new game.

[TheFishBoy]

I wasn't referring to Marth as edgeguarding...

Thanks for reminding me that it's a new game, though, I'd forgotten about that. That completely justifies losing pitifully to a newcomer with a top tier character from a six-year-old game.

[kernelcolonel]

"That completely justifies losing pitifully to a newcomer with a top tier character from a six-year-old game. "

LOL you think Marth would be the same as last game? If by losing pitifully, you mean by bare percentages, then you'd be right. Marth may have the same moves but...saying Melee Marth and Brawl Marth are the same is like saying Fox and Falco from Melee are the same.

By the way, what's wrong with edgeguarding? It's a pretty frequently used technique, I hear. Tournament worthy, even!

[TheFishBoy]

If Marth, as you say, has the same moves, and Marth, as you do not deny, is still top tier, then I would say that he's close enough for skill from melee to carry over to a fair extent. The same is not true, of course, of Snake.

Sure, edgeguarding is a fine strategy. The pitiful part comes in when Marth dies three times out of four by rolling into the same move.

[caligula11]

You are a complete moron. It's a new game, there are no "tiers" yet. People are still learning the mechanics. I'm sure you had some losses with Marth to worse characters when you were learning Melee.

[Moriatti]

I have a better answer:

lol, Snake.

[ClearFire1]

Snake pwning the legendary Marth? Could Brawl actually be balanced?

Makes me proud to be a future Snake mainer.

[JSC3]

snake rox

[xzbiytezx]

Also at 5:35

WTF 23% GRAB

[xzbiytezx]

I sense Ken Combos in Brawl

[D2u2B]

Lee he killed you the same way 3 times nub. Learn to ledge hop

[WifiWarsVideos]

I obviously know how to ledge hop, but in Brawl the timing is completely different. Sometimes I'd try to edge hop and I'd end up rolling on to the stage. I'm still not 100% used to it.

[TravoisNero]

you havent played this yet....

so how can you call him a nub and you have no brawl experience..at all?

im not talking about Melee experience, if you bring that up. -_-

he did well on this and snake cant be a tricky opponent.

[Pitylord]

Its actually quite funny when you say that since Snake is a spy and he IS very tricky xD. I think that Snake players would need to master his remote mines, grenades and other gadgets to fully utilize him. Best stages for snake would be smallest ones so many traps could be set :).

[KumoNaruto]

I disagree, bigger stages (though not too big), because Snake needs to be somewhat campy to set all those up, and not end up being sent flying into his own explosives.

[TravoisNero]

opps, sorry about that PityLord, i made a typo when i said he cant.

XD i meant he can.

who i would do is if the opponent is flying i plant the place full of mines and knock him to one :P

Marth looks really cool to play with as well with his new animations

Snake and Marth FTW

[Tsukuyomi01]

And run into a Nikita missile??? I think Snake's edgeguard strategy works a lot...

[TheKoopaBros]

Best snake I've seen. Nice work.

[yogosunbetterthanzez]

can you still shffl in brawl? i suck witout it

[red6170]

snake owns

[ssbkid]

@ 5:19

how many cyphers does snake have O_o

XD

[Anewkeitaro]

Cyphers have become a lot cheaper to make ever since Metal Gear Ray was got destroyed.

[ssbkid]

well that answers allot of questions

but raises so many more.....

[Moriatti]

Cyphers have always been kinda cheap to make.

Their just really noisy.

[Falzar]

Dear Lee: LEARN TO COUNTER PLOX

[MisterWezzle]

It's a little tough watching these without any items. Not even a Smash Ball to make things interesting. Impressive gameplay, I suppose, but Smash is about the fun stuff. This kind of thing takes a little bit out of it.

[Anewkeitaro]

Smash almost has nothing to do with fun when it's 1v1 or 2v2. It's a bad habit that has been labeled as "competitive play".

However winning is still fun so it was a natural progression.

[Verd000]

2v2 games aren't fun? Fuck you.

[PearledWaveS]

Everything about SSB is fun... Whether it is competitive play or not, if you are not a competitive player, you shouldn't say it's not "fun" when they play competitively. I'm sure using items and smash balls are fun, but competitive play is also fun to competitive players.

[Anewkeitaro]

But don't you think theres something wrong. Sometimes competitive players loose so much that they get demoralized and only torture themselves whenever they play.

It's not fun when you loose.

[PearledWaveS]

...That only depends on the individual's character and personality. If I lose, I lost, but it was fun during the match. There's nothing wrong with different views and opinions, so what's wrong with different ways to play?

[frozengreenblob]

Competitive Smashers don't play if they don't feel like playing. Has it ever occurred to you that some people think that battles of skill are fun?

[JFGBD]

What the hell are you talking about? Competitive play is as much fun as playing with items.

[etarc345]

it's not HOW you play that matters in this game. what matters is that you have fun. if someone wants to play a different way then you have to respect that. if you don't want to then fine, just don't criticize them or just stop playing with people like that. i don't see how others having fun in a different way hurts you

[AnimeGURU475]

The last stock for the marth was really good. He was just really predictable with rolling and snake punished him.

[SixthFinger]

Snake shouldn't use his up smash nor fB to edgeguard, but his dB since he can detonate the C4 at will.

Awsome vid btw.

[RyokoYaksa]

You think Marth would've learned to stop rolling onto the stage into Snake's Fsmash after the 2nd time he got KO'd in the exact same manner. Or even the first time... ouch.

[Julikator]

awesome match, very good

[Prolink]

Dude, you're going to get a ton of fans being this good at Snake. Awesome.

[Rflyon]

Wow, at first I was pretty skeptical about seeing a competitive Snake, but this guy changed my mind.

Random diving roll FTW.

[joebomb14]

wow, snake is amazing!

[BHLMR0]

I'm watching as your uploading. Keep it up :D

[SpiderBiscut]

Haha. Marth kept falling for the forward smash.