That was funny. He was a bit rough though, don't you think? What with throwing the English teacher about & exploding a grenade on him, then throwing water on the child & threatening to throw little rocks on the students? ... It's such an annoyingly addictive tune, too - this is the third time I've clicked on it in the last week or two!
man the quebecois speak with such a sewer gutter accent. im so glad i learned how to speak continental french. when i was in france all the people i talked to said the quebecers bastardized their beautiful language.
@t1mTV that's true, man i really admire the way you write beautiful continental english, you have such a mastery of punctuation and letter capitalization, you really fucking rule.
@t1mTV You really need to learn some history about the French language. In fact, Quebec's French represents a variety of French that was spoken around the 15th and 17th century. We still have this accent to a certain extend (diphthongs, affricated "t" and "d" etc etc). France has really changed the accent around 18th century to sound more sophisticated. So basically, French from Quebec represents one of the French language earlier state. Just as American English v.s. Britsh English. Both equal.
@t1mTV Well in Quebec we don't really like the way french from France speaks. Sounds gay ;p. And most of them seems to forget we got the french from them first ! Everywhere you go, everyone got an accent, so no hate.
@t1mTV May I learn to you that the fact is the way of speaking from the quebecers is very close of the old french. And speaking of bastardized, what do you think the english language is? More than a half of your lovely english is based on french words and expression, blent with a barbarish structure. But yeah, we're the bastards in this story XD
@JUSTforwhitlisting English people live in England. I visit it once in a while and always enjoy their culture and hospitality. In Quebec, I have english-speaking friends who use French as their everyday communication language, and English in their home. There is no racism here, only openness to host cultures
@PlastickCCCP The real joke in this sketch is about the stupid arguments about the lost of the Rocky Mountains, Niagara Falls or the army. I found him a quite rude with the englishman, true, but don't be upset, could be worst. And finally his way to talk is in fact his way to laugh of people who cannot speak english.
@PlastickCCCP "A bit rough with the Englishmen"? Go tell that to the Patriots who got their burroughs burned to the ground by the British, or to Charles Gagnon who spent months in jail like he was a petty criminal, or Falardeau who was called a "nazi" by our enemies because he defended his country. Dave Ash bashes the anglohead just like MTL radio stations bash us with Adele, Katy Perry, Nickelback and all the others crappy entertainers all day long
@jaaaacques, i admire your dignity of want a free quebec, so you have my vote on gtfo, i hope in the next refurendum that those quebecers not screw our hopes up and let the separatist win! so now we can have a canada still run in english and french but no worries about quebec(because they have own country), but we'll still fuck em first, you cool with that (we fuck you of your riches and pride and you can still have a free country)aurevoir, et vive la canada sans quebec.:D
@ubercomrade wtf. are you a dumbass or what? why would BC join to the fucked up country of the US?? why should they join the suffering of the americans?the reason i said separatism will always be dead is that quebec is now canadian land which makes up canada. if the french are frogs and the english are pigs then that makes canada a half frog/half pig country(no part is special!!). so even if quebec split, canada will still be a franco-anglo country as how it was B4.
@jaaaacques why do you say canada as if quebec is going to separate, face it separatism died when quebec became british and joined others to become canada. even if its a miracle for it to separate dont you think the anglo-provinces would have done that already! face it man, quebec is stuck to the anglo-provinces by a really hard glue, so in other ways quebec cannot leave canada, so if you do not like being canadian, you are free to leave canada for somewhere else!vive la canada, longlivetheking.
@manovrsb Me and others are trying to wake Quebecers to nationhood. We're trying to make them aware of all they'll have lost when Quebec will be definitely dead. Right now, my country is agonizing in the hands of foreign-controlled media. These are the weapons used by "canada" and their allies to destroy us. They haven't won yet. So all in all, we're fighting for Freedom, like all former colonized countries did
Quebec needs to separate from Canada, just like a child needs to leave the house to be a man. Not because we hate the english people a all, but mainly for historical reasons, to protect the language (small proportion of french speakers, surrounded by english and spanish languages), different values (not everything, but a large part), to be able to identify themself as something that looks like them. Ask the people of Papua, if they want to be ruled by Autralia now...
@SmokyMan001 Your comparison is interesting, but half right. Quebec is not a child, it is a Man who's imprisoned in a cell with no material boundaries. He's a prisoner inside, controlled and manipulated by symbols the invader implanted in him with cultural weapons. Quebec is effectively already a full-grown country, tolerating the presence of foreigners on its soil. As for the Bleu Poudre's particular brand of humor, it IS political satire. And damn funny, too
@jaaaacques Well, I have to agree with you :). And I wanted to put more words to explain my point of view, but with 500 characters, it's kinda hard ;). Peace anyways !
Ok, let's cut the crap guys. This video was made to be funny first. They took a real good english canadian actor to play the english guy. And the guy agreed to do the sketch and play the game, so no hate at all. The cowboy dude is a personna by a good french actor as well. And no it's not retard language, the guy got is own language. Which is like a realy weird french and you have to speak french to understand it, (wich i do) an even us we had translations lol.
@SmokyMan001 Yep, you got it man. This is only funny, not racist or anything else negative. By throwing water on the head of the student after he asks for his part of Niagara's fall, the message meant there is : « look, you won't have it ». He's actually mocking about the student naive demand. So well, I find it pretty funny and I see nothing of the «anglo-hate» we're used to (used, and pissed off). Avant d'être Québécois, nous étions CanadiEns, but never were we CanadiAns. Paix :)
haha this propaganda is bullshit!!if quebec separates from canada then alberta and british columbia can landlock shake hands and separate also,then take out thier dicks and start to fuck over quebec for its money back, also other provinces will do the same to get rich, and become thier own free country which UK has imprisoned them when quebec joined, CANADA will be no more. but wth,only a small % in quebec want separation,so why do we listen to them and let the ones who love CANADA suffer!!
@manovrsb We won't kick Ottawa's butt out of Quebec without paying our fair share of the debt, and inheriting our fair share of Ottawa's belongings. Afterwards, what you guys do with canada is of no concern to us. It was ill-founded from the start. You can't hope to build a durable country on such meager premises as those provided by the BNAA. It's not your fault, neither is it ours. Good luck anyway
@TheShirlock hahaha petit inconscient.... c'est en raison du monde comme toi que dans 500 ans les historiens comprendront pas pourquoi le Québec n'est pas devenu indépendant.
huh, j'sais pas si vous aviez remarqué, mais Ash (Taschereau) chante EN FRANÇAIS en forçant démesurément l'accent anglo... juste pour faire comme si il chantait en anglais... c'est de l'ironie, du sarcasme, de l'humour absurde et intelligent...
@jaaaacques j'étais pas au courant que ça se voulait une réplique à un quelconque "diseur de marde" sur l'dos des québécois.
Je me souviens seulement que ça avait jouer à TQS, probablement pendant Taquinons La Planète. Merci!
Anglo Canadian here. Love Quebec, wish they would stay. There is so much English Canada could learn from you. We need to stand up together against Americanization and globalization.
But I would fight to the death Quebec's right to separate. The Quebecois should feel angry and upset, so I understand their wanting to leave Canada after how we treated them. However I still hope in my heart we all can stop being angry and grow as a nation.
Love you separatists, love you Quebec and thank you.
@fizzypopism You will still be able to learn from us and be friends when we're an independent nation. Many countries in the world are friends and allies. Since USSR crumbled, I'm quite sure a lot of Estonians and Lituanians visit and care for each other, The same will happen when canada crumbles. I'll keep regularly visiting Nova Scotia with equal enthusiasm and openness towards its people, and I'm sure they will, too.
I'll fight to the death the necessity for Québec to become what it is: FREE
@jaaaacques Not too entirely sure. The fundamental Canadian value is multiculturalism. If we can't shape up enough to keep the French Canadians in this country, then we have failed. Besides, without each other, I am worried both Quebec and the rest of Canada will fall to Americanization. Without Quebec, there will be no significant cultural output. Without Canadian language laws, immigration and Americanization will flood Quebec.
@fizzypopism You seem to consider "americanization" as some sort of fatality, some "bad guy" who must be avoided at all costs, you demonize it. There are indeed a lot of highly contemptible aspects to the United States, but a lot of good ones, too. They DO have a REAL Constitution, you know. Not just a business contract between crooked businessmen, like your British North America Act is. There is philosophical contents in their endeavour --although a meager one. It's still better than nothing.
@jaaaacques I do respect and love American people. But their government has committed human experimentation and even poisoned Winnipeg with radiation tests. Americanization is imperialism.
I do admit that Canada needs some serious governmental reforms, however.
@jaaaacques You'll fight for what it is? If it IS... then why are you fighting? Either way, lets each wear a tie yours blue and mine red, so we can say hello across the battlefield.
@ydfsn I'll fight for the idea it contains, for what it is meant to be --that's what I should have written. Sorry for the confusion. And for that tie colour question, don't worry about that. When the time comes, we won't need that shit to tell who is on which side, Besides, you won't be fighting, because you have nothing to fight for
@fizzypopism You don't see the disgraceful nature of your post? Don't call me your friend. You would "fight to the death Quebec's right to separate..." (not even proper English) "How we treated them"? Quebec is the largest recipient of federal equalization payments -- they're so hard done to in Canada ... NOT! I suspect you're nothing more than a separatist troll. Get a life, pal.
@willham95 People HAVE a right to self determination. People HAVE a right to leave. Ever hear of "I don't agree with what you said but I'll fight to the death your right to say it"?
Yeah, actually. Look up the conscription debate where we tried to make the fight for England. I'm not saying they haven't done bad things, but we can't ignore their grievances.
Also thanks for insulting my English. That'll make you friends.
@fizzypopism The paradox is that if a majority of Anglo Canadians felt like you did, there wouldnt even be a need for separation. Having enough autonomy to ensure the perrenity of our culture while contributing to Canada's success on a Federal level wpuld make us the proudest Canadians. Hope our generation will settle this better than the previous one. :)
@fizzypopism Hey what a rare thing, an Anglophone who doesn't say racist things against us! ME GUSTA! Because here on youtube, it's almost impossible to watch a video made in Québec without racist arguments anglo vs separatists
I'm a separatist, and that's not that I hate canada (well I do hate Harper and mentality from the West but that's my opinion) but wont loose my culture to people who were mean to us...
Any cross nationalistic resentment towards one another on the basis of a differentiation of langauge and European orgins is pathetic. Quebec is flooded with minorities as it is so their should be no need to fight, this is pathetic, leave it in the past.
Après avoir lu les commentaires dans les deux langues, je dis que c'est un match nul : il y a autant de crétins dans les deux camps! (After reading the comments in both languages, I say it's a draw : there are as many morons on both sides!)
Personnellement, je ne vois vraiment pas ce que le Québec fait dans le Canada anglais, je pense qu'il s'agit de deux entités culturelles totalement différentes. Mais je respecte tout le monde.
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The world would be much better off without any french people or people of french decent. All they know how to do is complain. They are so worthless we should deal with the french in quebec the way we dealt with natives - ship them all off to a reservation in some shit hole corner of the country that nobody wants then move in with some intelligent, hard-working anglos.
@IFknHateUTube That is wrong on so many levels. I'm an English Canadian and I know that my place in Ontario has been Americanized. We are facing annexation and the death of our country due to sheer apathy. The Quebecois are the few maintaining a culture that opposes globalization and Americanization. They have their faults, but we can learn from each other. And if I were a Quebecois and I read that, I'd be whiny too.
@fizzypopism For example, you can teach everyone how to be a pompous whiny little bitch who castigates people for watching an American movie or eating french fries without putting gravy and cheese on top.
@IFknHateUTube You realize I'm from southern Ontario, right? And you do realize that while there is nothing wrong with America, their culture is extremely dominant and threatening to smaller businesses and artists? Therefore a responsible person would actively go out of their way to protect small business and art?
francophones love to paint themselves as the suffering oppressed, lol. What would they do if they were on their own, without all the money from Ottawa, originally from Alberta, they have been gettinga huge portion of to keep their shrill french whining to a barely bearable level? How much can you do for yourselves selling maple syrup? I'd love to see the snobby french whiners go, I can't stand bitchy french people. Not being racist, you just suck plain and simple, and we all hate you.
@jaaaacques Oui, Oui, me as well, mon frere. The world would delight in seeing the oppresses children of Canada receive their own promised land, like Israel after WW2, their precious heritage must be preserved!
Forget my Scottish heritage, or any other heritage in the country, French people are so "special" they should be go and make maple syrup and become rich as kings. I mean, 8.5 billion this year in equalization payments, and other bribes on top of that, who needs it?Please! gtfo!
@clancy6969 I'd like to help you convince Quebeckers to gtfo, but you're going to have to use some strategy, here, little buddy. Make them believe they'd be RICHER without Ottawa getting a hook on their wallet. Here's the line: quebeckers have to pay for TWO governments' overhead costs and double jurisdiction fields. Make them believe that the yearly 8.5G$ is just Québec money returning home! That'd work, pal! Let's start a new political party! You get richer, we get free! What do you say?
and if it doesn't work, well... ***sigh*** you can always come work here in Québec, help us manufacture the jetplanes, locomotive engines and truck parts needed to ship our maple syrup all over the world, or provide the transportation logistics needed, or entertain us... whatever fits your abilities
@clancy6969 They are, technically. The Arcadians were deported, Montreal was burned to the ground, they were culturally oppressed by the British rule, conscription made the French fight for the British empire.
Are they a bit whiny? Sometimes, but so is every minority if they want to be heard. We need to understand Quebec's faults with love. Since the have some of the best schools, culture and aspects of Canadian identity.
@spiritos22 - actually it's the politicians who want you, not canadians. If a referendum was held today in english canada, we would vote you out. Seperation means the end of forced bilingualism, no more money for quebec, all federal jobs on the quebec side come back to canada for canadians only. There are benefits to quebec seperating and we all see it. Unfortunately, our brain dead, power stupid/hungry politicians will do/say anything to buy the quebec vote, need you, we don't. That's why.
@lightswch English Canadian patriot here. We do need Quebec. Our whole country has been taken over by Americanization. Quebec is one of the few areas where Americanization isn't as strong. They are some of the most politically active and intelligent people in this country. They have some of the best cultural festivals, and best schools. Besides the Natives, they are the original settlers here. They came up with the beaver and maple leaf.
@lightswch Given that we (in Quebec) pay more to the federal than we get back, it would be an economic lost for you.
That being said, I don't hate Canadians. I just don't feel like one. I know some Canadians and I appreciate them. In the exact same way, I can love Tibetan people yet not be or feel like one. It's not a war. Our culture and political views are different that's all. You can't blame a Québécois to be separatist when you hate them like you do. Grow up. Peace.
@UpstairsMaid You don't only need to look at the actual money the federal give to a province but also the investment in infrastructure and business they do. Quebec tends to do the investments itself (that's why we got a bit more money than similarly populated provinces). But others receive massive investments from the federal. That's why the equalization system give so much too us. It's because we pay 25% of the federal incomes and receive few federal investment. The equalization compensates.
@lightswch wow your a jackass. id say that you belong to the states if you speak like that. Quebec is a great province, had the privilege of going there in march. unfortunately i felt ignorant and stupid not being able to speak french and i am looking into taking french classes.
Sincerement le Quebec aurait pu obtenir sa souveraineter si il y avait plus d'uniter. Falardeau l'avait dit dans une conference au cegep " Le Quebec c'est pas juste le hockey" . Le monde mette pas les bonne prioriter a bonne place pour changer les choses. On a les politiciens qu'on merite . Pi jtecourer des Anglais qui dise que seul le quebec inculte des prejuger a ses generations futre . Les Cours d'histoire du canada en ontario sa en inculte autant qu'ici des prejuger .
@captainparady le monde ici sont des OSTI d'attardés, ils braillent quand le CH perd mais quand c'est le temps de se tenir debout y'aiment mieux aller cluber que de faire face a la realité
I love you all. Haters, lovers... On one hand you have one that hates others cuz they're different and on the other, one who loves the others for their differences.
I can’t wait till the day when we will see similarities between us instead of differences. We have to fight together against those who want to separate us end by those I mean the TV, the politics, the fashion industries and so on.
@delacosta85 You may love others for being altogether different on some points and similar on other points. That is not a problem for anyone. Fight those who want to separate us? I cannot agree more. Nations of the world were meant to go along with one another. National boundaries are not an obstacle to that, these boundaries are not a "separation" factor but a factor of differentiation. They account for the richness of this world
@berger1954 Oui, nous le sommes! Et nous n'arrêterons pas tant que nous n'aurons pas eu notre pays! Vive la République du Québec en français où nous ne considérerons pas les non-francophones comme des citoyens de seconde classe, au contraire des impérialistes canadiens!
Who are WE? The separatists are ethno-centric at best. My family has been here for generations. Cut trees, moved rocks, planted crops, raised families. We speak both languages and respect everyone as equals. there is no problem, it's been created by politicians and racists. It's a 2-way street. English Canadians who are intolerant of French-speaking people should should take a hike too.
@thatdarnrobbo I have no fun telling you that your ancestors were brought here to drown the French, who implanted first on Canadian soil. Your ancestors were manipulated by the British for political purposes, just like you are --centuries later. It's not their fault, nor is it yours. You might not want to learn Québec History because it reveals truths that could hurt your beliefs... but that won't change History. You belong to the conquerors, I belong to the conquered
@jaaaacques pathetic frenchy using the old colonist debate LOL Only an uneducated bigot like yourself would make such a comparison to centuries ago, and all for the sake of staying relevant. You use this argument in your defense as if it makes for a good reason to oppress people and ignore the current reality ....???? LOL get with the times, stop holding a grudge and respect all, you delusional nationalist pig!
@bklonb We don't oppress anyone, we just defend what we are. If you had something to defend besides the shitbag full of lies that rests on your shoulders, you'd understand us
pathetic frenchy using the old colonist debate LOL Only an uneducated bigot like yourself would make such a comparison to centuries ago, and all for the sake of staying relevant. You use this argument in your defense as if it makes for a good reason to oppress people and ignore the current reality ....???? LOL get with the times, stop holding a grudge and respect all, you delusional nationalist pig!
pathetic frenchy using the old colonist debate LOL Only an uneducated bigot like yourself would make such a comparison to centuries ago, and all for the sake of staying relevant. You use this argument in your defense as if it makes for a good reason to oppress people and ignore the current reality ....???? LOL get with the times, stop holding a grudge and respect all, you delusional nationalist pig!
Maybe Ireland should ask to join the Canadian confederation and become the 11th Province??? Or you could get rid of Quebec and take Ireland as a new province to replace Quebec. But in order to get Ireland into the the confederation Canada would have to become a republic. I would have to say it would be a good deal for both countries lol.
Quebec should seperate they seem to have a superiority complex lets seeh how they can handle themselfs without any government support, with their part of the national debt,giving back the arctic quebec,They cant keep our currency , they will have to deal with wealthfare,healthcare,natives themselfs, have to make their own trading contracts(gonna be hard not being part of Nafta) and having to ship all its goods through canada. and Canada can finaly stop being bilingual.
@spetznas101 There's no superiority complex here. You're changing the subject. We want to reconquer what's rightfully ours. Ottawa wasn't invited in Québec. We'll throw it out sooner or later. Do whatever you want with it. Besides, Québeckers will be much better off not having to support two governments. We'll control our own tools and means to solve our problems.
As I was telling Dow7969 below, good luck with your country.
You supporting the independance is fine, but talking about freedom seems weird to me in a province where about 60% of the population still wants to be Canadian.
@jaaaacques Again, not according to votes on two sepperate occaisions, there's just a buch of radicals and kids that can't vote yet and don't fully understand the implications of a decision like that. Nowhere near 60%.
@Dow7969 At the 1995 Referendum, nearly all Quebeckers voted YES. The NO vote originated from people who, consciously or not, don't want to be Quebeckers: recent immigrants, angloheads, rich motherfuckers. As a result, there should be no more Referendums, since Quebeckers don't control their political institutions. The fight for Québec Independence will take place in other arenas, just like what happened in many other States around the world
@jaaaacques Lol because it's not a french majority in Quebec? If all the Quebecois voted YES then it would have happened they however were not radicals or terrorists, they were normal people that realized it wasn't a smart economical or political move, how fast do you think the states would snatch up a newly free country right on their border? They aren't so understanding to different people there would be almost 0 tolerence for all of this, they would just speak english and laugh.
@Dow7969 Your speculation is interesting and relevant. But Freedom is worth fighting for. Ireland and the United States gained their independence by fighting for it. If Quebeckers won't do that, they'll vanish from the world map for good. But sure, you're right, we're gonna have to fight.
@jaaaacques Freedom is worth fighting for and I don't have a problem with french people, I lived with a french family for a while, like a step family, but I just don't see how horribly you're being oppressed in Canda.
@Dow7969 Ottawa entered Québec (and Nova Scotia too, for your info) without being invited. Ottawa has no business here from the outset. You wouldn't appreciate if I settled in your home without your consent. The same applies here. That's the basics of our oppression. It sneaked its way into Quebeckers' mind to the point that they're not aware of it anymore. We're trying to wake'em up.
The destiny of any country is to be free and independent. Good luck with yours
Lolll you separatists sure are one hell of a funny bunch of people. Look, if you want to play the victim card, then play it, but play it fairly. The first Nations were here before any other. We came here and raped their woman, made them addicted to alcohol and took their lands in exchange of absolutely nothing.
@eltaco4046 We didn't take their land anymore than the British or the American did. We may even have taken less of it. Besides, most First Nations were not SETTLED on the land, having a nomadic culture. Nowadays, most Quebec independence advocators agree that First Americans should be able to either live according to their ancestral ways --with minimal impact from european settlement--, or join us in ours. We can't do worse on this aspect than Ottawa or the U.S. did.
Wtf okay...tell me where the hell I said that we took more than the British or the American? Unbelievable, you separatists turn everything into a comparison between Quebec and the others...
You're trying to rewrite historty buddy, you're trying to deny what the French did when they arrived here, trying to convert them to catholicism and steeling their lands, or, since you're so strict on temrs, THEIR TERRITORY (where the nomadic cultures traveled from area to area).
You're a pretty good demagogist, like most other separatists, trying to evade the question. Let me put this in terms you'll understand : since you're so fond of the "I come and invade your home" metaphor, let's expand it.
(suite) Your ancestors come here and settle in the lands where the first Nations roamed freely. Aside from raping their women, invading their "homes", taking their goods in exchange of alcohol and thus creating alcohol related problems among them, you come here wanting to impose French language upon the province when these people already spoke their own language way before French ever arrived on North America.
(suite) You tell me that most separatists agree that they should have a choice of choosing between their ancestral way of lives or the typical "Quebecois" way of life, comme si vous auriez votre mot à dire là dedans, comme si ça serait à vous de décider quels choix les premières Nations devraient avoir. (continuons le débat en français). Il y a de bonnes raisons pour vouloir la séparation du Québec, mais de jouer la carte de on était là avant vous, c'est un des pires arguments, désloé, point.
(suite) You want to play the noble vitim part? Fine, then give back what your ancestors took from the first Nations. That probably means the land you are standing on right now as well as the lands of many of your friends and familly.
Not so excited about freeing the oppressed when it comes to what YOUR ancestors did to others huh? It's what we call "politique de deux poids deux mesures". Quebec separatists and left wingists are full of it. And it's ridiculous.
@eltaco4046 We didn't take anymore from First Nations than the British or the American did. We didn't do any worse than your Masters did, and we may end up doing, in fact, BETTER --building a Québec society in which Native Americans will feel more drawn to, than they feel regarding "British North American (1867) Inc." Like Dickhead said, "Just watch us"... and learn from it instead of shitting on something you don't fully understand, mister
What Masters? I don't have any masters, MISTER. I am only an anti-nationalist, I am against Quebec's nationalist movement as much as I am against Canadian nationalism. So before talking nonsense, shitting on my opinions and telling me that I don't undertand the issue, read and ask.
Ah évidemment. Ce qui est séparatiste est toujours tellement mieux. Et t'as des statistiques qui me prouvent que l'opinion générale des premières nations est plus favorable concernant la société Québécoise SÉPARATISTE (parce que c'est de ça qu'on parle, et non de la société Québécoise en entier, qui est JE TE LE RAPELLE encore à plus de la moitié fédéraliste) que la société du ROC? SI j'aimerais bien les voir. Si non, ben...ça en dit long sur ta crédibilité.
Et pour la troisième fois, je te repose la question. En français pour que tu la comprenne PARFAITEMENT. PEUT-TU ME DONNER DES EXEMPLES DE CETTE OPPRESSION SI TERRIBLE QUI M'OPPRIME MOI ET D'AUTRES QUÉBÉCOIS NAÏFS À UN POINT OÙ JE NE M'EN RENDS PLUS COMPTE? OU EST-CE QUE C'EST ENCORE UN DISCOURS DE PEUR DE LA PART DE NOS BONS VIEUX SÉPARATISTES POUR DÉSESPÉRÉMENT ESSAYER DE GAGNER DES ADEPTES FACE À LA PERTE D'IMPORTANCE DE LA QUESTION NATIONALE AU QUÉBEC?
Là, si tu ne répond pas à la question...t'as des problèmes avec la structure de ton idéologie. Si ça prend 3 fois la même interrogation, 3 insistances claires et précises, 3 questions on-ne-peut plus pointilleuses sur le fondement apparent de ton idéologie séparatiste, je pense que ça dit tout sur ton incapacité de formuler un argument autre que de la pure démagogie formulée avec de beaux mots qui ne veut rien dire et qui n'est rien à part un discours de peur.
@eltaco4046 L'oppression est pas "terrible", elle est ordinaire. Elle consiste à persuader le conquis qu'il sera plus heureux conquis que maître de son pays. C'est l'oppression que vivent tous les peuples au monde à être dépossédés de leur ethos national. Fa que continue à m'agresser à coups de "SÉPARATISS", et moi je vais continuer à essayer d'assurer la survie du peuple dont je fais partie, le peuple Québécois, ainsi que de son instrument d'actualisation dans le corps social, l'État Québécois
LOL ok cite moi où est-ce que je t'ai attaqué en utilisant le terme séparatiste comme étant péjoratif. Nulle part. Alors fais si t'es pas capable d'entretenir une discussion parce que tes arguments sont beaux dehors, mais faibles à l'intérieur, à un point tel que tu dois mettre ça sur le dos d'un discours d'insultes imaginaires que je n'ai jamais tenu, c'est pas mon problème. Continue à entretenir des rancunes vieilles de 250 ans avec ton nationalisme exacerbé, moi, je vais vous regarder pousser
Tu t'en rends peut-être pas compte, mais tu joue du "separatist" et tu multiplie les affichages comme autant d' armes défensives pour conforter ta vision historique d'une province de Québec. On n'est pas des "séparatistes", on se bat pour l'indépendance d'un pays déjà enraciné, comme l'ont fait au moins 50 peuples à travers le monde qui ont conquis leur liberté au cours du dernier siècle. Et y a pas de rancunes. Lorsque l'envahisseur aura décâlissé, il pourra être notre ami s'il le veut
Et toi, tu ne t'en rend peut-être pas compte, mais ton discours n'est rien à part de la rhétorique pure et dure et tu tentes de me mettre en sourdine parce que tu n'es pas capable de répondre à toutes mes interrogations et questionnements sur ton idéologie. Tu joues sur les mots. Parfait, tu ne veux pas être séparatiste, je vais t'appeler indépendantiste. Tu essaies de déroger du sujet en t'enfargeant dans les fleurs du tapis. Tu n'es clairement pas ouvert au débat, alors arrêtons-le.
@eltaco4046 ''jaaaaaaccque'' a raison, le terme secessionniste, separatiste a été mis sur la table parce que les deux sont très negatif et ''secessionniste'' fait un paradox avec la guerre de secession.
Ayoye... je m'attendais pas à tout ces commentaires loll. Ok, je vais tenter de répondre à tous tes commentaires, dis moi le si j'oublie des points.
Premièrement, ok, je ne vous appellerai plus "séparatistes", je ne savais pas que c'était péjoratif étant donné qu'un bon nombre d'entre vous, notamment sur facebook, dans "opinions politiques", se disent "séparatistes".
Ok regarde, Jacques...il y a quelque chose dans la vie qui s'appelle la liberté d'expression. Et toi, tu veux me l'enlever parce que tu juges que j'en ai trop à dire? En boy.Bloque moi si tu veux oh grand sage, tes arguments tiennent pas debout, t'as peur que je le montre, c'est ça la vraie raison pour laquelle tu veux me bloquer. J'ai ben hâte de voir le pays du Québec avec des gens comme toi qui sont contre la liberté d'expression et toute forme de débat. Tu me fais penser aux chefs syndicaux.
@eltaco4046 Question tu veux renouveler le Federalisme ou tu es un adepte du ''statu quo''? Parce la quantité de federaliste qui veulent relancer le debat sur le renouvelement de la constitution est assez faible...
Je suis en effet un fédéraliste qui prône le renouvellement de la constitution. Mais ça paraît que tu connais mal la jeunesse fédéraliste, qui elle, prône à la quasi totalité un renouvellement de la constitution et des provinces plus autonomes. C'est du côté du Canada anglais que cela deviens plus rare. Mais encore là, il y a des progrès qui se font, des idées du genre sont de plus en plus véhiculées.
@eltaco4046 J'imagine que je connais mal la jeunesse fédéraliste parce que elle est dans l'ombre des vieux. Je suis content de savoir que de jeune federaliste reprenne le flambeau que leur précédent ont crisser a la poubelle. J'ai l'impression
d'avoir un plus grand respect pour ta cause que toi, qui a ce que je vois méprise les Independantiste... d'ailleur tu as la gachète facile pour traiter les gens d'extremistes.
Je ne connais pas mal la jeunesse fédéraliste, mon cher, je suis le créateur d'un groupe fédéraliste où la majorité des membres sont des jeunes, et je suis modérateur de 3 autres groupes avec la même situation, comptant quelques centaines de membres, où les discussions sont toujours très intéressantes et où on réfléchit sur les grands problèmes du fédéralisme tout autant que ceux de l'indépendantisme.
Je veux régler quelque chose tout de suite : je m'excuse si mes propos ont blessé des indépendantistes comme toi, je suis nullement de ceux qui ne respectent pas la différence d'opinion. Mais les extrémistes restent les extrémistes. Tu ne peux pas dire qu'un gars qui pense qu'une guerre d'indépendance est nécessaire alors que la moitié de la population ne veut pas l'indépendance et que dans cette moitié, un faible taux la veux par la force, n'est pas un extrémiste.
Pour ce qui est de PF, je considère qu'il est un indépendantiste extrême, mais pas un extrémiste. Être extrémiste, c'est mal. Croire en sa cause à l'extrême, au dépens de certaines considérations morales, ça c'est une autre chose. Et c'est ce que PF est. Tu ne viendras pas me prendre pour un con et me dire que PF a toujours été gentil avec le Canada et les fédéralistes, c'est faux, il les a ridiculisés à de nombreuses reprises, et c'est la même chose pour Patrick Bourgeois.
@eltaco4046 J'embarquerais pas sur un gros debat la dessus, mais tu te trompe largement sur Patrick Bourgeois et pour Pierre Falardeau tu as droit a ton opinion.
poor quebec --- 2012 and still slaves of brithish empire. ---- is a shame
krisnnaabraham 1 month ago
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jaaaacques 1 month ago
@pittapatttasin: When you've made your page public, let me know and I will unblock your comments from this page. Thanks ahead
jaaaacques 1 month ago
That was funny. He was a bit rough though, don't you think? What with throwing the English teacher about & exploding a grenade on him, then throwing water on the child & threatening to throw little rocks on the students? ... It's such an annoyingly addictive tune, too - this is the third time I've clicked on it in the last week or two!
Ilionabebe 2 months ago
man the quebecois speak with such a sewer gutter accent. im so glad i learned how to speak continental french. when i was in france all the people i talked to said the quebecers bastardized their beautiful language.
t1mTV 2 months ago
@t1mTV that's true, man i really admire the way you write beautiful continental english, you have such a mastery of punctuation and letter capitalization, you really fucking rule.
jaaaacques 2 months ago
@jaaaacques u mad bro?
puto.
t1mTV 2 months ago
@t1mTV fuk you
jaaaacques 2 months ago
@jaaaacques i bet you'd love to faggot.
t1mTV 2 months ago
@t1mTV i bet you're a bitch pretending to be some asshole jerk, in which case, yes, there's a sea of possibilities
jaaaacques 2 months ago
@jaaaacques look how mad this dude is.
t1mTV 2 months ago
@t1mTV You really need to learn some history about the French language. In fact, Quebec's French represents a variety of French that was spoken around the 15th and 17th century. We still have this accent to a certain extend (diphthongs, affricated "t" and "d" etc etc). France has really changed the accent around 18th century to sound more sophisticated. So basically, French from Quebec represents one of the French language earlier state. Just as American English v.s. Britsh English. Both equal.
LaBellicosa 2 months ago
@t1mTV Well in Quebec we don't really like the way french from France speaks. Sounds gay ;p. And most of them seems to forget we got the french from them first ! Everywhere you go, everyone got an accent, so no hate.
SmokyMan001 2 months ago
@t1mTV May I learn to you that the fact is the way of speaking from the quebecers is very close of the old french. And speaking of bastardized, what do you think the english language is? More than a half of your lovely english is based on french words and expression, blent with a barbarish structure. But yeah, we're the bastards in this story XD
PlastickCCCP 1 month ago
man that was racist to the English people in Quebec like me
JUSTforwhitlisting 2 months ago
@JUSTforwhitlisting English people live in England. I visit it once in a while and always enjoy their culture and hospitality. In Quebec, I have english-speaking friends who use French as their everyday communication language, and English in their home. There is no racism here, only openness to host cultures
jaaaacques 2 months ago
@JUSTforwhitlisting C'est de l'humour; de bonne guerre. Ne le prend pas ainsi.
ungarsdesontemps 2 months ago
@JUSTforwhitlisting Its a comedy show of the mid 90s. I think your racisms feelings aren't legit. :)
Feel free to complain to Ghislain Taschereau, the comedian in the sketch. He was working also with Jacques-Chevaliers Longueuil and Pierre Brassard.
PlastickCCCP 1 month ago
@PlastickCCCP The real joke in this sketch is about the stupid arguments about the lost of the Rocky Mountains, Niagara Falls or the army. I found him a quite rude with the englishman, true, but don't be upset, could be worst. And finally his way to talk is in fact his way to laugh of people who cannot speak english.
PlastickCCCP 1 month ago
@PlastickCCCP "A bit rough with the Englishmen"? Go tell that to the Patriots who got their burroughs burned to the ground by the British, or to Charles Gagnon who spent months in jail like he was a petty criminal, or Falardeau who was called a "nazi" by our enemies because he defended his country. Dave Ash bashes the anglohead just like MTL radio stations bash us with Adele, Katy Perry, Nickelback and all the others crappy entertainers all day long
jaaaacques 1 month ago
@jaaaacques, i admire your dignity of want a free quebec, so you have my vote on gtfo, i hope in the next refurendum that those quebecers not screw our hopes up and let the separatist win! so now we can have a canada still run in english and french but no worries about quebec(because they have own country), but we'll still fuck em first, you cool with that (we fuck you of your riches and pride and you can still have a free country)aurevoir, et vive la canada sans quebec.:D
manovrsb 2 months ago
@ubercomrade wtf. are you a dumbass or what? why would BC join to the fucked up country of the US?? why should they join the suffering of the americans?the reason i said separatism will always be dead is that quebec is now canadian land which makes up canada. if the french are frogs and the english are pigs then that makes canada a half frog/half pig country(no part is special!!). so even if quebec split, canada will still be a franco-anglo country as how it was B4.
manovrsb 2 months ago
lolol i can understand the guy with the accent better than the french kid
thats actually how i sound when i try to speak french xD
MrCactopuss 2 months ago
lolol i can understand the guy with the accent better than the french kid
thanks actually how i sound when i try to speak french xD
MrCactopuss 2 months ago
@jaaaacques why do you say canada as if quebec is going to separate, face it separatism died when quebec became british and joined others to become canada. even if its a miracle for it to separate dont you think the anglo-provinces would have done that already! face it man, quebec is stuck to the anglo-provinces by a really hard glue, so in other ways quebec cannot leave canada, so if you do not like being canadian, you are free to leave canada for somewhere else!vive la canada, longlivetheking.
manovrsb 2 months ago
@manovrsb Me and others are trying to wake Quebecers to nationhood. We're trying to make them aware of all they'll have lost when Quebec will be definitely dead. Right now, my country is agonizing in the hands of foreign-controlled media. These are the weapons used by "canada" and their allies to destroy us. They haven't won yet. So all in all, we're fighting for Freedom, like all former colonized countries did
jaaaacques 2 months ago
As for the politic comment:
Quebec needs to separate from Canada, just like a child needs to leave the house to be a man. Not because we hate the english people a all, but mainly for historical reasons, to protect the language (small proportion of french speakers, surrounded by english and spanish languages), different values (not everything, but a large part), to be able to identify themself as something that looks like them. Ask the people of Papua, if they want to be ruled by Autralia now...
SmokyMan001 2 months ago
@SmokyMan001 Your comparison is interesting, but half right. Quebec is not a child, it is a Man who's imprisoned in a cell with no material boundaries. He's a prisoner inside, controlled and manipulated by symbols the invader implanted in him with cultural weapons. Quebec is effectively already a full-grown country, tolerating the presence of foreigners on its soil. As for the Bleu Poudre's particular brand of humor, it IS political satire. And damn funny, too
jaaaacques 2 months ago
@jaaaacques Well, I have to agree with you :). And I wanted to put more words to explain my point of view, but with 500 characters, it's kinda hard ;). Peace anyways !
SmokyMan001 2 months ago
Ok, let's cut the crap guys. This video was made to be funny first. They took a real good english canadian actor to play the english guy. And the guy agreed to do the sketch and play the game, so no hate at all. The cowboy dude is a personna by a good french actor as well. And no it's not retard language, the guy got is own language. Which is like a realy weird french and you have to speak french to understand it, (wich i do) an even us we had translations lol.
SmokyMan001 2 months ago
@SmokyMan001 Yep, you got it man. This is only funny, not racist or anything else negative. By throwing water on the head of the student after he asks for his part of Niagara's fall, the message meant there is : « look, you won't have it ». He's actually mocking about the student naive demand. So well, I find it pretty funny and I see nothing of the «anglo-hate» we're used to (used, and pissed off). Avant d'être Québécois, nous étions CanadiEns, but never were we CanadiAns. Paix :)
CaiusMaximusCrassus 2 months ago
haha this propaganda is bullshit!!if quebec separates from canada then alberta and british columbia can landlock shake hands and separate also,then take out thier dicks and start to fuck over quebec for its money back, also other provinces will do the same to get rich, and become thier own free country which UK has imprisoned them when quebec joined, CANADA will be no more. but wth,only a small % in quebec want separation,so why do we listen to them and let the ones who love CANADA suffer!!
manovrsb 2 months ago
@manovrsb We won't kick Ottawa's butt out of Quebec without paying our fair share of the debt, and inheriting our fair share of Ottawa's belongings. Afterwards, what you guys do with canada is of no concern to us. It was ill-founded from the start. You can't hope to build a durable country on such meager premises as those provided by the BNAA. It's not your fault, neither is it ours. Good luck anyway
jaaaacques 2 months ago
@manovrsb BC will never seporate with a red neck province of Alberta. We will join with Washington and Oregon and form the Cascades republic
ubercomrade 2 months ago
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manovrsb 2 months ago
Québec will never separate from Canada. They are the heart of it! Vive le Québec !
Vive le Canada. Ensemble !
TheShirlock 3 months ago
@TheShirlock hahaha petit inconscient.... c'est en raison du monde comme toi que dans 500 ans les historiens comprendront pas pourquoi le Québec n'est pas devenu indépendant.
lepatriotes37 3 months ago
Hahaha it's funny!!
39maxpowers 3 months ago
Battez vous bien les Québecois! vive les peuples libres! de la part d'un Breton qui en a marre de la France!
DrGreentribe 4 months ago 4
H U M O R, nothing else !!!
rigaudien 5 months ago
criss d`anglais qui comprend rien XD
fucking english you understand nothing of this for one reason ... the frenshy laught of you (Texas only) no more no less -_-
those video is from Québec to make "a joke show" only ....
ArekuTheMartyr 6 months ago
is this some kind of a sing a long for retards?
bobslay12 6 months ago 2
@bobslay12 Lol it's realllyyy old.. He speak french with so much english accent that even we can't understand him XD
And the song was made when the separation was a big subject and everybody was talking about it..
The lyrics have been made with no intention for or against this subject but wanted to be completely silly about it..
No message.. Just funny because it's so stupid.. XD
Mickr4 5 months ago
@bobslay12 worse,a sing along for the quebecois
darklifeproduction 4 months ago
@bobslay12 if you think this is a sing-a-long, then you're the retard. HA
BasementBird 4 months ago
huh, j'sais pas si vous aviez remarqué, mais Ash (Taschereau) chante EN FRANÇAIS en forçant démesurément l'accent anglo... juste pour faire comme si il chantait en anglais... c'est de l'ironie, du sarcasme, de l'humour absurde et intelligent...
@jaaaacques j'étais pas au courant que ça se voulait une réplique à un quelconque "diseur de marde" sur l'dos des québécois.
Je me souviens seulement que ça avait jouer à TQS, probablement pendant Taquinons La Planète. Merci!
philacoudre 6 months ago
instead of talking, well just laught. this is suppose to be a funny video. should it?
kagentfred999 7 months ago
@kagentfred999 If you find this video funny, chances are you unconsciously agree with its contents, which is very good
jaaaacques 7 months ago
Anglo Canadian here. Love Quebec, wish they would stay. There is so much English Canada could learn from you. We need to stand up together against Americanization and globalization.
But I would fight to the death Quebec's right to separate. The Quebecois should feel angry and upset, so I understand their wanting to leave Canada after how we treated them. However I still hope in my heart we all can stop being angry and grow as a nation.
Love you separatists, love you Quebec and thank you.
fizzypopism 7 months ago 4
@fizzypopism You will still be able to learn from us and be friends when we're an independent nation. Many countries in the world are friends and allies. Since USSR crumbled, I'm quite sure a lot of Estonians and Lituanians visit and care for each other, The same will happen when canada crumbles. I'll keep regularly visiting Nova Scotia with equal enthusiasm and openness towards its people, and I'm sure they will, too.
I'll fight to the death the necessity for Québec to become what it is: FREE
jaaaacques 7 months ago 2
@jaaaacques Not too entirely sure. The fundamental Canadian value is multiculturalism. If we can't shape up enough to keep the French Canadians in this country, then we have failed. Besides, without each other, I am worried both Quebec and the rest of Canada will fall to Americanization. Without Quebec, there will be no significant cultural output. Without Canadian language laws, immigration and Americanization will flood Quebec.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@fizzypopism You seem to consider "americanization" as some sort of fatality, some "bad guy" who must be avoided at all costs, you demonize it. There are indeed a lot of highly contemptible aspects to the United States, but a lot of good ones, too. They DO have a REAL Constitution, you know. Not just a business contract between crooked businessmen, like your British North America Act is. There is philosophical contents in their endeavour --although a meager one. It's still better than nothing.
jaaaacques 7 months ago
@jaaaacques I do respect and love American people. But their government has committed human experimentation and even poisoned Winnipeg with radiation tests. Americanization is imperialism.
I do admit that Canada needs some serious governmental reforms, however.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@jaaaacques You'll fight for what it is? If it IS... then why are you fighting? Either way, lets each wear a tie yours blue and mine red, so we can say hello across the battlefield.
ydfsn 6 months ago
@ydfsn I'll fight for the idea it contains, for what it is meant to be --that's what I should have written. Sorry for the confusion. And for that tie colour question, don't worry about that. When the time comes, we won't need that shit to tell who is on which side, Besides, you won't be fighting, because you have nothing to fight for
jaaaacques 6 months ago
@fizzypopism Anglo or French, You are NOT a real Canadian. You are a disgrace and an embarrassment.
willham95 7 months ago
@willham95 How am I an embarrassment? The thing is, I don't believe in a 'real' Canadian. To define is to limit, my friend.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@fizzypopism You don't see the disgraceful nature of your post? Don't call me your friend. You would "fight to the death Quebec's right to separate..." (not even proper English) "How we treated them"? Quebec is the largest recipient of federal equalization payments -- they're so hard done to in Canada ... NOT! I suspect you're nothing more than a separatist troll. Get a life, pal.
willham95 7 months ago
@willham95 People HAVE a right to self determination. People HAVE a right to leave. Ever hear of "I don't agree with what you said but I'll fight to the death your right to say it"?
Yeah, actually. Look up the conscription debate where we tried to make the fight for England. I'm not saying they haven't done bad things, but we can't ignore their grievances.
Also thanks for insulting my English. That'll make you friends.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@fizzypopism You're not an English Canadian. Fucking troll.
willham95 7 months ago
@willham95 Wow. So everyone who doesn't agree with you isn't Canadian? That is really mature.
Get over yourself man, your opinions do not represent English Canada.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@fizzypopism The paradox is that if a majority of Anglo Canadians felt like you did, there wouldnt even be a need for separation. Having enough autonomy to ensure the perrenity of our culture while contributing to Canada's success on a Federal level wpuld make us the proudest Canadians. Hope our generation will settle this better than the previous one. :)
TheCuriousNose 3 weeks ago
@TheCuriousNose Thanks a lot! That is really sweet.
fizzypopism 3 weeks ago
@fizzypopism Hey what a rare thing, an Anglophone who doesn't say racist things against us! ME GUSTA! Because here on youtube, it's almost impossible to watch a video made in Québec without racist arguments anglo vs separatists
I'm a separatist, and that's not that I hate canada (well I do hate Harper and mentality from the West but that's my opinion) but wont loose my culture to people who were mean to us...
Thanks!
tehachi 2 weeks ago
@tehachi
Any cross nationalistic resentment towards one another on the basis of a differentiation of langauge and European orgins is pathetic. Quebec is flooded with minorities as it is so their should be no need to fight, this is pathetic, leave it in the past.
WupeViasco 1 week ago
Après avoir lu les commentaires dans les deux langues, je dis que c'est un match nul : il y a autant de crétins dans les deux camps! (After reading the comments in both languages, I say it's a draw : there are as many morons on both sides!)
Personnellement, je ne vois vraiment pas ce que le Québec fait dans le Canada anglais, je pense qu'il s'agit de deux entités culturelles totalement différentes. Mais je respecte tout le monde.
soyonzen 7 months ago
@soyonzen *brofist*
fizzypopism 7 months ago
some really stupid ppl leaving some really stupid comments on this page. makes me ashamed to be of the same species
mroy88 8 months ago
Lol wtf ... i can't decide which is more funny. The video itself or the racist comments that are being left.
zerounite 9 months ago 7
@zerounite Racism in the multi cultural society of Canada would be funny if it wasn't so pathetic and sad.
Really, people still hate the French?
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@fizzypopism Only the uneducated ones.
MrG0TH1ER 7 months ago
Ostie de tapette fédéraliste!!!! Vous valer pas mieux que Trudeau la Tapette
bergerac10 10 months ago
@bergerac10 Il y a quelque chose appelée l'éducation, tu devrais t'informer
Reasonwillwin 9 months ago
This comment has received too many negative votes show
The world would be much better off without any french people or people of french decent. All they know how to do is complain. They are so worthless we should deal with the french in quebec the way we dealt with natives - ship them all off to a reservation in some shit hole corner of the country that nobody wants then move in with some intelligent, hard-working anglos.
IFknHateUTube 10 months ago
@IFknHateUTube LOL That's exactly what is happening with Québec right now. Your stuff is good black satire. I like it
jaaaacques 10 months ago
@IFknHateUTube you'll have to get your head bashed in before this happens
DREwestcoast 8 months ago
@IFknHateUTube Did u take ur pill prescription dude?
Agremen 7 months ago
@Agremen Yeah I took it an hour before I fucked your mom, just like it says on the bottle.
IFknHateUTube 7 months ago
@IFknHateUTube That is wrong on so many levels. I'm an English Canadian and I know that my place in Ontario has been Americanized. We are facing annexation and the death of our country due to sheer apathy. The Quebecois are the few maintaining a culture that opposes globalization and Americanization. They have their faults, but we can learn from each other. And if I were a Quebecois and I read that, I'd be whiny too.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
@fizzypopism For example, you can teach everyone how to be a pompous whiny little bitch who castigates people for watching an American movie or eating french fries without putting gravy and cheese on top.
IFknHateUTube 7 months ago
@IFknHateUTube You realize I'm from southern Ontario, right? And you do realize that while there is nothing wrong with America, their culture is extremely dominant and threatening to smaller businesses and artists? Therefore a responsible person would actively go out of their way to protect small business and art?
Also, poutine is the food of the Gods.
fizzypopism 7 months ago
francophones love to paint themselves as the suffering oppressed, lol. What would they do if they were on their own, without all the money from Ottawa, originally from Alberta, they have been gettinga huge portion of to keep their shrill french whining to a barely bearable level? How much can you do for yourselves selling maple syrup? I'd love to see the snobby french whiners go, I can't stand bitchy french people. Not being racist, you just suck plain and simple, and we all hate you.
clancy6969 10 months ago
@clancy6969 I'd be so happy if all "canadians" could feel the same as you, and throw us out... ***sigh*** I wish you could be an inspiration to them
jaaaacques 10 months ago
@jaaaacques Oui, Oui, me as well, mon frere. The world would delight in seeing the oppresses children of Canada receive their own promised land, like Israel after WW2, their precious heritage must be preserved!
Forget my Scottish heritage, or any other heritage in the country, French people are so "special" they should be go and make maple syrup and become rich as kings. I mean, 8.5 billion this year in equalization payments, and other bribes on top of that, who needs it?Please! gtfo!
clancy6969 10 months ago
@clancy6969 I'd like to help you convince Quebeckers to gtfo, but you're going to have to use some strategy, here, little buddy. Make them believe they'd be RICHER without Ottawa getting a hook on their wallet. Here's the line: quebeckers have to pay for TWO governments' overhead costs and double jurisdiction fields. Make them believe that the yearly 8.5G$ is just Québec money returning home! That'd work, pal! Let's start a new political party! You get richer, we get free! What do you say?
jaaaacques 10 months ago
and if it doesn't work, well... ***sigh*** you can always come work here in Québec, help us manufacture the jetplanes, locomotive engines and truck parts needed to ship our maple syrup all over the world, or provide the transportation logistics needed, or entertain us... whatever fits your abilities
jaaaacques 10 months ago
@clancy6969 They are, technically. The Arcadians were deported, Montreal was burned to the ground, they were culturally oppressed by the British rule, conscription made the French fight for the British empire.
Are they a bit whiny? Sometimes, but so is every minority if they want to be heard. We need to understand Quebec's faults with love. Since the have some of the best schools, culture and aspects of Canadian identity.
Anglo who loves Quebec.
fizzypopism 7 months ago 2
@spiritos22 - actually it's the politicians who want you, not canadians. If a referendum was held today in english canada, we would vote you out. Seperation means the end of forced bilingualism, no more money for quebec, all federal jobs on the quebec side come back to canada for canadians only. There are benefits to quebec seperating and we all see it. Unfortunately, our brain dead, power stupid/hungry politicians will do/say anything to buy the quebec vote, need you, we don't. That's why.
lightswch 11 months ago
@lightswch English Canadian patriot here. We do need Quebec. Our whole country has been taken over by Americanization. Quebec is one of the few areas where Americanization isn't as strong. They are some of the most politically active and intelligent people in this country. They have some of the best cultural festivals, and best schools. Besides the Natives, they are the original settlers here. They came up with the beaver and maple leaf.
Stop being angry and love Quebec.
fizzypopism 7 months ago 2
@lightswch Given that we (in Quebec) pay more to the federal than we get back, it would be an economic lost for you.
That being said, I don't hate Canadians. I just don't feel like one. I know some Canadians and I appreciate them. In the exact same way, I can love Tibetan people yet not be or feel like one. It's not a war. Our culture and political views are different that's all. You can't blame a Québécois to be separatist when you hate them like you do. Grow up. Peace.
MrG0TH1ER 7 months ago
@MrG0TH1ER bullshit. quebec refeives $8 billion more than it gives to federal - withoput ottawa quebec would be bankrupt.
UpstairsMaid 5 months ago
@UpstairsMaid You don't only need to look at the actual money the federal give to a province but also the investment in infrastructure and business they do. Quebec tends to do the investments itself (that's why we got a bit more money than similarly populated provinces). But others receive massive investments from the federal. That's why the equalization system give so much too us. It's because we pay 25% of the federal incomes and receive few federal investment. The equalization compensates.
MrG0TH1ER 5 months ago
@UpstairsMaid = RACIST TROLL
YOU AGAIN MAKING RACISTS COMMENTS ON QUEBEC
YOU UGLY RACIST ALBERTAN COW
YOU FAT SICK RETARDED UNILANGUAL ALBERTAN SCUM
STOP HARRASSING QUEBECERS YOU DISABLED LOSER LOW-LIFE RACIST TRASH
UpstaiirsMaid 4 months ago
@lightswch wow your a jackass. id say that you belong to the states if you speak like that. Quebec is a great province, had the privilege of going there in march. unfortunately i felt ignorant and stupid not being able to speak french and i am looking into taking french classes.
RCACsurvivorman 6 months ago 2
Why, oh why does Canada fight so hard AGAINST Québec's independence?
Why won't Canada let Québec go? There must be a reason and it's not because they "love" us.
Then Why? The answer lies in the question.
spiritos22 11 months ago
@spiritos22 Because Quebec is Canada's bitch.
Adamazeroni 10 months ago
@Adamazeroni
Then why does Canada endure the bitch and want it so much to stay in the federation?
spiritos22 10 months ago
@spiritos22 I'm not sure you know the deragatory/slang definition of the word Bitch. But never the less it was a joke.
Adamazeroni 10 months ago
Sincerement le Quebec aurait pu obtenir sa souveraineter si il y avait plus d'uniter. Falardeau l'avait dit dans une conference au cegep " Le Quebec c'est pas juste le hockey" . Le monde mette pas les bonne prioriter a bonne place pour changer les choses. On a les politiciens qu'on merite . Pi jtecourer des Anglais qui dise que seul le quebec inculte des prejuger a ses generations futre . Les Cours d'histoire du canada en ontario sa en inculte autant qu'ici des prejuger .
captainparady 11 months ago
@captainparady
Dis donc le "é" de ton clavier est-il en panne?
spiritos22 11 months ago
@spiritos22 ouais lol !
captainparady 11 months ago
@captainparady le monde ici sont des OSTI d'attardés, ils braillent quand le CH perd mais quand c'est le temps de se tenir debout y'aiment mieux aller cluber que de faire face a la realité
DREwestcoast 8 months ago
ahahha these delusion frenchies. YOU WILL NEVER SEE SOVERIGNTY OF QUEBEC JUST LIKE NORTH KOREANS WILL NEVER BE FREE.
yurikomuro 1 year ago
I love you all. Haters, lovers... On one hand you have one that hates others cuz they're different and on the other, one who loves the others for their differences.
I can’t wait till the day when we will see similarities between us instead of differences. We have to fight together against those who want to separate us end by those I mean the TV, the politics, the fashion industries and so on.
Fight evil with love not with evil.
delacosta85 1 year ago
@delacosta85 You may love others for being altogether different on some points and similar on other points. That is not a problem for anyone. Fight those who want to separate us? I cannot agree more. Nations of the world were meant to go along with one another. National boundaries are not an obstacle to that, these boundaries are not a "separation" factor but a factor of differentiation. They account for the richness of this world
jaaaacques 1 year ago
That was a funny show. Tellement loufoque !
mtlqc1514 1 year ago
Only in Quebec would they preach prejudice to children.(hangs head in shame) pathetic 3rd world society.
bklonb 1 year ago
And this is why all french people are annoying.
berger1954 1 year ago
@berger1954 Oui, nous le sommes! Et nous n'arrêterons pas tant que nous n'aurons pas eu notre pays! Vive la République du Québec en français où nous ne considérerons pas les non-francophones comme des citoyens de seconde classe, au contraire des impérialistes canadiens!
Je t'aime!
SexyCurlyLover 1 year ago
Who are WE? The separatists are ethno-centric at best. My family has been here for generations. Cut trees, moved rocks, planted crops, raised families. We speak both languages and respect everyone as equals. there is no problem, it's been created by politicians and racists. It's a 2-way street. English Canadians who are intolerant of French-speaking people should should take a hike too.
thatdarnrobbo 1 year ago
@thatdarnrobbo I have no fun telling you that your ancestors were brought here to drown the French, who implanted first on Canadian soil. Your ancestors were manipulated by the British for political purposes, just like you are --centuries later. It's not their fault, nor is it yours. You might not want to learn Québec History because it reveals truths that could hurt your beliefs... but that won't change History. You belong to the conquerors, I belong to the conquered
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques pathetic frenchy using the old colonist debate LOL Only an uneducated bigot like yourself would make such a comparison to centuries ago, and all for the sake of staying relevant. You use this argument in your defense as if it makes for a good reason to oppress people and ignore the current reality ....???? LOL get with the times, stop holding a grudge and respect all, you delusional nationalist pig!
bklonb 1 year ago
@bklonb We don't oppress anyone, we just defend what we are. If you had something to defend besides the shitbag full of lies that rests on your shoulders, you'd understand us
jaaaacques 1 year ago
pathetic frenchy using the old colonist debate LOL Only an uneducated bigot like yourself would make such a comparison to centuries ago, and all for the sake of staying relevant. You use this argument in your defense as if it makes for a good reason to oppress people and ignore the current reality ....???? LOL get with the times, stop holding a grudge and respect all, you delusional nationalist pig!
bklonb 1 year ago
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pathetic frenchy using the old colonist debate LOL Only an uneducated bigot like yourself would make such a comparison to centuries ago, and all for the sake of staying relevant. You use this argument in your defense as if it makes for a good reason to oppress people and ignore the current reality ....???? LOL get with the times, stop holding a grudge and respect all, you delusional nationalist pig!
bklonb 1 year ago
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Maybe Ireland should ask to join the Canadian confederation and become the 11th Province??? Or you could get rid of Quebec and take Ireland as a new province to replace Quebec. But in order to get Ireland into the the confederation Canada would have to become a republic. I would have to say it would be a good deal for both countries lol.
swissnor 1 year ago
Quebec should seperate they seem to have a superiority complex lets seeh how they can handle themselfs without any government support, with their part of the national debt,giving back the arctic quebec,They cant keep our currency , they will have to deal with wealthfare,healthcare,natives themselfs, have to make their own trading contracts(gonna be hard not being part of Nafta) and having to ship all its goods through canada. and Canada can finaly stop being bilingual.
spetznas101 1 year ago
@spetznas101 There's no superiority complex here. You're changing the subject. We want to reconquer what's rightfully ours. Ottawa wasn't invited in Québec. We'll throw it out sooner or later. Do whatever you want with it. Besides, Québeckers will be much better off not having to support two governments. We'll control our own tools and means to solve our problems.
As I was telling Dow7969 below, good luck with your country.
jaaaacques 1 year ago
I support Quebec Independence and I hope that one day they will have the freedom they deserve.
MrSupertwo 1 year ago
@MrSupertwo
You supporting the independance is fine, but talking about freedom seems weird to me in a province where about 60% of the population still wants to be Canadian.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
this is the stupidest shit I have ever seen
lets cutt Quebec off and let it float in the ocean, then they can be independent
kyle887923 1 year ago
@kyle887923 OK for us
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques Not accoarding to two seperate votes.
Dow7969 1 year ago
@Dow7969 Of course, when I say "us", I mean "us Quebeckers", which designates about 60% of the individuals currently living in Québec
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques Again, not according to votes on two sepperate occaisions, there's just a buch of radicals and kids that can't vote yet and don't fully understand the implications of a decision like that. Nowhere near 60%.
Dow7969 1 year ago
@Dow7969 At the 1995 Referendum, nearly all Quebeckers voted YES. The NO vote originated from people who, consciously or not, don't want to be Quebeckers: recent immigrants, angloheads, rich motherfuckers. As a result, there should be no more Referendums, since Quebeckers don't control their political institutions. The fight for Québec Independence will take place in other arenas, just like what happened in many other States around the world
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques Lol because it's not a french majority in Quebec? If all the Quebecois voted YES then it would have happened they however were not radicals or terrorists, they were normal people that realized it wasn't a smart economical or political move, how fast do you think the states would snatch up a newly free country right on their border? They aren't so understanding to different people there would be almost 0 tolerence for all of this, they would just speak english and laugh.
Dow7969 1 year ago 2
@Dow7969 Your speculation is interesting and relevant. But Freedom is worth fighting for. Ireland and the United States gained their independence by fighting for it. If Quebeckers won't do that, they'll vanish from the world map for good. But sure, you're right, we're gonna have to fight.
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques Freedom is worth fighting for and I don't have a problem with french people, I lived with a french family for a while, like a step family, but I just don't see how horribly you're being oppressed in Canda.
Dow7969 1 year ago
@Dow7969 Ottawa entered Québec (and Nova Scotia too, for your info) without being invited. Ottawa has no business here from the outset. You wouldn't appreciate if I settled in your home without your consent. The same applies here. That's the basics of our oppression. It sneaked its way into Quebeckers' mind to the point that they're not aware of it anymore. We're trying to wake'em up.
The destiny of any country is to be free and independent. Good luck with yours
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques
And might I ask for examples of that terrible oppression?
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 Wouldn't you feel oppressed if I entered and settled in your home without being invited, and refused to leave?
jaaaacques 1 year ago
Lolll you separatists sure are one hell of a funny bunch of people. Look, if you want to play the victim card, then play it, but play it fairly. The first Nations were here before any other. We came here and raped their woman, made them addicted to alcohol and took their lands in exchange of absolutely nothing.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 We didn't take their land anymore than the British or the American did. We may even have taken less of it. Besides, most First Nations were not SETTLED on the land, having a nomadic culture. Nowadays, most Quebec independence advocators agree that First Americans should be able to either live according to their ancestral ways --with minimal impact from european settlement--, or join us in ours. We can't do worse on this aspect than Ottawa or the U.S. did.
jaaaacques 1 year ago
@jaaaacques
Wtf okay...tell me where the hell I said that we took more than the British or the American? Unbelievable, you separatists turn everything into a comparison between Quebec and the others...
You're trying to rewrite historty buddy, you're trying to deny what the French did when they arrived here, trying to convert them to catholicism and steeling their lands, or, since you're so strict on temrs, THEIR TERRITORY (where the nomadic cultures traveled from area to area).
eltaco4046 1 year ago
You're a pretty good demagogist, like most other separatists, trying to evade the question. Let me put this in terms you'll understand : since you're so fond of the "I come and invade your home" metaphor, let's expand it.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
(suite) Your ancestors come here and settle in the lands where the first Nations roamed freely. Aside from raping their women, invading their "homes", taking their goods in exchange of alcohol and thus creating alcohol related problems among them, you come here wanting to impose French language upon the province when these people already spoke their own language way before French ever arrived on North America.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
(suite) You tell me that most separatists agree that they should have a choice of choosing between their ancestral way of lives or the typical "Quebecois" way of life, comme si vous auriez votre mot à dire là dedans, comme si ça serait à vous de décider quels choix les premières Nations devraient avoir. (continuons le débat en français). Il y a de bonnes raisons pour vouloir la séparation du Québec, mais de jouer la carte de on était là avant vous, c'est un des pires arguments, désloé, point.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
(suite) You want to play the noble vitim part? Fine, then give back what your ancestors took from the first Nations. That probably means the land you are standing on right now as well as the lands of many of your friends and familly.
Not so excited about freeing the oppressed when it comes to what YOUR ancestors did to others huh? It's what we call "politique de deux poids deux mesures". Quebec separatists and left wingists are full of it. And it's ridiculous.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 We didn't take anymore from First Nations than the British or the American did. We didn't do any worse than your Masters did, and we may end up doing, in fact, BETTER --building a Québec society in which Native Americans will feel more drawn to, than they feel regarding "British North American (1867) Inc." Like Dickhead said, "Just watch us"... and learn from it instead of shitting on something you don't fully understand, mister
jaaaacques 1 year ago
It's not a competition about who did worse for Christ's sake...
eltaco4046 1 year ago
What Masters? I don't have any masters, MISTER. I am only an anti-nationalist, I am against Quebec's nationalist movement as much as I am against Canadian nationalism. So before talking nonsense, shitting on my opinions and telling me that I don't undertand the issue, read and ask.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
Ah évidemment. Ce qui est séparatiste est toujours tellement mieux. Et t'as des statistiques qui me prouvent que l'opinion générale des premières nations est plus favorable concernant la société Québécoise SÉPARATISTE (parce que c'est de ça qu'on parle, et non de la société Québécoise en entier, qui est JE TE LE RAPELLE encore à plus de la moitié fédéraliste) que la société du ROC? SI j'aimerais bien les voir. Si non, ben...ça en dit long sur ta crédibilité.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
Et pour la troisième fois, je te repose la question. En français pour que tu la comprenne PARFAITEMENT. PEUT-TU ME DONNER DES EXEMPLES DE CETTE OPPRESSION SI TERRIBLE QUI M'OPPRIME MOI ET D'AUTRES QUÉBÉCOIS NAÏFS À UN POINT OÙ JE NE M'EN RENDS PLUS COMPTE? OU EST-CE QUE C'EST ENCORE UN DISCOURS DE PEUR DE LA PART DE NOS BONS VIEUX SÉPARATISTES POUR DÉSESPÉRÉMENT ESSAYER DE GAGNER DES ADEPTES FACE À LA PERTE D'IMPORTANCE DE LA QUESTION NATIONALE AU QUÉBEC?
eltaco4046 1 year ago
Là, si tu ne répond pas à la question...t'as des problèmes avec la structure de ton idéologie. Si ça prend 3 fois la même interrogation, 3 insistances claires et précises, 3 questions on-ne-peut plus pointilleuses sur le fondement apparent de ton idéologie séparatiste, je pense que ça dit tout sur ton incapacité de formuler un argument autre que de la pure démagogie formulée avec de beaux mots qui ne veut rien dire et qui n'est rien à part un discours de peur.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 L'oppression est pas "terrible", elle est ordinaire. Elle consiste à persuader le conquis qu'il sera plus heureux conquis que maître de son pays. C'est l'oppression que vivent tous les peuples au monde à être dépossédés de leur ethos national. Fa que continue à m'agresser à coups de "SÉPARATISS", et moi je vais continuer à essayer d'assurer la survie du peuple dont je fais partie, le peuple Québécois, ainsi que de son instrument d'actualisation dans le corps social, l'État Québécois
jaaaacques 1 year ago
LOL ok cite moi où est-ce que je t'ai attaqué en utilisant le terme séparatiste comme étant péjoratif. Nulle part. Alors fais si t'es pas capable d'entretenir une discussion parce que tes arguments sont beaux dehors, mais faibles à l'intérieur, à un point tel que tu dois mettre ça sur le dos d'un discours d'insultes imaginaires que je n'ai jamais tenu, c'est pas mon problème. Continue à entretenir des rancunes vieilles de 250 ans avec ton nationalisme exacerbé, moi, je vais vous regarder pousser
eltaco4046 1 year ago
Tu t'en rends peut-être pas compte, mais tu joue du "separatist" et tu multiplie les affichages comme autant d' armes défensives pour conforter ta vision historique d'une province de Québec. On n'est pas des "séparatistes", on se bat pour l'indépendance d'un pays déjà enraciné, comme l'ont fait au moins 50 peuples à travers le monde qui ont conquis leur liberté au cours du dernier siècle. Et y a pas de rancunes. Lorsque l'envahisseur aura décâlissé, il pourra être notre ami s'il le veut
jaaaacques 1 year ago
Et toi, tu ne t'en rend peut-être pas compte, mais ton discours n'est rien à part de la rhétorique pure et dure et tu tentes de me mettre en sourdine parce que tu n'es pas capable de répondre à toutes mes interrogations et questionnements sur ton idéologie. Tu joues sur les mots. Parfait, tu ne veux pas être séparatiste, je vais t'appeler indépendantiste. Tu essaies de déroger du sujet en t'enfargeant dans les fleurs du tapis. Tu n'es clairement pas ouvert au débat, alors arrêtons-le.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 ''jaaaaaaccque'' a raison, le terme secessionniste, separatiste a été mis sur la table parce que les deux sont très negatif et ''secessionniste'' fait un paradox avec la guerre de secession.
Quebecois1993 1 year ago
@Quebecois1993 ''parallèle'' pas paradox j'écrit vite.
Quebecois1993 1 year ago
@Quebecois1993
Ayoye... je m'attendais pas à tout ces commentaires loll. Ok, je vais tenter de répondre à tous tes commentaires, dis moi le si j'oublie des points.
Premièrement, ok, je ne vous appellerai plus "séparatistes", je ne savais pas que c'était péjoratif étant donné qu'un bon nombre d'entre vous, notamment sur facebook, dans "opinions politiques", se disent "séparatistes".
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 oui j'avoue que cest assez impressionnant se faire submergé de commentaire.
Quebecois1993 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 Et si tu continues à afficher des réponses en 17 affichages, je te bloque. Synthétise tes affaires
jaaaacques 1 year ago
et essayer de former un pays de Patrick Bourgeois.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
Ok regarde, Jacques...il y a quelque chose dans la vie qui s'appelle la liberté d'expression. Et toi, tu veux me l'enlever parce que tu juges que j'en ai trop à dire? En boy.Bloque moi si tu veux oh grand sage, tes arguments tiennent pas debout, t'as peur que je le montre, c'est ça la vraie raison pour laquelle tu veux me bloquer. J'ai ben hâte de voir le pays du Québec avec des gens comme toi qui sont contre la liberté d'expression et toute forme de débat. Tu me fais penser aux chefs syndicaux.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 Question tu veux renouveler le Federalisme ou tu es un adepte du ''statu quo''? Parce la quantité de federaliste qui veulent relancer le debat sur le renouvelement de la constitution est assez faible...
Quebecois1993 1 year ago
Je suis en effet un fédéraliste qui prône le renouvellement de la constitution. Mais ça paraît que tu connais mal la jeunesse fédéraliste, qui elle, prône à la quasi totalité un renouvellement de la constitution et des provinces plus autonomes. C'est du côté du Canada anglais que cela deviens plus rare. Mais encore là, il y a des progrès qui se font, des idées du genre sont de plus en plus véhiculées.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 J'imagine que je connais mal la jeunesse fédéraliste parce que elle est dans l'ombre des vieux. Je suis content de savoir que de jeune federaliste reprenne le flambeau que leur précédent ont crisser a la poubelle. J'ai l'impression
d'avoir un plus grand respect pour ta cause que toi, qui a ce que je vois méprise les Independantiste... d'ailleur tu as la gachète facile pour traiter les gens d'extremistes.
Quebecois1993 1 year ago
@Quebecois1993
Je ne connais pas mal la jeunesse fédéraliste, mon cher, je suis le créateur d'un groupe fédéraliste où la majorité des membres sont des jeunes, et je suis modérateur de 3 autres groupes avec la même situation, comptant quelques centaines de membres, où les discussions sont toujours très intéressantes et où on réfléchit sur les grands problèmes du fédéralisme tout autant que ceux de l'indépendantisme.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@Quebecois1993
Je veux régler quelque chose tout de suite : je m'excuse si mes propos ont blessé des indépendantistes comme toi, je suis nullement de ceux qui ne respectent pas la différence d'opinion. Mais les extrémistes restent les extrémistes. Tu ne peux pas dire qu'un gars qui pense qu'une guerre d'indépendance est nécessaire alors que la moitié de la population ne veut pas l'indépendance et que dans cette moitié, un faible taux la veux par la force, n'est pas un extrémiste.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@Quebecois1993
Pour ce qui est de PF, je considère qu'il est un indépendantiste extrême, mais pas un extrémiste. Être extrémiste, c'est mal. Croire en sa cause à l'extrême, au dépens de certaines considérations morales, ça c'est une autre chose. Et c'est ce que PF est. Tu ne viendras pas me prendre pour un con et me dire que PF a toujours été gentil avec le Canada et les fédéralistes, c'est faux, il les a ridiculisés à de nombreuses reprises, et c'est la même chose pour Patrick Bourgeois.
eltaco4046 1 year ago
@eltaco4046 J'embarquerais pas sur un gros debat la dessus, mais tu te trompe largement sur Patrick Bourgeois et pour Pierre Falardeau tu as droit a ton opinion.
Quebecois1993 1 year ago