0:39 this is a lie... China, north Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (Socialist Saddam), Syria (Socialist), Cuba, Poland, Angola, Congo, Bulgaria, Mozambique and all the other Socialist/Communist nations were depicted very well.
No its not. The Soviet Union funded the Viet Cong to use guerrilla warfare against the south Vietnamese which ultimately provoked the US to war. What the communist did was simply shot people them selves who simply didn't agree with them. If you cant decipher between the two then you truly are a dumb mutherfucker.
@comotose762 Your changing the subject, you said the Soviet's only had cartoons and the Americans used real footage, it was a absurd generalisation. Argument over.
Yeah its true. The Americans did have real footage of them shooting people and burying them into mass graves. So what of the soviets used footage from the Vietnam war, it was a war they started in the first place.
@DerBlitzStag No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
@comotose762 ya but america dousnt hav to go and fight wars with countries they dont hav business in...also the soviets wanted to support there government...the americans wanted to destroyt one with killing people...and what did the vietkong do to provoke us???want a different government??
@DerBlitzStag-Soviets didn't show the POW tortures and the Cuban Program in NV/VC camps. Or any other Geneva Conventions violations by the reds in Vietnam. YOUR arguement is invalid.
@DerBlitzStag Try to contemplate the 120 million people killed by communists in peace time either directly as part of terror or as so-called "political enemies" (but political enemy in the communist term is somebody who tries to improve a situation by criticizing or even only questioning the party bureaucrats) or as a consequence of the idiotic policies of planned economy that created vast famines where it wasn't necessary at all (i.e. where no natural cause existed).
@bladeofice01 Lenin required from his bolshewiki a certain quota of the population to be killed. The first were political enemies, victims that you even could justify to a certain extent from a historic perspective, if you are desilusional enough to believe that comm. would do any good.But quite soon Lenin had any kind of people killed in order to install terror in the mind of the people. Otherwise he couldn't install his idiotic ideology that is based on the total absence of critics.
@joaquinveyron I agree with you. I think you are replying to someone else's reply, not mine. I am fully aware of the Marixist/Engel scam for plitical power and economic control.
@bladeofice01 Oh, come on, do some research. Marx and Engels didn't do anything close to a "scam" and Soviet Russia (or any other state for that matter) ever reached what was originally described as communism, so just shut up until you know a little bit more than your usual west block anti "communist" propaganda.
@AntsanParcher : Have you ever read their works! It's a blueprint for socio-economic control!! It's being used today through International Communist and Socialist International's programs! It used to be called 'redevelopment' plans in the US by Rhodes Socialists like Carter abd Clinton. The new gen Dem Socialists call it 'redistribution of wealth'.
@AntsanParcher : Have you ever read their works?! It's a blueprint for socio-economic control!! It's being used today through International Communist and Socialist International's programs! It used to be called 'redevelopment' plans in the US by Rhodes Socialists like Carter abd Clinton. The new gen Dem Socialists call it 'redistribution of wealth'.
@DerBlitzStag While poverty is the exception in capitalism, poverty was and is the norm in communistic economies. So if you are weak pussies that cannot think and act for hiself, if you are ok with being told what to think and what to do, if you are afraid to take any risks, while accepting to live in poverty, communism is the right way for you. One thing is for sure, for me though. I do anything to stop you or anybody to bring communism on me
@comotose762 Ok, I guess most people here give a shit about truth, facts and reality. But for those who are interested in knowing what communism really does to the world and mankind, I compiled a lift of these documentaries (I also could give you books but I reckon reading doesn t fit you too much anyhow, right?). These videos comprise historical FACTS, scientifically proven:
I don't think we need to feel particularly guilty or ashamed for liking these cartoons or even recognizing that they portray the truth to a large degree. If the propaganda was about how great the Communist Party is and how Comrade Stalin is leading us to a glorious future then I would view it as worthless crap. But the cartoonists were not the elite, they believed in the moral ideals of socialism. In fact, I bet the Soviet elite were huge fans of jazz and secretly dreamed of being millionaires.
Shooting range is a beautiful film that I can't help but love in spite of it being soviet propaganda. It contains some legit criticism of the west and makes me wonder what would have resulted if these creative geniuses had been allowed to train their guns on what they felt was wrong with soviet society as well.
@kaneangel2012 not only that one story is "true". and the commenter seems to be a bit of an old stupid fuck - he "belived" then, and he "belives" now. but there's no need to "belive" now, just come out and see.
the problem of the zoviet propaganga was the same problem as of any religion\advertisment - lies and fairytales. the truth has lost it's power amidst that shit, but now we can firmly distinguish what was what - for now we live in the very same world and are informed directly.
@mda220v dude, have you lived in the soviet union??? well guess what life was better than ever in the 1950s to the end, ask any former soviet citizen that has not been payed by capitalists to tell fucking lies
@SovietUnion100 i even happened to wear a pioner tye for a while, before it was all over. i guess you haven't understood my message right. i talk about the fail of the zoviet PR that became rigid and hypocritical since that very 50-s maybe. and i talk about the final disbelieve of the zoviet citizens. there's nothing here to ask some old folks about - it's all just factological: where have your USSR gone now?
@mda220v factological? lmao, ever hear the saying the victors write the history? whos to say its not shit??
but i know, i know that it was all gorbachev, there was no bankruptcy, it was his prestroika, it made goverment and police powerless and ended in MASSIVE disaster.
@SovietUnion100 "factologocal" is when you take the naturally observed fact itself and consider on what does it look like to mean in logical conjunction with the other facts - without "bad", "good", "god", "tsar", "bloody KGB", "if only" categories and all that shit. so in this case you don't really give a damn to "history" and those who write it. USSR is long dead now and many, if not most of us were happy back then and helped it's dying - and that's the main facts, something to begin with.
@SovietUnion100 as for gorbachev etc, i guess stalin's death was the end of the conscious and serious marxist line of governing and after that warm-chaired partocracy ruled, producing and adoring the respective burocracy mechanism. while so called planned economy needs someone to actually plan it)) instead of planting corn, talking shit and wearing tonns of medals. some of the socialist goles were somehow achived though.
@kaneangel2012 yeah, i dont think anyone in their right mind would put the fate of their company & money in the family mutt(i certanly woudnt), its just propogana, they lie so you buy
Robeson visited the Soviet Union in the late 1940s and sang at the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow before Stalin. That got him into alot of trouble when he came back to the USA.
Wow, where can I get a job as a live target at? Do they pay minimum wage?
JNathanK2011 4 weeks ago
6:28 very nice Paul Robeson singing the hymn of the USSR.
MaoistLeninistMarx 2 months ago
0:39 this is a lie... China, north Korea, Vietnam, Afghanistan, Iraq (Socialist Saddam), Syria (Socialist), Cuba, Poland, Angola, Congo, Bulgaria, Mozambique and all the other Socialist/Communist nations were depicted very well.
MaoistLeninistMarx 2 months ago
I like the animation style.
NorthernFirehawk 11 months ago
didn't know the english version of soviet anthem was from this cartoon....
entaroduai 1 year ago
song was done by Paul Robeson.
frankd1965 1 year ago
Well there is lots of truth in the story if you ask me.
vincevince801 1 year ago
I love how the American propaganda actually shows real people getting shot by communist regimes and the Soviets could only come up with cartoons.
comotose762 1 year ago
@comotose762 America used cartoons too, and the Soviets showed Vietnam war footage. So your point is invalid on both counts.
DerBlitzStag 1 year ago 3
@DerBlitzStag
No its not. The Soviet Union funded the Viet Cong to use guerrilla warfare against the south Vietnamese which ultimately provoked the US to war. What the communist did was simply shot people them selves who simply didn't agree with them. If you cant decipher between the two then you truly are a dumb mutherfucker.
comotose762 1 year ago
@comotose762 Your changing the subject, you said the Soviet's only had cartoons and the Americans used real footage, it was a absurd generalisation. Argument over.
DerBlitzStag 1 year ago
@DerBlitzStag
Yeah its true. The Americans did have real footage of them shooting people and burying them into mass graves. So what of the soviets used footage from the Vietnam war, it was a war they started in the first place.
comotose762 1 year ago
@DerBlitzStag No need to spread the "news". Everybody knows that communism is the bloodiest, most oppressive, most despotic ideology that only brought death, ecological and economic disasters where it reigned. No need to spread the "news" about communism. Planned economy is the epitomacy of idiocy. What is good about communism?? What problem did communism effectively solve in history?? Name me only ONE country where communism did not end up in a rotten shithole?
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@comotose762 ya but america dousnt hav to go and fight wars with countries they dont hav business in...also the soviets wanted to support there government...the americans wanted to destroyt one with killing people...and what did the vietkong do to provoke us???want a different government??
fatpeter1977 1 year ago
@DerBlitzStag-Soviets didn't show the POW tortures and the Cuban Program in NV/VC camps. Or any other Geneva Conventions violations by the reds in Vietnam. YOUR arguement is invalid.
bladeofice01 1 year ago
@bladeofice01 So what? That has no bearing on my argument.
DerBlitzStag 1 year ago
@DerBlitzStag Try to contemplate the 120 million people killed by communists in peace time either directly as part of terror or as so-called "political enemies" (but political enemy in the communist term is somebody who tries to improve a situation by criticizing or even only questioning the party bureaucrats) or as a consequence of the idiotic policies of planned economy that created vast famines where it wasn't necessary at all (i.e. where no natural cause existed).
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@DerBlitzStag
watch?v=OE1nJJBoxvk&feature=related
Nothing more need to be said.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron Please stop pestering me, I'm not a Communist.
DerBlitzStag 1 year ago
@bladeofice01 Lenin required from his bolshewiki a certain quota of the population to be killed. The first were political enemies, victims that you even could justify to a certain extent from a historic perspective, if you are desilusional enough to believe that comm. would do any good.But quite soon Lenin had any kind of people killed in order to install terror in the mind of the people. Otherwise he couldn't install his idiotic ideology that is based on the total absence of critics.
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
@joaquinveyron I agree with you. I think you are replying to someone else's reply, not mine. I am fully aware of the Marixist/Engel scam for plitical power and economic control.
bladeofice01 1 year ago
@bladeofice01 Oh, come on, do some research. Marx and Engels didn't do anything close to a "scam" and Soviet Russia (or any other state for that matter) ever reached what was originally described as communism, so just shut up until you know a little bit more than your usual west block anti "communist" propaganda.
AntsanParcher 1 year ago
@AntsanParcher : Have you ever read their works! It's a blueprint for socio-economic control!! It's being used today through International Communist and Socialist International's programs! It used to be called 'redevelopment' plans in the US by Rhodes Socialists like Carter abd Clinton. The new gen Dem Socialists call it 'redistribution of wealth'.
bladeofice01 1 year ago
@AntsanParcher : Have you ever read their works?! It's a blueprint for socio-economic control!! It's being used today through International Communist and Socialist International's programs! It used to be called 'redevelopment' plans in the US by Rhodes Socialists like Carter abd Clinton. The new gen Dem Socialists call it 'redistribution of wealth'.
bladeofice01 1 year ago
@DerBlitzStag
Do you have any examples of American cartoons with soviets?
StopFear 1 year ago
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@DerBlitzStag While poverty is the exception in capitalism, poverty was and is the norm in communistic economies. So if you are weak pussies that cannot think and act for hiself, if you are ok with being told what to think and what to do, if you are afraid to take any risks, while accepting to live in poverty, communism is the right way for you. One thing is for sure, for me though. I do anything to stop you or anybody to bring communism on me
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
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@comotose762 Ok, I guess most people here give a shit about truth, facts and reality. But for those who are interested in knowing what communism really does to the world and mankind, I compiled a lift of these documentaries (I also could give you books but I reckon reading doesn t fit you too much anyhow, right?). These videos comprise historical FACTS, scientifically proven:
- watch?v=kUxcOqWMviw
- watch?v=COOQrHk7F3U&feature=related
- watch?v=sDBec4HdWfk&feature=related
- watch?v=2es9HnqFxNA
joaquinveyron 1 year ago
Who would agree for a job to be a live target?
Areallykelwguy 1 year ago
I don't think we need to feel particularly guilty or ashamed for liking these cartoons or even recognizing that they portray the truth to a large degree. If the propaganda was about how great the Communist Party is and how Comrade Stalin is leading us to a glorious future then I would view it as worthless crap. But the cartoonists were not the elite, they believed in the moral ideals of socialism. In fact, I bet the Soviet elite were huge fans of jazz and secretly dreamed of being millionaires.
truefakeness 1 year ago
I thought that was actually a great satirical depiction of capitalism. It depicts profit motive free from any other principles.
Kropotkin26 1 year ago
"Money can buy ANYTHING"
lol, the narrator says it like it's not true, lol
Sreggaematic09 1 year ago
anyone finding it ironic that the soviet union called someone else imperialistic? rofl
reallysecretusername 2 years ago
Shooting range is a beautiful film that I can't help but love in spite of it being soviet propaganda. It contains some legit criticism of the west and makes me wonder what would have resulted if these creative geniuses had been allowed to train their guns on what they felt was wrong with soviet society as well.
Ultrasecond 2 years ago
the moral to the dog story is pretty true to be honest.
kaneangel2012 2 years ago 33
@kaneangel2012
And that want makes America great, Anybody can become somebody.
comotose762 1 year ago
@comotose762 bullshite!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
ttinsly 1 year ago
@ttinsly
Back it up
comotose762 1 year ago
@kaneangel2012 Groucho Marx once said "Imperialism is driving a Chrysler Imperial or working for The Imperial Oil Comapny of Canada"
frankd1965 1 year ago
@kaneangel2012 not only that one story is "true". and the commenter seems to be a bit of an old stupid fuck - he "belived" then, and he "belives" now. but there's no need to "belive" now, just come out and see.
the problem of the zoviet propaganga was the same problem as of any religion\advertisment - lies and fairytales. the truth has lost it's power amidst that shit, but now we can firmly distinguish what was what - for now we live in the very same world and are informed directly.
mda220v 11 months ago
@mda220v dude, have you lived in the soviet union??? well guess what life was better than ever in the 1950s to the end, ask any former soviet citizen that has not been payed by capitalists to tell fucking lies
SovietUnion100 11 months ago
@SovietUnion100 i even happened to wear a pioner tye for a while, before it was all over. i guess you haven't understood my message right. i talk about the fail of the zoviet PR that became rigid and hypocritical since that very 50-s maybe. and i talk about the final disbelieve of the zoviet citizens. there's nothing here to ask some old folks about - it's all just factological: where have your USSR gone now?
mda220v 11 months ago
@mda220v factological? lmao, ever hear the saying the victors write the history? whos to say its not shit??
but i know, i know that it was all gorbachev, there was no bankruptcy, it was his prestroika, it made goverment and police powerless and ended in MASSIVE disaster.
SovietUnion100 11 months ago
@SovietUnion100 "factologocal" is when you take the naturally observed fact itself and consider on what does it look like to mean in logical conjunction with the other facts - without "bad", "good", "god", "tsar", "bloody KGB", "if only" categories and all that shit. so in this case you don't really give a damn to "history" and those who write it. USSR is long dead now and many, if not most of us were happy back then and helped it's dying - and that's the main facts, something to begin with.
mda220v 11 months ago
@SovietUnion100 as for gorbachev etc, i guess stalin's death was the end of the conscious and serious marxist line of governing and after that warm-chaired partocracy ruled, producing and adoring the respective burocracy mechanism. while so called planned economy needs someone to actually plan it)) instead of planting corn, talking shit and wearing tonns of medals. some of the socialist goles were somehow achived though.
mda220v 11 months ago
@kaneangel2012 yeah, i dont think anyone in their right mind would put the fate of their company & money in the family mutt(i certanly woudnt), its just propogana, they lie so you buy
behrjet 2 months ago
THe animations are amazing!
lestliness 2 years ago 17
Robeson visited the Soviet Union in the late 1940s and sang at the Bolshoi Theater in Moscow before Stalin. That got him into alot of trouble when he came back to the USA.
67nairb 2 years ago
The singing at the end of the credits sounds like Paul Robeson.
67nairb 2 years ago
It is.
DerBlitzStag 2 years ago