And Bush 41 heads the olanetary covert murder network that fear-steers all the heads of state and industry, all across the planet. He runs Skull and Bones and the CIA, and if you don't tow his line, you end up assassinated by a "lone nut".
The system needs to fall apart and be rebuilt. Hopefully into something better. The fact that a clown that has been paid off via coporate campaign contributions can make a decision in washington that applies to someone in Idaho is sickening.
The best thing for the US would be for it to break into smaller units, that way the politicians are always close enough that you can choke them with your bare hands if necessary.
I agree completely with you about the fragmentation issue -- I think there is a "maximum accountability capacity" that a society or nation can have, in terms of both area of land and population density, before it starts giving way to untouchable centralized corruption. I think that breaking up an unwieldly country into smaller ones makes sense.
Your videos are basically carbon copies of my views. Its a shame that so many people cant open their eyes to realize this. People like yourself with actual logic and who have things figured out are the minority. The media and new american ways are like a snowball rollin down a hill and we are the snow. It just keeps picking up more and more and theres not much you can do about it after it has gathered so much. Keep it up
Thank you very much. I do it because I think it needs to be done, but only for the benefit of people much like myself, with my frame of mind, who usually have to suffer in silence, alone.
You have no evidence for there being any "deep, sinister motives" beneath his surface. There is either evidence, or no evidence. All you have of Ron Paul (or anyone else) is what he has openly shown to the world, and that is his capacity for argument, and his positions with regard to those arguments.
Is he being a two-faced phony, like Barack Obama, who wields hollow charisma and says whatever will get him elected. Perhaps -- but that is always a possibility with anyone.
At least, however, he has devoted his life to the articulation of testable arguments and clear, thorough stances. Obama either bold-facedly lied while he was "campaigning", or spewed empty charisma jingo like "YES, WE CAN" and "CHANGE" -- both statements which actually communicate nothing of specific substance whatsoever.
@NewWaveFan1 your an idiot ron paul is a constitutionalist he would put fair trade into place to industrialize america stop the fed from stealing 90 percent of are money he cut these huge government programs like department of education did have it 10 years ago when i went to school and im just fine. The only reason why these corrupt politions grow the government is because its the job growth that are dead economy can grow so that how they are able to make it not look so bad by becoming comys
Hey Logic Junkie! I really love your videos, they help me relax everyday after school. It is nice to know that there are others that identify the fundamentally corrupt principles in today's society. I wish that you would make more videos though, have you decided to stop?
I agree completely. It's exactly like the episode of the Simpsons when the aliens, Kang and Kodo were posing as Clinton and Dole. Towards the end they say "It does not matter which way you vote. Either way your planet is doomed. Doomed. Doomed. " Either party are just wings of the same basic government.
*LOL* I forgot about those aliens... *L* And, yeah, that's very true.
...Here in America, they call them "Democrats" and "Republicans", but what they really ought to call them is "Good Cop" and "Bad Cop", because they swap turns pretending to be the the friend of the public, and the enemy of the public. Basically they are the "shepherd's crook and flail" of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs, where the real and ultimate goal is the gratification of the ruling pharaohs.
Pepsi or Coke. That's what the choices are limited to with corporate control of the election process. What we need is pure clean water...which, in this day and age is becoming extremely difficult to find.
Sorry to chime in so late but I've only recently discovered you!
You eloquently articulate things that I've been wanting to say but don't because of a lack of audience out here in Japan!
Well, no worries. And I have no idea how anything is going to get fixed, aside from a massive, across-the-board die-off. America doesn't seem to have even a shred of real character any more.
Anyhow, glad you found me -- how are things in Japan?
@TheLogicJunkie David, you need to come out here and check it out for yourself! I voted with my feet in '89 and left LA to come out here. Next time you get that burned out sensation, come out here and be my guest for as long as you need to recharge your batteries! We can compare notes on the Greatest Heartbreak Story of All Time! Do I have a doosey to tell!
Well, I just might have to take you up on that, because I do firmly believe that voting with your feet is one of the only true ways to make real and lasting change.
Ron Paul should have won the nomination for the republican party. It was probably rigged for McCain. He rasied the most money, won most all the text polls (and that's people actually watching TV, not web sufters), had great applauses at the debates. McCain was at the very bottom of the polls all the way until weeks before the priliminaries. Either, people that vote, rely completely on the media to tell them who to vote for or it was rigged. No other real way around this one.
You hit the nail on the head with this one. Well, accept that the democratic system was invalidated long before 2000. It's fairly well-documented that have been rigged before the turn of the last century.
Not only the ballot system is rigged, but you don't really have to much of a choice when it come to selecting a candidate that you think would make a good president since obviously you only have two choices , and those platform presented by the two choices don't differ that much , they just disagree on how to distribute our hard earn money
not voting is basically saying "I want to be a slave with no choice" people like you who make this country shit its the person who is just there. fuckin stand up and do something about then. VOTE THIRD PARTY so other people can be like "wow third party is getting a lot of votes" your fuckin worthless man
I don't know. I'd call you, the person who votes and gets their political fix for four years fucking worthless. This guy makes a great point. It's funny you think your vote actually counts for anything but your own appeasement.
I agree on the whole with what you say. As George Carlin said, these politicians are simply there to give us the illusion that we've got a choice. We have no choice, we have owners. Any thinking person can recognize that this country was bought, sold and paid for a long time ago.
Point taken. However, you're point seems to be nothing more than conspiracy theory. There's really no solid evidence to suggest that our votes are being tampered with more than before. I understand the desire not to be made a fool of, however you really are just making an assumption.
I agree there is a media bias against 3rd parties.
I watched the CNN interview, but the other two videos in your links were removed.
That being said, maybe we should return to paper ballots.
It takes less time to vote usually (not counting travel time,standing in line) than it did for you too make this video. If you don't vote, don't complain (that actually was directed to all who decide "not" to vote).
Do me a favor. Since it is very obvious you voted in the election, please stay dedicated to watching the person you voted for. It has nothing to do with the time it takes to vote. Your comment shows how little you actually understand his opinion. Your vote was really meaningless. Doubly so if you have not kept up with current events. You really should type in George Carlin Voting in the search bar. ; )
Why can't you spend 20 minutes of your time to vote anyway? Go out and vote Ron Paul, vote whoever, but sitting on your ass really won't change anything either.
Silence means nothing. It means nothing. It allows someone to come in a bully themselves into power without any indication of public consent. You see people rallying around Ron Paul? That should be you. Pledge to those you think should be running this country. It shows a hell of a lot more than inaction.
I feel exactly the same. Besides not voting, I'm just trying to get the word out and inform my friends and family about all the lies that are accepted as truth. Thanks for the post. Keep up the good work!
I totally agree I dont vote because when you get into politics its a dirty organization I dont believe any one of the president hopefulls Its just entertainment and racial issues especially this time around dont trust no one white or black America dont give a damn.
Even near Lawrence, KS, probably the most liberal city east of California, Ron Paul was the guy. However, it's like you said, the ones who really decide it didn't cover him.
I'm a Canadian who has voted in just about every election (federal and provincial) since I turned 18. I am nearing the point of never voting again. There is no democracy in the Western world anymore. Not in Europe, not in Canada and not in America. The corporate multi-nationals are running everything. Everything. And casting our individual votes is like pissing into the wind. The difference is, the big corporations are pissing on us at the same time.
There is no need for a formal NAU. It is a de facto reality under the control of Wall Street. We are allowed the illusion of "voting" for our leaders, but there's very little real differences between them. Feed greed, give working people just enough toys to keep them distracted and threaten them with massive job losses whenever they start to stand up for themselves. Nothing new. The US Founding Fathers gave the vote only to land-owning white men. It wasn't democracy it was oligarchy
I agree our election are very controlled and corrupt!
For me it's vote Nader or not vote.
The Nevada supreme court ruled to keep Dennis Kucinich out of the debates thus only allowing 3 democrats in the Nevada debate. Six republicans, including Ron Paul were allowed to debate!
The Orwellian decision said it was a protection of "free speech" to keep Kucinich out of the debate!
OK our elections are corrupt. Corporate media censored Dennis Kucinich and kept him out of the debate in Navada. Only 3 democrats were allowed in the debate and 6 republicans, including Ron Paul were allowed to debate.
The Navada supreme court ruled that corporate media "free speech" was protected by keeping Kucinich out of the debate!
So just don't vote is one option, another is to vote for Ralph Nader!
I choose to support Nader! What do you have to loose by making a protest vote?
I totally understand where you're coming from with that, but I'm reasoning that I can cast a clear protest vote by abstaining from voting until the system is made honest...
While I wouldn't be surprised at foul play, Ive seen tons of Obama, Hillary, and Ron Paul supporters and don't have quite as pessimistic a view on the election.
And? Is the system now somehow safer because more people believe it's safe than just me? Does the sheer quantity of trust in something make it somehow more trustworthy?
If something is mechanically dangerous, then the extent of that danger is intrinsic to the mechanism itself, and is unaffected by the "good vibrations" of countless chanting supporters who all try to believe a change its fundamental nature into existence.
At best, that's naivete. At worst, it's magical thinking.
I haven't voted in 4 years. I just don't think the elections are predetermined as well as you say they are. Atleast considering the sloppy manner in which Bush stole the White House in 2000.
Well, I'm definitely glad you liked it. I personally have come to think, however, that lobbying is probably a much better expenditure of your efforts.
In fact, there's a great new book by the economist Tim Harford, called "The Logic of Life", that really lays it on the line and says exactly the same thing.
I've been saying almost the exact same thing for the longest time! Everyone I talk to about this comes up with some kind of ignorant excuse on why voting matters.
I agree that we need to exercise our "right to vote" but if anything, our "right to vote" has been compromised a long time ago.
You mentioned that our President has already been chosen behind closed doors and this all an act. I couldn't agree more. United States of America, your next President is $ Obama $ - whether you like it or not.
I agree completely with the underlying SENTIMENT behind voting -- that doing something is better than not doing something -- but voting tends to only work in those circumstances where things are perfectly open to inspection by a public who are hot under the collar, and where the voting supervisors' foreheads are covered in a thin sheen of honest, glistening sweat.
I also tend to agree with your sentiment that Obama -- or $ Obama $, as you pretty cleverly describe him -- looks pretty good.
I strongly suspect that his enormous popularity in the press is being significantly bankrolled by ultra-wealthy Saudi oil cartels eager to get a president into the American White House who will quickly dismantle all challenges to radical Islamic supremacy of the world.
Paddy Chayefsky wrote about exactly this in his classic 1976 film, "Network". A great film.
It doesn't surprise me that christians believe it's true, but quite a few atheist believe it's true to (Muaguana, VirtualHolocaust, Tommyfromthebronx, etc.)
Is there proof for this? Were still the US, Mexico, South America and Canada last I saw. If Rockefeller's family is indescribably rich and globalist politicians have been in his pocket for the past 20 years or more, why aren't we just the NAU by now?
Good point, but it seems as though gun owners were more respected under the presidencies of people like Reagan, and less under people like Clinton. I recall that it was under Clinton's watch that incidents like Waco and such happened, whereby Janet Reno and her gang escalated it into an exercise in brute force domination, damn the consequences in terms of loss of life.
I'm not wild about religion or anything, but I do think that people should be allowed to their private protection.
We have a good chance of McCain being president who strongly supports the right to own guns. I also hear that the NAU are going to make us join the military. What next, are they going to allow for ownership of rpg's?
You know, I just read a book called "The Logic of Life", and the writer, an economist, was essentially saying in it that voting is just plain thermodynamically not worth the time and energy it takes to vote.
The writer says that, in terms of return on your investment of time and energy, don't waste your time voting... spend your time lobbying. The voting process is basically a publicity stunt.
I agree with 90% of what you say. I will vote for Ron Paul. I know it really doesn't matter, but I will do it anyways. I'm saddened and enraged at our electoral situation. Thanks for the vid.
Dude....Dont give up yet. If you and I and everyone that believe in Ron Paul take this attitude then all is lost....We have to keep up the fight. Wrong is wrong and WE are RIGHT so dont give it up just yet.
I don't vote because 1) one vote doesn't fucking matter anyway and 2) if I vote, I'm part of the system.
Apjooz 2 weeks ago
if your vote don't count and they place in office who they want to you think ron paul don't know this something doesn't add up here
imthrowed94 1 month ago
oh guess your not back . . .
toadenk 1 month ago
RON PAUL 2012!
WJValente 2 months ago
@bxjam85 Oh. I guess you've never seen the movie "Starship Troopers". After your comment on suffrage, I'd be curious to see what you think of it...
TheLogicJunkie 2 months ago
do a YouTube search for "starship troopers citizens civilians" and watch the first video that comes up...
TheLogicJunkie 2 months ago
So you're a Starship Trooper?
TheLogicJunkie 2 months ago
You have a beautiful mind!
InvisibleFriend77 5 months ago
The Bilberbergs, CFR and Trilateral Commission make the decisions on the POTUS.
trewells 7 months ago
And Bush 41 heads the olanetary covert murder network that fear-steers all the heads of state and industry, all across the planet. He runs Skull and Bones and the CIA, and if you don't tow his line, you end up assassinated by a "lone nut".
TheLogicJunkie 7 months ago
The system needs to fall apart and be rebuilt. Hopefully into something better. The fact that a clown that has been paid off via coporate campaign contributions can make a decision in washington that applies to someone in Idaho is sickening.
The best thing for the US would be for it to break into smaller units, that way the politicians are always close enough that you can choke them with your bare hands if necessary.
lilbromarky1 1 year ago 4
I agree completely with you about the fragmentation issue -- I think there is a "maximum accountability capacity" that a society or nation can have, in terms of both area of land and population density, before it starts giving way to untouchable centralized corruption. I think that breaking up an unwieldly country into smaller ones makes sense.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
Im glad I separated from society when I was younger....fortunate that i learned at a pretty early age how the world really is
ramindsr 1 year ago 2
I love your videos so true people like us truly are in the minority
BlackPoisonxX 1 year ago
I agree with you about this subject matter.
13SuperKings 1 year ago
Your videos are basically carbon copies of my views. Its a shame that so many people cant open their eyes to realize this. People like yourself with actual logic and who have things figured out are the minority. The media and new american ways are like a snowball rollin down a hill and we are the snow. It just keeps picking up more and more and theres not much you can do about it after it has gathered so much. Keep it up
coreyrayj 1 year ago 2
Thank you very much. I do it because I think it needs to be done, but only for the benefit of people much like myself, with my frame of mind, who usually have to suffer in silence, alone.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
what would ron paul do for this country? He is a republican hiding behind his "new policies".
NewWaveFan1 1 year ago
You have no evidence for there being any "deep, sinister motives" beneath his surface. There is either evidence, or no evidence. All you have of Ron Paul (or anyone else) is what he has openly shown to the world, and that is his capacity for argument, and his positions with regard to those arguments.
Is he being a two-faced phony, like Barack Obama, who wields hollow charisma and says whatever will get him elected. Perhaps -- but that is always a possibility with anyone.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
At least, however, he has devoted his life to the articulation of testable arguments and clear, thorough stances. Obama either bold-facedly lied while he was "campaigning", or spewed empty charisma jingo like "YES, WE CAN" and "CHANGE" -- both statements which actually communicate nothing of specific substance whatsoever.
Disgusting and disgraceful.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
@NewWaveFan1 your an idiot ron paul is a constitutionalist he would put fair trade into place to industrialize america stop the fed from stealing 90 percent of are money he cut these huge government programs like department of education did have it 10 years ago when i went to school and im just fine. The only reason why these corrupt politions grow the government is because its the job growth that are dead economy can grow so that how they are able to make it not look so bad by becoming comys
ecosby100 11 months ago
Hey Logic Junkie! I really love your videos, they help me relax everyday after school. It is nice to know that there are others that identify the fundamentally corrupt principles in today's society. I wish that you would make more videos though, have you decided to stop?
ninincnals 1 year ago
Thanks... glad you like 'em. And I've ordered a new video camera, so I should be putting up more videos again...
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
I agree completely. It's exactly like the episode of the Simpsons when the aliens, Kang and Kodo were posing as Clinton and Dole. Towards the end they say "It does not matter which way you vote. Either way your planet is doomed. Doomed. Doomed. " Either party are just wings of the same basic government.
mandaJt 1 year ago
*LOL* I forgot about those aliens... *L* And, yeah, that's very true.
...Here in America, they call them "Democrats" and "Republicans", but what they really ought to call them is "Good Cop" and "Bad Cop", because they swap turns pretending to be the the friend of the public, and the enemy of the public. Basically they are the "shepherd's crook and flail" of the ancient Egyptian pharaohs, where the real and ultimate goal is the gratification of the ruling pharaohs.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
Pepsi or Coke. That's what the choices are limited to with corporate control of the election process. What we need is pure clean water...which, in this day and age is becoming extremely difficult to find.
Sorry to chime in so late but I've only recently discovered you!
You eloquently articulate things that I've been wanting to say but don't because of a lack of audience out here in Japan!
MrJohnnysakai 1 year ago
Well, no worries. And I have no idea how anything is going to get fixed, aside from a massive, across-the-board die-off. America doesn't seem to have even a shred of real character any more.
Anyhow, glad you found me -- how are things in Japan?
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
@TheLogicJunkie David, you need to come out here and check it out for yourself! I voted with my feet in '89 and left LA to come out here. Next time you get that burned out sensation, come out here and be my guest for as long as you need to recharge your batteries! We can compare notes on the Greatest Heartbreak Story of All Time! Do I have a doosey to tell!
MrJohnnysakai 1 year ago
Well, I just might have to take you up on that, because I do firmly believe that voting with your feet is one of the only true ways to make real and lasting change.
TheLogicJunkie 1 year ago
Ron Paul should have won the nomination for the republican party. It was probably rigged for McCain. He rasied the most money, won most all the text polls (and that's people actually watching TV, not web sufters), had great applauses at the debates. McCain was at the very bottom of the polls all the way until weeks before the priliminaries. Either, people that vote, rely completely on the media to tell them who to vote for or it was rigged. No other real way around this one.
bweazel 2 years ago
Of course it was.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
You hit the nail on the head with this one. Well, accept that the democratic system was invalidated long before 2000. It's fairly well-documented that have been rigged before the turn of the last century.
llriv 2 years ago
Thanks for pointing that out.
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
Not only the ballot system is rigged, but you don't really have to much of a choice when it come to selecting a candidate that you think would make a good president since obviously you only have two choices , and those platform presented by the two choices don't differ that much , they just disagree on how to distribute our hard earn money
suboreo 3 years ago
not voting is basically saying "I want to be a slave with no choice" people like you who make this country shit its the person who is just there. fuckin stand up and do something about then. VOTE THIRD PARTY so other people can be like "wow third party is getting a lot of votes" your fuckin worthless man
Theateam911 3 years ago
I don't know. I'd call you, the person who votes and gets their political fix for four years fucking worthless. This guy makes a great point. It's funny you think your vote actually counts for anything but your own appeasement.
bweazel 2 years ago
I agree on the whole with what you say. As George Carlin said, these politicians are simply there to give us the illusion that we've got a choice. We have no choice, we have owners. Any thinking person can recognize that this country was bought, sold and paid for a long time ago.
burkedevlin67 3 years ago
It's sad, but probably true.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
TheLogicJunkie:
Point taken. However, you're point seems to be nothing more than conspiracy theory. There's really no solid evidence to suggest that our votes are being tampered with more than before. I understand the desire not to be made a fool of, however you really are just making an assumption.
I agree there is a media bias against 3rd parties.
I watched the CNN interview, but the other two videos in your links were removed.
That being said, maybe we should return to paper ballots.
superdog797 3 years ago
The documentary in question is called "Hacking Democracy".
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
It takes less time to vote usually (not counting travel time,standing in line) than it did for you too make this video. If you don't vote, don't complain (that actually was directed to all who decide "not" to vote).
Rokdog 3 years ago
You completely missed my point. I wish you would have actually watched the video.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Do me a favor. Since it is very obvious you voted in the election, please stay dedicated to watching the person you voted for. It has nothing to do with the time it takes to vote. Your comment shows how little you actually understand his opinion. Your vote was really meaningless. Doubly so if you have not kept up with current events. You really should type in George Carlin Voting in the search bar. ; )
bweazel 2 years ago
What? I voted in the election? When did this happen?
TheLogicJunkie 2 years ago
Did I accidentally click on you to reply? It was meant to go someone else who posted on here. No, it was not meant for you. I agree with you.
bweazel 2 years ago
Why can't you spend 20 minutes of your time to vote anyway? Go out and vote Ron Paul, vote whoever, but sitting on your ass really won't change anything either.
Silence means nothing. It means nothing. It allows someone to come in a bully themselves into power without any indication of public consent. You see people rallying around Ron Paul? That should be you. Pledge to those you think should be running this country. It shows a hell of a lot more than inaction.
CineCrab 3 years ago
I admire your conviction and, if there were anything besides voting that I could do to support Paul, I would. Do you have any suggestions
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Amen, brother!
VettRose 3 years ago
The change our country needs does not lie within politicians it lies within us.
CrystalDawn0 3 years ago
I feel exactly the same. Besides not voting, I'm just trying to get the word out and inform my friends and family about all the lies that are accepted as truth. Thanks for the post. Keep up the good work!
variableveracity 3 years ago
I totally agree I dont vote because when you get into politics its a dirty organization I dont believe any one of the president hopefulls Its just entertainment and racial issues especially this time around dont trust no one white or black America dont give a damn.
Texas903G 3 years ago 6
Ron Paul wacos? They do go over the top even more than the Obomamites
Cueil 3 years ago
Why has this only been viewed 376 times?
tjenkins83 3 years ago
*shrugs*
I don't know. I'm not dancing in a stormtrooper costume, I suppose.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
that would be awsome though and very appropriate... breaking away from the rest of the clones haha
Cueil 3 years ago
Even near Lawrence, KS, probably the most liberal city east of California, Ron Paul was the guy. However, it's like you said, the ones who really decide it didn't cover him.
tjenkins83 3 years ago
I'm a Canadian who has voted in just about every election (federal and provincial) since I turned 18. I am nearing the point of never voting again. There is no democracy in the Western world anymore. Not in Europe, not in Canada and not in America. The corporate multi-nationals are running everything. Everything. And casting our individual votes is like pissing into the wind. The difference is, the big corporations are pissing on us at the same time.
Kaalec 3 years ago
It's pretty bad, yes.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
There is no need for a formal NAU. It is a de facto reality under the control of Wall Street. We are allowed the illusion of "voting" for our leaders, but there's very little real differences between them. Feed greed, give working people just enough toys to keep them distracted and threaten them with massive job losses whenever they start to stand up for themselves. Nothing new. The US Founding Fathers gave the vote only to land-owning white men. It wasn't democracy it was oligarchy
Kaalec 3 years ago
I don't even trust Ron Paul.
catdude122 3 years ago
how come?
JamesA7X8 3 years ago
I agree our election are very controlled and corrupt!
For me it's vote Nader or not vote.
The Nevada supreme court ruled to keep Dennis Kucinich out of the debates thus only allowing 3 democrats in the Nevada debate. Six republicans, including Ron Paul were allowed to debate!
The Orwellian decision said it was a protection of "free speech" to keep Kucinich out of the debate!
So why not vote Nader as a protest vote?
Peace.
nowellian 4 years ago
OK our elections are corrupt. Corporate media censored Dennis Kucinich and kept him out of the debate in Navada. Only 3 democrats were allowed in the debate and 6 republicans, including Ron Paul were allowed to debate.
The Navada supreme court ruled that corporate media "free speech" was protected by keeping Kucinich out of the debate!
So just don't vote is one option, another is to vote for Ralph Nader!
I choose to support Nader! What do you have to loose by making a protest vote?
nowellian 4 years ago
I totally understand where you're coming from with that, but I'm reasoning that I can cast a clear protest vote by abstaining from voting until the system is made honest...
TheLogicJunkie 4 years ago
While I wouldn't be surprised at foul play, Ive seen tons of Obama, Hillary, and Ron Paul supporters and don't have quite as pessimistic a view on the election.
JD877 3 years ago
And? Is the system now somehow safer because more people believe it's safe than just me? Does the sheer quantity of trust in something make it somehow more trustworthy?
If something is mechanically dangerous, then the extent of that danger is intrinsic to the mechanism itself, and is unaffected by the "good vibrations" of countless chanting supporters who all try to believe a change its fundamental nature into existence.
At best, that's naivete. At worst, it's magical thinking.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
I haven't voted in 4 years. I just don't think the elections are predetermined as well as you say they are. Atleast considering the sloppy manner in which Bush stole the White House in 2000.
JD877 3 years ago
Fair enough...
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
While I have a slightly more "it's that way but lets fight to get it back on track." However your candid manner is really REALLY refreshing.
Good Stuff.
Ron Paul 2008!
^lol
boatsdahippo 4 years ago
Well, I'm definitely glad you liked it. I personally have come to think, however, that lobbying is probably a much better expenditure of your efforts.
In fact, there's a great new book by the economist Tim Harford, called "The Logic of Life", that really lays it on the line and says exactly the same thing.
TheLogicJunkie 4 years ago
I've been saying almost the exact same thing for the longest time! Everyone I talk to about this comes up with some kind of ignorant excuse on why voting matters.
I agree that we need to exercise our "right to vote" but if anything, our "right to vote" has been compromised a long time ago.
You mentioned that our President has already been chosen behind closed doors and this all an act. I couldn't agree more. United States of America, your next President is $ Obama $ - whether you like it or not.
jonamato 4 years ago
I agree completely with the underlying SENTIMENT behind voting -- that doing something is better than not doing something -- but voting tends to only work in those circumstances where things are perfectly open to inspection by a public who are hot under the collar, and where the voting supervisors' foreheads are covered in a thin sheen of honest, glistening sweat.
TheLogicJunkie 4 years ago
I also tend to agree with your sentiment that Obama -- or $ Obama $, as you pretty cleverly describe him -- looks pretty good.
I strongly suspect that his enormous popularity in the press is being significantly bankrolled by ultra-wealthy Saudi oil cartels eager to get a president into the American White House who will quickly dismantle all challenges to radical Islamic supremacy of the world.
Paddy Chayefsky wrote about exactly this in his classic 1976 film, "Network". A great film.
TheLogicJunkie 4 years ago
What do you think about the North American Union conspiracy theories?
JD877 3 years ago
I think that no one ever lost money by underestimating human intelligence.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
It doesn't surprise me that christians believe it's true, but quite a few atheist believe it's true to (Muaguana, VirtualHolocaust, Tommyfromthebronx, etc.)
JD877 3 years ago
Well, for whatever it's worth, I personally think that it's probably true. Trust is for suckers nowadays.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
I want to know why hasn't the NAU already happened. It isn't like we haven't had flaming globalists in the white house for the past 20 years.
JD877 3 years ago
Didn't Lou Dobbs previously report that Bush had already covertly signed the NAU into existence?
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Is there proof for this? Were still the US, Mexico, South America and Canada last I saw. If Rockefeller's family is indescribably rich and globalist politicians have been in his pocket for the past 20 years or more, why aren't we just the NAU by now?
JD877 3 years ago
From what I understand, we already ARE the NAU now... they just haven't told the public.
Check out some of the new videos I just put on my "favorites". Lou Dobbs is the person who's been covering it the closest.
You'll notice that the NAU conspirators have already started recruiting and arming select thugs and killers to serve as their "official" enforcers.
When it comes right down to it, what makes any government "legitimate" is when you have armed killers to enforce its will.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
ok cool
JD877 3 years ago
Why have they allowed us to own guns, much less assault weapons? When have dictators trusted civilians with guns?
JD877 3 years ago
Good point, but it seems as though gun owners were more respected under the presidencies of people like Reagan, and less under people like Clinton. I recall that it was under Clinton's watch that incidents like Waco and such happened, whereby Janet Reno and her gang escalated it into an exercise in brute force domination, damn the consequences in terms of loss of life.
I'm not wild about religion or anything, but I do think that people should be allowed to their private protection.
TheLogicJunkie 3 years ago
Lulz, maybe things will turn into the old west again.
JD877 3 years ago
We have a good chance of McCain being president who strongly supports the right to own guns. I also hear that the NAU are going to make us join the military. What next, are they going to allow for ownership of rpg's?
JD877 3 years ago
Glad to see someone still has a brain.Voting is futile
Xabbo718 4 years ago
Glad you agree.
TheLogicJunkie 4 years ago
If there was a fair and honest national election it would statistically not be worth my time to participate.
RadicalDreamerX 4 years ago
Hahahaha...
You know, I just read a book called "The Logic of Life", and the writer, an economist, was essentially saying in it that voting is just plain thermodynamically not worth the time and energy it takes to vote.
The writer says that, in terms of return on your investment of time and energy, don't waste your time voting... spend your time lobbying. The voting process is basically a publicity stunt.
TheLogicJunkie 4 years ago
you need some loving, type "NLP", click search, slow down your inner dialogue, and relax, listen to some music or so,
G E T O V E R I T.
all the best
hansxxxx666 4 years ago
I agree with 90% of what you say. I will vote for Ron Paul. I know it really doesn't matter, but I will do it anyways. I'm saddened and enraged at our electoral situation. Thanks for the vid.
deedub87 4 years ago
Dude....Dont give up yet. If you and I and everyone that believe in Ron Paul take this attitude then all is lost....We have to keep up the fight. Wrong is wrong and WE are RIGHT so dont give it up just yet.
cutlass8888 4 years ago