Thank you for your brutal honesty. So much easier to digest. I spent 38 years as a hardcore xian AND muslim. And that tiny bit of doubt NEVER went away. However, I didnt know how to address it or get rid of it. and you are right, I prayed, fasted, spent ALL my waking hours engrossed in my fairy tale books. Fear was the brick wall that kept me from further investigation. Ive only been an atheist for a year but i havent regretted ONE MOMENT!
Although there are several books that come to mind, these three books will certainly clarify some things and more importantly set you on a lifelong quest for "more, more, more" knowlege.
I have subscribe your channel. Watched many of your video and comment on some. just a few years back I turn 99% Athiest I haven't got any nightmare since and still that fuzzy feeling that still engraved in my mind of ghost. Very very little though.
I'm new to your channel in the past months. Science saved my soul brought me here. I keep feeling hesitant to watch some of your videos because I keep thinking they can't ALL be good and if I watch all of them I'll end up being disappointed with some of them. But that hasn't happened. Some aren't as artistic or mind-blowing, but they are all enlightening and entertaining.
Books, especially those on science and philosophy are terrible horrible evil things. They push back ignorance and satisfy curiosity, while at the same time provoking an even more insatiable curiosity to find more facts and fit them into the puzzle. Alcohol and drugs and gambling never robbed me of as much sleep as reading
Im a EX radical theist, no i freed myself from this bullshit!!! i alaways asked myself why did you wast 16years of your life with such ridiculous bullshit?!? well becouse my prents told me so as i was young, like we all were, but one thing your parents and curch cen't take fro you KNOWLEDGE! so inform yourselfs!!!! greetings from russia!
Im a EX radical theist, no i freed myself from this bullshit!!! i alaways asked myself why did you wast 16years of your life with such ridiculous bullshit?!? well becouse my prents told me so as i was young, like we all were, but one thing your parents and curch cen't take fro you KNOWLEDGE! so inform yourselfs!!!! greetings from russia!
ive been carrusing your vids the last few days, love you, love yur accent, love your style and message... sooooo much.
im curious what you think about esoteric agenda, the so called new age movement and the "I am God" psuedo science comming from the secret and truther type conspiracy stuff... some of it hits a cord with me, alot of it looks manufactured for fear, like a couter for those who wont buy religion and societal norms.. so confused, i love life, but im scared and confused
I know what you mean by that fear it happened to me today i was in the car with the missus and i felt something touch my shoulder (really it was just a nerve twiching) but i thought it was a hand on my shoulder so i screamed like a girl (not a good thing to do in a car) which caused us to nearly crash
Wonderfully said. I'm new to atheism after many years of religion... Stepping back and asking broader questions, repeatedly, has really helped me find truth - and it is setting me free. I'm about halfway through Sagan's, "The Demon-Haunted World," and find myself laughing at loud. It's easy to ask, "How could I have been a fool for so long?" The important thing is that one realizes it.
I know what you're going through. I understand the joyful laughter. It wasn't your fault that that they had you fooled. But your escape is all down to you. All that brainwashing, all those lies, all that fear...and they STILL couldn't keep you. Well done. :)
It must be an interesting experience to go through that "process" as an adult. I stopped believing in god when I was 8 or 9 and I hardly remember anything about it, it just sort of clicked.
Anyway, as I said, to go through it as an adult... must be quite the experience. Not exactly pleasurable, rather intense and profound.
Having such broad questions answered in such a way as to be concise, elegant, and complete is satisfying. It is so much more satisfying then religion could ever be.
Hehehe... I just coooouldn't resist thinking of TVshop once you where talking about phones.
*voice over by TVshop* "Call in now to order your set of books that disperses the fear of HELL! ...but wait! there is more! order a second set as a gift pack to give away to a friend or a loved one with a $5 discount and we'll throw in a very special gift for you to enjoy! This FANTASTIC finger safe all plastic grater! no more sore knuckles from grating!
funny what u said about how reading and learning about physics made both u and the girl giggle in places. Cos I thought I was the only one!!! lol. I bought "The Elegant Universe" last month and I was so enthralled, amazed and excited upon reading about the brilliant absurdities of general and special relativity I just kept laughing and I didnt quite know why. I was partly laughing out of shock and party at the joy of having such knowledge. sadly I dont really hav the time for more cos of Uni. :/
I've tried to figure out why sometimes I smile or laugh out loud when reading so-called "heavy" science. It has to be a good clear explanation. It has to answer something I have often asked myself.
I think the overall feeling is one of being "naughty", like cheating. It's almost too easy. The secrets of the Universe, things that all the GREAT minds of the past ached to know and despaired of ever knowing, and there I am, in the bath, finding the answers, the priceless knowledge, in a cheap book.
Sounds like a good read,but I cant trust my borders to order stuff,took them three months to get a DVD,which I eventually gave up on*it was out for a month prior*Plus i'm broke XP.
Aimee - Looked at your channel and saw ALL your recent comments on videos are about Hell, and sinners burning. It is your obsession. You WANT to believe that. It is not about heaven for you. it is about hell for those who live free of the Jesus fairy tale. Why do you WANT to believe, and have others believe, such cartoon nonsense? This, your one life, is going to be spent as a cartoon existence, hating so many people for no reason. You are going to die. Face it, and live.
I'm not sure if this is in the same league as Carl Sagan, but Bill Bryson's 'A short history of nearly everything' answered most of my questions about how scientists know what they know.
As I know you've read it as well so could you please tell me how it compares?
Good question. I can see how Bryson's EXCELLENT book would have the same effect (teaching not only what is known but how it came to be known). The main difference that springs to mind is that Sagan focuses almost exclusively on the big picture, and writes about it with infectious awe. His "vision" seems to not only /dilute/remove religious delusion but can actually replace it with sheer perspective.
LOL. Seriously, LOL. I should have included that in the list. Perhaps you have given me an idea for a future video. The 2 greatest literary arguments against gods: the Bible and the Quran.
Haha, glad I could help. "The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is another good one. It makes the statement that just because an idea can't be disproved, doesn't mean it should be taken seriously, and it makes it better than any other literary work I've read. Stephen Hawkin, John Gribbin, Sam Harris, Brian Greene and Richard Dawkins are just overkill.
@Tchom22 So true. The one time I called myself a Christian, I didn't read the Bible any more than reading along with what the pastor read from the New Testament or Genesis. I read a few parts of the Bible as an Agnostic straight through and was shocked--and I could see that if I really read the whole thing as a Christian, I would've converted quickly.
Some day, I plan on reading the whole thing straight through with highlighters--still plotting what to assign to each highlighter color.
I was reading John Gribbin when I was 10 years old. As I'm sure you know, his writings blew me away!! I intend to read the other books/authors you mentioned. Very cool video!! Very cool message! Thanks for sharing with the world. Nice to discover I'm not the only one ...
My a-ha books were The First Three Minutes (Weinberg 1977), A Brief History of Time (Hawking 1988) and two tomes I cannot mention seperately because of their diametral stance regarding A.I.: Gödel, Escher, Bach (Hofstadter 1979) and The Emperor's New Mind (Penrose 1989).
It all began for me however with "Im Anfang war der Wasserstoff" (Hoimar von Ditfurth 1972).
Interesting. First Three Minutes, Brief History Of Time and Emperor's New Mind were all in my first ten, I think.
It's just knowledge isn't it. When you know certain things Hell just starts to sound silly, even funny, UNTIL you remember some people are telling children it's real.
Not just knowledge -- also attitude and perspective. As I'm writing this, I'm still under the impression of "The Fantastic Planet" by René Laloux and Roland Topor I just watched (misstrisch uploaded it in 8 parts). When I was a small child that film acquainted me with the notion of humankind NOT necessarily being the "crown of creation". YT is *great* for reviving this kind of memories. (Apropos tv: the science programs I watched back then sure did their job as well.)
Cosmos was one of the first books I read on my journey. The second one was The First Three Minutes by Weinberg, which was my introduction to the quantum world. After that, I subscribed to Scientific American magazine and read every issue, almost cover to cover. The joy of discovery is much more satisfying than the emotional slavery imposed by dogmatic religion.
Heya Phil - was in the bookstore yesterday finding for something to get me through a week living in a hostel and literally bumped into "In search of Schrodingers cat" knew I had heard the title from somewhere and rememberd it was one of your recommendations so duly bought it. Just giving you my thanks for letting me know about this book. It is blowing my mind!
Yup, that book changes your entire world, fills in a LOT of gaps and points out some that might never be filled. Glad you found it. More glad you like it. :)
Nobody uses atoms. They do ONLY what they MUST do according to the laws of physics. If you believe otherwise you need a much better reason than a means by which a god could interfere with the Universe. That is NOT reasoning, just wishful thinking. Our minds have found ways to see to the edge of the Universe. I would not call that "puny". It is probably impossible to determine the "Truth" of the Universe. To think it is contained in a religious text really IS puny, IMO.
I think you'll be amazed at what is known and, perhaps equally amazed at the story of how humans figured this stuff out. There was a moment in the film Contact, where Jodie Foster playing a scientist got to see a galaxy from outside and it hit hard. Even though her character had all the numbers in her head, all she could say was, "I had no idea..." The moment I saw that scene I remembered the feeling.
granted cosmos books can change perspective but we have only been to the moon in space terms and not too long ago humans thought the world was pear shaped science is changing all the time is all im saying
I've been agenizing for quit some time about your last point: "If I were a god I think I'd look kindly on those who took an interest in the universe I'd made for them." I'm on the fence as to weather or not there is a god, so I ran out to buy Cosmos today. I've only read the intro so far (I'm a slow reader), I'll read more tonight. Thanks for the tip.
I'll be VERY interested you hear what you think of the book and the perspective it presents. Come back and let me know what you think after you've read it (no rush, a slow reader may just be a thorough reader). And no agonizing. I forbid it. Finding answers, finding that there ARE answers will become pleasurable once you get a taste for it. At least ONCE during the book you should feel it for yourself. :)
If I ever manage to finish it I promise I'll share my thoughts. I'm a bit of a scatter brain so there's no telling if and when I will, but I'll try to stick to it.
richard dawkins said there is a big big possibility that religion is causing us to go back in evoloution instead of evolving to become more understanding and possibly better people,
Thanks for the recommendations. I very much enjoy your videos and style. Have you read anything by Ray Kurzweil, "The Singularity is Near"? Although, some call it the rapture for nerds, you should check out his stuff. Cheers.
There's always the library too - you know, the place with the free books. Libraries are all too happy to order books when someone takes the time to request one, even if they don't have these particular ones in the catalog. I've never been turned down requesting even obscure or highly specialized books.
Atom was the best thing the Beeb has done for science in a very long time. Episode 2 was just about perfect. "Everything wants to be iron." Brilliant explanation of the stability every element "seeks". Ep2 will be required viewing when I am dictator (nobody leaves school until it's memorised, INCLUDING parents!).
For $30, the Church of the Subgenius offers eternal salvation - or triple your money back. With that sort of guarantee, you might want to lower your price to $27 (to get a slight competitive edge).
Loved In Search Of Schrodinger's Cat by John Gribbin, it was the best book I ever bought in an airport (and if I can read it - ANYONE can). Haven't read his big bang book. Good job spreading the word, man!
Here are some more rivetting cures for fear-based fuzzy thinking; 'The Demon-Haunted World' Carl Sagan, 'Bad Astronomy' Phil Plait, 'Why People Believe Weird Things' Michael Shermer, 'Flim-Falm' James Randi, 'The God Delusion' Richard Dawkins, 'God is Not Great' Christopher Hitchens. Profoundly liberating stuff!
Those are all great books! But think about this; All of you experience of the stars is created within you body...When you look up and see them, that is within you brain. :)
Hmmm, I bought the wrong 3 books? Mine are working pretty well though. And Big Bang is erasing my gap filling related guilt quite nicely, shame on you and thankyou Einstein : )
Oh there's no doubt you bought and read the RIGHT 3 books. There are many "right" books. There are many I could have chosen from, but just went for the ones that worked for me and seem to work well together, particularly in that sequence, light and poetic first, meat and deeper detail to follow, all very easy to read and grasp. I was thinking of a mind with "nowhere to start".
Barnes and Noble doesn't have John Gribbin in their archives. Three times I've tried to get both In Search of the Big Bang, and In Search of Shrodinger's cat, and three times they told me the books don't exist. That said, I found them on Amazon, now all I have to do is scrounge the money to buy them.
"Scrounge". I had NO idea Americans said that too. And don't beat yourself up over the books Wolf, it's not as if you don't have the "flavor" of this stuff already. ;)
I read one of Gribbin's books a few years back (Stardust) and it was absolutely brilliant. If you mail me your address I'll post it to you, I think it was a freebie I picked up from a newspaper at the time!
Excellent recommendations, Phil. Having seen the Cosmos television series in its entirity, I can say that I love Sagan. However, I've never read the book. How do the two compare? The series of Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe left out of a lot of the content in the book, but the Cosmos series is much longer.
The book includes some areas not covered in the TV series and vise versa. I suppose the decision was based on which medium that particular subject required. I'd seen the TV series before I bought the book but I still found the book worth it, if only to "hear" Uncle Carl in my head. I now have the DVD and watch the series at least twice a year.
Right. Excellent. A Person can know that there is something wrong with religion, but still be afraid that it could be true. The nagging fear can be torture for a person. IN my opinion, A real God wouldn't allow such inner turmoil. He would appreciate the curiosity and thirst for truth and knowledge. Truth seeking would be a virtue. Knowledge would not be forbidden fruit.
I don't why everyone doesn't love science like me and you Phil. I think everyone should love it. It just needs to be put to them in a way that will get them into it.
The fear of death is a powerful thing. To face science they instinctively know they must face the reality of death. They think they won't be able to bare the "horror" of it all, without realizing that deep down they almost accept it anyway. They just need to be in the mood to do something they haven't done for a while...think for themselves.
Another great video, Phil. I admitted a lingering and deeply rooted fear of hell on the FFF (Free From Fear) video. I am an atheist with an almost subconscious dungheap in my head implanted when I was too young to reason it out. These books may help me, too. In any case, a little new knowldge is certainly worth $30, and a lot more. You are one of my favorite posters on YouTube.
If you've never read any science "popularizations" before, and you have the interest and curiosity, I'm fairly confident that you'll enjoy it. You might even be amazed, which is certainly worth a few bucks. And the history of the search for answers can read like a whodunit. But, just to be on the safe side, take 'em one at a time. :)
REALLY looking forward hearing what you make of Schrodinger's Cat. The atomic world was NOT what I had previously imagined it to be, yet it filled so many gaps, some gaps I hadn't even been aware of before. Fingers crossed that you like it.
So many books so little time. Lucky for me I have read those books except Cosmos and as coincidence would have it, I am expecting it to arrive tomorrow.
Yes. Read the books and you will lose your fear of Hell. You would pick up enough facts, enough would make sense to you, for the idea of Hell to be laughable. You'd wonder how you EVER believed it, even for a second. But, if you don't think that's worth 30 bucks...
Thank you for your brutal honesty. So much easier to digest. I spent 38 years as a hardcore xian AND muslim. And that tiny bit of doubt NEVER went away. However, I didnt know how to address it or get rid of it. and you are right, I prayed, fasted, spent ALL my waking hours engrossed in my fairy tale books. Fear was the brick wall that kept me from further investigation. Ive only been an atheist for a year but i havent regretted ONE MOMENT!
RelativelyClear 2 months ago
Best line EVER... But then I would have told Adam and Eve to eat ONLY from the Tree of Knowledge...
cindybydesign 2 months ago
Dollars? Don't you pay with Pounds in the U.K.?
karlmall 3 months ago
You've changed my life
Yourfrontallobe 8 months ago
Good comments here, video is kind of boring though.
MsAgnosticatheist 9 months ago
Although there are several books that come to mind, these three books will certainly clarify some things and more importantly set you on a lifelong quest for "more, more, more" knowlege.
happy questing!
MrAudiovideodisco 9 months ago
I have subscribe your channel. Watched many of your video and comment on some. just a few years back I turn 99% Athiest I haven't got any nightmare since and still that fuzzy feeling that still engraved in my mind of ghost. Very very little though.
ShinWR1 10 months ago
I'm new to your channel in the past months. Science saved my soul brought me here. I keep feeling hesitant to watch some of your videos because I keep thinking they can't ALL be good and if I watch all of them I'll end up being disappointed with some of them. But that hasn't happened. Some aren't as artistic or mind-blowing, but they are all enlightening and entertaining.
brajamtho757 11 months ago
All I needed was to watch one Nick Gisburne video, and I was an atheist, fairly quickly.
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bringonthewrath 1 year ago
Books, especially those on science and philosophy are terrible horrible evil things. They push back ignorance and satisfy curiosity, while at the same time provoking an even more insatiable curiosity to find more facts and fit them into the puzzle. Alcohol and drugs and gambling never robbed me of as much sleep as reading
foxholeathiest 1 year ago
Oh, that's what you look like ;)
I love your videos and your love for the truth. I crack up when you say "bullshit", it's epic.
Peace, love and rationalism from Germany ;)
Ma3Hu1 1 year ago
If I shoplift the books will I go to hell?
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Im a EX radical theist, no i freed myself from this bullshit!!! i alaways asked myself why did you wast 16years of your life with such ridiculous bullshit?!? well becouse my prents told me so as i was young, like we all were, but one thing your parents and curch cen't take fro you KNOWLEDGE! so inform yourselfs!!!! greetings from russia!
RedGunBullets 1 year ago
Im a EX radical theist, no i freed myself from this bullshit!!! i alaways asked myself why did you wast 16years of your life with such ridiculous bullshit?!? well becouse my prents told me so as i was young, like we all were, but one thing your parents and curch cen't take fro you KNOWLEDGE! so inform yourselfs!!!! greetings from russia!
RedGunBullets 1 year ago
That's strange.The Vatican usually charges more than this.
>:]
ChanGengYun 1 year ago
you dont have to waste your time reading a gay book just to know that people get brainwashed
eduardo14l 1 year ago
ive been carrusing your vids the last few days, love you, love yur accent, love your style and message... sooooo much.
im curious what you think about esoteric agenda, the so called new age movement and the "I am God" psuedo science comming from the secret and truther type conspiracy stuff... some of it hits a cord with me, alot of it looks manufactured for fear, like a couter for those who wont buy religion and societal norms.. so confused, i love life, but im scared and confused
shaktishiver 1 year ago
Science Disproves Religion, Or Religions, Because All Religions There Are Highly UnLikely, True... Our Brains Causes The Beliefs...
777TIZZable 1 year ago
My view is!
there is nothing after death.
I hoop That Ill B Born In Another Beter Planet Or Els Than This Fucking Earth ;0(
Loccolitto 1 year ago
Sweetheart, you ARE talking to ME.
RockyWhyNot 1 year ago
This is a great video ,,, Thank you
npf2135 1 year ago
This is a great video ,,, Thank you
npf2135 1 year ago
Great video phil. More ex-theists should do more videos like this.
pokerslut530 1 year ago 2
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TRUST IN EVOLUTION OR YOU'RE GOING TO HELL!!!!!!1111111
(I think that I should make some bumper stickers with that slogan.. what do you guys think??)
pokerslut530 1 year ago
you don't need to know the recipe of science, to get the taste of understanding :)
TheReasonWhyGuy 1 year ago
brilliant ending
michaelwusa 2 years ago
thank you...
michaelwusa 2 years ago
thank you bruce willis
ebenezernightingale 2 years ago 8
lol, agreed - it's uncanny =p
leonrenege 2 years ago
Bruce Willis, is also an atheist.
So you might be on to something here.
fc007 2 years ago
6:33 ish. Your video about what fire was made me do just that. :)
AnimaRaptor 2 years ago
u are just like me :)
zack164 2 years ago
I would use the words satisfying, rewarding.
arsenelupin123 2 years ago
I know what you mean by that fear it happened to me today i was in the car with the missus and i felt something touch my shoulder (really it was just a nerve twiching) but i thought it was a hand on my shoulder so i screamed like a girl (not a good thing to do in a car) which caused us to nearly crash
HoffmansACID 2 years ago
I hope that you don't mind that your comment brought me a very nice laugh =)
the way you said it was funny lol
coolbeens21 2 years ago
Wonderfully said. I'm new to atheism after many years of religion... Stepping back and asking broader questions, repeatedly, has really helped me find truth - and it is setting me free. I'm about halfway through Sagan's, "The Demon-Haunted World," and find myself laughing at loud. It's easy to ask, "How could I have been a fool for so long?" The important thing is that one realizes it.
bobbeaverson 2 years ago 23
I know what you're going through. I understand the joyful laughter. It wasn't your fault that that they had you fooled. But your escape is all down to you. All that brainwashing, all those lies, all that fear...and they STILL couldn't keep you. Well done. :)
philhellenes 2 years ago 12
It must be an interesting experience to go through that "process" as an adult. I stopped believing in god when I was 8 or 9 and I hardly remember anything about it, it just sort of clicked.
Anyway, as I said, to go through it as an adult... must be quite the experience. Not exactly pleasurable, rather intense and profound.
Aslapacrosstheface 2 years ago 2
So true. I laughed so loud and for many hours. It felt so good.
badism 2 years ago
I'd personally start with Dawkins' The God Delusion (that's what got me into atheism, along with a lot of healthy debate..)
capillarian187 2 years ago
I am still in the middle of reading Feynman's "Six Easy Pieces"
fc007 2 years ago
to add to paxmax's comment:
"we'll also throw in a bonus: more knowledge on how the universe works, and you won't be afraid of death. ORDER NOW AND FREE YOUR MIND!"
parodyking23 2 years ago
lol, i'd love to have them, but i have no money.
parodyking23 2 years ago
Having such broad questions answered in such a way as to be concise, elegant, and complete is satisfying. It is so much more satisfying then religion could ever be.
Silbar89 3 years ago
Cosmos - Carl Sagan found it in amazon for 49 cents and a few dollars shipping like 4 dollars and 50 cents in total
Migslayer101 3 years ago 3
Hehehe... I just coooouldn't resist thinking of TVshop once you where talking about phones.
*voice over by TVshop* "Call in now to order your set of books that disperses the fear of HELL! ...but wait! there is more! order a second set as a gift pack to give away to a friend or a loved one with a $5 discount and we'll throw in a very special gift for you to enjoy! This FANTASTIC finger safe all plastic grater! no more sore knuckles from grating!
Call in now! our operators are standing by..."
Paxmax 3 years ago
funny what u said about how reading and learning about physics made both u and the girl giggle in places. Cos I thought I was the only one!!! lol. I bought "The Elegant Universe" last month and I was so enthralled, amazed and excited upon reading about the brilliant absurdities of general and special relativity I just kept laughing and I didnt quite know why. I was partly laughing out of shock and party at the joy of having such knowledge. sadly I dont really hav the time for more cos of Uni. :/
nomis101uk 3 years ago
I've tried to figure out why sometimes I smile or laugh out loud when reading so-called "heavy" science. It has to be a good clear explanation. It has to answer something I have often asked myself.
I think the overall feeling is one of being "naughty", like cheating. It's almost too easy. The secrets of the Universe, things that all the GREAT minds of the past ached to know and despaired of ever knowing, and there I am, in the bath, finding the answers, the priceless knowledge, in a cheap book.
philhellenes 3 years ago 3
"Fuzzy thoughts"? Don't they have medication for that?
TVParkdale 3 years ago
Sounds like a good read,but I cant trust my borders to order stuff,took them three months to get a DVD,which I eventually gave up on*it was out for a month prior*Plus i'm broke XP.
amiterisu 3 years ago
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Repent from your sins because Hell is real. If you choose to continue to not believe then you will soon realize that you all were wrong.
aimeebooth 3 years ago
Aimee - Looked at your channel and saw ALL your recent comments on videos are about Hell, and sinners burning. It is your obsession. You WANT to believe that. It is not about heaven for you. it is about hell for those who live free of the Jesus fairy tale. Why do you WANT to believe, and have others believe, such cartoon nonsense? This, your one life, is going to be spent as a cartoon existence, hating so many people for no reason. You are going to die. Face it, and live.
philhellenes 3 years ago 17
Bullshit, and boring narcissistic bullshit at that. This Uptight Asshole thinks he is Hot Shit, but verily he is Smellie Bullshit.
This is not about Science. It is about Scientism, the Religion of Science. The practice of Science requires a measure of Humility.
writ by paul easton of bensonhurst
paul1easton 3 years ago
Is the word you're looking for 'fulfilling'?
BobTKaye 4 years ago
That would be a VERY good word for it. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
I'm not sure if this is in the same league as Carl Sagan, but Bill Bryson's 'A short history of nearly everything' answered most of my questions about how scientists know what they know.
As I know you've read it as well so could you please tell me how it compares?
DeadMindWorking 4 years ago 3
Good question. I can see how Bryson's EXCELLENT book would have the same effect (teaching not only what is known but how it came to be known). The main difference that springs to mind is that Sagan focuses almost exclusively on the big picture, and writes about it with infectious awe. His "vision" seems to not only /dilute/remove religious delusion but can actually replace it with sheer perspective.
philhellenes 4 years ago
I just needed one book. The Bible. I read it and it was freaking ridiculous.
Tchom22 4 years ago 44
LOL. Seriously, LOL. I should have included that in the list. Perhaps you have given me an idea for a future video. The 2 greatest literary arguments against gods: the Bible and the Quran.
philhellenes 4 years ago
Haha, glad I could help. "The Gospel of the Flying Spaghetti Monster" is another good one. It makes the statement that just because an idea can't be disproved, doesn't mean it should be taken seriously, and it makes it better than any other literary work I've read. Stephen Hawkin, John Gribbin, Sam Harris, Brian Greene and Richard Dawkins are just overkill.
Tchom22 4 years ago 2
@Tchom22 So true. The one time I called myself a Christian, I didn't read the Bible any more than reading along with what the pastor read from the New Testament or Genesis. I read a few parts of the Bible as an Agnostic straight through and was shocked--and I could see that if I really read the whole thing as a Christian, I would've converted quickly.
Some day, I plan on reading the whole thing straight through with highlighters--still plotting what to assign to each highlighter color.
Kairusan 1 year ago
I was reading John Gribbin when I was 10 years old. As I'm sure you know, his writings blew me away!! I intend to read the other books/authors you mentioned. Very cool video!! Very cool message! Thanks for sharing with the world. Nice to discover I'm not the only one ...
p.s. quit smoking
:)
gmpep3 4 years ago
My a-ha books were The First Three Minutes (Weinberg 1977), A Brief History of Time (Hawking 1988) and two tomes I cannot mention seperately because of their diametral stance regarding A.I.: Gödel, Escher, Bach (Hofstadter 1979) and The Emperor's New Mind (Penrose 1989).
It all began for me however with "Im Anfang war der Wasserstoff" (Hoimar von Ditfurth 1972).
leporidus 4 years ago
Interesting. First Three Minutes, Brief History Of Time and Emperor's New Mind were all in my first ten, I think.
It's just knowledge isn't it. When you know certain things Hell just starts to sound silly, even funny, UNTIL you remember some people are telling children it's real.
philhellenes 4 years ago
Not just knowledge -- also attitude and perspective. As I'm writing this, I'm still under the impression of "The Fantastic Planet" by René Laloux and Roland Topor I just watched (misstrisch uploaded it in 8 parts). When I was a small child that film acquainted me with the notion of humankind NOT necessarily being the "crown of creation". YT is *great* for reviving this kind of memories. (Apropos tv: the science programs I watched back then sure did their job as well.)
leporidus 4 years ago
lol
some even do it by marx's books
or darwin
miserable poors
HighFlyingDutchman 4 years ago
Haven't I blocked your propaganda-spilling ass yet?
Allow me to rectify my error. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
Cosmos was one of the first books I read on my journey. The second one was The First Three Minutes by Weinberg, which was my introduction to the quantum world. After that, I subscribed to Scientific American magazine and read every issue, almost cover to cover. The joy of discovery is much more satisfying than the emotional slavery imposed by dogmatic religion.
klangsteiner 4 years ago 4
Thanks for the book references, I'll check in with the bookstore sometime in the near future. :)
avens1212 4 years ago
Thx man ^_^
WtfJuju 4 years ago
I bought Cosmos out of a used book store's discount bin for twenty-five cents. It doesn't get any better then that.
bretkill 4 years ago
What price the secrets of the Universe?
25 cents? It's almost theft. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
Heya Phil - was in the bookstore yesterday finding for something to get me through a week living in a hostel and literally bumped into "In search of Schrodingers cat" knew I had heard the title from somewhere and rememberd it was one of your recommendations so duly bought it. Just giving you my thanks for letting me know about this book. It is blowing my mind!
ameliesmyth 4 years ago
Yup, that book changes your entire world, fills in a LOT of gaps and points out some that might never be filled. Glad you found it. More glad you like it. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
I'm happy for you.
However, there must have been a Grand Architect would created the Cosmos, who caused the Big Bang, and created (or uses) the Atom.
For our puny minds to determine the Truth of the universe is madness. We're just ants compared to the mystery of all. Keep searching.
GuardianOfTheElect 4 years ago
Nobody uses atoms. They do ONLY what they MUST do according to the laws of physics. If you believe otherwise you need a much better reason than a means by which a god could interfere with the Universe. That is NOT reasoning, just wishful thinking. Our minds have found ways to see to the edge of the Universe. I would not call that "puny". It is probably impossible to determine the "Truth" of the Universe. To think it is contained in a religious text really IS puny, IMO.
philhellenes 4 years ago
So what will you do, GOTE? Dismiss scientific progress because it's "madness" or stay curious and keep searching?
leporidus 4 years ago
It's far more than a spark... it's more like an inferno :) When I get ahold of these "redeemers" I'll let you know what happens :D
fapplemstar 4 years ago
I think you'll be amazed at what is known and, perhaps equally amazed at the story of how humans figured this stuff out. There was a moment in the film Contact, where Jodie Foster playing a scientist got to see a galaxy from outside and it hit hard. Even though her character had all the numbers in her head, all she could say was, "I had no idea..." The moment I saw that scene I remembered the feeling.
philhellenes 4 years ago
granted cosmos books can change perspective but we have only been to the moon in space terms and not too long ago humans thought the world was pear shaped science is changing all the time is all im saying
handsimjeff 4 years ago
I've been agenizing for quit some time about your last point: "If I were a god I think I'd look kindly on those who took an interest in the universe I'd made for them." I'm on the fence as to weather or not there is a god, so I ran out to buy Cosmos today. I've only read the intro so far (I'm a slow reader), I'll read more tonight. Thanks for the tip.
ArcaneKarma 4 years ago
I'll be VERY interested you hear what you think of the book and the perspective it presents. Come back and let me know what you think after you've read it (no rush, a slow reader may just be a thorough reader). And no agonizing. I forbid it. Finding answers, finding that there ARE answers will become pleasurable once you get a taste for it. At least ONCE during the book you should feel it for yourself. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
If I ever manage to finish it I promise I'll share my thoughts. I'm a bit of a scatter brain so there's no telling if and when I will, but I'll try to stick to it.
ArcaneKarma 4 years ago
If you WANT answers, if you want to force back the fog of not-knowing, you'll do it. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
Thank you.
nitro2158 4 years ago
You're very welcome. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
Liverpool won 2-0 :-)
VOETSEK111 4 years ago
You are evil.
philhellenes 4 years ago
richard dawkins said there is a big big possibility that religion is causing us to go back in evoloution instead of evolving to become more understanding and possibly better people,
laptony 4 years ago 2
Thanks for the recommendations. I very much enjoy your videos and style. Have you read anything by Ray Kurzweil, "The Singularity is Near"? Although, some call it the rapture for nerds, you should check out his stuff. Cheers.
urz14me 4 years ago
Playing Devil's Avocado. Gribbin has seriously blotted his copy book with the
Jupiter alignment guff in the 80's.
andwar99 4 years ago
Snake oil!
snowfeet 4 years ago
There's always the library too - you know, the place with the free books. Libraries are all too happy to order books when someone takes the time to request one, even if they don't have these particular ones in the catalog. I've never been turned down requesting even obscure or highly specialized books.
sirterl 4 years ago
Just starting "In Search of..." argghhh, I'm scared! Did you see the BBC4 series "Atom" btw? Really cool stuff
Billy7766 4 years ago
Atom was the best thing the Beeb has done for science in a very long time. Episode 2 was just about perfect. "Everything wants to be iron." Brilliant explanation of the stability every element "seeks". Ep2 will be required viewing when I am dictator (nobody leaves school until it's memorised, INCLUDING parents!).
philhellenes 4 years ago
I downloaded that and purchased the book that goes with the series :-D
Mjhavok 4 years ago
Excellent video, thanks.
happyjesus123 4 years ago
For $30, the Church of the Subgenius offers eternal salvation - or triple your money back. With that sort of guarantee, you might want to lower your price to $27 (to get a slight competitive edge).
D4Shawn 4 years ago
i'll be sure to read these books
universalwhat 4 years ago
Cosmos (Carl Sagan), My father bought me this book for my 16th birthday because of my enthusiasm for the TV series,
it remains my favourite non fiction book
The Selfish Gene (Richard Dawkins) anyone who doubts Evolution should read this book first,
The Ascent of Man (Dr. Jacob Bronowski) I would encourage anyone to either read the book or better still IMHO watch the DVD's, incredible stuf.
watchtheskies 4 years ago
Found the last 2 on Amazon Uk for a couple of quid each, result!
Thulsa790 4 years ago
Bargain! The price of intellectual freedom has never been cheaper!
philhellenes 4 years ago
I have most of those books...think I dont have Search of Schrodingers Cat yet
Dalbert342 4 years ago
great video man...AGAIN!! keep them coming. And whatever happened to good ol OURBEN? do u have any idea? thanks man, looking forward to more vids. :)
dojah720 4 years ago
I think Ourben has a lot of real-life on his plate at the moment.
philhellenes 4 years ago
Loved In Search Of Schrodinger's Cat by John Gribbin, it was the best book I ever bought in an airport (and if I can read it - ANYONE can). Haven't read his big bang book. Good job spreading the word, man!
Elaina43 4 years ago
All of these books should also be available through any self-respecting public libraries. This amazing freedom could be yours FREE of charge!
Barklord 4 years ago
Here are some more rivetting cures for fear-based fuzzy thinking; 'The Demon-Haunted World' Carl Sagan, 'Bad Astronomy' Phil Plait, 'Why People Believe Weird Things' Michael Shermer, 'Flim-Falm' James Randi, 'The God Delusion' Richard Dawkins, 'God is Not Great' Christopher Hitchens. Profoundly liberating stuff!
alien8ted 4 years ago
opps. sorry for omitting the r's on the word "your". It's a terrible typing habit that I make.
Barklord 4 years ago
Those are all great books! But think about this; All of you experience of the stars is created within you body...When you look up and see them, that is within you brain. :)
Barklord 4 years ago
Hmmm, I bought the wrong 3 books? Mine are working pretty well though. And Big Bang is erasing my gap filling related guilt quite nicely, shame on you and thankyou Einstein : )
thequestionmarkofGod 4 years ago
Oh there's no doubt you bought and read the RIGHT 3 books. There are many "right" books. There are many I could have chosen from, but just went for the ones that worked for me and seem to work well together, particularly in that sequence, light and poetic first, meat and deeper detail to follow, all very easy to read and grasp. I was thinking of a mind with "nowhere to start".
philhellenes 4 years ago
I have 2 out of 3. I guess that ain't bad. O_o terrible.
RobnJake 4 years ago
Barnes and Noble doesn't have John Gribbin in their archives. Three times I've tried to get both In Search of the Big Bang, and In Search of Shrodinger's cat, and three times they told me the books don't exist. That said, I found them on Amazon, now all I have to do is scrounge the money to buy them.
dragon2wolf 4 years ago
"Scrounge". I had NO idea Americans said that too. And don't beat yourself up over the books Wolf, it's not as if you don't have the "flavor" of this stuff already. ;)
philhellenes 4 years ago
simon singh is also great.
check out ``the big bang´´ and ``fermats last theorem´´, by simon singh.
kurtilein3 4 years ago
I've read one of Gribbins books. Can't remember which one it was now... Brillian read tho.
2LegHumanist 4 years ago
Phil, who actually calls bookstores anymore? Order the books online, it's a lot quicker and easier. ;)
siciliano29 4 years ago
LOL. I do! Can't you see I'm OLD dammit! :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
I second The Selfish Gene, although it was The Blind Watchmaker that really made everything "click" in my mind.
AtheistAaron 4 years ago
I read one of Gribbin's books a few years back (Stardust) and it was absolutely brilliant. If you mail me your address I'll post it to you, I think it was a freebie I picked up from a newspaper at the time!
joyork 4 years ago
That's a very kind offer. I may take you up on it one day. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
I had to buy that book. Dam bargain hunters.
Mjhavok 4 years ago
Excellent recommendations, Phil. Having seen the Cosmos television series in its entirity, I can say that I love Sagan. However, I've never read the book. How do the two compare? The series of Brian Greene's The Elegant Universe left out of a lot of the content in the book, but the Cosmos series is much longer.
AtheistAaron 4 years ago
The book includes some areas not covered in the TV series and vise versa. I suppose the decision was based on which medium that particular subject required. I'd seen the TV series before I bought the book but I still found the book worth it, if only to "hear" Uncle Carl in my head. I now have the DVD and watch the series at least twice a year.
philhellenes 4 years ago
Right. Excellent. A Person can know that there is something wrong with religion, but still be afraid that it could be true. The nagging fear can be torture for a person. IN my opinion, A real God wouldn't allow such inner turmoil. He would appreciate the curiosity and thirst for truth and knowledge. Truth seeking would be a virtue. Knowledge would not be forbidden fruit.
Brainmold 4 years ago
I would recommend the dvd collection set COSMOS by Sagan.its worth the money
dws1677 4 years ago
I recommend your recommendation. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
I recommend your recommendation of his recommendation.
ok enough.
Mjhavok 4 years ago
I don't why everyone doesn't love science like me and you Phil. I think everyone should love it. It just needs to be put to them in a way that will get them into it.
Mjhavok 4 years ago
The fear of death is a powerful thing. To face science they instinctively know they must face the reality of death. They think they won't be able to bare the "horror" of it all, without realizing that deep down they almost accept it anyway. They just need to be in the mood to do something they haven't done for a while...think for themselves.
philhellenes 4 years ago
What better way to stop the distraction of death than to evolve the capacity to believe it doesn't really exist? More time to procreate!
Octamed 4 years ago
If you live in a major city in the USA like I do, you can probably get them all through your local library for free.
KasparHauser4 4 years ago
Even BETTER! :D
philhellenes 4 years ago
Another great video, Phil. I admitted a lingering and deeply rooted fear of hell on the FFF (Free From Fear) video. I am an atheist with an almost subconscious dungheap in my head implanted when I was too young to reason it out. These books may help me, too. In any case, a little new knowldge is certainly worth $30, and a lot more. You are one of my favorite posters on YouTube.
Largo64 4 years ago
If you've never read any science "popularizations" before, and you have the interest and curiosity, I'm fairly confident that you'll enjoy it. You might even be amazed, which is certainly worth a few bucks. And the history of the search for answers can read like a whodunit. But, just to be on the safe side, take 'em one at a time. :)
philhellenes 4 years ago
Gotcha!
Largo64 4 years ago
The film ghostbusters got rid of my fear of ghosts - honestly, it really worked for me. And that fear is very real in people.
I bought the last two books you reccomended. Im half way through "In search of the big bang". "n Search Of Schrodinger's Cat" is next on my list.
You are right, fear of the supernatural is a handicap in life.
pdoeman 4 years ago
REALLY looking forward hearing what you make of Schrodinger's Cat. The atomic world was NOT what I had previously imagined it to be, yet it filled so many gaps, some gaps I hadn't even been aware of before. Fingers crossed that you like it.
philhellenes 4 years ago
A much needed gap? lol.
Mjhavok 4 years ago
Just a little science education renders these beliefs laughable. Well for me it does.
Mjhavok 4 years ago
So many books so little time. Lucky for me I have read those books except Cosmos and as coincidence would have it, I am expecting it to arrive tomorrow.
krew1618 4 years ago
And may I ask, in the interests of providing evidence for my claim, are you afraid of Hell, at all?
philhellenes 4 years ago
Short and sweet. No.
krew1618 4 years ago
Kinda thought you were gonna say that. ;)
philhellenes 4 years ago
I came to check up on you, still smoking I see:(
Btw, you lost me at $30. I can't spend that on nonsense! Will I get a refund if I don't loose my fear of Hell?
liliesandroses 4 years ago
Yes. Read the books and you will lose your fear of Hell. You would pick up enough facts, enough would make sense to you, for the idea of Hell to be laughable. You'd wonder how you EVER believed it, even for a second. But, if you don't think that's worth 30 bucks...
philhellenes 4 years ago
No but you will be pointed at and mocked.
Mjhavok 4 years ago
There is no nonesense, I promise. You might be capable of wasting money on fiction, but science and reality is never a waste.
thequestionmarkofGod 4 years ago
there is always the public library e-bay second hand book stores if $30 is really more then you can stand to spend
Ender1zero1 4 years ago