All I can say is "Don't Waste Your Life!" Getting into groups such as Exodus is wasting your life. So, don't do it. If you have a religious faith, there are churches out there that accept gays and have gay clergy: the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church and the United Church of Christ. Join one of them and stay away from these quack movements. Think of your own mental sanity and don't let anyone take that away through ex-gay groups.
Its funny you accuse me of picking and choosing, because my original point was that if you say homosexuality is wrong because of biblical teaching, then you are obligated to follow the rest of the law, i.e. keep the sabbath, not eating swine, to make a raped girl marry her rapist....i could go on. The thing is I don't accept the bible as law, so i'm not obliged to obey anything, i'm merely trying to point out the hyprocrisy within the christian gay bashers.
@jappud a TRUE REJECTER OF GOD, FOLLOWS NOTHING OF GOD and does EVERYTHING 100% OPPOSITE OF ANYTHING THAT HIS LAWS DICTATE. And, there are people in this world whom live like that and guess what GOD HAS MORE PATIENCE with them than with a person like you. Because you are LUKEWARM you follow GOD'S LAW where you find "befitting" but DO YOUR OWN THING on those things you don't find "befitting" how HYPOCRITICAL! But, you are entitled to REJECT GOD, but there are ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES and if you...
@jappud I believe in the DEATH PENALTY... They took lives, what makes their lives MORE just and deserving than the lives they took? Wake up kid! You reap what you you sow. The Amalekite were MURDERERS, they were not a righteous and innocent people, but a murdering people and you tell me that they should have been spared? Check your mirror bro and dig what you are saying, you are the one who ATTEMPTED TO LECTURE me about the Amalekites, but you did NOT expect me to KNOW THE HISTORY of them! :)
@jappud And, children in WAR are sometimes the Collateral Damage, but that is the sad fact of WAR. So, don't pretend you are so "righteous" because we all know that in a WAR sometimes the good must fall with the wicked. But, I know your problem... You got an AX TO GRIND AGAINST GOD because of "something" in your life, but don't take it out on me. It is always easier to resort to childish name calling ("bigoted fanatic") than to deal with the REAL ISSUES and REAL PROBLEMS of your SAD LIFE.
@jappud Nothing I said was HATEFUL nor BIGOTED, for GOD is there for anyone and everyone that wants to RECEIVE HIM and WELCOME HIM and guess what, I do NOT push that you MUST RECEIVE or WELCOME HIM, you are invited to NOT RECEIVE HIM and flat out REJECT HIM. God Himself gives us the RIGHT to do OUR OWN THING and REJECT HIS WAY, but put on your BIG BOY PANTS about it and understand that as with all things IN LIFE and AFTER THIS LIFE there are CONSEQUENCES to be had and if you can deal, GOOD 4 U.
@jappud And, you should NOT even be OFFENDED nor CARE about such AFTER LIFE CONSEQUENCES if you truly believe and trust in your heart that GOD DOES NOT EXIST and that there is NO HEAVEN or NO HELL. If you really believe that, then why get all fussy about what I say? :) You should NOT be ANGRY at me for telling you to DO YOUR THANG but KNOW that there is "another side" once you leave this life. You should pity me for being so silly to "think" such a thing! :) But, YOUR ANGER suggests that...
@jappud YOUR ANGER suggests that... I must have touched off a RAW NERVE with you. And, that shows just how unintelligent your position really is. I am NEVER upset about something that I truly do NOT believe. A Muslim, a Buddhist, a "whatever" can't piss me off about their beliefs because I categorically reject those beliefs and TRUST and KNOW in my HEART JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE, so what "they say" makes me fell like, OK. Rock On with that. :) But, to get pissed...
@jappud But, to get pissed and start NAME CALLING someone whom holds a DIFFERENT BELIEF would show MY IGNORANCE and actually lend MORE VALUE and CREDENCE that deep down I must have some real "concerns" and "issues" that their beliefs are so troubling to me that they are hence RELEVANT to me. Something that is FALSE should NOT invoke and evoke ANGER, unless it is NOT so FALSE after all! :) You act as if you MUST BE WORRIED that you will have to face GOD when you die. But, hey...
@jappud But, hey... Take that up with HIM. I did NOT write the BIBLE. I am merely a BELIEVER of it and have shared my most sincere BELIEF that there is NOTHING THAT GOD CAN NOT DO IN ONE'S LIFE if they BELIEVE and WILL ALLOW GOD TO DO WHAT OTHERS THINK IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE DONE. And, a person whom is practicing Homosexuality whom wants to bring their life into PERFECT HARMONY and PERFECT FELLOWSHIP with GOD can lay aside Homosexuality and find the GRACE to be a LIVING SACRIFICE UNTO THE LORD.
We know that God has always created, loved, and kept His homosexual children right here on His planet, as part of His divine plan. Deluded and/or indoctrinated men, manipulated by Satan, have often used the man-written Bible and its various myths, as weapons of hatred against their fellow man. These sad, oppressive people, who falsely believe they are spreading "God's word" are actually minions of Satan, sowing bigotry and discord against God's gay, black, Jewish children. May God forgive them.
@jappud Now, dig this... A Homosexual or ANY "sexual" or ANY person that feel their lives are just FINE without THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and feel as though they DO NOT need GOD present in their lives and REJECT the BIBLE, trust me that is just fine by me. If you see NO NEED for HIM, trust... Then YOU have NO NEED for HIM. But, just be sure to MAN UP and OWN it when you leave this world. And, one thing that is FOR SURE is that WE ALL WILL LEAVE THIS WORLD, so until then... ROCK OUT! :)
@LPATWILLFILM You say that in theory, but the practicalities of what you're saying just don't seem to work. Which is why you are on this page where we have been watching a guy talk about ex gay ministries and their epic fail. I haven't seen one guy who has benefited from them :/
@jappud if you are cool with that and good on that and straight on that and can deal with that.... Who am I? But, as long as you know the FACT of LIFE is that LIFE in this earth is TEMPORAL and we ALL get to leave here sooner of later, so just be able to MAN UP on the other side, because there is ANOTHER SIDE. So, do your thang like it aint no thang! :) But, remember on the other side, the things on this side that got you there when you did NOT have to get there in the first place.
@LPATWILLFILM the fact that life on earth is so short is all the more reason to live it to the full and enjoy yourself before you die and become worm food
@Wrestler71479 But, you are NOT allowing THE LORD JESUS CHRIST to BRING YOUR FLESH into A LIVING SACRIFICE and SUBMISSION UNTO HIS WILL and THE WILL OF THE FATHER. Remember, JESUS HIMSELF reminded the people of His time: "Have you not read that from the Beginning God created Male & Female and these TWO SHALL BE ONE FLESH." Why would Jesus reiterate this? Because that is HIS WILL. A person with SAME-SEX affection MUST "surrender" that "natural" "carnal" desire UNTO CHRIST to BE IN GOD'S WILL
@Wrestler71479 I find it strange that gays would want to accept a God that condemns them to death for their "perversion". I understand people have their own interpretation of christianity, but what is the motivation to have the faith?
@LPATWILLFILM Re Slavery: However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
@jappud Oh yeah... I was WAITING on this to come! :) But, what you do NOT realize is that the AMALEKS were PAGAN WORSHIPPERS THAT WERE SACRIFICING THEIR CHILDREN UNTO THE PAGAN IDOL MOLECH causing their children to "pass through the fire." And, so that is why GOD HAD THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL to break these people off and bring them into JUDGMENT. So, you should be GLAD that GOD would use HIS PEOPLE to BRING JUSTICE AGAINST A PEOPLE that were SACRIFICING THEIR KIDS and COMMITTING DEBAUCHERY! :)
Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
@jappud The question I have for you is this... Why would you NOT want to REPENT of anything that would get in the way of your relationship with The Lord? Why would you want to EXALT anything or anyone over Him? If God said that Heterosexuality was WRONG and NOT HIS WILL, because I want to LOVE HIM MORE THAN ALL including myself, why would I NOT want to REPENT and STOP anything that would cause disruption and disharmony between ME AND THE LORD? Dont' let your SEXUALITY become an IDOL.
@LPATWILLFILM Because there is no good evidence that God exists in the first place, thats why. And don't assume too much about my sexuality, my friend. I'm straight and an ex christian. I don't think this discourse is getting anywhere, since your arguments seem to be based on fanatical emotion rather than reason. And no, I'm not glad that your loving god sanctioned the murder of the amalekites including the innocent children and animals. That would make me a sick human being.
@jappud There is no hypocrisy EXCEPT in you! You do FOLLOW GOD'S LAW on the things you AGREE, unless of course you are indeed having sex with your parents, your cats, your dogs, aunts, uncles, children and women on their period and with your neighbor's wife. See, if you are NOT DOING these things then you are FOLLOWING GOD'S LAW on these things, but you are REBELLIOUS AND PICKING & CHOOSING NOT TO FOLLOW HIS LAW on the things you like and WANT TO DO! Simply put. Now, a TRUE REJECTER OF GOD...
@jappud So, then you believe a SICK PEOPLE such as the Amalekites WHOM KILLED THEIR OWN CHILDREN IN PAGAN WORSHIP AND SACRIFICE did NOT deserve judgement and justice to come against them???? When they KILLED THEIR OWN INNOCENT children? Dude, dig your own "reasoning" since you are so INTELLIGENT and HIGH-MINDED... You would rather NO JUSTICE be brought against a people whom would do this to their OWN CHILDREN? Then that makes you even MORE of a SICK HUMAN BEING.
well, ii just want to say that the ministry he went to seems very unbiblical such as holy water and oils, and laughing therapy, blaming problems on sins of the ancestors. i mean the guy was under personal demonic attack while being prayed for all the time. because of an unrighteous church, this guy may suffer his whole life not trusting christians or turning to christ, look at his eyes, he looks so sad and tired. i wish i could help him, poor fella
everybody just needs to chill. let people live. love our neighbor. let God direct and guide. God loves all of his people. i would just encourage everyone, straight, gay, bi, curious, asexual, to love God daily and he will handle your needs. anti-gay people, be quiet for a minute and let God do his work. Gay people, be quiet for a minute and let God work on straight people. we should not make this a big issue. loving God will make your enemy love you, regardless of your sexual status.
@AveolarD WHAT IS "ANTI-GAY?" See this term is totally abused! Anti-Gay used to mean a person who truly HATED GAYS, to beat them, hurt them, murder them, mistreat them. But, NOW "Anti-Gay" is being MISUSED to include anyone AND everyone that merely or remotely "disagrees" with Homosexuality and that is WRONG! I LOVE HOMOSEXUALS and SO DOES JESUS CHRIST and it is that PURE LOVE that is COURAGEOUS ENOUGH to CALL HOMOSEXUALS TO REPENTANCE. HOMOSEXULITY IS THE "WAY" OF THE LUST OF THE FLESH.
@AveolarD WHAT MAKES HOMOSEXUALITY WRONG? Simple. GOD SAID: "DON'T DO IT!" JESUS CHRIST SAYS: "If thy hand OFFENDS thee and causes you to SIN against GOD, CUT IT OFF! If they eye OFFENDS thee and causes you to SIN against GOD, PLUCK IT OUT!" For it is "better that you ENTER ETERNAL LIFE maimed and blind" than thy WHOLE BODY to ENTER HELL." What is JESUS saying here? He is SAYING it is better to DENY oneself "SINFUL" LUST and temporarily "suffer" than to fulfill LUSTFUL SIN & GO 2 HELL!
@LPATWILLFILM all i am saying is let God be the judge. when you cast a stone, that stone may return to you. ask eddie long who is currently in the news.
@AveolarD But, you see... Even if Eddie Long is GUILTY OF HOMOSEXUALITY it still does NOT mean that his "stance" on Homosexuality is WRONG. Folks TODAY feel SIN should NEVER be called out for SIN (we are all sinners) but, that should NOT SILENCE one to SPEAK OUT AGAINST SIN. Secondly, when folks such as yourself say "Let GOD JUDGE" it amazes me! It is BETTER to be JUDGED BY MAN who is as weak and sinful as oneself than 2B JUDGED by GOD! I don't want to be JUDGED BY GOD! And, see...
@AveolarD That's only because folks who say "OH, WELL LET GOD JUDGE ME" or "ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME, not MAN!" Really mean, "I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT MY SIN - I WILL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH GOD LATER!" That's a FOOL! If we can't even withstand MAN'S JUDGEMENTS (whom is as sinful and feeble as we are) How do we SUPPOSE we can WITHSTAND GOD'S JUDGMENTS? When GOD IS HOLY & SINLESS? That is why The Bible says: "If the RIGHTEOUS scarcely be SAVED, whereunto shall the UNGODLY appear?"
@AveolarD Oh, no... A WISE MAN knows... LET A MAN JUDGE ME, that I MAY REPENT of my WORKS that GOD MAY NOT HAVE TO JUDGE ME for those works! That is the "FEAR OF THE LORD" which is the "BEGINNING OF WISDOM." But, on "casting stones" no one likes to complete that scripture where JESUS ALSO SAID TO THE SINFUL WOMAN: "GO AND SIN NO MORE!" See it is easy to "accept" that He said "DON'T THROW STONES" but, can we "accept" the other part of HIS MESSAGE: "STOP SINNING!"??? That is the REAL issue.
i see the Demon on him , his teets are scary ,this guys is in deep depression ihope is stilsl alive, hes living the bigest lie of his life, hes gay by nature, wil die gay. and jesus love us!
I'm so glad he was able to live through and beyond that. It's difficult enough to go through that without all this convoluted crap. AND-He's cute to boot!
Aside from the fact that I don't know any other life-but being openly gay-I'm happy to be who I am and have had to move past my own issues (as do we all). We all deserve to be loved-and to love ourselves.
You know, one of the Scriptural lessons taught in the theology section of the g0ys (spelled w. a zer0) .org website is that the entire concept of an "EX-GAY" Ministry is actually a variant on the false gospels that the Apostle Paul condemned so fervently when he wrote to the Galatians about people teaching that salvation was by the Gospel + 'something-else'. And these giant Ex-Gay lies are so destructive for the very reason that it's an antiChrist philosophy actually behind them.
these guys are fucking morons, if you say your gay, and tell someone you dont want to be. you obviously werent rly gay in the first place !!!!!!!!!!!!
you're a fucking moron! why do you think after society tells gay guys that it's wrong to be gay that they would want to be gay. please tell me why you think he wasn't gay in the first place.
Who's the fucking moron? Someone who can't see that a lifetime of being subjected to hateful, homophobic faux-Christian teachings might make someone ambivalent about actually acknowledging they are gay.
Clint is an excellent example of a man who has come through hell and finally come out smart and experienced the miracle of finding that awesome, beautiful being that is himself. Nothing can take that away and thank heaven he found an authentic and wonderful University as well. He's a crucial voice of truth in the wilderness of bigotry and hypocrisy that is found in the anti-gay and "ex-gay" religious extremist world.
Was it just me, or did others find that forced laughing(said to be from Jesus) therapy thing to be extremely spooky? Bad PR for religion. Anyway, this was a very beautiful story at the end, with Clint accepting himself as human, and moving forward from there.
One night after fighting with my mother over cleaning my room as a teen she shouted at me: "Get thee hence Satan!" I then started to realize that she was not quite there. I love her, but for me to come to terms with my sexuality I had to consider that she was a flake. But you can love and respect a flake (From a distance.). One day all gays will be to know at 16 what it's taken me 'til 34 to realize.
myview28. You're right about that. There is a lot of progress that is happening. The African American community is what I am most concerned with. They have a lot of homophobia and a machismo that permeates their culture.
@marcluc1988 But, you don't have to ACCEPT SIN. You simply NEED TO ACCEPT CHRIST JESUS and HE WILL GIVE YOU POWER TO OVERCOME SIN. What is SIN? Anything that takes "lordship" and "dominance" in OUR lives OVER CHRIST JESUS! Anything we LOVE MORE THAN GOD. Anything we are NOT WILLING TO SACRIFICE for GOD - That is SIN! This MAN it is CLEAR NEVER truly DESIRED CHRIST DELIVERANCE, he is too bitter and his "goals" where NOT simply to PLEASE & LOVE GOD MORE than HOMOSEXUAL DESIRE.
@marcluc1988 GOD IS ABLE TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S LIFE! EVEN, THE HOMOSEXUAL! For Fact, SEXUAL SINS are NO MATCH or CHALLENGE to GOD to CORRECT and CONTROL. But, the ONE thing about SEXUAL SINS.. One has to mean BUSINESS and mean it for REAL! They have to want to be IN GOD'S WILL regardless of the COST or SACRIFICE. This man had his OWN "reasons" for NOT wanting to continue in Homosexuality, but the MAIN REASON he did NOT have in his heart - SIMPLY TO PLEASE GOD & TO LOVE HIM MORE THAN SELF.
@marcluc1988 That is why this GUY is BITTER and SADLY being used by SATAN to spread DECEIT and LIES. He is doing the DEVIL'S BIDDING and unfortunately, if this young man DOES NOT TURN HIS HEART AROUND - he will be LOST to everlasting HELL. Not because GOD wants him there, bcuz GOD DOES NOT - that is WHY JESUS CHRIST PAID THE PRICE. But, clearly this man LOVES THE LUST & DESIRE OF HIS FLESH MORE THAN CHRIST and is CHOOSING to PAY THE PENALTY FOR HIS OWN SIN - When he DOES NOT have to! SAD!
@marcluc1988 SIN is ANYTHING that we are NOT WILLING to CHANGE, GIVE or SACRIFICE for THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. If I LOVE my mother, father, brother, sister, husband, wife, son, daughter, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, cousin, friend, boyfriend, girlfriend, job, clothes, beer, music, clubs, food, sex, pot, cigarettes, house, car, money, ANYTHING MORE than HIM - That is SIN. It is NOT about OUR LOVE for "someone else" that takes PRECEDENCE, but OUR LOVE FOR GOD that MUST be #1 OVER EVERYTHING & EVERY1
@marcluc1988 And, "accepting who you are" is a TRICK of the DEVIL. JESUS CHRIST does NOT say: "accept who you are." He wants us to "accept who we CAN be" in HIM. :) That is why we must be BORN-AGAIN. We enter this world messed up. You don't have to teach one how to lie, lust, steal, deceive, doubt, fear. WHY? Because we are BORN SINNERS and the most insiduous SIN is when we think we have NO SIN AT ALL or that our ways do NOT need amendment and mending. DON'T BE DECEIVED BROTHER.
@marcluc1988 Our time here on this Earth is so quaint, so fleeting, so very short. There is no "love" no "desire" no "emotion" no "feeling" no "thing" here that is WORTH missing out on the GREATEST LOVE OF ALL. You see, SIN has a PENALTY, whether we like it or not! JESUS PAID THAT PENALTY and all HE ASKS is that we TRUST HIM MORE than OUR "own" INSTINCTS. That we SEEK HIS LOVE higher above OUR own. That we DESIRE HIS WILL greater than our OWN. I promise you - HE IS WORTHY! :)
@marcluc1988 Forget all the educational, political and even religious "arguments" when we die, we die alone. We can't fall back on school books, our college degrees, voting records, The Constitution, not even our pastors, priests or churches. The ONLY THING we can rely upon is JESUS CHRIST and HIS WORD - Which is TRUTH & EVERLASTING. That is ALL that will truly MATTER IN THE END - when we DEPART this life - WHAT DID WE DO FOR JESUS CHRIST. DID WE LOVE HIM OR WHAT DID WE LOVE *MORE* THAN HIM.
@GazMysticism - To live a HOMOSEXUAL LIFE is living a BONA FIDE and BLATANT LIE. That's living a LIE for sure! Homosexuality is a LIE in of itself. And, those who are in it, may feel "free" in so far as they feel they can "openly" deal with their same sex, but baby it is MORE BONDAGE and they are more bound and more deceived and it is a falsehood. HOMOSEXUALITY is an abusive and users lifestyle. It is a self-serving lifestyle and the LIE lived is that GOD made them that way & CAN'T CHANGE!
@LPATWILLFILM I dont mind...im happy with my sexuality and have no intention of trying to change...i dont believe in God in the religous sense...i decide for myself what to believe
@LPATWILLFILM If homosexuality is wrong because the bible says it's wrong, then you could use that logic to say eating shellfish is evil, and genocide and slavery are fine. Turn down the emotion and try using some reason.
@jappud Tell me where it says GENOCIDE and SLAVERY is "fine" in the BIBLE? JESUS CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES (i.e., Slaves FREE) that is in THE BIBLE. Where the SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS THERE IS LIBERTY (that is in the BIBLE) So, that speaks clearly AGAINST "captivity" and "enslavement." As far as "shellfish" in Leviticus GOD SAID IT SHALL BE AN "ABOMINATION UNTO YOU." (meaning He wanted JEWS to consider it an abomination") but HE SAYS HOMOSEXUALITY like SEX with your PARENTS is AN ABOMINATION.
@jappud Funny, the same VERSE in LEVITICUS where GOD speaks against HOMOSEXUALITY, HE SPEAKS AGAINST BEASTIALITY, INCEST, MOLESTATION and SEX WITH A WOMAN DURING HER PERIOD, as ABOMINATIONS, so then do you then ADVOCATE these other UNCLEAN and ABOMINABLE SEX ACTS? Or, are you "picking & choosing?" :) Because if THE BIBLE is CORRECT that you should NOT have SEX with your PARENTS or DOG (which is in that SAME PASSAGE as NOT having SEX with your SAME GENDER) then you MUST AGREE that GOD is 100%
@jappud 100% CORRECT on ALL of those SEXUAL NO-NOs, OR you must DISAGREE that GOD is 100% INCORRECT and that then we should TOO also have SEX with our PARENTS, UNCLES, AUNTS, KIDS, CATS and DOGS and when a WOMAN is MENSTRUATING. See, you can't have it both ways. So, to say HOMOSEXUALITY is fine, but these things are NOT, then you make ADMISSION that GOD'S LAWS ON SEX is CORRECT, but you REJECT and REBEL against HIS LAW on HOMOSEXUALITY. Which then means you are picking and choosing. :)
The reason why we are against gays is because they don't create more babies to spread the faith. As a Christian and a Republican, we should join forces with the islamics to kill all the liberals. Then later we can have a Holy War to decide which religion should rule the world. It's called priorites and the liberals have to be stopped FIRST.
Most of the friends I've had through the years have been straight. My best friend is straight. We've been friends since elementary school. We're almost thirty years old now, and still best pals. We just watched the Super Bowl together.
I've been gay all my life and hanging out with him never made me any straighter. And the two of us having different sexual orientations hasn't changed anything about our friendship.
do u see how it works now?... they say sumthing that couldve been the cause and a possible way to fix it. You had that friendship and you know it sounds plain ridiculous.... but what if u didnt?
do u see how it works now?... they say sumthing that couldve been the cause and a possible way to fix it. You had that friendship and you know it sounds plain ridiculous.... but what if u didnt?
All I can say is "Don't Waste Your Life!" Getting into groups such as Exodus is wasting your life. So, don't do it. If you have a religious faith, there are churches out there that accept gays and have gay clergy: the Episcopal Church, the Evangelical Lutheran Church in America, the Presbyterian Church and the United Church of Christ. Join one of them and stay away from these quack movements. Think of your own mental sanity and don't let anyone take that away through ex-gay groups.
RCSVirginia 7 months ago
Laughing therapy? Krikey!
Tzedaqyal 9 months ago
Its funny you accuse me of picking and choosing, because my original point was that if you say homosexuality is wrong because of biblical teaching, then you are obligated to follow the rest of the law, i.e. keep the sabbath, not eating swine, to make a raped girl marry her rapist....i could go on. The thing is I don't accept the bible as law, so i'm not obliged to obey anything, i'm merely trying to point out the hyprocrisy within the christian gay bashers.
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud a TRUE REJECTER OF GOD, FOLLOWS NOTHING OF GOD and does EVERYTHING 100% OPPOSITE OF ANYTHING THAT HIS LAWS DICTATE. And, there are people in this world whom live like that and guess what GOD HAS MORE PATIENCE with them than with a person like you. Because you are LUKEWARM you follow GOD'S LAW where you find "befitting" but DO YOUR OWN THING on those things you don't find "befitting" how HYPOCRITICAL! But, you are entitled to REJECT GOD, but there are ETERNAL CONSEQUENCES and if you...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
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@LPATWILLFILM You are a deluded, bigoted fanatic to the extent that you are possibly a danger to society.
jappud 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM You've just admitted that you believe the slaughter of innocent children was just, and you dare to lecture me on anything?
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud I believe in the DEATH PENALTY... They took lives, what makes their lives MORE just and deserving than the lives they took? Wake up kid! You reap what you you sow. The Amalekite were MURDERERS, they were not a righteous and innocent people, but a murdering people and you tell me that they should have been spared? Check your mirror bro and dig what you are saying, you are the one who ATTEMPTED TO LECTURE me about the Amalekites, but you did NOT expect me to KNOW THE HISTORY of them! :)
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud And, children in WAR are sometimes the Collateral Damage, but that is the sad fact of WAR. So, don't pretend you are so "righteous" because we all know that in a WAR sometimes the good must fall with the wicked. But, I know your problem... You got an AX TO GRIND AGAINST GOD because of "something" in your life, but don't take it out on me. It is always easier to resort to childish name calling ("bigoted fanatic") than to deal with the REAL ISSUES and REAL PROBLEMS of your SAD LIFE.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud Nothing I said was HATEFUL nor BIGOTED, for GOD is there for anyone and everyone that wants to RECEIVE HIM and WELCOME HIM and guess what, I do NOT push that you MUST RECEIVE or WELCOME HIM, you are invited to NOT RECEIVE HIM and flat out REJECT HIM. God Himself gives us the RIGHT to do OUR OWN THING and REJECT HIS WAY, but put on your BIG BOY PANTS about it and understand that as with all things IN LIFE and AFTER THIS LIFE there are CONSEQUENCES to be had and if you can deal, GOOD 4 U.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud And, you should NOT even be OFFENDED nor CARE about such AFTER LIFE CONSEQUENCES if you truly believe and trust in your heart that GOD DOES NOT EXIST and that there is NO HEAVEN or NO HELL. If you really believe that, then why get all fussy about what I say? :) You should NOT be ANGRY at me for telling you to DO YOUR THANG but KNOW that there is "another side" once you leave this life. You should pity me for being so silly to "think" such a thing! :) But, YOUR ANGER suggests that...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud YOUR ANGER suggests that... I must have touched off a RAW NERVE with you. And, that shows just how unintelligent your position really is. I am NEVER upset about something that I truly do NOT believe. A Muslim, a Buddhist, a "whatever" can't piss me off about their beliefs because I categorically reject those beliefs and TRUST and KNOW in my HEART JESUS CHRIST IS THE WAY, THE TRUTH & THE LIFE, so what "they say" makes me fell like, OK. Rock On with that. :) But, to get pissed...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud But, to get pissed and start NAME CALLING someone whom holds a DIFFERENT BELIEF would show MY IGNORANCE and actually lend MORE VALUE and CREDENCE that deep down I must have some real "concerns" and "issues" that their beliefs are so troubling to me that they are hence RELEVANT to me. Something that is FALSE should NOT invoke and evoke ANGER, unless it is NOT so FALSE after all! :) You act as if you MUST BE WORRIED that you will have to face GOD when you die. But, hey...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud But, hey... Take that up with HIM. I did NOT write the BIBLE. I am merely a BELIEVER of it and have shared my most sincere BELIEF that there is NOTHING THAT GOD CAN NOT DO IN ONE'S LIFE if they BELIEVE and WILL ALLOW GOD TO DO WHAT OTHERS THINK IS IMPOSSIBLE TO BE DONE. And, a person whom is practicing Homosexuality whom wants to bring their life into PERFECT HARMONY and PERFECT FELLOWSHIP with GOD can lay aside Homosexuality and find the GRACE to be a LIVING SACRIFICE UNTO THE LORD.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
We know that God has always created, loved, and kept His homosexual children right here on His planet, as part of His divine plan. Deluded and/or indoctrinated men, manipulated by Satan, have often used the man-written Bible and its various myths, as weapons of hatred against their fellow man. These sad, oppressive people, who falsely believe they are spreading "God's word" are actually minions of Satan, sowing bigotry and discord against God's gay, black, Jewish children. May God forgive them.
GodCreatesGays2 2 months ago
@jappud Now, dig this... A Homosexual or ANY "sexual" or ANY person that feel their lives are just FINE without THE LORD JESUS CHRIST and feel as though they DO NOT need GOD present in their lives and REJECT the BIBLE, trust me that is just fine by me. If you see NO NEED for HIM, trust... Then YOU have NO NEED for HIM. But, just be sure to MAN UP and OWN it when you leave this world. And, one thing that is FOR SURE is that WE ALL WILL LEAVE THIS WORLD, so until then... ROCK OUT! :)
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM You say that in theory, but the practicalities of what you're saying just don't seem to work. Which is why you are on this page where we have been watching a guy talk about ex gay ministries and their epic fail. I haven't seen one guy who has benefited from them :/
dillondownie 8 months ago
@jappud if you are cool with that and good on that and straight on that and can deal with that.... Who am I? But, as long as you know the FACT of LIFE is that LIFE in this earth is TEMPORAL and we ALL get to leave here sooner of later, so just be able to MAN UP on the other side, because there is ANOTHER SIDE. So, do your thang like it aint no thang! :) But, remember on the other side, the things on this side that got you there when you did NOT have to get there in the first place.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM the fact that life on earth is so short is all the more reason to live it to the full and enjoy yourself before you die and become worm food
MamaMario13 7 months ago
I think if you take off your Jesus Goggles, this video makes a lot more sense.
jappud 11 months ago
@Wrestler71479 But, you are NOT allowing THE LORD JESUS CHRIST to BRING YOUR FLESH into A LIVING SACRIFICE and SUBMISSION UNTO HIS WILL and THE WILL OF THE FATHER. Remember, JESUS HIMSELF reminded the people of His time: "Have you not read that from the Beginning God created Male & Female and these TWO SHALL BE ONE FLESH." Why would Jesus reiterate this? Because that is HIS WILL. A person with SAME-SEX affection MUST "surrender" that "natural" "carnal" desire UNTO CHRIST to BE IN GOD'S WILL
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@Wrestler71479 I find it strange that gays would want to accept a God that condemns them to death for their "perversion". I understand people have their own interpretation of christianity, but what is the motivation to have the faith?
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud The Lord does NOT condemn Homosexuals UNTO death, He OFFERS them a NEW LIFE, an ABUNDANT LIFE in HIM. :)
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Re Slavery: However, you may purchase male or female slaves from among the foreigners who live among you. You may also purchase the children of such resident foreigners, including those who have been born in your land. You may treat them as your property, passing them on to your children as a permanent inheritance. You may treat your slaves like this, but the people of Israel, your relatives, must never be treated this way. (Leviticus 25:44-46 NLT)
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud Oh yeah... I was WAITING on this to come! :) But, what you do NOT realize is that the AMALEKS were PAGAN WORSHIPPERS THAT WERE SACRIFICING THEIR CHILDREN UNTO THE PAGAN IDOL MOLECH causing their children to "pass through the fire." And, so that is why GOD HAD THE CHILDREN OF ISRAEL to break these people off and bring them into JUDGMENT. So, you should be GLAD that GOD would use HIS PEOPLE to BRING JUSTICE AGAINST A PEOPLE that were SACRIFICING THEIR KIDS and COMMITTING DEBAUCHERY! :)
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Re Genocide:1 Samuel 15:2-3
Thus saith the LORD of hosts ... go and smite Amalek, and utterly destroy all that they have, and spare them not; but slay both man and woman, infant and suckling, ox and sheep, camel and ass.
jappud 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM The lord offers them a new life if they repent and stop being gay. If they continue they are condemned to death.
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud The question I have for you is this... Why would you NOT want to REPENT of anything that would get in the way of your relationship with The Lord? Why would you want to EXALT anything or anyone over Him? If God said that Heterosexuality was WRONG and NOT HIS WILL, because I want to LOVE HIM MORE THAN ALL including myself, why would I NOT want to REPENT and STOP anything that would cause disruption and disharmony between ME AND THE LORD? Dont' let your SEXUALITY become an IDOL.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@LPATWILLFILM Because there is no good evidence that God exists in the first place, thats why. And don't assume too much about my sexuality, my friend. I'm straight and an ex christian. I don't think this discourse is getting anywhere, since your arguments seem to be based on fanatical emotion rather than reason. And no, I'm not glad that your loving god sanctioned the murder of the amalekites including the innocent children and animals. That would make me a sick human being.
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud There is no hypocrisy EXCEPT in you! You do FOLLOW GOD'S LAW on the things you AGREE, unless of course you are indeed having sex with your parents, your cats, your dogs, aunts, uncles, children and women on their period and with your neighbor's wife. See, if you are NOT DOING these things then you are FOLLOWING GOD'S LAW on these things, but you are REBELLIOUS AND PICKING & CHOOSING NOT TO FOLLOW HIS LAW on the things you like and WANT TO DO! Simply put. Now, a TRUE REJECTER OF GOD...
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud So, then you believe a SICK PEOPLE such as the Amalekites WHOM KILLED THEIR OWN CHILDREN IN PAGAN WORSHIP AND SACRIFICE did NOT deserve judgement and justice to come against them???? When they KILLED THEIR OWN INNOCENT children? Dude, dig your own "reasoning" since you are so INTELLIGENT and HIGH-MINDED... You would rather NO JUSTICE be brought against a people whom would do this to their OWN CHILDREN? Then that makes you even MORE of a SICK HUMAN BEING.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
well, ii just want to say that the ministry he went to seems very unbiblical such as holy water and oils, and laughing therapy, blaming problems on sins of the ancestors. i mean the guy was under personal demonic attack while being prayed for all the time. because of an unrighteous church, this guy may suffer his whole life not trusting christians or turning to christ, look at his eyes, he looks so sad and tired. i wish i could help him, poor fella
Terrybob123 1 year ago
everybody just needs to chill. let people live. love our neighbor. let God direct and guide. God loves all of his people. i would just encourage everyone, straight, gay, bi, curious, asexual, to love God daily and he will handle your needs. anti-gay people, be quiet for a minute and let God do his work. Gay people, be quiet for a minute and let God work on straight people. we should not make this a big issue. loving God will make your enemy love you, regardless of your sexual status.
AveolarD 1 year ago
@AveolarD WHAT IS "ANTI-GAY?" See this term is totally abused! Anti-Gay used to mean a person who truly HATED GAYS, to beat them, hurt them, murder them, mistreat them. But, NOW "Anti-Gay" is being MISUSED to include anyone AND everyone that merely or remotely "disagrees" with Homosexuality and that is WRONG! I LOVE HOMOSEXUALS and SO DOES JESUS CHRIST and it is that PURE LOVE that is COURAGEOUS ENOUGH to CALL HOMOSEXUALS TO REPENTANCE. HOMOSEXULITY IS THE "WAY" OF THE LUST OF THE FLESH.
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@AveolarD WHAT MAKES HOMOSEXUALITY WRONG? Simple. GOD SAID: "DON'T DO IT!" JESUS CHRIST SAYS: "If thy hand OFFENDS thee and causes you to SIN against GOD, CUT IT OFF! If they eye OFFENDS thee and causes you to SIN against GOD, PLUCK IT OUT!" For it is "better that you ENTER ETERNAL LIFE maimed and blind" than thy WHOLE BODY to ENTER HELL." What is JESUS saying here? He is SAYING it is better to DENY oneself "SINFUL" LUST and temporarily "suffer" than to fulfill LUSTFUL SIN & GO 2 HELL!
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@LPATWILLFILM all i am saying is let God be the judge. when you cast a stone, that stone may return to you. ask eddie long who is currently in the news.
AveolarD 1 year ago
@AveolarD But, you see... Even if Eddie Long is GUILTY OF HOMOSEXUALITY it still does NOT mean that his "stance" on Homosexuality is WRONG. Folks TODAY feel SIN should NEVER be called out for SIN (we are all sinners) but, that should NOT SILENCE one to SPEAK OUT AGAINST SIN. Secondly, when folks such as yourself say "Let GOD JUDGE" it amazes me! It is BETTER to be JUDGED BY MAN who is as weak and sinful as oneself than 2B JUDGED by GOD! I don't want to be JUDGED BY GOD! And, see...
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@AveolarD That's only because folks who say "OH, WELL LET GOD JUDGE ME" or "ONLY GOD CAN JUDGE ME, not MAN!" Really mean, "I DON'T WANT ANYBODY TALKING ABOUT MY SIN - I WILL TAKE MY CHANCES WITH GOD LATER!" That's a FOOL! If we can't even withstand MAN'S JUDGEMENTS (whom is as sinful and feeble as we are) How do we SUPPOSE we can WITHSTAND GOD'S JUDGMENTS? When GOD IS HOLY & SINLESS? That is why The Bible says: "If the RIGHTEOUS scarcely be SAVED, whereunto shall the UNGODLY appear?"
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@AveolarD Oh, no... A WISE MAN knows... LET A MAN JUDGE ME, that I MAY REPENT of my WORKS that GOD MAY NOT HAVE TO JUDGE ME for those works! That is the "FEAR OF THE LORD" which is the "BEGINNING OF WISDOM." But, on "casting stones" no one likes to complete that scripture where JESUS ALSO SAID TO THE SINFUL WOMAN: "GO AND SIN NO MORE!" See it is easy to "accept" that He said "DON'T THROW STONES" but, can we "accept" the other part of HIS MESSAGE: "STOP SINNING!"??? That is the REAL issue.
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@LPATWILLFILM all right preacher man
AveolarD 1 year ago
"Demons cause homosexuality."
OMFG, this reminds me of Jack Chick's Wounded Children.
:/
lonelysith66 1 year ago
i see the Demon on him , his teets are scary ,this guys is in deep depression ihope is stilsl alive, hes living the bigest lie of his life, hes gay by nature, wil die gay. and jesus love us!
luverdude 1 year ago
please tell me this is a joke
KKirstyKiwiK 1 year ago
I'm so glad he was able to live through and beyond that. It's difficult enough to go through that without all this convoluted crap. AND-He's cute to boot!
Aside from the fact that I don't know any other life-but being openly gay-I'm happy to be who I am and have had to move past my own issues (as do we all). We all deserve to be loved-and to love ourselves.
europa599 1 year ago
You know, one of the Scriptural lessons taught in the theology section of the g0ys (spelled w. a zer0) .org website is that the entire concept of an "EX-GAY" Ministry is actually a variant on the false gospels that the Apostle Paul condemned so fervently when he wrote to the Galatians about people teaching that salvation was by the Gospel + 'something-else'. And these giant Ex-Gay lies are so destructive for the very reason that it's an antiChrist philosophy actually behind them.
g0ysorg 1 year ago
hmmmm.... 'male bonding'. there's a great way to get your attraction to men out of your head.
FriderikusRex 2 years ago
these guys are fucking morons, if you say your gay, and tell someone you dont want to be. you obviously werent rly gay in the first place !!!!!!!!!!!!
SpiffayXD 2 years ago
He went out of his way to change his sexuality. Obviously he must have been Gay.
viastesal 2 years ago
you're a fucking moron! why do you think after society tells gay guys that it's wrong to be gay that they would want to be gay. please tell me why you think he wasn't gay in the first place.
FriderikusRex 2 years ago
Who's the fucking moron? Someone who can't see that a lifetime of being subjected to hateful, homophobic faux-Christian teachings might make someone ambivalent about actually acknowledging they are gay.
BradNYC 2 years ago
@SpiffayXD : I love when you use the word "obviously" in such a sentence. Sounds authoritative... Still, a dumb ignorant sentence...
cre599 1 year ago
Clint is an excellent example of a man who has come through hell and finally come out smart and experienced the miracle of finding that awesome, beautiful being that is himself. Nothing can take that away and thank heaven he found an authentic and wonderful University as well. He's a crucial voice of truth in the wilderness of bigotry and hypocrisy that is found in the anti-gay and "ex-gay" religious extremist world.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago 2
Clint is HOT!!!!!!!!!!!!!
gaytheist1 2 years ago
I love his teeth. Really nice.
viastesal 2 years ago
Christian people need to keep their pesky noses out of other peoples sex live's. What a bunch of disgusting freaks!!!!!!
gaytheist1 2 years ago
fundamentalist christians... typical
XiXUSMC 2 years ago
NIce video
Isaura21s 2 years ago
Was it just me, or did others find that forced laughing(said to be from Jesus) therapy thing to be extremely spooky? Bad PR for religion. Anyway, this was a very beautiful story at the end, with Clint accepting himself as human, and moving forward from there.
dexterxyz 2 years ago
One night after fighting with my mother over cleaning my room as a teen she shouted at me: "Get thee hence Satan!" I then started to realize that she was not quite there. I love her, but for me to come to terms with my sexuality I had to consider that she was a flake. But you can love and respect a flake (From a distance.). One day all gays will be to know at 16 what it's taken me 'til 34 to realize.
myview28 3 years ago
myview28. You're right about that. There is a lot of progress that is happening. The African American community is what I am most concerned with. They have a lot of homophobia and a machismo that permeates their culture.
Rockymtntruth 2 years ago
I accepted my homosexuality within weeks of realising it.
marcluc1988 3 years ago 5
You probably didnt have to deal with religion.
viastesal 2 years ago
Fortunately, I live in the U.K. and God went had emmigrated to the U.S. ages before I was born. I was not given any religious nonsense as a kid.
marcluc1988 2 years ago 3
That is fortunate.
viastesal 2 years ago
@marcluc1988 But, you don't have to ACCEPT SIN. You simply NEED TO ACCEPT CHRIST JESUS and HE WILL GIVE YOU POWER TO OVERCOME SIN. What is SIN? Anything that takes "lordship" and "dominance" in OUR lives OVER CHRIST JESUS! Anything we LOVE MORE THAN GOD. Anything we are NOT WILLING TO SACRIFICE for GOD - That is SIN! This MAN it is CLEAR NEVER truly DESIRED CHRIST DELIVERANCE, he is too bitter and his "goals" where NOT simply to PLEASE & LOVE GOD MORE than HOMOSEXUAL DESIRE.
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 GOD IS ABLE TO CHANGE ANYBODY'S LIFE! EVEN, THE HOMOSEXUAL! For Fact, SEXUAL SINS are NO MATCH or CHALLENGE to GOD to CORRECT and CONTROL. But, the ONE thing about SEXUAL SINS.. One has to mean BUSINESS and mean it for REAL! They have to want to be IN GOD'S WILL regardless of the COST or SACRIFICE. This man had his OWN "reasons" for NOT wanting to continue in Homosexuality, but the MAIN REASON he did NOT have in his heart - SIMPLY TO PLEASE GOD & TO LOVE HIM MORE THAN SELF.
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 That is why this GUY is BITTER and SADLY being used by SATAN to spread DECEIT and LIES. He is doing the DEVIL'S BIDDING and unfortunately, if this young man DOES NOT TURN HIS HEART AROUND - he will be LOST to everlasting HELL. Not because GOD wants him there, bcuz GOD DOES NOT - that is WHY JESUS CHRIST PAID THE PRICE. But, clearly this man LOVES THE LUST & DESIRE OF HIS FLESH MORE THAN CHRIST and is CHOOSING to PAY THE PENALTY FOR HIS OWN SIN - When he DOES NOT have to! SAD!
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@LPATWILLFILM I wasn't going to reply to you because you are not going to listen to reason but for everyone else:
There's no sin in loving someone of the same sex. Accept who you are and don't listen to the indoctrinated nonsense of the religious.
marcluc1988 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 SIN is ANYTHING that we are NOT WILLING to CHANGE, GIVE or SACRIFICE for THE LORD JESUS CHRIST. If I LOVE my mother, father, brother, sister, husband, wife, son, daughter, aunt, uncle, niece, nephew, cousin, friend, boyfriend, girlfriend, job, clothes, beer, music, clubs, food, sex, pot, cigarettes, house, car, money, ANYTHING MORE than HIM - That is SIN. It is NOT about OUR LOVE for "someone else" that takes PRECEDENCE, but OUR LOVE FOR GOD that MUST be #1 OVER EVERYTHING & EVERY1
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 And, "accepting who you are" is a TRICK of the DEVIL. JESUS CHRIST does NOT say: "accept who you are." He wants us to "accept who we CAN be" in HIM. :) That is why we must be BORN-AGAIN. We enter this world messed up. You don't have to teach one how to lie, lust, steal, deceive, doubt, fear. WHY? Because we are BORN SINNERS and the most insiduous SIN is when we think we have NO SIN AT ALL or that our ways do NOT need amendment and mending. DON'T BE DECEIVED BROTHER.
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 Our time here on this Earth is so quaint, so fleeting, so very short. There is no "love" no "desire" no "emotion" no "feeling" no "thing" here that is WORTH missing out on the GREATEST LOVE OF ALL. You see, SIN has a PENALTY, whether we like it or not! JESUS PAID THAT PENALTY and all HE ASKS is that we TRUST HIM MORE than OUR "own" INSTINCTS. That we SEEK HIS LOVE higher above OUR own. That we DESIRE HIS WILL greater than our OWN. I promise you - HE IS WORTHY! :)
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@marcluc1988 Forget all the educational, political and even religious "arguments" when we die, we die alone. We can't fall back on school books, our college degrees, voting records, The Constitution, not even our pastors, priests or churches. The ONLY THING we can rely upon is JESUS CHRIST and HIS WORD - Which is TRUTH & EVERLASTING. That is ALL that will truly MATTER IN THE END - when we DEPART this life - WHAT DID WE DO FOR JESUS CHRIST. DID WE LOVE HIM OR WHAT DID WE LOVE *MORE* THAN HIM.
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@LPATWILLFILM O please give over with ur hocus pocus...well if its the devils work it feels a hell of alot better to be true 2your than live a lie
GazMysticism 1 year ago
@GazMysticism - To live a HOMOSEXUAL LIFE is living a BONA FIDE and BLATANT LIE. That's living a LIE for sure! Homosexuality is a LIE in of itself. And, those who are in it, may feel "free" in so far as they feel they can "openly" deal with their same sex, but baby it is MORE BONDAGE and they are more bound and more deceived and it is a falsehood. HOMOSEXUALITY is an abusive and users lifestyle. It is a self-serving lifestyle and the LIE lived is that GOD made them that way & CAN'T CHANGE!
LPATWILLFILM 1 year ago
@LPATWILLFILM I dont mind...im happy with my sexuality and have no intention of trying to change...i dont believe in God in the religous sense...i decide for myself what to believe
GazMysticism 1 year ago
@LPATWILLFILM If homosexuality is wrong because the bible says it's wrong, then you could use that logic to say eating shellfish is evil, and genocide and slavery are fine. Turn down the emotion and try using some reason.
jappud 11 months ago
@jappud Tell me where it says GENOCIDE and SLAVERY is "fine" in the BIBLE? JESUS CAME TO SET THE CAPTIVES (i.e., Slaves FREE) that is in THE BIBLE. Where the SPIRIT OF THE LORD IS THERE IS LIBERTY (that is in the BIBLE) So, that speaks clearly AGAINST "captivity" and "enslavement." As far as "shellfish" in Leviticus GOD SAID IT SHALL BE AN "ABOMINATION UNTO YOU." (meaning He wanted JEWS to consider it an abomination") but HE SAYS HOMOSEXUALITY like SEX with your PARENTS is AN ABOMINATION.
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud Funny, the same VERSE in LEVITICUS where GOD speaks against HOMOSEXUALITY, HE SPEAKS AGAINST BEASTIALITY, INCEST, MOLESTATION and SEX WITH A WOMAN DURING HER PERIOD, as ABOMINATIONS, so then do you then ADVOCATE these other UNCLEAN and ABOMINABLE SEX ACTS? Or, are you "picking & choosing?" :) Because if THE BIBLE is CORRECT that you should NOT have SEX with your PARENTS or DOG (which is in that SAME PASSAGE as NOT having SEX with your SAME GENDER) then you MUST AGREE that GOD is 100%
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@jappud 100% CORRECT on ALL of those SEXUAL NO-NOs, OR you must DISAGREE that GOD is 100% INCORRECT and that then we should TOO also have SEX with our PARENTS, UNCLES, AUNTS, KIDS, CATS and DOGS and when a WOMAN is MENSTRUATING. See, you can't have it both ways. So, to say HOMOSEXUALITY is fine, but these things are NOT, then you make ADMISSION that GOD'S LAWS ON SEX is CORRECT, but you REJECT and REBEL against HIS LAW on HOMOSEXUALITY. Which then means you are picking and choosing. :)
LPATWILLFILM 11 months ago
@marcluc1988 i was luckily raised in a liberal atheist family
MamaMario13 7 months ago
im fully aware of who i am and what i am and i make no apologies. no to you, not to god, not to anyone else
sunshine0909 3 years ago
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The reason why we are against gays is because they don't create more babies to spread the faith. As a Christian and a Republican, we should join forces with the islamics to kill all the liberals. Then later we can have a Holy War to decide which religion should rule the world. It's called priorites and the liberals have to be stopped FIRST.
LatteLiberal 3 years ago
Reminds me of Sweeney Todd
"Demons'll charm you with a smile, for a while,
But in time...
Nothing can harm you
Not while I'm around..."
InXanadu2 4 years ago
Most of the friends I've had through the years have been straight. My best friend is straight. We've been friends since elementary school. We're almost thirty years old now, and still best pals. We just watched the Super Bowl together.
I've been gay all my life and hanging out with him never made me any straighter. And the two of us having different sexual orientations hasn't changed anything about our friendship.
Eshto 4 years ago 6
do u see how it works now?... they say sumthing that couldve been the cause and a possible way to fix it. You had that friendship and you know it sounds plain ridiculous.... but what if u didnt?
leojboby 3 years ago
do u see how it works now?... they say sumthing that couldve been the cause and a possible way to fix it. You had that friendship and you know it sounds plain ridiculous.... but what if u didnt?
leojboby 3 years ago