Yes i'm sure Tim Pawlenty is a nice guy but i just don't think he has that "IT factor to win. I know the same can be said of who i want , that is "Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum. To each their own for whom you root for.
Yup, CENTRAL BANKER who voted for bank bailouts & believes in corporatism is exactly what the country needs, I guess Obama isn't doing enough of that.
I would have voted for TARP as it was originally intended too. Glenn Beck would have too. The original intent was to buy up bad loans so that banks could lend again. Corporations are a part of our capitalist system. They aren't the enemy. You are obviously a Ron Paul LIBERALtarian.
Ok, so Fed creates excess money which causes prices to soar unnecessarily, govt backs deposits with FDIC & essentially incentivizes banks to gamble without fear; CRA gets banks to lend to unsound borrowers & then Freddie & Fannie put it on taxpayers' tab by accepting these bad loans & then when the whole breaks down while banks made profits, taxpayers foot the bill & the country gets a nice recession Great!
Corporations are part of capitalism but bailouts are part of CORPORATISM
I don't like the term, corporatism. It's a big red flag that you're a LIBERALtarian.
That said, I agree that we need to let banks fail. We need to let individuals fail too. I had no idea TARP would end up being used the way it was used. I wasn't the only one though. The original intent would have helped the situation without making it worse; but any time you give gov power, you have no way of knowing how they will use it.
When did say I wasn't a libertarian? And could you tell me how asking for small constitutionally limited govt, fiscal conservatism & personal freedoms makes us "liberal"?
And TARP wasn't anything new, it was always going to used the way it was, it's been happening for ages & it IS corporatism = big corporations using big govt's power to benefit themselves
And even though you recognize that gov misuses power, you're supporting a candidate who wants govt to have money-power?
Actually, Ron Paul stands for free market capitalism which is the only real capitalism based on the simple principle of freedom where every person has a right to his life, liberty & property.
All those who support "regulated capitalism" are actually CORPORATISTS who like corporations controlling the system thru "regulation" by buying out govt.
Check Ron Paul's funding, 97% of it came from INDIVIDUALS while all the "frontrunners" from BOTH parties got huge sums from big corps.
the 385 million wasn't from the Federal government, it was from other people -- by force, taking from some to give to others because a third party thinks it's a good thing to do.
"the 385 million wasn't from the Federal government, it was from other people -- by force, taking from some to give to others because a third party thinks it's a good thing to do"
Well said, it is unconstitutional to breach people's right to their property like that.
Umm...Romney is the same. Why would you pick him over Pawlenty? Just curious because I wouldn't pick either for their many liberal views such as this.
@NWsubmom OK well Allen West isn't running, Herman Cain isn't going to win (since he's never held any office before and has no clue about foreign policy) and Bachmann has no chance, especially if Palin gets in.
@NWsubmom Romneycare did not increase the state's debt. That is incorrect.
Check your own facts from government documents. Do not listen to talk jocks like O'Reilly.
The Massachusetts Taxpayers' Association determined that Romneycare is well within its projected cost. Deval Patrick (the current governor) is responsible for running up a $5.5 billion dollar deficit. Mitt Romney balanced his budget every year, generating a surplus every year (including after Romneycare passed).
"Someone who doesn't change their opinion, depending on which group he speaks in front of"
How about Ron Paul? He doesn't flip-flop to get votes; he's called "Dr.No" in Congress because he always votes against anything unconstitutional.
Ron's been straight-talking forever, here's him during his 1988 race talking about why no candidate ever talks about Fed & how it finances the whole corporatist system including both the parties, at the cost of American people - watch?v=NDEgBWO54dA
I guess you think 9/11 was an inside job? Obama was born in Kenya?
If you want to decide what Mitt's views are, look at his RECORD. He opposed abortion, gay marriage, drivers' licenses for illegals, taxes, and allowing Muslim radicals speak at Harvard.
He is a business hero, and will fix the economy and cap federal spending at 20% of GDP. He will repeal Obamacare.
@2012Romney Romney has been FOR alot of things before he has become AGAINST it!
Romney was FOR gay marriage and now is against it.
Romney was FOR socialized medicine and created it in his own state before he is now against Obamacare!
I don't really know quite frankly where he stands on illegal immigration, but with his wishy-washy past I would say. My problem is I don't trust him to stay FIRM on where he stands.
I don't really see anybody yet I want to vote for.
@NWsubmom Incorrect, and incorrect. Romney was always against gay marriage. PROVE he was for it. Prove it. You cannot. I challenge you.
Romney was never for socialized medicine. He wanted to encourage individual ownership of health care. He wanted it to work more like a market. He lowered the cost of INDIVIDUAL health insurance in MA. He was always opposed to national health care, even in the 2007 campaign.
Just do your own homework. Stop listening to pundits. Read objective sources.
This is why TPaw passed on taking on Romney face to face.
thelopper 8 months ago 2
Yes i'm sure Tim Pawlenty is a nice guy but i just don't think he has that "IT factor to win. I know the same can be said of who i want , that is "Michelle Bachmann or Sarah Palin or Rick Santorum. To each their own for whom you root for.
computerpurple 9 months ago
@computerpurple He is just too wishy-washy like Romney.
We cannot afford another McCain RINOish candidate, don't you think?
NWsubmom 9 months ago
@NWsubmom I agree NO more RINO-ism.
computerpurple 9 months ago
Pawlenty sux, Romney sux and Gingrich sux.
Herman Cain is the obvious choice for conservatives voting in the primary.
Rhiannon003 9 months ago
@Rhiannon003
Yup, CENTRAL BANKER who voted for bank bailouts & believes in corporatism is exactly what the country needs, I guess Obama isn't doing enough of that.
lomocan 9 months ago
@lomocan
I would have voted for TARP as it was originally intended too. Glenn Beck would have too. The original intent was to buy up bad loans so that banks could lend again. Corporations are a part of our capitalist system. They aren't the enemy. You are obviously a Ron Paul LIBERALtarian.
Rhiannon003 9 months ago
@Rhiannon003
Ok, so Fed creates excess money which causes prices to soar unnecessarily, govt backs deposits with FDIC & essentially incentivizes banks to gamble without fear; CRA gets banks to lend to unsound borrowers & then Freddie & Fannie put it on taxpayers' tab by accepting these bad loans & then when the whole breaks down while banks made profits, taxpayers foot the bill & the country gets a nice recession Great!
Corporations are part of capitalism but bailouts are part of CORPORATISM
lomocan 9 months ago
@lomocan
I don't like the term, corporatism. It's a big red flag that you're a LIBERALtarian.
That said, I agree that we need to let banks fail. We need to let individuals fail too. I had no idea TARP would end up being used the way it was used. I wasn't the only one though. The original intent would have helped the situation without making it worse; but any time you give gov power, you have no way of knowing how they will use it.
Rhiannon003 9 months ago
@Rhiannon003
When did say I wasn't a libertarian? And could you tell me how asking for small constitutionally limited govt, fiscal conservatism & personal freedoms makes us "liberal"?
And TARP wasn't anything new, it was always going to used the way it was, it's been happening for ages & it IS corporatism = big corporations using big govt's power to benefit themselves
And even though you recognize that gov misuses power, you're supporting a candidate who wants govt to have money-power?
lomocan 8 months ago
@lomocan
Tim Pawlenty? I'm not supporting him. He is just a lesser known Romney.
Most of you BIG CORP people are Ron Paul supporters. I'm a capitalist. I like big corporations. That's where jobs come from.
Rhiannon003 8 months ago
@Rhiannon003
Actually, Ron Paul stands for free market capitalism which is the only real capitalism based on the simple principle of freedom where every person has a right to his life, liberty & property.
All those who support "regulated capitalism" are actually CORPORATISTS who like corporations controlling the system thru "regulation" by buying out govt.
Check Ron Paul's funding, 97% of it came from INDIVIDUALS while all the "frontrunners" from BOTH parties got huge sums from big corps.
lomocan 8 months ago
Pawlenty is just another Romney.
No difference at all.
Both RINOS!
NWsubmom 9 months ago
the 385 million wasn't from the Federal government, it was from other people -- by force, taking from some to give to others because a third party thinks it's a good thing to do.
jwquinlan 9 months ago
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@jwquinlan
"the 385 million wasn't from the Federal government, it was from other people -- by force, taking from some to give to others because a third party thinks it's a good thing to do"
Well said, it is unconstitutional to breach people's right to their property like that.
lomocan 9 months ago
Umm...Romney is the same. Why would you pick him over Pawlenty? Just curious because I wouldn't pick either for their many liberal views such as this.
ozbucks 9 months ago 5
So what is Tim Pawlenty's selling point now?
This is a gift from God.
Mitt Romney 2012. Time to beat Obama. "It's the economy, stupid!"
2012Romney 9 months ago
@2012Romney Romney SUCKS.
He has too much baggage and is a legendary flip flopper.
We need a TRUE conservative like Allen West, Herman Cain, Michelle Bachman.
Anyone but Romney.
Sorry, but he has a ZERO chance of winning.
NWsubmom 9 months ago
@NWsubmom uh huh. See you at the Convention in Tampa.
2012Romney 9 months ago
@2012Romney I wouldn't be so sure if I were you.
NWsubmom 9 months ago
@NWsubmom OK well Allen West isn't running, Herman Cain isn't going to win (since he's never held any office before and has no clue about foreign policy) and Bachmann has no chance, especially if Palin gets in.
2012Romney 9 months ago
@2012Romney Romney also has Romneycare hanging around his neck. O'Reilly went into how much it increase his states debt since it went into effect.
HOW is Romney going to get around that?
NWsubmom 9 months ago
@NWsubmom Romneycare did not increase the state's debt. That is incorrect.
Check your own facts from government documents. Do not listen to talk jocks like O'Reilly.
The Massachusetts Taxpayers' Association determined that Romneycare is well within its projected cost. Deval Patrick (the current governor) is responsible for running up a $5.5 billion dollar deficit. Mitt Romney balanced his budget every year, generating a surplus every year (including after Romneycare passed).
2012Romney 9 months ago
@2012Romney I'm tend not to believe that. Sorry.
And I wonder, what would you have to say on Romneys LONG history of flip-flops on just about EVERY issue.
We need someone with a CONSISTENT track record.
Someone who doesn't change their opinion, depending on which group he speaks in front of.
NWsubmom 9 months ago
@NWsubmom
"Someone who doesn't change their opinion, depending on which group he speaks in front of"
How about Ron Paul? He doesn't flip-flop to get votes; he's called "Dr.No" in Congress because he always votes against anything unconstitutional.
Ron's been straight-talking forever, here's him during his 1988 race talking about why no candidate ever talks about Fed & how it finances the whole corporatist system including both the parties, at the cost of American people - watch?v=NDEgBWO54dA
lomocan 9 months ago
@NWsubmom You don't believe facts?
I guess you think 9/11 was an inside job? Obama was born in Kenya?
If you want to decide what Mitt's views are, look at his RECORD. He opposed abortion, gay marriage, drivers' licenses for illegals, taxes, and allowing Muslim radicals speak at Harvard.
He is a business hero, and will fix the economy and cap federal spending at 20% of GDP. He will repeal Obamacare.
Who do YOU like?
2012Romney 9 months ago
@2012Romney Romney has been FOR alot of things before he has become AGAINST it!
Romney was FOR gay marriage and now is against it.
Romney was FOR socialized medicine and created it in his own state before he is now against Obamacare!
I don't really know quite frankly where he stands on illegal immigration, but with his wishy-washy past I would say. My problem is I don't trust him to stay FIRM on where he stands.
I don't really see anybody yet I want to vote for.
Maybe Gov Rick Perry,not sure yet
NWsubmom 9 months ago
@NWsubmom Incorrect, and incorrect. Romney was always against gay marriage. PROVE he was for it. Prove it. You cannot. I challenge you.
Romney was never for socialized medicine. He wanted to encourage individual ownership of health care. He wanted it to work more like a market. He lowered the cost of INDIVIDUAL health insurance in MA. He was always opposed to national health care, even in the 2007 campaign.
Just do your own homework. Stop listening to pundits. Read objective sources.
2012Romney 9 months ago
@2012Romney You are out of your mind.
If you are representative of a typical Romney voter, that give us even more of a reason not to vote for him.
He is a liberal in sheeps clothing.
I'm done.
Romney is a JOKE.
NWsubmom 9 months ago
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@NWsubmom So you admit you are wrong, and you are angry that you have lost the argument. I see.
2012Romney 9 months ago