didn't he just recently make it to the pac 10 final and choke too? we should all face facts, herb's cursed and i feel bad for him actually.. just can't quite finish the job.
@musicizgood umm you got to think of what kind of recruits NC state can actually get. compared to duke and UNC. he take decents players some that suck and makes a great team out of them. he didnt have the 5 star recruits like duke and UNC get.
@TheBillynewcomb my point is not that he was a bad coach, it's just the fact that he could never get it done when it mattered the absolute most, for whatever reason.. 1997 was a good year/example .. acc championship game, lost, back to back appearances in the final vs duke 2002 and 2003, lost.. and of course again vs carolina in 2007.. lost.. granted that was under Sid, but you'd think they could at least pull off one win in that span of time, no? there was a time when state was relevant u know
you forgot to mention one thing, he never won a championship of any kind lol.. you'd think he'd do his best bobby cox impression and stumble into at least one!
wow. please keep herb out of raleigh! i dont care how many games he won at state! i slept through half of them! i dont want to watch a game when the only strategy is pass the ball till there is 2 seconds on the shot clock and then shoot a 3! who wants to watch that?!?!? i dont want to watch a bunch of unathletic white boys run around and shooting 3's all day! im so glad that REAL basketball has finally returned to raleigh!
Good job NC State fans. You just ran out a young legend. His style was perfect for you to be competitive in the ACC, and now your busy bending over half the time to your in state rivals. Don't worry though. He'll have less success at ASU, so you'll have a chance to get him back.
herb sucked the life out of the ncsu basketball programs he thought a win over Delaware state was just as important as the wins over UNC and Duke and Wake. Sidney Lowe has to reignite the basket ball program!!!!! HERB SUCKED!!!!!
Geez, I'd love to post a comment but there are no words to describe how utterly stupid this is. The only two coaches in the entire history of the ACC that were worse than Herb after spending eight years in the league were Hoot Gibson and Bobby Roberts. Only Hoot surpassed his inteptitude after ten years. Why anybody thinks he's a good coach is beyond comprehension.
What an incredibly stupid waste of time and effort on the part of the video's creator.
If it takes Sidney more than six years to get to the NCAA tournament -- the time it took Herb to do the same -- then perhaps we can discuss whether Herb is a better coach. I tell you what, though. James Harden is making Herb look like a freaking genius.
Like most games against UNC and Duke in the 90's, the games Herb lost, we got blown away. I can only remember 2 games in which we lost to Carolina by a small margin. The 97 ACC Championship game when it was close the whole game until about the last 5 minutes ( we just ran out of gas), and in 99 when Ed Cota hit a couple of free throws to ice the game in the final seconds.
and only 1 game with Duke I remember being close, when we lost in overtime in Raleigh, in I think 99 or 2000.
8-38 against UNC and Duke. beat Duke only 3 times in 10 years--all upsets, never favored.
Beat UNC 5 times in 10 years- 1 upset, 4 when favored (those 4 came in consecutive years when UNC did not make the NCAA Tourney and only made it to the NIT the second season.)
0 ACC Regular Season Championships
0 ACC Tournament Champioships
0-3 in ACC Tournament Championship Games-Not favored in any
1 Sweet 16 in 10 years
Good guy, but 10 YEARS! with these stats is all he should've gotten anyway.
Look on the bright side. NCSU finished last in the conference .... there is only one way to go. I'm sure that will be a few years down the road when you all decide Sid needs to go.
8-38 against UNC and Duke. 4 of those wins came against UNC when they went back-to-back years of not going to the NCAA Tourney. Never won the ACC regular season title or ACC tourney. Choked in 1 ACC Championship game vs. Duke. Only 1 "very good" recruting class, out of 8. Coached teams that could only be categorized as bad to just plain mediocre.
The three first seasons referred to where Sendek led the school to the post-season are all NIT. Woohoo! Didn't make the NCAA until his 6th season. Few ACC schools would have let him stick around even that long.
Ha ha ha ha ha this is funny. So is the State so called atletic dept and all their teams. Such a joke. Herb didn't and won't beat UNC and Dook, Sid won't either. Your school will never be good in sports and dominate like we do. Lee Foulup keeps bringing your school further and further down and down and down. Ya'll suck at everything. Oh, except cross country and bass fishing. Go HEELS!!
why would I be pissed about not being able to go to MooU? We have nothing to be pissed about. What a great season UNC has every year. 1 of the best Athletic depts. State the complete opposite. Voted 7th on the ugliest list. Like Holt said "All the fellows wanted to go to UNC", but like him, they couldn't (not smart enough). Saying goes, if you can't go to college, go to State. If you can't play ball, go to State. I'm happy laughing at your schools constant lows/mishaps/let downs/failures
Haha anyother bandwagon fan. This was a great season for UNC this right. I thought you guys were suppose to win the NC. Didnt even go to unc and denied from NC State,but likes them cause there basketball team is good. If your athletic department is good why does your football team suck? Why dont you cheer for the college that you went to?
He aint goin anywhere. The way he was treated departing NC State and the quality of life he has now cannot be underestimated. The entire basketball nation "can't beat UNC and Duke" so have fun with Lowe and fire him when he "can't beat UNC and Duke." Guys, Jimmy V is gone and so are the 1980s. Get over yourselves.
yeah because you much rather be below .500 and miss the NCAA tourney, AGAIN. Also, why in the hell would a unc want herb back after they swept you this year like we did?
Herb never beat Roy. Sid has. Give Sid time and he'll do it again. No matter how Lowe does in Raleigh, it was time for a change. UNC fans love Herb because not only does he lose to Duke and UNC, but he makes our fanbase mad.
Hey ASU........how's that whole Sendek thing workin out for ya??? 1-11? After 5 years????? YUP....NC State was wrong to let him WALK AWAY.
Whatever. Go 'Pack!
WolfPup35 1 year ago
didn't he just recently make it to the pac 10 final and choke too? we should all face facts, herb's cursed and i feel bad for him actually.. just can't quite finish the job.
musicizgood 1 year ago
@musicizgood umm you got to think of what kind of recruits NC state can actually get. compared to duke and UNC. he take decents players some that suck and makes a great team out of them. he didnt have the 5 star recruits like duke and UNC get.
TheBillynewcomb 1 year ago
@TheBillynewcomb my point is not that he was a bad coach, it's just the fact that he could never get it done when it mattered the absolute most, for whatever reason.. 1997 was a good year/example .. acc championship game, lost, back to back appearances in the final vs duke 2002 and 2003, lost.. and of course again vs carolina in 2007.. lost.. granted that was under Sid, but you'd think they could at least pull off one win in that span of time, no? there was a time when state was relevant u know
musicizgood 1 year ago
you forgot to mention one thing, he never won a championship of any kind lol.. you'd think he'd do his best bobby cox impression and stumble into at least one!
musicizgood 1 year ago
wow. please keep herb out of raleigh! i dont care how many games he won at state! i slept through half of them! i dont want to watch a game when the only strategy is pass the ball till there is 2 seconds on the shot clock and then shoot a 3! who wants to watch that?!?!? i dont want to watch a bunch of unathletic white boys run around and shooting 3's all day! im so glad that REAL basketball has finally returned to raleigh!
bobcatsdude 1 year ago
@bobcatsdude dude you crazy. the state team now is no good like always.
TheBillynewcomb 1 year ago
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@bobcatsdude dude you crazy. the state team now is no good like always. they are worse
TheBillynewcomb 1 year ago
This video hurts.... What did NC State do to be so cursed. Seems like NC State is it's own worst enemy.
1039sflem 2 years ago
Good job NC State fans. You just ran out a young legend. His style was perfect for you to be competitive in the ACC, and now your busy bending over half the time to your in state rivals. Don't worry though. He'll have less success at ASU, so you'll have a chance to get him back.
Hwth10 2 years ago
Les Robinson and Herb Sendek ruined NC State Basketball. Before 1990, NC State was actually a much better program than Duke.
BCEagle73 2 years ago 2
herb sucked the life out of the ncsu basketball programs he thought a win over Delaware state was just as important as the wins over UNC and Duke and Wake. Sidney Lowe has to reignite the basket ball program!!!!! HERB SUCKED!!!!!
wufpak14 2 years ago
Another first weekend loss in the NCAAT for Herb this year, his usual level of accomplishment.
westwuf 2 years ago
Yes, because Sidney Lowe's one winning season in his years of coaching is comparable/better
MaryToddWasRight 2 years ago
Sid is a great coach. Sometimes coaching at home just doesn't fit.
stateben17 2 years ago
Geez, I'd love to post a comment but there are no words to describe how utterly stupid this is. The only two coaches in the entire history of the ACC that were worse than Herb after spending eight years in the league were Hoot Gibson and Bobby Roberts. Only Hoot surpassed his inteptitude after ten years. Why anybody thinks he's a good coach is beyond comprehension.
packfanstk 3 years ago
No idea what you're talking about. herb sendek is a future hall of famer; he's only in his 40s and has more wins than most older coaches
MaryToddWasRight 2 years ago
The entire thought process behind this video sucks in a modified princeton style
hurleywood 3 years ago
What an incredibly stupid waste of time and effort on the part of the video's creator.
If it takes Sidney more than six years to get to the NCAA tournament -- the time it took Herb to do the same -- then perhaps we can discuss whether Herb is a better coach. I tell you what, though. James Harden is making Herb look like a freaking genius.
curlyfry007 3 years ago
Like most games against UNC and Duke in the 90's, the games Herb lost, we got blown away. I can only remember 2 games in which we lost to Carolina by a small margin. The 97 ACC Championship game when it was close the whole game until about the last 5 minutes ( we just ran out of gas), and in 99 when Ed Cota hit a couple of free throws to ice the game in the final seconds.
and only 1 game with Duke I remember being close, when we lost in overtime in Raleigh, in I think 99 or 2000.
mkshambl 3 years ago
8-38 against UNC and Duke. beat Duke only 3 times in 10 years--all upsets, never favored.
Beat UNC 5 times in 10 years- 1 upset, 4 when favored (those 4 came in consecutive years when UNC did not make the NCAA Tourney and only made it to the NIT the second season.)
0 ACC Regular Season Championships
0 ACC Tournament Champioships
0-3 in ACC Tournament Championship Games-Not favored in any
1 Sweet 16 in 10 years
Good guy, but 10 YEARS! with these stats is all he should've gotten anyway.
mkshambl 3 years ago
Having fun in last place with Kool-Aid man?
ayogirl 3 years ago
Bringing Herb back is the absolute last thing we need! Innovation not restoration.
SurfOrDieForever 3 years ago
Ummm No. In Sid I trust.
OHSWarhorse22 3 years ago
lol at Kool-Aid man. Herb was way better than Sid, no question.
ayogirl 3 years ago
ha we got him at arizona state and we love him! he's not leavin any time soon
dchond20 3 years ago 3
Please no more mediocre Herb
seisem2 3 years ago
Because he was so much worse than the giant tomato you guys have now. He at least got you to the tournament, Sid hasnt even won 10 ACC games yet.
ayogirl 3 years ago 2
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LOL. What a maroon.
0newolf 3 years ago
Look on the bright side. NCSU finished last in the conference .... there is only one way to go. I'm sure that will be a few years down the road when you all decide Sid needs to go.
we3luvdisney 3 years ago 2
How about you let Sidney get his players here before you decide that he "needs to go?"
Kthanks.
jus10ls 3 years ago
Herb Sendek is not the way to "restore pride and glory to NC State basketball."
jus10ls 3 years ago
And Sidney Lowe is?
we3luvdisney 3 years ago
8-38 against UNC and Duke. 4 of those wins came against UNC when they went back-to-back years of not going to the NCAA Tourney. Never won the ACC regular season title or ACC tourney. Choked in 1 ACC Championship game vs. Duke. Only 1 "very good" recruting class, out of 8. Coached teams that could only be categorized as bad to just plain mediocre.
mkshambl 3 years ago
my goodness...come on people, he never sweat one drop in any of his games at state. he didnt care. at least sidney does.
volspack 3 years ago
The three first seasons referred to where Sendek led the school to the post-season are all NIT. Woohoo! Didn't make the NCAA until his 6th season. Few ACC schools would have let him stick around even that long.
bigkelstrom 3 years ago
Ha ha ha ha ha this is funny. So is the State so called atletic dept and all their teams. Such a joke. Herb didn't and won't beat UNC and Dook, Sid won't either. Your school will never be good in sports and dominate like we do. Lee Foulup keeps bringing your school further and further down and down and down. Ya'll suck at everything. Oh, except cross country and bass fishing. Go HEELS!!
snnk141kursk 3 years ago
"Like we do"???? You got a frog in your pocket or something??? I know you did not graduate from high school, much less an ACC school. You are a joke
NCStateFan96 3 years ago 4
and your school is more of a joke. The joke of the whole ACC, and maybe even the country. Just take it boy, your school sucks!!!
snnk141kursk 3 years ago
Its ok snnk141 i know your just pissed because you couldnt get into NC State. How often do you visit the walmart?
wolfpackrock119 3 years ago 3
why would I be pissed about not being able to go to MooU? We have nothing to be pissed about. What a great season UNC has every year. 1 of the best Athletic depts. State the complete opposite. Voted 7th on the ugliest list. Like Holt said "All the fellows wanted to go to UNC", but like him, they couldn't (not smart enough). Saying goes, if you can't go to college, go to State. If you can't play ball, go to State. I'm happy laughing at your schools constant lows/mishaps/let downs/failures
snnk141kursk 3 years ago
Haha anyother bandwagon fan. This was a great season for UNC this right. I thought you guys were suppose to win the NC. Didnt even go to unc and denied from NC State,but likes them cause there basketball team is good. If your athletic department is good why does your football team suck? Why dont you cheer for the college that you went to?
wolfpackrock119 3 years ago 4
He aint goin anywhere. The way he was treated departing NC State and the quality of life he has now cannot be underestimated. The entire basketball nation "can't beat UNC and Duke" so have fun with Lowe and fire him when he "can't beat UNC and Duke." Guys, Jimmy V is gone and so are the 1980s. Get over yourselves.
corona67 3 years ago
I agree with you corona. Pack fans that chased Herb off are idiots. Sidney Lowe needs to go. He should never have been hired in the first place.
NCStateFan96 3 years ago
Hindsight is 20/20. We love him here at ASU.You screwed up bigtime. Enjoy Sidney Lowe.
Allsundevil 3 years ago 4
Hindsight is 20/20. Isn't it great. We love him here you fools.
Allsundevil 3 years ago 2
I think I speak for most NC State fans when i say, we don't want him back. This had to been made by a tarhole.
TPack 3 years ago
yeah because you much rather be below .500 and miss the NCAA tourney, AGAIN. Also, why in the hell would a unc want herb back after they swept you this year like we did?
TAD31089 3 years ago
Herb never beat Roy. Sid has. Give Sid time and he'll do it again. No matter how Lowe does in Raleigh, it was time for a change. UNC fans love Herb because not only does he lose to Duke and UNC, but he makes our fanbase mad.
TPack 3 years ago
Herb can't beat duke or carolina so he needed to GTFO.
brtyler5 3 years ago
You can't have him back!!! GO DEVILS!!!!
obyd 3 years ago 5
You can't have him back!!! We like, no, make that LOVE him right where he is!!! GO DEVILS!!!
obyd 3 years ago 6