To my understanding, entitlement programs in America like education and healthcare are exploited by illegals, and that's the crux of our problem. For aliens who don't qualify, they find jobs that Americans who qualify for unemployment or welfare will not take. I've spoken to farmers who will hire 20+ people per year who come in and do a shitty job just so they can be fired and still qualify for welfare. Cut entitlements, eliminate a lot of problems on both sides of the border.
The USA need those immigrants, but just a few million not that many, MEXICO needs to lower their fertility rates, the US can't add the surplus of immigrants that their countries can't take care of
@RockoJoe90 About the guns coming from the USA (not America) i was wrong, they come mostly from China but about the USA being worlds top drug consumer mainly becouse your war on drugs search for yourself if you dont buy that .
@bitterroad The guns the "bad" immigrants get are from the usa and the money comes from the sell of drugs (USA being worlds number one consumer) but yes hes got a point of the illegality but i dare him to take all illegal immigrants out of the usa (the social repercussions will be far worse than the "illegal immigrants") and also beyond the hipocrisy this guys (conservatives,republicans) sometimes fall into i really believe in many of the thing they say
@guanaguacoa What you are saying has no evidence behind it, you are simply spouting random nonsense. Where is there proof that the USA is the number one consumer of illegal drugs? We punish it the harshest, that is true, but that does not mean we consume them. Where do their guns come from? Well, if it is an automatic weapon, then it is either stolen or not made in America where automatic firearms are illegal without a class-three permit which costs a TON of money to maintain.
i believe it was milton friedamn that said that that kind of of immigration is good in part becouse it is ilegal, that stupid nobel prize winner liberalist who saved usa from stagflation he was so ignoramus
Nation states are a vestige of our primitive primate brains. It's literally something monkeys do. I can assure you that the future of the human race does not include nation states. There will be no borders in the future. It is only a question of how long regressives can stubbornly hold back the human race.
I agree that unrestricted immigration is suicidal, but a lot of the problem with our southern neighbors is the fault of American drug laws. It's no coincidence that the northern border is by far the worst part of Mexico. The cartels fight to control the drug trade with America. There are two solutions: either legalize all drugs or have Singapore-style laws whereby anyone caught with more than three joints of marijuana or a couple of grams of cocaine is hanged.
Filthy white "European" Americans are only in this continent because their ancestors cowardly fled like rats in hordes to America(the continent) instead of staying in Europe to fix their countries. At least the ancestors of present Europeans stayed to attempt to overcome all the hardships they faced. Just this week, a white "American" was caught watching child porn on an airplane. Disgusting white, pale, colorless gringos!
@mexxxsexxx America and Europe are both technologically advanced and (more or less) democratic societies. I'd much rather live in the USA or Europe than Mexico. No offense but if Mexico is so great then why are so many Mexicans illegally coming to America????
@anywayokay yea you guys have it good, we get muslims and their women are scared to date outside there religion because their father would kill them..and they all want human rights they take advantage of christian countrys and their laws and try to impose there islamic laws on there peoople...sharialaw ...i should be humble but its hard theres just to many of them and our government does nothing
@lolievittoreli Being Latino and being white has nothing do to with anything. I don't care if 40% will be Latino as long as they're not illegal immigrants i mean their still Americans and why would having 40% of our population Latino be a bad thing, well unless white people are a superior race therefore any lack of them would be...horrible, because that was a truly racist statement and by the way i am a conservative
@juliajuly4th They will be the children of illegals. that's bad, because the US was founded and built by whites, they formed what is now most of the american culture and society and that's what makes a nation a nation: people who share the same beliefs, culture and values. The current massive immigration will destroy all of it.
I know I'm being politically incorrect, but never in the history of mankind a group of people voluntariously let themselves become a minority in their own country.
@lolievittoreli why do you assume that because of someones race they are illegal immigrants? and need i remind you that our country is already made up of immigrants, are we not the great american melting pot? just because a person is white doesn't mean they're not an immigrant, please stop making yourself look like an idiot racist because there is a diffrence between an american with dark skin and an illegal alien
@juliajuly4th I'm not against legal immigration but totally against massive illegal immigration like the one that have been since 1970's. In the past things were very different, European immigrants were wanted because after all the US was basically a european country outside Europe, just with one visible minority living in it: blacks. The melting pot was actually an european melting pot not what people consider melting pot today.
@lolievittoreli ok, i do agree with that and thank you for clarifying , its just the one thing that really bugged me was when you said 40% will be latino when instead you should have pointed out the number of illegal immigrants...and yeah now were the salad bowl not the melting pot, my bad
Mexicans don't come here to adopt any new culture. They come here to colonize. Modern Americans are going to end up like the Native Americans. Sadly, most leftist would say that's a good thing.
On one hand, it is wrong to hate them and call them wetbacks. They are no different from us, in that they are just human beings trying to make their lives better.
On the other hand: Look, it's sad that things are so hard over where they live, but the cold, hard truth is that if they are all allowed to come to the States, it is just going to make things lousy over here, too.
@grungefreak10 yeah South park said it right, it just sad that the polliticians in American dont understand this because they are far left socialists, also in europe its a big prooblem too!
@grungefreak10: You do have a pretty valid point here: sadly, it really would be a major challeenge to accept all these people at once. TBH, I've always advocated a system of general acceptance. A certain number of people at a time, as to not overwhelm the system. =)
Hey dude, immigration is a GOOD sign it means that your country prosperous the moment there is no immigration then you should start getting worried. and besides you think the people give a shi*t that you aren't happy about them immigrating into your country they just want a better life.
Please check your states primary rules. Get registered as a republican so you can vote for RON PAUL in the PRIMARY --- WHERE IT COUNTS TO GET HIM ON THE BALLOT! Then the country can have a choice.
Please tell me one good reason why we shouldn't just grant amnesty to every illegal alien in the country and make the immigration process so much more simple. It should literally be so simple that you walk up to the border with an i.d. and sign your name. That's how we use to do it and it worked out great for us.
@munkyusm That was before 1914 and before the welfare system got underway. Now when they come across tax payers have to support them. Thousands of tons of drugs are now coming through the open border. Killers are coming through the border and when they kill someone here, they run back to Mexico and get away with it. Those are just a few reasons. Or you could ask Mexico why they don't allow Americans to just walk into their country, because they don't allow it.
@jboritzki Hmm, I wonder how many people kill people and run across the border? Maybe 100? As far as the tax payers go...quit giving welfare to everyone. There's a million other things we have to do, but this is a symptom of much bigger problems this stupid fucking country has. This is really a non issue once you deal with those. So, i say quit making such a big deal about it. People come here for a better life. Go google "asylum"...you could almost say those that come here are seeking it
@munkyusm First, I know 2 people that have been killed by illegals from Mexico, but thanks for pointing out that their lives are not that important. I've read that it it more like 12 a day, which puts it in the thousands per year. Keven and Meagan were not murdered though. They were killed by drunk driving illegals and one of them did get away with it by leaving the scene & returning to Mexico. I think you're just an angry kid that don't like authority. Stupid fucking country? That pathetic...
@jboritzki It has nothing to do with authority...so if they were "legal", would it be okay that ur friends were killed? You're pretending that it was because they were illegal that your friends are dead. Shit happens. Yes, the policies of this country are stupid, and the uneducated illogical voter base is a big part of the problem. This is basically morons afraid mexicans are going to outbreed them. If you make immigration easy, then you don't have so many "illegal" human beings.
@munkyusm That is ridiculous. You think the cure for something illegal is to just change it's label to legal? You're pretending that we're afraid of our breeding? That's horseshit. Get some books on economics, talk to some social workers about the problems of illegal immigration, then get yourself an opinion. And yes, my friends would still be alive if those illegals were not here in the first place. They didn't die because of drunk driving, they died because those specific illegals killed them.
@munkyusm If those 2 illegals were not here, those 2 friends of mine would still be alive. 2 illegals in another state did not kill my friends, it was those 2 specific illegals. It was not the American who also drove home drunk that night, or the American that drove and killed someone else's family member. The fact that it COULD have been an American drunk that killed them doesn't change the fact that it wasn't. It was in fact 2 people that had no business in this country & ignored our laws.
@jboritzki that's just an emotional response. It clearly is, because by your logic, had it been Americans who did it, you'd be wanting the abolishment of America.
@munkyusm No, you're obviously confused again, just like you were confused when you said
"how many people kill people and run across the border? Maybe 100?" It's actually thousands of Americans that are killed every year by illegals. See, you're advocating open borders and you don't even know what the problems we have with illegals are. Maybe it would help if you bothered to learn a little on the subject before you go having a militant opinion on it.
Another good presentation of the facts by Mr. Klaven. But, please understand that if you work for common sense immigration restrictions, protecting the border you will run up against power special interests - not all Liberal/Left. Agribusinesses want sub minimum wage slaves. The ethnic lobbies want more of their people LaRaza - the race and certain other ethnic groups in America hate traditional White America and favor letting everyone including Muslims in to change America.
If you think you can just easily put an ideology as complicated, unique and twisted as Nazism into neat little categories of "liberal" or "conservative", you need to actually read up on some history.
The facts are that they believed in certain policies that one would consider "liberal", policies one would consider "conservative", and policies that one would consider "bat-shit insane".
Quit calling each other nazis now, you fools. It contributes nothing to political dialogue.
I get it, I really do. But if I was just a regular joe schmoe who's been there legally for 30 fucking years, I would be pissed if I was fucked with all the time.
How about we invade mexico instead of staying in Iraq. It would create jobs, they have oil, we can better their economy and get them to stay there... or at least create a specialized mexican police force to control immigration. use them against each other!
Klaven - THAT sounds like a real Native American name. When did that joker come in? Read classical liberal thinkers on immigration - Liberalism by Ludwig von Mises is a great place to start.
The problem is not ILLEGALS coming into the United States, but rather crime committed by ILLEGALS. The ILLEGALS that do not commit serious crimes are generally unnoticed. Most ILLEGALS just want a better life, which they seem to find in the good ole USA.
Maybe our economic policies and massive war on drugs have created the immigration problem. We've essentially destroyed Mexicos economy, and made cartels incredibly rich. I see the so called illegal immigrants as refugees.
come on, mexican and latino inmigrants are not the problem. We didn't commit terrorist attacks, nor we managed banks to almost break the financial system. Beside probiding good and cheap labor for the contruction industry we had no say in the process that led many americans to lose their houses. And I don't think that an illegal inmigrat who doesn't speak english can take your dream job as teacher, doctor, police, executive, profesional sport, cowboy, etc. we didn't take nobody's job.
But don't worry, the immigrants have actually been leaving america the past few years! Did you know that? More immigrants are going back to mexico than are coming here, because this is the end of the line. When a country starts to see negative immigration, it's a sure sign of the end. Well, maybe not literally, but get ready for some hard times and you won't be able to blame the mexicans because they're leaving.
@n8glenn I too sympathize with many of the illegals, but a countrys first duty is to its citizens, who are being boxed out of job opportunites (also thanks to corporations who get away with paying illegals $.25 an hour), and this is especially harmful since the US is currently in a recession. But its easy for you to yap about compassion from your nice financially secure high-horse. 7 million illegal Mexicans residing in the US. I think we've been compassionate enough
Hey, RACIST, why don't you explain to your little dog "virtue" that your ancestors came to this country as immigrants. Explain to him that mexicans don't have the option of coming here legally, they either come here illegally, get a job to feed their children, or they stay in mexico and let them STARVE to death. But you're more worried about some silly law than you are about those children, right? Not filling out a fucking form is a catastrophe, poor people dying in the desert, eh, that's ok.
@n8glenn You and your fake outrage over people not following the law so they can survive. You wouldn't know "virtue" if your imaginary dog bit you on the ass. You have no virtue, you have no compassion, you have only hate and bigotry and callousness for those who are less fortunate than you and your imaginary friends.
@n8glenn Hey, guy who loves to use liberal buzzwords, I think hes just talking about illegal immigration, which is done despite the fact that many poor Mexicans DO come here legally. But Immigration in general has to be checked because its a detriment to border states, who have seen huge increases in drug-related crimes and violence. Many poor Mexicans need opportunities, but there are many poor Americans who need opportunities as well. Your fake self-righteousness is less convincing than Klavan
There is no border.Mexicans even sell ID's with Latin names to muslims,Indians,Brazilians,Chinese etcetc. They all come across with np as does tons of drugs,guns,criminals,gangs,it is a free for all and you are paying for it.
Adding up the cost of this highway to our hell is neverending and frightening.If many ppl knew the totals,they'd be armed at the border.
"The Arizona Corridor is one of the busiest and most violent smuggling corridors in the country. The criminal organizations involved in the smuggling of aliens will violate any law and have total disregard for human life. The violent, collateral crimes related to the smuggling infrastructure include murder, kidnapping, extortion, assault, sexual assault, home invasions, and vehicle collisions while attempting to evade the police."
Why do Liberals call the Republicans NAZI's? The NAZI's were lying, murderous theives who felt justified in killing millions due to some presumed sense of innate superiority that granted them the right to redefine their own morality to say that foreigners were subhumans who needed to be wiped out. They used fear and emotional manipulation to organize angry workers into thuggish gangs, to whom any violence was justified in order to "defend their way of life," just like the Tea Party.
@JonasPlanck Liberals and leftists don't use intellectual terrorism and emotional manipulation? Give me a break. It's their specialty. As for morality, they call theirs "progressive". Like gay marriage, laxism, abortion rights, open borders for everyone to swarm in (etc..) are somehow a "progress". Now that's what I would call a "sense of innate superiority" of their morals. Then they call those who disagree grumpy fascists.PS:I'm all for abortion rights btw, I just wouldn't call it progressive.
@Wotanraven Mentioning "swarms" of invading foreigners doesn't exactly bolster your argument. Maybe if you occasionally used some facts or logic instead of just saying you do, we could move past the name-calling, and actually discuss solutions, but until you concede that science is often right, and humans deserve to be treated like humans, we're never going to get anywhere, which is something I suspect is deliberate on your part.
@JonasPlanck It's funny how you put words in my mouth. When did I say I used facts and logic? (I do, but I didn't say I did ;). When did I deny science, and deny human rights? When did I use "name-calling"? You just proved my point by using intellectual terrorism and emotional manipulation. Thanks.
@Wotanraven "(I do, but I didn't say I did ;)" -- See? All too predictable. And by the way, that wasn't intellectual terrorism (whatever that means), that was my opinion on the groupthink personality so consistantly displayed by the cult of the right... I know not all conservatives are Fox zombies, but the most vocal ones are, and those who disagree only ever do so in defense of their own egos, never when it comes to policy. If your beliefs aren't reflected in policy, then what do you believe?
@JonasPlanck I do base my opinions on logic and fact, nothing predictable about it, it's normal and I'm sure you do too. And you did use emotional manipulation when you stated "humans deserve to be treated like humans", implying that I wanted to deny others of their basic rights when I said nothing of the sort. All I'm saying is certainty of being right is far from being a conservative monopoly ; leftists are just as content with themselves and proud at how their morality is the righteous one.
@JonasPlanck Wait, are you telling me that Tea Party members have committed violence? Really? You have videos of that? Mr. Breitbart might be willing to pay you for them. The only violence that has involved with the Tea Party has been TO Tea Party members by.... UNION thugs. I would suggest you make sure your "arguements' are based on facts... unless you wish to sound like Goebbels, what party was he with?
@BeukendaalMason No, I'm talking about all those jobs their candidates never created. But since you bring it up, are you saying all that talk of revolution was metaphorical? You know, watering the tree of liberty with blood... but not really? Taking back our nation... with strong words? Maybe a leaflet campaign? Okay, I'll buy your premise that your threats are empty, and you have no intention of acting on your promises. But I'll need to see some facts to back that up.
@JonasPlanck No, you compared Nazis to Republicans. Stay on topic. Talking about jobs, the Democrats didnt help keep so many jobs with their nearly $1 trillion "stimulus package" (passed by Dem Congress AND President) which didnt prevent an ADDITIONAL 3% GREATER unemployement. I guess those jobs weren't so "shovel ready". The Republicans only gained a plurality in the House, while the Dems still control the others. While the Republicans try to create legislation, the Dems just try to spend.
@JonasPlanck But what HAS the Tea Party movement done? They created political grassroots groups, sent out LEAFLETS, held RALLIES, and created a "revolution" of average Americans becoming active in politics. And have we seen violence from them? No? Democrats said "bloody them" and "get a little bloody." Who havent done ANYTHING, right? Besides bite a man's finger off... or beat another unconscious... or call Black men and women "Uncle Toms", "Oreos", and "race traitors" (racist terms)
@BeukendaalMason Are you saying Thomas Sowell doesn't have a nephew? naw just kidding, I'm done with you guys. You win. No republican has ever started a war, or said anything that sounded violent, or shot up a school, or bombed a clinic or government building, or got misled by a heavily funded astroturf foundation into thinking it was "grassroots", or curbstomped a liberal douche, or spouted any crap about how libs are Nazis, or made any racist statements at all. Happy now? Go back to sleep.
@ThatHaloGuy117 The Nazis were fascists... Fascism is a right winged ideology. They used the word socialism the same way the Soviet Union used the word republic.
@ThatHaloGuy117 Whore? I don't believe I'm qualified to be that. You are quite a kind soul, aren't you? Please, can you inform me as to why Hitler and Stalin hated each other so much if Fascism and Communism are both left wing ideologies?
@DarkAnderebu They hated each other because they envied the other's power. And yes Fascism is a left wing ideology, even though Hitler was a fucking National Socialist, and leftists don't want to admit it even though other left wing ideologies have caused 10 times more deaths than Hitler. Also on a side note, why do you Socialist scum side with Muslims, I thought they went against all of your beliefs?
@ThatHaloGuy117 Actually, I'm a moderate. I believe that both left and right are necessary in a political atmosphere in order to have a balanced and stable state. Hitler and Stalin did not get along because Fascism is indeed a right-winged political ideology and can be proven by looking at any political spectrum or preferably a graph so that you would see it in the authoritarian right. Communism is the authoritarian left which was what horrible murderers like Stalin supported.
@DarkAnderebu Listen I have nothing against you personally, but the only thing I Hate more than Liberals, are the moderates that believe all sides are right or all sides are wrong. If your revisionist teachers at school truly have taught you that Hitler was right wing and fascist, then America is doomed. Hitler was a Socialist, his first law was removal of all weapons, he gave out welfare checks, and he despised the rich. This goes against everything right wing.
@DarkAnderebu Fascism is another left wing Ideology just as socialism, communism, and Marxism. It is a totalitarian government and one of Mussolini's first laws was also disarming the people. Fascism is just a less advanced form of Communism. Also I believe the Left is necessary to the right as evil is to good.
@DarkAnderebu Its ok ive had a very hard time geting these right wing fanatics to accept reality they just cant belive that their politics could creat suck a political ideology many of the people that subscribe to klaven will just playin reject facts like hitler had communist arrested ps im a libreal but i know that taking any political theory to its extreams
@DarkAnderebu Communism as the extream left wing and Fascism as the extream right wing will only creat disaster for all people i advice you not to try to argue with these people the're just as brain washed in self indused propaganda as the greman people under hitler were aka the guy you were just arguin with "i think that left is necasary to the right as good is to evil" brain washed
Anarcho Libertarianism is the extreme right wing. Fascism is either a combination of right wing and left wing ideas or it is purely left wing if you are talking about the political spectrum in America
@ThatHaloGuy117 Wrong fascism is the most right wing form of goverment ever created and i now your going to start screaming no its left wing so let me save you the trouple read or take an actuall political science class and then your going to scream but right wing wants less goverment and fascism is the expantion of goverment and yes that's true but when you look at it over all its right wing
@Luis568369 You must be over at Harvard University, oh all the knowledge and political propaganda. Did your Professor "enlighten you"? Fascism is totalitarianism, it is a pure dictitorial rule. The government controls all corporations and all the people. There is no free speech. You have no firearms rights. In schools they sing praises to Obama (oh sorry I mean Mussolini) You are a Typical Liberal, you probably don't know who freed the slaves, or who gave rights to women and blacks.
@Luis568369 You are a very sick person, I hope when you grow older you may be relieved of this sickness, Hell you may even become a president like Ronald Reagan (he was a liberal in his young years then he saw through It) But right now you are trying to say Hitler was a Fascist (even though Fascism is still far left) and you try to pass on the blame, over and over.
"It is not that Liberals are Ignorant, it is that they know so much that isn't so"
@ThatHaloGuy117 Examples immigartion left wing yes Fascism(right wing) no Abortion left wing yes Fascism (no) Gay marrige left wing yes Fascism (no) its right wing stop geting your information from geln beck or fox news
@Luis568369 Also dumbass, Hitler was a fucking Socialist, is that your plan now? tell everyone that Hitler was a Fascist? Also that's not a very good claim because Fascism is a Left wing Ideology. Go suck a Dick history Revisionist. (Imagine in twenty years, you'll have the state make praying to God Illegal everywhere) I'm fed up with you pricks.
@ThatHaloGuy117 No idiot nazi is NATIONOLIST SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY aka nazis before hitler were trying to abel to both the left and right wing but after he got controll of the party he kicked out all the SOCIALIST and he even jailed a few after he bacame fuher learn actuall history for once
@ThatHaloGuy117 Why do all you conservative idots hate college your smart people have no commen sense and thats why they're libreal is ignorance itself and goverment controll isnt the only thing that makes an idology right or left wing noam chomsky is an anarchist but falls within the left wing.
@ThatHaloGuy117 And the republican party of the 1800's was libreal and progresive the oposite of conservative you republican have nothing in common except the name republican. The last progresive republican was theodore roosevelt
what you fail to realize is that "progressive" is an objective term when talking about anything, so being "progressive" in the 1800s could actually be quite different from being "progressive" today.
What you also fail to realize is that those called "progressive" throughout history were still radically right wing when it comes to comparing them to today's "progressives" or even the Conservatives of today.
@ptbwf Of course over all the world has moved to the left since 200 years ago and no over all fascism falls in the right wing of the political spectrum but the republican party of today is nothing like the republicans that founded the party 200 years ago
@ptbwf yes the world is more libreal then it was 200 years ago and fasism is considered a right wing political theory but when the republicans compare themselves to the old GOP that was extreamly libreal for their time its pisses me off since they would have had nothing in commen
you do realize that what you said makes no sense, right?
Every national politician born before the 60s would be Republicans today, there is no question.
Fascism would also be left wing in a earlier America, considering that almost every public institution that has to exist for fascism to actually thrive didn't exist in a earlier America, America was almost completely private at one time, no other developed country can make that claim.
@ptbwf Im sure their were libreal before the 60s that voted for what was considered at the time the extremly libreal civil rights act that was based by a democratic controlled congress and your going to tell me that 70 to 90% of republicans voted for it will only 60% od democrated did but that was before the dixycrates left the party and joined the republicans in the southern stratagy
It is good to know that you realize you are against everything Lincoln stood for, as well as the actual activists, who were more to the left of Lincoln.
So what is the point of the left today then if the right of today is further to the left than the left of the past?
You do realize that all the left is doing today is destroying personal freedom and pushing us closer to complete communist control, right?
li@ptbwf What the fuck are you talking about you canot compare political ideologys that are 200 years apart and yes fascism is right wing acording yo my political theory text but no wait my book is really a secret libreal plan to make all young people gay makes total sence just like the left wants to make the world communist
@ThatHaloGuy117 Never heard of the southern strategy haveyou the plans republicans used to get southern voters that left the DEMOCRATIC party after the DEMOCRATIC PARTY CONTROLLED CONGRESS PASSED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT causing vast amounts of southerners to leave the part and republicans got with lost of their African American voting block that goined the democrates
@ThatHaloGuy117 Because they were also fascist. The Nazis controlled all the corporations and used the media as its propaganda tool. Nazism was a combination of socialism and fascism...so you can't really just give one side the credit for it. You shouldn't worry so much about libs vs repubs...if you really want to understand the world, go check out "anti-statism". Any enlightened person is anti-statist.
Nazis weren't really socialists. Kick someone out from a job and get someone you like to replace him isn't really an act to make equality between societies~
Nationalism and Socialism doesn't works well together.
..I dont remember seeing ANY of that in Mexico the last time I went. Especially Skelator. We all know that Skelator comes from Canada. Which explains his strange high voice and constant failure.
No I believe it's to live a life founded in the reality of the "actual". To succeed and strive for yourself, your family, and those dear to you. To live a life of creation, that serves your fellow man in reality, and builds a REAL legacy. Whimsical drug induced imaginings serve me no purpose.
Let me be clear Liberal pig. I don't care if you and a thousand Liberals like you kill yourself with drugs. But if any liberal loser tried to teach a kid of mine that it is ok to use such rot. I would slit their throat and watch them bleed out on the floor. GET ME!!! Now Please go do all the drugs you wish, you have my blessing to go wild. :)
"I would slit their throat" ha, someone's a bit violent and angry at the world. I think you're making the mistaken assumption that occasional use of psychedelics will completely incapacitate an individual and render them unable to perform like the good corporate-owned robot you envision them to be. You would have to really go overboard with a non-addictive substance such as shrooms or LSD, in order for that to happen. There is virtually no strain on the health system from these.
What is also funny is that by calling me a "Liberal Pig", you demonstrate that you see the world as "Liberal vs. Conservative", which is such a black and white us & them oversimplification. Black and White concepts only exist because simple-minded people exist. Reality is actually never black and white, it's almost always an ambiguous shade of grey. There aren't as many absolutes as you think.
Again, moderate use of drugs such as shrooms and LSD doesn't "kill you" at all.
@mcpencil Black and White Eh? Well it is the liberal model of supporting ethnic paternalistic community's that keeps the "Black/white" notion alive in minorities. If "black" was veiwed for the scapegoat for slavery that it was, then maybe more blacks wouldn't talk so paternally, or speak of a notion of reparations. Africans were slaves in Africa before the white men came to buy them. Being white skinned doesn't make you guilty of anything.
@mcpencil Liberal/Conservative notions directly conflict in a Black or White way, even on race issues. That was my point. I was also pointing out the Liberal upholding of a notion differance on racial issues with conservatives that preserves that Black or White divide, both literally and figuratively on Black/White notions as well as between Black/White people.
Reality is NOT black and white. It is grey. Most normal people don't have a purely "liberal" or a purely "conservative" view on issues. These are just labels we use for convenience and laziness. Anyway, im off for a while. Peace.
LOL A person who champions drug useage and has no God saying reality is relative and Grey, well wonders never cease. LOL Well in the case of my post on race. The notion of "black" was indeed just a SCAPEGOAT for racism, that is a fact, and is not relative. It a Black and White, right/wrong fact. It was just like when the nazis called Jews vermin in order to kill them. Only the godless who use drugs to warp the world they see further think their is no real clear Right or Wrong in the world.
@mcpencil btw....If Liberals were true to the Black/White fact that "Black" skin was used only as a scapegoat for racism, then they wouldn't push the paternalism they do now. That isn't relative....It is Wrong!!! It also doesn't help integration or equality. Only a moral relativist with no morals could think otherwise. If we actually lived to your example of liberal moral "relativity", I wonder what horrors like slavery would have gone unrighted.
Klavan.... do you realise that the organised crime which stems from 'drugs' is not the fault of Latino culture, but the fault of the "War on Drugs" which unnecessarily takes away our freedoms and makes personal choice a crime. Half the drugs that are illegal are no worse for you than coffee when used in moderation (ie. marijuana, lsd, mushrooms, mescaline, dmt). The illegal status of drugs creates criminals, and jailing them actually makes them harder criminals.
Erm... addiction to shrooms??? Psychedelics aren't addictive, physically or mentally. If you CHOOSE to abuse psychedelics by taking too much too often, that's your problem and you deserve to face the consequences. Notice how I said "In moderation"?
No one is forcing anyone to take drugs. It's called personal responsibility. If everyone took LSD now and then, it would create a far better society. All prohibition achieves is creating a whole new class of criminals.
@mcpencil The issue is your arguement that these drug "freedoms" would serve any benefit to society. Many Liberitarians and others think we should be free to do any drug we want,and damb the consequences, because they will be personal. That is not the truth though, and we already deal with the social problems of the legal drug Alcohol. This "moderation" defence for things that warp reality, does not help your arguement.
You act like there is a problem with experiencing an altered state of consciousness. Sure, it can be frightening for those not knowing what to expect, or if it dredges up emotional shit that you have to deal with anyway. But for the most part, the reason people do psychedelics is because they add to their lives. It seems to me like you think our value to society is only as corporate robots.
Note that I am not defending legitimately dangerous drugs such as Meth, Heroin, Cocaine.
@mcpencil No I believe it's to live a life founded in the reality of the "actual". To succeed and strive for yourself, your family, and those dear to you. To live a life of creation, that serves your fellow man in reality, and builds a REAL legacy. Whimsical drug induced imaginings serve me no purpose.
@mcpencil You speak of freedom to do what you like. Yet our society is now full of Liberal self actualizing losers, who need others to take care of their shit for them and pay for it. sigh :( Why couldn't I have been born in the days of the original Homesteaders of the west. Own your own land, build your own home, raise a strong family, sweat blood and tears for your own prosperity, and have the right to keep it. That is the worthy life that is being lost by those that think like you.
You didn't really respond to or acknowledge any of the things I said, but that's ok. Your 'homesteaders' fantasy is quite romantic :) It also has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying: "Drugs Are Bad, mmkay" = propaganda. The war on drugs just CREATES criminals out of thin air, and fills up the prison system... basically, your taxes are going into making people into harder criminals. The way I see it, drug dealers are entrepreneurs who are filling a market demand.
@mcpencil It's people much similar to you who waste their time worrying what drug or "some other nothing" that they can't do, that need everyone living in reality who actually does something, to take care of them. When man came into being for the first time. He didn't say "lets do drugs". He had to much shit to do because life itself doesn't give you anything. Or did Adam say to God "Let me do drugs and have ObamaCare".
Ok, first of all, there was no Adam. Evolution is a proud product of the same scientific process that brought you the computer you are typing from right now. It's more well-supported than the theory of Gravity. You talk about "reality" and yet your worldview revolves around a fantastic delusion you picked up from an ancient text. Religion is a drug too, it brings existential comfort for the ignorant :)
Just because drugs serve you no purpose, does place you above anyone else.
@mcpencil Doesn't place me above eh? Well we see how useful all the drug freedom wanting liberals are, especially when they demand collectivist bull shit to take care of them, don't we? Where is that being personally responsable shit you talked so well about with the drug use, for the rest of life. Sounds a bit selective. :)
There should be more social freedoms in society. Homosexuals should be able to marry. What's wrong with abortions? the fetus has never been sentient - it's not a person. Same goes for Stem Cells. People should be free from having religious superstition taught to their kids while their heads are still soft. There's nothing wrong with certain drugs in moderation. Conservatives go on and on about being about 'small government' and personal freedoms, and yet they're so Puritan.
In every culture throughout history, humans have had ritualised taking of psychedelics to induce altered states of consciousness. Now, due to some presumably "Christian" moral hangup, always by the conservatives in society, these things are seen as entirely without merit, dangerous, immoral. "How DARE you desire to alter your God-given reality... by the way, you are a dirty sinner and totally unworthy by design, but God still loves you... now pay the church 10%..."
Also, could you point me to a scientific study which says that LSD/peyote/mushrooms are addictive? No, I didn't think so. There is such a thing as personal freedoms and personal choice. A person choosing to use these substances responsibly (ie. you probably shouldnt drive.. only an true idiot would do that) does not infringe on anyone else's rights. What gives someone the right to legislate what I can and cannot put in my body? It's not even harmful at all in moderation.
@mcpencil Sure idiot....No worse than Coffee. That is why in a US intercity community the a presence of drugs has made things so great for them right? LOL I am sure an addiction to Shrooms would lead to a much more productive society, than going for a daily cup of coffee. Yeah right!!! The effects of these drugs and their addictiveness is nothing we want here the US. Loser!!!
I think this quote from the company website says it all: "PAJAMAS, FOR ITSELF AND EACH OF ITS LICENSORS, MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS, WARRANTIES, OR GUARANTEES AS TO THE QUALITY, SUITABILITY, TRUTH, ACCURACY OR COMPLETENESS OF ANY INFORMATION OR MATERIAL CONTAINED ON THE SITE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION PAJAMAS CONTECT AND ANY THIRD PARTY CONTENT."
So no claims as to quality, truth, or accuracy of their reporting? Sounds like a hack news source.
@thecoolestgrey You have no clue what you are talking about do you? States enforcing federal laws is wrong? What about federal drug laws? States have been enforcing those for decades. Immigration is not "foreign policy" it is domestic policy. It is up to countries to decide the amount and origin of immigrants on their own, not by inter-country treaties. You definately havent read the Arizona law, it states specifically that ethnicity cannot be used. I would suggest you educate yourself.
To my understanding, entitlement programs in America like education and healthcare are exploited by illegals, and that's the crux of our problem. For aliens who don't qualify, they find jobs that Americans who qualify for unemployment or welfare will not take. I've spoken to farmers who will hire 20+ people per year who come in and do a shitty job just so they can be fired and still qualify for welfare. Cut entitlements, eliminate a lot of problems on both sides of the border.
djb5255 5 days ago
The USA need those immigrants, but just a few million not that many, MEXICO needs to lower their fertility rates, the US can't add the surplus of immigrants that their countries can't take care of
007GoldenLion 1 week ago
Half the fun was all of the images scrolling though the background.
elliott421 1 week ago
Illegal Obama Immigrant at 3:02, I didn't know AZ bordered Kenya?
ClTIZEN 1 month ago
@ClTIZEN hahah that was funny...and I'm Kenyan :)
mimikinjo 1 month ago
@mimikinjo and I'm scottish :) happy new year from scotland
ClTIZEN 4 weeks ago
@ClTIZEN Happy new year mate.
mimikinjo 4 weeks ago
@RockoJoe90 About the guns coming from the USA (not America) i was wrong, they come mostly from China but about the USA being worlds top drug consumer mainly becouse your war on drugs search for yourself if you dont buy that .
guanaguacoa 1 month ago
@bitterroad The guns the "bad" immigrants get are from the usa and the money comes from the sell of drugs (USA being worlds number one consumer) but yes hes got a point of the illegality but i dare him to take all illegal immigrants out of the usa (the social repercussions will be far worse than the "illegal immigrants") and also beyond the hipocrisy this guys (conservatives,republicans) sometimes fall into i really believe in many of the thing they say
guanaguacoa 1 month ago
@guanaguacoa What you are saying has no evidence behind it, you are simply spouting random nonsense. Where is there proof that the USA is the number one consumer of illegal drugs? We punish it the harshest, that is true, but that does not mean we consume them. Where do their guns come from? Well, if it is an automatic weapon, then it is either stolen or not made in America where automatic firearms are illegal without a class-three permit which costs a TON of money to maintain.
RockoJoe90 1 month ago
i believe it was milton friedamn that said that that kind of of immigration is good in part becouse it is ilegal, that stupid nobel prize winner liberalist who saved usa from stagflation he was so ignoramus
guanaguacoa 1 month ago
@guanaguacoa You going adopt everything else he ever said if not why should we listen to either if you?
bitterroad 1 month ago in playlist Andrew Klavan
Nation states are a vestige of our primitive primate brains. It's literally something monkeys do. I can assure you that the future of the human race does not include nation states. There will be no borders in the future. It is only a question of how long regressives can stubbornly hold back the human race.
lemonrind 1 month ago
@lemonrind
So what does the future include? One world government?
NonSapor 2 weeks ago
@NonSapor Yes.
lemonrind 2 weeks ago
I agree that unrestricted immigration is suicidal, but a lot of the problem with our southern neighbors is the fault of American drug laws. It's no coincidence that the northern border is by far the worst part of Mexico. The cartels fight to control the drug trade with America. There are two solutions: either legalize all drugs or have Singapore-style laws whereby anyone caught with more than three joints of marijuana or a couple of grams of cocaine is hanged.
Jakareh75 1 month ago
@Jakareh75 You just gave me a really good reason to like Singapore.
dougmoerhoffman 1 month ago
Filthy white "European" Americans are only in this continent because their ancestors cowardly fled like rats in hordes to America(the continent) instead of staying in Europe to fix their countries. At least the ancestors of present Europeans stayed to attempt to overcome all the hardships they faced. Just this week, a white "American" was caught watching child porn on an airplane. Disgusting white, pale, colorless gringos!
mexxxsexxx 2 months ago
@mexxxsexxx Oh look a "racist" spic.
Go kill yourself beaner.
Furmanov18 1 month ago
@mexxxsexxx America and Europe are both technologically advanced and (more or less) democratic societies. I'd much rather live in the USA or Europe than Mexico. No offense but if Mexico is so great then why are so many Mexicans illegally coming to America????
AresCassell 1 month ago 3
@AresCassell I am Mexican and I think you are very right... but then again I am probably a raciest. >.>
juannyface 1 month ago
@juannyface Ohh you are so racist :^)
AresCassell 1 month ago
Actually Mr. Klavan, Bumblebee Man from the Simpsons is here legally. He got amnesty in the 1980's from Ronald Reagan's administration.
NewUser21111 2 months ago
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juliajuly4th 2 months ago
I agree with Andrew 100% here but let's look on the bright side. At least Mexicans aren't Muslims. Things could be worse. This could be Europe.
anywayokay 2 months ago
@anywayokay yea you guys have it good, we get muslims and their women are scared to date outside there religion because their father would kill them..and they all want human rights they take advantage of christian countrys and their laws and try to impose there islamic laws on there peoople...sharialaw ...i should be humble but its hard theres just to many of them and our government does nothing
Chewychu31 2 months ago
Latinos will be 40 % of the US population by 2050 ! Whites will fall from the highest 90% in 1950 to lowest 45 % by 2050.
Why people consider this a good thing ?
lolievittoreli 2 months ago
@lolievittoreli Being Latino and being white has nothing do to with anything. I don't care if 40% will be Latino as long as they're not illegal immigrants i mean their still Americans and why would having 40% of our population Latino be a bad thing, well unless white people are a superior race therefore any lack of them would be...horrible, because that was a truly racist statement and by the way i am a conservative
juliajuly4th 2 months ago
@juliajuly4th They will be the children of illegals. that's bad, because the US was founded and built by whites, they formed what is now most of the american culture and society and that's what makes a nation a nation: people who share the same beliefs, culture and values. The current massive immigration will destroy all of it.
I know I'm being politically incorrect, but never in the history of mankind a group of people voluntariously let themselves become a minority in their own country.
lolievittoreli 2 months ago
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@lolievittoreli why do you assume that because of someones race they are illegal immigrants? and need i remind you that our country is already made up of immigrants, are we not the great american melting pot? just because a person is white doesn't mean they're not an immigrant, please stop making yourself look like an idiot racist because there is a diffrence between an american with dark skin and an illegal alien
juliajuly4th 2 months ago
@juliajuly4th I'm not against legal immigration but totally against massive illegal immigration like the one that have been since 1970's. In the past things were very different, European immigrants were wanted because after all the US was basically a european country outside Europe, just with one visible minority living in it: blacks. The melting pot was actually an european melting pot not what people consider melting pot today.
lolievittoreli 2 months ago
@lolievittoreli ok, i do agree with that and thank you for clarifying , its just the one thing that really bugged me was when you said 40% will be latino when instead you should have pointed out the number of illegal immigrants...and yeah now were the salad bowl not the melting pot, my bad
juliajuly4th 2 months ago
@lolievittoreli " They will be the children of illegal immigrants. that's bad, because the US was founded and built by illegal immigrants"
There. I fixed your comment.
TheRedLuigi 1 week ago
Contact your congressional people 2 Senators, and your rep., tell them to support HR-2885 the E-Verify bill, that will send the illegals packing!
legalcitizen19 2 months ago
Mexicans don't come here to adopt any new culture. They come here to colonize. Modern Americans are going to end up like the Native Americans. Sadly, most leftist would say that's a good thing.
UltraProle21 2 months ago 2
@UltraProle21 Why are you guys so scared of change?
TheRedLuigi 1 week ago
@TheRedLuigi i'm not scared of change. i want to change immigration policy in the US so these dirt poor illegals can't flood over the border.
UltraProle21 1 week ago
What a bore. I listened for 2 min.
falcon2160 2 months ago
What a bore.
falcon2160 2 months ago
1:25 "All these people want is to leave that awful place, and BRING SOME OF THEIR NATIVE CULTURE HERE TO US"
[laugh] LOL It's bringing their criminality over here (not strictly joking).
LampPlaceThing 2 months ago
Obama driving a Subaru Brat. Awesome.
2ndarymotion 2 months ago
keep the borders closed and the problem is fixed..
durexelitecondoom 2 months ago
@USAPropaganda Care about what? And I am not a liberal I am not even American, my point of view is neutral.
MrRussian19 3 months ago
I think 7 years ago, South Park said it best.
On one hand, it is wrong to hate them and call them wetbacks. They are no different from us, in that they are just human beings trying to make their lives better.
On the other hand: Look, it's sad that things are so hard over where they live, but the cold, hard truth is that if they are all allowed to come to the States, it is just going to make things lousy over here, too.
grungefreak10 3 months ago 17
@grungefreak10 yeah South park said it right, it just sad that the polliticians in American dont understand this because they are far left socialists, also in europe its a big prooblem too!
Chewychu31 2 months ago
@grungefreak10: You do have a pretty valid point here: sadly, it really would be a major challeenge to accept all these people at once. TBH, I've always advocated a system of general acceptance. A certain number of people at a time, as to not overwhelm the system. =)
MiracleMile90 1 week ago
Mexico doesn't have open borders - see how they threat Guatemalans that try to sneak over.
ScarletArchon 3 months ago 3
LOL! Look at Obama driving illegals over the border 3:00 hahaha!
FistsOfFury21 3 months ago
3:38 I liked the little happy chew wawa
ShadowWolf514 3 months ago
Skeletor seems to be a recurring theme here.
Metalmongoloid 3 months ago
Hey dude, immigration is a GOOD sign it means that your country prosperous the moment there is no immigration then you should start getting worried. and besides you think the people give a shi*t that you aren't happy about them immigrating into your country they just want a better life.
MrRussian19 4 months ago
@MrRussian19 Yeah, that is why we have NO problem with immigration. Its illegal immigration, we don't like.
JJJohnson32 3 months ago
@MrRussian19 i care :). Silly little liberal boy.
USAPropaganda 3 months ago
Skeletor is Mexican?
RichardDuryea 4 months ago 24
@RichardDuryea no, it's a fake mexican skeletor. they have a dozen fake copies of everything.
topperheartramada 2 weeks ago
Please check your states primary rules. Get registered as a republican so you can vote for RON PAUL in the PRIMARY --- WHERE IT COUNTS TO GET HIM ON THE BALLOT! Then the country can have a choice.
mamabritts 4 months ago
Please tell me one good reason why we shouldn't just grant amnesty to every illegal alien in the country and make the immigration process so much more simple. It should literally be so simple that you walk up to the border with an i.d. and sign your name. That's how we use to do it and it worked out great for us.
munkyusm 4 months ago
@munkyusm That was before 1914 and before the welfare system got underway. Now when they come across tax payers have to support them. Thousands of tons of drugs are now coming through the open border. Killers are coming through the border and when they kill someone here, they run back to Mexico and get away with it. Those are just a few reasons. Or you could ask Mexico why they don't allow Americans to just walk into their country, because they don't allow it.
jboritzki 4 months ago
@jboritzki Hmm, I wonder how many people kill people and run across the border? Maybe 100? As far as the tax payers go...quit giving welfare to everyone. There's a million other things we have to do, but this is a symptom of much bigger problems this stupid fucking country has. This is really a non issue once you deal with those. So, i say quit making such a big deal about it. People come here for a better life. Go google "asylum"...you could almost say those that come here are seeking it
munkyusm 4 months ago
@munkyusm First, I know 2 people that have been killed by illegals from Mexico, but thanks for pointing out that their lives are not that important. I've read that it it more like 12 a day, which puts it in the thousands per year. Keven and Meagan were not murdered though. They were killed by drunk driving illegals and one of them did get away with it by leaving the scene & returning to Mexico. I think you're just an angry kid that don't like authority. Stupid fucking country? That pathetic...
jboritzki 4 months ago
@jboritzki It has nothing to do with authority...so if they were "legal", would it be okay that ur friends were killed? You're pretending that it was because they were illegal that your friends are dead. Shit happens. Yes, the policies of this country are stupid, and the uneducated illogical voter base is a big part of the problem. This is basically morons afraid mexicans are going to outbreed them. If you make immigration easy, then you don't have so many "illegal" human beings.
munkyusm 4 months ago
@munkyusm That is ridiculous. You think the cure for something illegal is to just change it's label to legal? You're pretending that we're afraid of our breeding? That's horseshit. Get some books on economics, talk to some social workers about the problems of illegal immigration, then get yourself an opinion. And yes, my friends would still be alive if those illegals were not here in the first place. They didn't die because of drunk driving, they died because those specific illegals killed them.
jboritzki 4 months ago
@munkyusm If those 2 illegals were not here, those 2 friends of mine would still be alive. 2 illegals in another state did not kill my friends, it was those 2 specific illegals. It was not the American who also drove home drunk that night, or the American that drove and killed someone else's family member. The fact that it COULD have been an American drunk that killed them doesn't change the fact that it wasn't. It was in fact 2 people that had no business in this country & ignored our laws.
jboritzki 4 months ago
@jboritzki that's just an emotional response. It clearly is, because by your logic, had it been Americans who did it, you'd be wanting the abolishment of America.
munkyusm 4 months ago
@munkyusm No, you're obviously confused again, just like you were confused when you said
"how many people kill people and run across the border? Maybe 100?" It's actually thousands of Americans that are killed every year by illegals. See, you're advocating open borders and you don't even know what the problems we have with illegals are. Maybe it would help if you bothered to learn a little on the subject before you go having a militant opinion on it.
jboritzki 4 months ago
@jboritzki It's not a militant opinion...it's simply a logical one. You're using an emotional opinion, and I'm using a logical one.
munkyusm 4 months ago
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@jboritzki It's not a militant opinion...it's simply a logical one. You're using an emotional opinion, and I'm using a logical one.
munkyusm 4 months ago
Another good presentation of the facts by Mr. Klaven. But, please understand that if you work for common sense immigration restrictions, protecting the border you will run up against power special interests - not all Liberal/Left. Agribusinesses want sub minimum wage slaves. The ethnic lobbies want more of their people LaRaza - the race and certain other ethnic groups in America hate traditional White America and favor letting everyone including Muslims in to change America.
northwestmigration 4 months ago
If you think you can just easily put an ideology as complicated, unique and twisted as Nazism into neat little categories of "liberal" or "conservative", you need to actually read up on some history.
The facts are that they believed in certain policies that one would consider "liberal", policies one would consider "conservative", and policies that one would consider "bat-shit insane".
Quit calling each other nazis now, you fools. It contributes nothing to political dialogue.
eldrewto55 4 months ago
i could swear i saw bumblebee man their
healnrep 4 months ago
I love Skeletor comming over.
Aresolar690 5 months ago 13
I get it, I really do. But if I was just a regular joe schmoe who's been there legally for 30 fucking years, I would be pissed if I was fucked with all the time.
How about we invade mexico instead of staying in Iraq. It would create jobs, they have oil, we can better their economy and get them to stay there... or at least create a specialized mexican police force to control immigration. use them against each other!
Veredika 5 months ago
Klaven - THAT sounds like a real Native American name. When did that joker come in? Read classical liberal thinkers on immigration - Liberalism by Ludwig von Mises is a great place to start.
bhobbs 5 months ago
The problem is not ILLEGALS coming into the United States, but rather crime committed by ILLEGALS. The ILLEGALS that do not commit serious crimes are generally unnoticed. Most ILLEGALS just want a better life, which they seem to find in the good ole USA.
GringoTelevision 5 months ago
@GringoTelevision That correct. poor people should be allowed to move into your house because all they want is a better house for themselves.
magicmoonbeam2 5 months ago
@magicmoonbeam2 Muchas gracias. Tiene toda razon! Los pobres debiera tener casa propia.
GringoTelevision 5 months ago
Maybe our economic policies and massive war on drugs have created the immigration problem. We've essentially destroyed Mexicos economy, and made cartels incredibly rich. I see the so called illegal immigrants as refugees.
guahcap 5 months ago
lol bumblebee man... oh the world is complicated.
virenetanel 5 months ago
come on, mexican and latino inmigrants are not the problem. We didn't commit terrorist attacks, nor we managed banks to almost break the financial system. Beside probiding good and cheap labor for the contruction industry we had no say in the process that led many americans to lose their houses. And I don't think that an illegal inmigrat who doesn't speak english can take your dream job as teacher, doctor, police, executive, profesional sport, cowboy, etc. we didn't take nobody's job.
Volovox 5 months ago
@Volovox They commit more crime then what there was before. And soak up MORE government tax payer goodies like food stamps, medicaid, etc.
I know your culture and people mean the world to you, but to us. Its not that important or has contributed very little to humanity...
"the problem with Mexico today, is that its ran by Mexicans". - Abraham Lincoln 1863
fargonbastedge 5 months ago
HEY obama how many illegals you got in that car?
aquawoelfly 5 months ago
Your an idiot
155buck 5 months ago
But don't worry, the immigrants have actually been leaving america the past few years! Did you know that? More immigrants are going back to mexico than are coming here, because this is the end of the line. When a country starts to see negative immigration, it's a sure sign of the end. Well, maybe not literally, but get ready for some hard times and you won't be able to blame the mexicans because they're leaving.
n8glenn 5 months ago
@n8glenn I too sympathize with many of the illegals, but a countrys first duty is to its citizens, who are being boxed out of job opportunites (also thanks to corporations who get away with paying illegals $.25 an hour), and this is especially harmful since the US is currently in a recession. But its easy for you to yap about compassion from your nice financially secure high-horse. 7 million illegal Mexicans residing in the US. I think we've been compassionate enough
Aresolar690 5 months ago
Hey, RACIST, why don't you explain to your little dog "virtue" that your ancestors came to this country as immigrants. Explain to him that mexicans don't have the option of coming here legally, they either come here illegally, get a job to feed their children, or they stay in mexico and let them STARVE to death. But you're more worried about some silly law than you are about those children, right? Not filling out a fucking form is a catastrophe, poor people dying in the desert, eh, that's ok.
n8glenn 5 months ago
@n8glenn You and your fake outrage over people not following the law so they can survive. You wouldn't know "virtue" if your imaginary dog bit you on the ass. You have no virtue, you have no compassion, you have only hate and bigotry and callousness for those who are less fortunate than you and your imaginary friends.
n8glenn 5 months ago
@n8glenn Hey, guy who loves to use liberal buzzwords, I think hes just talking about illegal immigration, which is done despite the fact that many poor Mexicans DO come here legally. But Immigration in general has to be checked because its a detriment to border states, who have seen huge increases in drug-related crimes and violence. Many poor Mexicans need opportunities, but there are many poor Americans who need opportunities as well. Your fake self-righteousness is less convincing than Klavan
Aresolar690 5 months ago
There is no border.Mexicans even sell ID's with Latin names to muslims,Indians,Brazilians,Chinese etcetc. They all come across with np as does tons of drugs,guns,criminals,gangs,it is a free for all and you are paying for it.
Adding up the cost of this highway to our hell is neverending and frightening.If many ppl knew the totals,they'd be armed at the border.
goldensassenach 5 months ago
"The Arizona Corridor is one of the busiest and most violent smuggling corridors in the country. The criminal organizations involved in the smuggling of aliens will violate any law and have total disregard for human life. The violent, collateral crimes related to the smuggling infrastructure include murder, kidnapping, extortion, assault, sexual assault, home invasions, and vehicle collisions while attempting to evade the police."
SOURCE: GIITEM TASK FORCE ARIZONA
1Cactusprick 6 months ago
Why do Liberals call the Republicans NAZI's? The NAZI's were lying, murderous theives who felt justified in killing millions due to some presumed sense of innate superiority that granted them the right to redefine their own morality to say that foreigners were subhumans who needed to be wiped out. They used fear and emotional manipulation to organize angry workers into thuggish gangs, to whom any violence was justified in order to "defend their way of life," just like the Tea Party.
JonasPlanck 6 months ago
@JonasPlanck Liberals and leftists don't use intellectual terrorism and emotional manipulation? Give me a break. It's their specialty. As for morality, they call theirs "progressive". Like gay marriage, laxism, abortion rights, open borders for everyone to swarm in (etc..) are somehow a "progress". Now that's what I would call a "sense of innate superiority" of their morals. Then they call those who disagree grumpy fascists.PS:I'm all for abortion rights btw, I just wouldn't call it progressive.
Wotanraven 6 months ago
@Wotanraven Mentioning "swarms" of invading foreigners doesn't exactly bolster your argument. Maybe if you occasionally used some facts or logic instead of just saying you do, we could move past the name-calling, and actually discuss solutions, but until you concede that science is often right, and humans deserve to be treated like humans, we're never going to get anywhere, which is something I suspect is deliberate on your part.
JonasPlanck 6 months ago
@JonasPlanck It's funny how you put words in my mouth. When did I say I used facts and logic? (I do, but I didn't say I did ;). When did I deny science, and deny human rights? When did I use "name-calling"? You just proved my point by using intellectual terrorism and emotional manipulation. Thanks.
Wotanraven 6 months ago
@Wotanraven "(I do, but I didn't say I did ;)" -- See? All too predictable. And by the way, that wasn't intellectual terrorism (whatever that means), that was my opinion on the groupthink personality so consistantly displayed by the cult of the right... I know not all conservatives are Fox zombies, but the most vocal ones are, and those who disagree only ever do so in defense of their own egos, never when it comes to policy. If your beliefs aren't reflected in policy, then what do you believe?
JonasPlanck 6 months ago
@JonasPlanck I do base my opinions on logic and fact, nothing predictable about it, it's normal and I'm sure you do too. And you did use emotional manipulation when you stated "humans deserve to be treated like humans", implying that I wanted to deny others of their basic rights when I said nothing of the sort. All I'm saying is certainty of being right is far from being a conservative monopoly ; leftists are just as content with themselves and proud at how their morality is the righteous one.
Wotanraven 6 months ago
@JonasPlanck Wait, are you telling me that Tea Party members have committed violence? Really? You have videos of that? Mr. Breitbart might be willing to pay you for them. The only violence that has involved with the Tea Party has been TO Tea Party members by.... UNION thugs. I would suggest you make sure your "arguements' are based on facts... unless you wish to sound like Goebbels, what party was he with?
BeukendaalMason 6 months ago
@BeukendaalMason No, I'm talking about all those jobs their candidates never created. But since you bring it up, are you saying all that talk of revolution was metaphorical? You know, watering the tree of liberty with blood... but not really? Taking back our nation... with strong words? Maybe a leaflet campaign? Okay, I'll buy your premise that your threats are empty, and you have no intention of acting on your promises. But I'll need to see some facts to back that up.
JonasPlanck 6 months ago
@JonasPlanck No, you compared Nazis to Republicans. Stay on topic. Talking about jobs, the Democrats didnt help keep so many jobs with their nearly $1 trillion "stimulus package" (passed by Dem Congress AND President) which didnt prevent an ADDITIONAL 3% GREATER unemployement. I guess those jobs weren't so "shovel ready". The Republicans only gained a plurality in the House, while the Dems still control the others. While the Republicans try to create legislation, the Dems just try to spend.
BeukendaalMason 6 months ago
@JonasPlanck But what HAS the Tea Party movement done? They created political grassroots groups, sent out LEAFLETS, held RALLIES, and created a "revolution" of average Americans becoming active in politics. And have we seen violence from them? No? Democrats said "bloody them" and "get a little bloody." Who havent done ANYTHING, right? Besides bite a man's finger off... or beat another unconscious... or call Black men and women "Uncle Toms", "Oreos", and "race traitors" (racist terms)
BeukendaalMason 6 months ago
@BeukendaalMason Are you saying Thomas Sowell doesn't have a nephew? naw just kidding, I'm done with you guys. You win. No republican has ever started a war, or said anything that sounded violent, or shot up a school, or bombed a clinic or government building, or got misled by a heavily funded astroturf foundation into thinking it was "grassroots", or curbstomped a liberal douche, or spouted any crap about how libs are Nazis, or made any racist statements at all. Happy now? Go back to sleep.
JonasPlanck 6 months ago
Why do Liberals call the Republicans NAZI's? The NAZI's were socialists like the liberals.
ThatHaloGuy117 6 months ago 50
@ThatHaloGuy117 The Nazis were fascists... Fascism is a right winged ideology. They used the word socialism the same way the Soviet Union used the word republic.
DarkAnderebu 5 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Jesus Christ you're a fucking Leftist whore!
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Whore? I don't believe I'm qualified to be that. You are quite a kind soul, aren't you? Please, can you inform me as to why Hitler and Stalin hated each other so much if Fascism and Communism are both left wing ideologies?
DarkAnderebu 5 months ago
@DarkAnderebu They hated each other because they envied the other's power. And yes Fascism is a left wing ideology, even though Hitler was a fucking National Socialist, and leftists don't want to admit it even though other left wing ideologies have caused 10 times more deaths than Hitler. Also on a side note, why do you Socialist scum side with Muslims, I thought they went against all of your beliefs?
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Actually, I'm a moderate. I believe that both left and right are necessary in a political atmosphere in order to have a balanced and stable state. Hitler and Stalin did not get along because Fascism is indeed a right-winged political ideology and can be proven by looking at any political spectrum or preferably a graph so that you would see it in the authoritarian right. Communism is the authoritarian left which was what horrible murderers like Stalin supported.
DarkAnderebu 5 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Listen I have nothing against you personally, but the only thing I Hate more than Liberals, are the moderates that believe all sides are right or all sides are wrong. If your revisionist teachers at school truly have taught you that Hitler was right wing and fascist, then America is doomed. Hitler was a Socialist, his first law was removal of all weapons, he gave out welfare checks, and he despised the rich. This goes against everything right wing.
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Fascism is another left wing Ideology just as socialism, communism, and Marxism. It is a totalitarian government and one of Mussolini's first laws was also disarming the people. Fascism is just a less advanced form of Communism. Also I believe the Left is necessary to the right as evil is to good.
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Its ok ive had a very hard time geting these right wing fanatics to accept reality they just cant belive that their politics could creat suck a political ideology many of the people that subscribe to klaven will just playin reject facts like hitler had communist arrested ps im a libreal but i know that taking any political theory to its extreams
Luis568369 5 months ago
@DarkAnderebu Communism as the extream left wing and Fascism as the extream right wing will only creat disaster for all people i advice you not to try to argue with these people the're just as brain washed in self indused propaganda as the greman people under hitler were aka the guy you were just arguin with "i think that left is necasary to the right as good is to evil" brain washed
Luis568369 5 months ago
@Luis568369
Anarcho Libertarianism is the extreme right wing. Fascism is either a combination of right wing and left wing ideas or it is purely left wing if you are talking about the political spectrum in America
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Wrong fascism is the most right wing form of goverment ever created and i now your going to start screaming no its left wing so let me save you the trouple read or take an actuall political science class and then your going to scream but right wing wants less goverment and fascism is the expantion of goverment and yes that's true but when you look at it over all its right wing
Luis568369 5 months ago
@Luis568369 You must be over at Harvard University, oh all the knowledge and political propaganda. Did your Professor "enlighten you"? Fascism is totalitarianism, it is a pure dictitorial rule. The government controls all corporations and all the people. There is no free speech. You have no firearms rights. In schools they sing praises to Obama (oh sorry I mean Mussolini) You are a Typical Liberal, you probably don't know who freed the slaves, or who gave rights to women and blacks.
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@Luis568369 You are a very sick person, I hope when you grow older you may be relieved of this sickness, Hell you may even become a president like Ronald Reagan (he was a liberal in his young years then he saw through It) But right now you are trying to say Hitler was a Fascist (even though Fascism is still far left) and you try to pass on the blame, over and over.
"It is not that Liberals are Ignorant, it is that they know so much that isn't so"
-Ronald Reagan
I hope you will learn it's means
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Examples immigartion left wing yes Fascism(right wing) no Abortion left wing yes Fascism (no) Gay marrige left wing yes Fascism (no) its right wing stop geting your information from geln beck or fox news
Luis568369 5 months ago
@Luis568369 Countering Liberal accusations at right wing: Totalitarianism right wing yes [no]
dictatorship right wing yes [no] government controlling of corporations right wing yes [no] indoctrination in schools right wing yes [no]
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@Luis568369 Also dumbass, Hitler was a fucking Socialist, is that your plan now? tell everyone that Hitler was a Fascist? Also that's not a very good claim because Fascism is a Left wing Ideology. Go suck a Dick history Revisionist. (Imagine in twenty years, you'll have the state make praying to God Illegal everywhere) I'm fed up with you pricks.
ThatHaloGuy117 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 No idiot nazi is NATIONOLIST SOCIALIST WORKERS PARTY aka nazis before hitler were trying to abel to both the left and right wing but after he got controll of the party he kicked out all the SOCIALIST and he even jailed a few after he bacame fuher learn actuall history for once
Luis568369 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Why do all you conservative idots hate college your smart people have no commen sense and thats why they're libreal is ignorance itself and goverment controll isnt the only thing that makes an idology right or left wing noam chomsky is an anarchist but falls within the left wing.
Luis568369 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 And the republican party of the 1800's was libreal and progresive the oposite of conservative you republican have nothing in common except the name republican. The last progresive republican was theodore roosevelt
Luis568369 5 months ago
@Luis568369
what you fail to realize is that "progressive" is an objective term when talking about anything, so being "progressive" in the 1800s could actually be quite different from being "progressive" today.
What you also fail to realize is that those called "progressive" throughout history were still radically right wing when it comes to comparing them to today's "progressives" or even the Conservatives of today.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Of course over all the world has moved to the left since 200 years ago and no over all fascism falls in the right wing of the political spectrum but the republican party of today is nothing like the republicans that founded the party 200 years ago
Luis568369 4 months ago
@ptbwf yes the world is more libreal then it was 200 years ago and fasism is considered a right wing political theory but when the republicans compare themselves to the old GOP that was extreamly libreal for their time its pisses me off since they would have had nothing in commen
Luis568369 4 months ago
@Luis568369
you do realize that what you said makes no sense, right?
Every national politician born before the 60s would be Republicans today, there is no question.
Fascism would also be left wing in a earlier America, considering that almost every public institution that has to exist for fascism to actually thrive didn't exist in a earlier America, America was almost completely private at one time, no other developed country can make that claim.
ptbwf 4 months ago
@ptbwf Im sure their were libreal before the 60s that voted for what was considered at the time the extremly libreal civil rights act that was based by a democratic controlled congress and your going to tell me that 70 to 90% of republicans voted for it will only 60% od democrated did but that was before the dixycrates left the party and joined the republicans in the southern stratagy
Luis568369 4 months ago
@ptbwf Yes i know that Abrham Lincoln would be considered a rasict by todays standerds and so would most abolotionist of the time
Luis568369 4 months ago
@Luis568369
It is good to know that you realize you are against everything Lincoln stood for, as well as the actual activists, who were more to the left of Lincoln.
So what is the point of the left today then if the right of today is further to the left than the left of the past?
You do realize that all the left is doing today is destroying personal freedom and pushing us closer to complete communist control, right?
ptbwf 4 months ago
li@ptbwf What the fuck are you talking about you canot compare political ideologys that are 200 years apart and yes fascism is right wing acording yo my political theory text but no wait my book is really a secret libreal plan to make all young people gay makes total sence just like the left wants to make the world communist
Luis568369 4 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Never heard of the southern strategy haveyou the plans republicans used to get southern voters that left the DEMOCRATIC party after the DEMOCRATIC PARTY CONTROLLED CONGRESS PASSED THE CIVIL RIGHTS ACT causing vast amounts of southerners to leave the part and republicans got with lost of their African American voting block that goined the democrates
Luis568369 5 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 nazis were facists...
healnrep 4 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Because they were also fascist. The Nazis controlled all the corporations and used the media as its propaganda tool. Nazism was a combination of socialism and fascism...so you can't really just give one side the credit for it. You shouldn't worry so much about libs vs repubs...if you really want to understand the world, go check out "anti-statism". Any enlightened person is anti-statist.
munkyusm 4 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 History doesn't matter to them.
ArodWingfoot 4 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117: they drones and dont get it
chasayyadeadhomie 3 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 because when liberals run out of tedious cliches they only have name calling to resort to
666plb 3 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117 Don't forget about Gun Control and Eugentics..
JJJohnson32 3 months ago
@ThatHaloGuy117
Nazis weren't really socialists. Kick someone out from a job and get someone you like to replace him isn't really an act to make equality between societies~
Nationalism and Socialism doesn't works well together.
1Stalker1 3 months ago
..I dont remember seeing ANY of that in Mexico the last time I went. Especially Skelator. We all know that Skelator comes from Canada. Which explains his strange high voice and constant failure.
GermanConquistador08 6 months ago
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CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
No I believe it's to live a life founded in the reality of the "actual". To succeed and strive for yourself, your family, and those dear to you. To live a life of creation, that serves your fellow man in reality, and builds a REAL legacy. Whimsical drug induced imaginings serve me no purpose.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
Let me be clear Liberal pig. I don't care if you and a thousand Liberals like you kill yourself with drugs. But if any liberal loser tried to teach a kid of mine that it is ok to use such rot. I would slit their throat and watch them bleed out on the floor. GET ME!!! Now Please go do all the drugs you wish, you have my blessing to go wild. :)
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
"I would slit their throat" ha, someone's a bit violent and angry at the world. I think you're making the mistaken assumption that occasional use of psychedelics will completely incapacitate an individual and render them unable to perform like the good corporate-owned robot you envision them to be. You would have to really go overboard with a non-addictive substance such as shrooms or LSD, in order for that to happen. There is virtually no strain on the health system from these.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
What is also funny is that by calling me a "Liberal Pig", you demonstrate that you see the world as "Liberal vs. Conservative", which is such a black and white us & them oversimplification. Black and White concepts only exist because simple-minded people exist. Reality is actually never black and white, it's almost always an ambiguous shade of grey. There aren't as many absolutes as you think.
Again, moderate use of drugs such as shrooms and LSD doesn't "kill you" at all.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@mcpencil Black and White Eh? Well it is the liberal model of supporting ethnic paternalistic community's that keeps the "Black/white" notion alive in minorities. If "black" was veiwed for the scapegoat for slavery that it was, then maybe more blacks wouldn't talk so paternally, or speak of a notion of reparations. Africans were slaves in Africa before the white men came to buy them. Being white skinned doesn't make you guilty of anything.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
Who said anything about race? I wasn't referring to race when I said Black vs White. I meant that there are no absolutes and everything is ambiguous.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@mcpencil Liberal/Conservative notions directly conflict in a Black or White way, even on race issues. That was my point. I was also pointing out the Liberal upholding of a notion differance on racial issues with conservatives that preserves that Black or White divide, both literally and figuratively on Black/White notions as well as between Black/White people.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
Reality is NOT black and white. It is grey. Most normal people don't have a purely "liberal" or a purely "conservative" view on issues. These are just labels we use for convenience and laziness. Anyway, im off for a while. Peace.
mcpencil 6 months ago
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LOL A person who champions drug useage and has no God saying reality is relative and Grey, well wonders never cease. LOL Well in the case of my post on race. The notion of "black" was indeed just a SCAPEGOAT for racism, that is a fact, and is not relative. It a Black and White, right/wrong fact. It was just like when the nazis called Jews vermin in order to kill them. Only the godless who use drugs to warp the world they see further think their is no real clear Right or Wrong in the world.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@mcpencil btw....If Liberals were true to the Black/White fact that "Black" skin was used only as a scapegoat for racism, then they wouldn't push the paternalism they do now. That isn't relative....It is Wrong!!! It also doesn't help integration or equality. Only a moral relativist with no morals could think otherwise. If we actually lived to your example of liberal moral "relativity", I wonder what horrors like slavery would have gone unrighted.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
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CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
Klavan.... do you realise that the organised crime which stems from 'drugs' is not the fault of Latino culture, but the fault of the "War on Drugs" which unnecessarily takes away our freedoms and makes personal choice a crime. Half the drugs that are illegal are no worse for you than coffee when used in moderation (ie. marijuana, lsd, mushrooms, mescaline, dmt). The illegal status of drugs creates criminals, and jailing them actually makes them harder criminals.
mcpencil 6 months ago
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CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
Erm... addiction to shrooms??? Psychedelics aren't addictive, physically or mentally. If you CHOOSE to abuse psychedelics by taking too much too often, that's your problem and you deserve to face the consequences. Notice how I said "In moderation"?
No one is forcing anyone to take drugs. It's called personal responsibility. If everyone took LSD now and then, it would create a far better society. All prohibition achieves is creating a whole new class of criminals.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@mcpencil The issue is your arguement that these drug "freedoms" would serve any benefit to society. Many Liberitarians and others think we should be free to do any drug we want,and damb the consequences, because they will be personal. That is not the truth though, and we already deal with the social problems of the legal drug Alcohol. This "moderation" defence for things that warp reality, does not help your arguement.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
You act like there is a problem with experiencing an altered state of consciousness. Sure, it can be frightening for those not knowing what to expect, or if it dredges up emotional shit that you have to deal with anyway. But for the most part, the reason people do psychedelics is because they add to their lives. It seems to me like you think our value to society is only as corporate robots.
Note that I am not defending legitimately dangerous drugs such as Meth, Heroin, Cocaine.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@mcpencil No I believe it's to live a life founded in the reality of the "actual". To succeed and strive for yourself, your family, and those dear to you. To live a life of creation, that serves your fellow man in reality, and builds a REAL legacy. Whimsical drug induced imaginings serve me no purpose.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@mcpencil You speak of freedom to do what you like. Yet our society is now full of Liberal self actualizing losers, who need others to take care of their shit for them and pay for it. sigh :( Why couldn't I have been born in the days of the original Homesteaders of the west. Own your own land, build your own home, raise a strong family, sweat blood and tears for your own prosperity, and have the right to keep it. That is the worthy life that is being lost by those that think like you.
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
You didn't really respond to or acknowledge any of the things I said, but that's ok. Your 'homesteaders' fantasy is quite romantic :) It also has absolutely nothing to do with what I was saying: "Drugs Are Bad, mmkay" = propaganda. The war on drugs just CREATES criminals out of thin air, and fills up the prison system... basically, your taxes are going into making people into harder criminals. The way I see it, drug dealers are entrepreneurs who are filling a market demand.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@mcpencil It's people much similar to you who waste their time worrying what drug or "some other nothing" that they can't do, that need everyone living in reality who actually does something, to take care of them. When man came into being for the first time. He didn't say "lets do drugs". He had to much shit to do because life itself doesn't give you anything. Or did Adam say to God "Let me do drugs and have ObamaCare".
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
Ok, first of all, there was no Adam. Evolution is a proud product of the same scientific process that brought you the computer you are typing from right now. It's more well-supported than the theory of Gravity. You talk about "reality" and yet your worldview revolves around a fantastic delusion you picked up from an ancient text. Religion is a drug too, it brings existential comfort for the ignorant :)
Just because drugs serve you no purpose, does place you above anyone else.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@mcpencil Doesn't place me above eh? Well we see how useful all the drug freedom wanting liberals are, especially when they demand collectivist bull shit to take care of them, don't we? Where is that being personally responsable shit you talked so well about with the drug use, for the rest of life. Sounds a bit selective. :)
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
There should be more social freedoms in society. Homosexuals should be able to marry. What's wrong with abortions? the fetus has never been sentient - it's not a person. Same goes for Stem Cells. People should be free from having religious superstition taught to their kids while their heads are still soft. There's nothing wrong with certain drugs in moderation. Conservatives go on and on about being about 'small government' and personal freedoms, and yet they're so Puritan.
mcpencil 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
In every culture throughout history, humans have had ritualised taking of psychedelics to induce altered states of consciousness. Now, due to some presumably "Christian" moral hangup, always by the conservatives in society, these things are seen as entirely without merit, dangerous, immoral. "How DARE you desire to alter your God-given reality... by the way, you are a dirty sinner and totally unworthy by design, but God still loves you... now pay the church 10%..."
mcpencil 6 months ago
@CyberSpaceman81
Also, could you point me to a scientific study which says that LSD/peyote/mushrooms are addictive? No, I didn't think so. There is such a thing as personal freedoms and personal choice. A person choosing to use these substances responsibly (ie. you probably shouldnt drive.. only an true idiot would do that) does not infringe on anyone else's rights. What gives someone the right to legislate what I can and cannot put in my body? It's not even harmful at all in moderation.
mcpencil 6 months ago
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@mcpencil Sure idiot....No worse than Coffee. That is why in a US intercity community the a presence of drugs has made things so great for them right? LOL I am sure an addiction to Shrooms would lead to a much more productive society, than going for a daily cup of coffee. Yeah right!!! The effects of these drugs and their addictiveness is nothing we want here the US. Loser!!!
CyberSpaceman81 6 months ago
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nural666 6 months ago
I think this quote from the company website says it all: "PAJAMAS, FOR ITSELF AND EACH OF ITS LICENSORS, MAKES NO REPRESENTATIONS, WARRANTIES, OR GUARANTEES AS TO THE QUALITY, SUITABILITY, TRUTH, ACCURACY OR COMPLETENESS OF ANY INFORMATION OR MATERIAL CONTAINED ON THE SITE, INCLUDING WITHOUT LIMITATION PAJAMAS CONTECT AND ANY THIRD PARTY CONTENT."
So no claims as to quality, truth, or accuracy of their reporting? Sounds like a hack news source.
RARA1616 6 months ago
@thecoolestgrey You have no clue what you are talking about do you? States enforcing federal laws is wrong? What about federal drug laws? States have been enforcing those for decades. Immigration is not "foreign policy" it is domestic policy. It is up to countries to decide the amount and origin of immigrants on their own, not by inter-country treaties. You definately havent read the Arizona law, it states specifically that ethnicity cannot be used. I would suggest you educate yourself.
BeukendaalMason 6 months ago
Imagine there is no imagine!
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