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  • Has anyone heard from Obama's brother though?

  • I've seen several examples of bias in the news. It is easy to miss if you agree with the expressed opinion.

  • Wait... FOX NEWS is talking about the BIAS of another news station?

    I'm.. not surprised.

    Hehe.

  • @wc1hater

    You are saying that the others are not? Really? Is this Obama's brother?

  • @Rgblad "Is this Obama's brother?" That just cracked me up for some reason. I just imagined a ten year old kid saying that. Sorry, sorry. By the way, no.

    And to your first question, this:

    Not as much. But that's not the point: it's just the fact that Fox News is pretty much accepted among the Internetz as THE best source of news with absolutely NO bias x(-1).

    (x(-1) is supposed to denote irony or sarcasm, by the way)

    To your second:

    Yes. Definitely.

  • This is like Jehovah Witnesses criticizing the Mormons for acting like a cult and heretics.

  • @Sevenfold120,

    Claiming all politics is the same is asinine.

  • @mulhollanddose All politics? No, the political parties... a little bit. We have the Republicans and the Democrats... thats it. Our Congress sucks... we should have a Parliament. 

  • Fox News is as everybit as much propaganda as the rest of them if not more so, for anyone to think otherwise you are a brainwashed sheep

  • abort christ

  • If all of these comments are from American citizens... Then this country is even more screwed than i could have ever imagined. All you guys are doing is pointing fingers and cursing at each other. Forget the democrat/republican debate and think of the country. The founders knew what it was like to live under tyranny, that's why they produced a Constitution, that's why they stated how important limited government is. Big government is oppressive period, whether Republican or Democrat controlled.

  • @xelfer9,

    This debate is an extension of the debates of the Founding Fathers. The fight for what made America great continues, and the forces that want to destroy what made us great continues. The fight is between those that believe in preserving the brilliant ideas of the Founding Fathers [Republicans], and those that want to tear it down [Democrats].

  • The democrats don't want to admit it but we all know that most of the mainstream media is biased toward the democrats

  • As much as I hate any form of bias in the media, liberal bias is much more bearable than conservative bias. To be honest, I've never understood the political spectrum. I'm pro-choice, pro-capitalism, pro-traditions and atheist; I have no idea where that puts me. I think I just have common sense. In the UK, I would be to the "right of centre", in the US, it seems that "right of centre" is quite extreme and Republicans appear completely blinded by their patriotism and crazy Christian faith.

  • @RobinScott93 the problem is that what the founders believed in is considered far-right today. liberals/progressives(in both parties) have done a great job injecting anti-founder laws, policies, and ideas. There are people on both sides that take it too far. I do not agree with neo-cons on the right who believe in nation building, occupying countries (japan, korea, Germany) and limiting our civil liberties. But with those faults they are closer to the founders than most Liberals.

  • @RobinScott93 Where do you get your news from?

  • @bmyze316 You'll accuse me of being a leftist, but I go with BBC News. I find their supposed leftist stance difficult to spot, and I enjoy the minimal commentary; it's almost all news coverage and professional, detailed reports. Presenters also question interviewees toughly, regardless their stance, and the reporting is far less biased than any other TV news broadcaster I've come across. However, for newspapers, I generally stick to the centre-right - The Times, Daily Telegraph (UK newspapers).

  • @RobinScott93 funny how i'm a Christian and i don't call you a crazy Atheist. just funny how that works... in my experience Godlessness leads to liberalism. i know very few if any Christians that are liberals, they're all conservative. i can't stand to watch ABC, NBC, MSNBC, and CNN, they all report the exact same thing. leave out important issues such as voter intimidation with the black panthers, etc.

  • @xelfer9 I will apologise for that statement about Christianity; I was angry at the time and my outburst happened to be in the form of a YouTube comment. However, it must be sad world we live in where people believe we need a God for their morals. Since the Bible was written, people have cherry-picked the bits they like and ignored the out-dated moral lessons showing that humans have their own sense of right and wrong. We do need a God to live a good life.

  • @xelfer9 Another problem with Christinanity is that its followers don't ever look past the religion. As long as there is Christianity there will be people who believe homosexuals are all sinners, abortion is wrong etc. These sorts of opinions should not come from a book. Christianity doesn't allow people to think rationally. Of course many of the greatest people in history were Christians, but we do not need Christianity to be great.  Christianity is incredibly restrictive.

  • @RobinScott93

    no it isnt stop lying. Liberal bias has tried to start race wars what has consevative bias done? expose liberal bias

  • @4everUSNavy They are both as bad as each other, to be honest.

  • FUCK FOX NEWS

  • @dowshipwigga,

    Fuck fox news? Heaven forbid there be any diversity of thought in the media.

  • @mulhollanddose

    look up outfoxed n watch it. go to moxnews. Fauxnews. N then gimme shit

  • @dowshipwigga,

    Ya, I am sure those liberal anti-free-speech websites are accurate. Typical liberal fascist propaganda.

  • @dowshipwigga you mean your left wing propaganda smear film?

  • If the USA were run by 100% liberals... we would be speaking Islam and Spanish, worshipping Allah, and beating the hell out of our women !!! Yep... Liberals know everything !!! LOL

  • A conservative exposing a liberal bias to an other conservative, i love generalizations.

  • Mulhollanddose is seriously a fucking brain dead zealot. Read a fucking book, dickhead. this piece is almost tongue in cheek than anything. Do you believe the shit coming out of fox? you can't possibly think you're straight.

  • @huckleberry12 mulhollanddose seems well informed and articulate to me.i dont know how u arrived at the conclusion that he/she doesnt read books?as far as im concerned the "shit" coming out of fox is more credible than the stuff coming from the other channels.msnbc has positioned themselves as a magnet cable tv station for angry leftists who suffer from bush derangement syndrome.if cnn is smart they wont follow in msnbc's path.

  • @reirrac01 then you're a fucking moron if this jackass seems well informed and articulate. You should read a fucking book too. If you republicants think that it's ok to get news from one source, and that liberals do just that, you're even more retarded than I thought. I don't rely on msnbc, cnn, or abc for my news but all of them. Public Broadcast, BBC, and RT as well. That's why you republicants fail, because you think news is a commodity.

  • @huckleberry12 damn dude relax!i never claimed its ok to get news from one source and im not sure what u mean by us thinking of news as a commodity?i think that the vast majority of the mass media is comprised of democrats.when one gets info from the mass media one has to take into account that they're listening to or reading what a democrat said/wrote.liberals dominate the media.

  • @reirrac01 which is why u need more than one news source, it's not a hard concept. I know you don't know what I mean when I say you think of news as a commodity.

  • @huckleberry12 your position is that the mass media isnt liberally dominated right?because it sounds like your agreeing with me when u say "which is why u need more than one news source".since we've established that i dont know what you mean by the "commodity" assertion,perhaps u could explain it to me.that is if u know what the hell your talking about and are not mere'ly regurgitating rhetorical nonsense to try to shut me up.

  • Libturbs are incapable of telling the truth.

  • Fox, CNN, and MSNBC are equally bias and full of shit.

  • Halperin actually said 'ITS NOT FAIR '???....i have a newsflash for him....life aint fair.

    every person in the media has an agenda/bias,.unbiased press coverage is BORING....thats why FOX & MSNBC take a position.....if u want unbiased media coverage u should move to fantasyland, b/c it will never happen..nothing is lamer than democrats whining about FOX..or republicans crying about the 'liberal media'.

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  • Fascist governments permanently forbid and suppress all criticism. Sounds like the Obama Administration is all about censorship. Fascism protects and enhances the power of "weak" people rather than promoting "strong" people. Anti conservative nationalism, and Collectivism is Obama's M.O. Left-Wing' Fascism. A Legal Basis of the Total State is what is at hand by the Democrats in the US, trying to create a totalitarian society. The dems should rename themselves fascist social party.

  • Its Not About Left or Right Its About Right and Wrong. p.s. i pose naked in front of my mirror every night

  • and on larry king..i notice that he always asks the hard questions to the conservatives and goes easy on the liberals....i've noticed him teaming up on them too

    "the most balanced network was fox" Ed rendell-fmr governor of pennsylvania

  • larry king is a very fair, and bi-partisan host, just like brokaw is and the way russert was. ive seen LK press both conservatives and liberals very fairly. it depends when you watch them... its not always going to be the same, and it has to change. hell... LK has brought on 3 conservatives at one time and interviewed them all and let them spew whatever they want. ed rendell is a nut... he just said that cuz he supported hilary, and fnc was kissing her ass after years of bashing the clintons.

  • Larry King is a liberal and runs his show to favor liberalism and slap at conservatives. Tim Russet was a liberal Democrat hack and that is why he got the job at uber-liberal NBC. Russet was a liar and a propagandist.

    Fox defines objectivity and the only reason you fascist scum hate them so much is they dare give conservatives a fair voice...They are the only news outlet that gives conservatives a fair shake.

  • lmao... its people like you that love to use the world "liberal" so loosely to describe just about ANYBODY that doenst agree with some far right conservative. its ridiculous. russert was not conservative obviously, maybe slightly liberal, but no liberal bomb thrower, and many people can back that up. show me an example of russert being a liar, please.

    fox defines objectivity? please... the only thing fox defines is republican propaganda and allowing all the conservative yell over liberals.

  • doesnt*

  • You clearly don't watch Fox News. I am sure you listen to Keith Olberman (a real propagandist who has absolutely no balance or true debate) for your impression of Fox. The only time liberals get talked over on Fox is when they are clearly pitching their lies.

    Russert lied when he was spreading the DNC talking points that Valerie Plame was outed by Scooter Libby. Everyone in D.C. knew Joe Wilson and his wife and the real leaker was a Bush opponent (Richard Armitage). I could go on and on.

  • dont tell me what i watch and dont watch. when i make my judgments about fnc, you know where i get them from? i get them from watching fnc. big surprise! as far as olbermann goes, i watch him for entertainment purposes and his opinion, and whatever point he makes, i check up on it to make sure its legitimate. hes not my lone source. obviously you dont know me and what im about, and im not a conservative hater, and i have many conservative ideologies as well. i think youre just a liberal hater.

  • and its too bad that there are people like you (if thats what you are), because the liberals havent destroyed this country like the republicans have, but many of us liberals still accept them, while liberal haters on youtube want to actually banish and get rid of liberals... pratically kill them, which is just pathetic and you seem to be on that bandwagon. so i feel bad for you. see you name every person that doesnt agree with you or fox news a liberal... wow, you have got some problems.

  • as far as russert and lies he made, shit happens. journalists make mistakes. i can point out dozens of lies just coming from brit hume and other fox news anchors and "journalists". people like russert didnt lie because they had a reputation and well respected journalists and everyone knew that about them. you cant even point out that many lies olbermann has made, so you should get on that while you still have time. you are the typical bill oreilly clone... just like to dig up dirt on liberals.

  • no i dont get my "impression of hannity limbaugh and beck from liberals. i dont even know that many liberals that talk about them. i know about them from listening to what they say from their own mouths. its not that hard to do research on someone and find out the garbage that they spew and those jerkoffs put their foots in their mouths time and time again. and what a coincidence that these are all that idiots that get millions of viewers and listeners a day for spewing their bullshit. hmmm...

  • lol you want some crazyness from hannity... how about when he claims guys like him and limbaugh never talked about race regarding obama, when they clearly did. how about when he says nobody at fox news claimed obama was muslim, even though him and the fox and friends gang constantly claimed he was raised in a madrassa and not born in the us. oh how about when limbaugh claimed mccain and powell werent republicans? want anymore examples there sparky? ive got a laundry list of them.

  • ok even if your claim is true, who cares how much buchanan and scarborough are hated? the only reason they may be is because they actually speak out against some of the republicans that ruined this country. even william kristol and newt gingrich have done the same thing against their fellow conservatives, criticizing theyre party and calling them out. have you been living in a hole for the past year to not notice all of this? im sorry, but you need better excuses to back up your bullshit.

  • I find it interesting that you liberal swine bleat on about how "Bush ruined the country", yet we haven't been attacked since Bush fixed the foreign policy failures of Clinton. I also find it interesting that you liberal swine see no correlation between Democrat persistent sabotage of everything Bush has attempted and the failures that that sabotage has created...I think it just a little bit malevolently sadistic to stab Bush in the back for 8 years and then blame him for his incapacity to rule.

  • Obama used his race as a tool, not Hannity or Limbaugh. You don't even know what a madrassa is you idiot. They NEVER claimed he was a Muslim, but it is more than clear that Obama's claim to being a "Christian" is simply a political device to fool the idiots who are a majority in America. Liberals hate real Christians, but they love fake ones...Hate to break it to you, but based on Muslim law, Obama is a Muslim...It is no wonder Muslims danced in the streets at his election, he must be a real POS

  • are you kidding me? obama used his race as a tool? what planet are you living on? he was black, and had a father from kenya, and all the conservatives used this as theyre "tool" to use against him, including wright, ayers, and rezko, which he no longer has associations with. haha... i dont know what a madrassa is? my family comes from iran where they do all that praying shit, dont tell me what i dont know. liberals hate christians? there are millions of liberals out there that are christian.

  • ohh mhmm... based on muslim law, obama is a muslim... how is that genius? do you actually have proof to back up this outrageous claim? obama was born in america... hawaii to be exact. last time i checked, not many people from hawaii practice muslim faith. i dont give a shit what muslims were doing when obama won... and even if that claim is true, how do you explain all the whites, blacks, asians and mexicans dancing and going crazy when he won? so does that mean they are muslim too? lol, please.

  • its idiots like you that use all this hate speech and ridiculous theories with no proof to make up your assumptions, with the help of hannity, limbaugh and other braindead conservatives. this is where you get all this propaganda... including the morons that were at mccain/palin rallies. all fucking idiots. hey buddy, we were attacked under bushs watch! why do you conservatives continue to ignore that and just use what happened post-9/11?? lol our foreign policy was ruined when bush came in.

  • we liberals didnt try to sabatoge anything bush did... bush sabatoged it himself when he tried to think he could run 2 wars at the same time and actually try and keep this country safe... not to mention lying to all the americans and making up lies about why we invaded iraq. im not going to get into a debate about this though, because it will never end and you will continue to kiss bushs ass like fox news does. the argument is the media and how conservative and unfair fox news is. thats it.

  • Everything. You liberals have undermined EVERYTHING Bush has attempted. It is nothing short of miraculous that we are winning in Iraq. The Democrats and the media have waged a non-stop political war against Bush..Even gas prices and the economy falling into recession are a byproduct of Democrats. Democrats and their enviro-fascist buddies destabilized the fuel markets by preventing domestic exploration, they destabilized the food market by subsidizing ethanol...Dems created the mortagage crisis.

  • are you kidding me? iraq was a sham ever since we invaded. we got involved in a war that the sunis and shites had to deal with themselves and didnt need out help in. bush ruined it himself and thought we could do iraq and afghanistan at the same time while its obvious we couldnt. dont you even dare blame the mess we are in all on the democrats. you are watching way too much fox news. we wouldnt be in this mess if bush and the republicans didnt put us into the 9 trillion dollar debt we are in.

  • Hate to break it to you, but the operation in Iraq has been successful. I realize entirely that fools like yourself are so sold out to the narrative that we lost, but it just isn't so...Bush would have been a lot more successful, a lot sooner, had he not had the Democrats and media stabbing him in the back at every turn...Even with the incessant sabotage, Bush has been a far better wartime President than Truman, FDR or Kennedy...How many died under their watch again?...Somewhere around 600,000?

  • oh it has been successful, huh? right... after losing all those troops and dropping bombs on baghdad, cheney claiming we will be treated as liberators. so i guess all that had to happen and 5 years later, we are successful? didnt bush claim we were mission accomplished sometime in 2003? so why did we stay there? just for kicks? stop blaming the democrats... the democrats didnt do anything to ruin bushs chances at invading iraq. if anything, they helped him invade because they voted for the war.

  • Gstateballguzzler: "didnt bush claim we were mission accomplished sometime in 2003?"

    Is that what Keith Olberman told you? You exemplify the truth of Goebbels statement, "a big lie told frequently will become understood as the truth."...Bush NEVER said the war was over when the "Mission Accomplished" banner flew over the boat who completed their mission...Do you get it?...Their "mission" was "accomplished."...Of course the asshats you listen to for your facts have manipulated your tiny mind.

  • no, that is not what keith olbermann told me, because i heard it from bushs mouth as he has restated it time and time again and changed his reasoning for claiming "mission accomplished"... ohh your telling me about lies? its the president/administration that you voted for that refined the core of what lies are as they did it for 8 years and continue to do it as they get their asses out of power. you can give me all your theories you want... uve been doing it too much as it is. im not hearing it.

  • as far as i know, bush never even cared what the media thought about him, or what his critics said about him. he did whatever he wanted and made decisions because he wanted to. stop blaming the democrats for everything... that is all you republicans have. just complaining and blaming everyone else for youre own mistakes. why dont you just fess up and take your mistakes like a man, instead of blaming liberals? unbelievable. why cant you just say, yes bush made mistakes. why is that so hard?

  • Gstate: "that is all you republicans have. just complaining and blaming everyone else for youre own mistakes"

    Riiiiiiiight...You mean like the scumbag politicians of New Orleans, the DEMOCRATS, blaming Bush for their failures?...You mean like the Democrats blaming Bush for 9/11, when Clinton let Osama get away on multiple occasions? I suppose that is what Sandy Berger was destroying when he criminally destroyed documents before the 9/11 investigation...Blame Rove and Bush...so fashionable.

  • lmao... the scumbag politicians of new orleans? i guess that shows why bush didnt help louisiana in the midst of katrina when he should have. first of all, dont tell me about all the corruptions of democrats... politics is full of corruption, yet the interesting thing is that you ignore the corruption from the republicans and the pardoning of scooter libby and all the republicans that voted for this war and helped bush sell his whole fake reasoning to invade iraq and fuck this country up.

  • Lousiana and New Orleans, besides riveling Chicago for most corrupt Democrat slums in America, failed catastrophically during Katrina...Naturally the media and their Democrat pimps blamed Bush...You scum blamed Bush after you turned a small problem into a total clusterfuck...Of course some blame goes to the constituents of New Orleans who refused to trust the scumbag Democrats when they warned them to leave.

  • there you go again... blaming democrats for everything without anything to back it up. i would even go as far as claiming that you are clinically insane. you cant say one thing that the republicans have done wrong even though they have done it all ever since they were in office. its all relative and very well known how badly the republicans ruined america with their greed, corruption, and power hungry attitudes. all they want to do is wage wars and try and look tough. its pitiful.

  • Gstate: "its all relative and very well known how badly the republicans ruined america with their greed, corruption, and power hungry attitudes"

    Sandy Berger, William Jefferson, Robert Torricelli, Elliot Spitzer, Blogojevich and the Democrats boy Maddof ring a bell?

  • lmao... i love how you completely ignore ted stevens who failed to report gifts received from veco corporation and its ceo bill allen. did you forget about that? you want some more, sweetheart? how about bill frist who took $23k from the tobacco industry? and fred thompson who was charged in 1983 with violating his probation and with multiple counts of felony bookmaking, cocaine trafficking and conspiracy. how about vito fosella charged with drunken driving charges in 2008? hmmmm... not enough?

  • i got some more for you right here, pal. larry craig trying to touch other men in bathroom stalls? how about mark foley trying to have dirty cyber chats with teenaged BOYS? wow... what a bunch of flamers. oh dont worry, i have more. when mitch mconnell pushed $25 million in earmarked federal funds for a British defense contractor? forget that one? and lets not ignore what richard nixon did with watergate. did you want anymore examples of republican scandals or is that enough for you to chew on?

  • Nixon did far less than Clinton did in obstructing justice...Clinton sold pardons to corporate crooks and sold military secrets to the Chinese Communists...William Jefferson was taking bribes as New Orleans was suffering after Katrina...Blogojovich was selling Obama's senate seat...Obama's put a tax cheat in charge of the IRS...Bill Richardson had to step down because of scandal....Sandy Berger was stealing top-secret documents to conceal Clinton crimes.

    Yours are bullshit, mine are real.

  • by the way, you need to stop putting 9/11 on clinton okay? that is a sickening and cowardice attempt at backing up your scumbag president that you helped keep in office for 8 years. you should be ashamed of yourself and your decision to elect george bush as president. he ruined this country, he had time to prevent 9/11, he had his attempts at fighting terror and capturing osama himself, and he ignored it. and he is still ignoring it and he uses that fear to scare americans. typical republicans.

  • Classic liberal bullshit regurgitator. 9/11 was planned during Clinton's Administration. Clinton had multiple opportunities to kill or capture Bin Laden and failed due to political cowardice. Clinton thought we needed to handle terrorism by passing the buck to Bush, and then we got 9/11...How did the Clinton Administration respond? Clinton had his National Security Adviser steal and destroy incriminating evidence before being called to testify before the 9/11 Commission.

  • 9/11 was planned?? so now your a conspiracy theorist? so god for bid anyone claims that bush planned 9/11, but now your claimiing clinton planned it? oh what sweet irony. clinton didnt capture bin laden for the same reasons bush didnt... because he couldnt. clinton tried and he failed... bush didnt try period. and now your even claiming that clinton destroyed "incriminating" evidence... you make all these claims without a shred of evidence to back it up too. at least show me some links please.

  • Gstate: "clinton tried and he failed"

    I never said Clinton planned 9/11, unlike the fruitcake POS on your ideological side who a lot of your comrades believe...As far as culpability in 9/11, Clinton's foreign policy left Osama alive...(watch?v=CTtoHx-ia8A).­..Not only did Clinton allow Osama to get away, but he also turned down the Sudan's offer of Osama on a platter...To make things worse Bill Clinton had his boy IN CHARGE OF NATIONAL SECURITY, steal and destroy top secret documents??...FUKU

  • did you actually link me to a fox news interview? yeah... no thanks. also, this guy is giving an opinion from HIS pov. he doesnt speak for the entire CIA. there is no proof that clinton didnt try to capture bin laden. he tried to kill him, and he failed. once again, you are making these claims without strong evidence to support it. if you want to give me a link to an article of some sort, go ahead, but dont give me fox news interviews. thats like me giving you an olbermann interview as proof.

  • Gstate: "and now your even claiming that clinton destroyed "incriminating" evidence"

    Just because you are an ignorant fool doesn't mean it didn't happen. It simply means that you are a brainwashed liberal tool:

    "Samuel R. "Sandy" Berger could have stolen original, uncatalogued, highly classified terrorism documents 14 months earlier by wrapping them around his socks and beneath his pants, as National Archives staff member John Laster reported witnessing." -- Washington Post

    Idiot.

  • im the ignorant fool? you cant even give me a LINK to prove your claims. give me a link you idiot. stop copying and pasting your bullshit. once you do that, i will take you seriously and then i can have a discussion with you without having to read cut and paste excerpts. and what someone "witnesses" is not proof, moron. many people have "witnessed" things and they are never taken seriously. stop with all of youre circumstantial evidence. that doesnt do anyone any good.

  • Ruined the country? Seems we were doing fine until the Democrats took control in 2006. After 8 years of Democrat sabotage of everything Bush has done, I don't know how even a liar could place the blame on Bush for perceived failures. Wouldn't it be logical that undermining Bush has some factor in creating "failures"? In 2006 the Democrats have fooled stupid people to put them in power, the economy has dumped and the corruption has gotten worse and you have elected an incompetent con-man.

  • ohh we were doing fine for the first 6 years huh? are you really that stupid? 9/11 happened, then we invaded iraq in 2003 while still being in afghanistan (which should have been our main goal), we continued to fall more and more into debt, the violence in iraq escalated, and our relationships with the middle east was in turmoil. ill admit the democrats didnt help, but dont actually tryand claim that 2 years of democrats in the congress and senate actually ruined this country. that is a joke.

  • Not only was 9/11 planned during the Clinton Administration, but Clinton left the country in recession, and Clinton left the collapse of such notable Clinton buddies as Enron and Global Crossing...When Enron was collapsing and Bush told them "tough shit", guess who was making calls to Bush to bail them out? His name was Robert Rubin (Clinton Treas Sec) who got a fat cushy paycheck from his new job working for Enron's finanier...coincidence?...Your politicians have brought corruption to new lows.

  • so who are you saying planned? give me a name or a source that proves that please. clinton left us in a recession? hey idiot... clinton left us in a huge surplus and bush fucked it all up when he decided to invade iraq and try to get paid by his precious oil companies. corruption is embedded in the foreheads of republicans and they know it but they hide it so well, as i will go into further detail later. once again, show me proof of rubin calling bush to bail out enron. give me something, moron.

  • Gstate: "but dont actually tryand claim that 2 years of democrats in the congress and senate actually ruined this country"

    Seems that the Democrats, who promised they would "fix" everything in 2006, only made matters worse. Have you ever asked yourself why the liberal whores you listen to for your information have had no interest in hearings with the head-honchos at Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac? Do you know why? The Democrats made FRMA and FNMC and the Democrats had fat jobs working for them.

  • the democrats never said they would "fix" everything in 2006... they said they would try and change things and keep from this war going the way it is and turn the country around... and since 2006, the violence in iraq has dropped drastically. maybe not exactly at that point, but it was definitely during that time that the war started to turn around and we actually got somewhere with liberating the country. before that, the violence was terrible and we were going nowhere. be thankful.

  • Do you remember Obama saying "Iraq is an unwinnable war and we should withdrawl as quickly and safly as possible" ?

  • The media didn't find that news worthy because the news media doesn't find anything that makes Obama look bad as news worthy.

  • i dont "remember" it, but im not surprised that/if he said it. as far as whether the media reported it, they may have. mulhollanddose is crazy and just rants about his hatred for liberals in the media when a big chunk of it is also conservative as well. there are a lot of things the "liberal media" doesnt report that they should have about bush.

  • "A big chunk of the media is conservative"?

    Liberal: seeBS, NBC, ABC (network news), CNN, AP, NPR, PBS, MTV, BET, VH1, the major news papers, all the news magazines, Hollywood, the music industry.

    Conservative: Fox cable. AM radio, a few small periodicals.

    Please stop arguing points that are clearly untrue. I don't understand why you leftists insist the media is not liberal, you should be proud of it, it allows you to manipulate stupid people.

  • "Conservative: Fox cable. AM radio, a few small periodicals."

    do you know how many millions of viewers/households fox news and conservative programming (radio and television) reach every day? much more than any "liberal media" outlet does. why dont you stop ignoring that at actually try and tell the truth? as fox news brags about its high viewership, they also complain about the other parts of media being liberal even though those other channels dont get watched as much as fnc and the right.

  • which is a great point! that is awesome that conservative media gets the most viewers! whoohoo!

  • yeah... its pretty easy to get viewers when you spew far right talking points and yelling and screaming over everyone that you disagree with. what a concept.

  • Yelling and screaming suggests debate. Something far and few between on the rest of the media. I am watching Fox right now and there are 2 liberals and 2 conservatives, and nobody is yelling...On Fox the conservatives scream at each-other. Very refreshing...Watching Ann Coulter smack-down O'Reilly is quite gratifying.

  • yelling and screaming doesnt suggest debate... when 2 presidential candidates are having a debate on stage, are they yelling? very rarely, if ever. it is kept civil and cordial. but on fox news, everyone is yelling over one another calling each other names, and it just gets out of control. just watch oreilly's show for that... he is involved in the discourse as well. i dont know what show youre watching, but yea sometimes it will be a fair matchup, but its usually outnumbered with conservatives.

  • No, they are typically not yelling. They are just standing their pretending to be friendly and reciting pre-conceived focus tested lies...I am sure that appeals to you.

  • and i have NEVER seen the conservatives yell at eachother on fox news. that is absolutely false... they agree 99% of the time and gang up on the one liberal. and ann coulter has never smacked down oreilly either... they agree on way too many subjects, including their hatred for liberals.

  • Conservatives yelling at each other on Fox is false? You clearly get any clips you see of Fox after it has been edited on NBC.

    I think you are confusing Fox and CNN, or any liberal news shows (they are all liberals, every one of them)...Fox is the only one that gives Conservatives an equal voice. The rest shout down or talk over, or gang-bang, the token conservative.

  • no... i watch fox news too, probably more than you claim you watch nbc/msnbc.

    no, im not confusing fox news with anyone else... its not hard to differentiate a far right "news" network with all of the professional ones that can actually report the news accurately while fox news distorts, and claims you can decide. how can we decide when you report it so fucking terribly? that "fair and balanced" slogan is pathetic. they dont give voices to both sides because conservatives are on and in control.

  • by the way, look at the primetime and morning show schedule for fox news... full of conservatives, not one liberal host has his/her own show. and if there are liberal hosts, they are on the weekends, with the only possible example being that crazy nut geraldo. now, compared to cnn, who has people like dobbs, cooper who doesnt state his opinion, and larry king who always has conservatives on. and msnbc has matthews who kisses conservative ass, and morning joe in the mornings with joe scarborough.

  • Fox balances their political panels. The rest of the media does not. A Democrat media panel is typically a liberal "journalist" interviewing 4 other liberals. Occasionally they will bring on a weak Republican who typically is a left-wing Republican. The rare conservative gets talked over by the other 3 liberals on the Democrat news networks like CNN, ABC, CBS or NBC.

  • that is completely untrue. if you look at a typical "hannity" great american panel, it consists of hannity, and 2 other conservatives, and 1 liberal... how is that fair? a typical oreilly factor panel consists of oreilly and another conservative with 1 liberal. how is that balanced? by the way, neither hannity or oreilly know how to moderate a debate... they get fully involved in it. and fox news does the same thing you claim the other networks do... bring on weak liberals...

  • but the conservatives on the other networks are very strong. that is just how it is. if you dont believe me, watch for yourself or i will even prove it to you. the videos are on the internet. and the hosts/anchors on the other networks dont get involved in the debates like fox news hosts/anchors do. once again, the proof is all in the videos that you can see or just watch the shows. i HIGHLY doubt you watch those other networks because you dont tell the truth about their debates with guests.

  • All the major news networks prime time news is produced, edited and hosted by liberals. They typically have a 1:4 ratio of conservative to liberals. The host is always a liberal and the questions and format is orchestrated by liberals.

    Fox News' only remotely conservative outlet is their cable outlet. They reach a far smaller audience and yet are far more balanced and fair with their coverage. When Fox has a conservative host, it is no secret and he doesn't pretend to be unbiased.

  • and who are the 2 liberals on FNS? kondracke and williams? they are neo-liberals that always end up agreeing with some far-right point of view.

    ok first of all, almost no "liberal network" has 5 guests on in debates, so the 1:4 claim is unsubstantiated. and second, the liberals dont barge in on the debates like fox news does.

    obviously they dont reach a small audience if they get those huge ratings. and no liberal or conservative on the other networks pretend or make their views a secret.

  • Yes they do. George Stephapolous, David Gregory and whoever the seeBS nightly news anchor are all liberals. That is a 1:4 ratio across the board. The liberal anchors control the topics...Fox News has a liberal anchor and/or they have 2 liberals and 2 conservatives. Juan Williams and Mort Kondracke and/or Mara Liason.

    Fox gets huge ratings only compared to cable news. Compared to the major networks their overall market share is still a fraction.

  • it doesnt ALWAYS matter who the anchors are... it also depends on the guests that are brought on, and a lot of those sunday talk shows bring conservatives like george will and others. by the way, david gregory is not liberal at all. this is man that has defending conservatives and the iraq war many, many times. the "liberals" at fox news are token liberals... they constantly defend conservatives and end up agreeing with them. look at williams/oreilly... barnes/kondracke. come on now.

  • Hannity never passes himself off as a journalist. Neither does O'Reilly. The hosts on all the other liberal networks pretend to be unbiased journalists. They control the dialogue and the only time they have anything resembling true debate is rarely. They typically bury any true conservative under a pile of liberals.

    Fox's Sunday politics program is hosted by a liberal and balances the panel with 2 liberals and 2 conservatives...No other network does that.

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  • there is hardly ever an instance where the liberal journalists "bury" true conservatives under other liberals. not even chris matthews does something like that. its always the conservative guests taking over the liberals.

    im sorry, but chris wallace is not a democrat/liberal. just because he is registered as one doesnt mean he is one. by his own admission, he is a registered democrat because he claims it is the only way to survive in the political life of washington, dc. please look it up.

  • Chris Matthews (Carter loyalist) does it every night. He will have maybe one segment with 2 conservatives and 2 liberals. The rest of his segments are all liberals. Occasionally he will toss in one-on-one with a conservative but typically that conservative will be a liberal conservative.

    Chris Wallace is a Democrat, just like his father from 60 Minutes. Fox hired him because he is a liberal. Do you see any other major network hiring a Republican anchor? No, you do not.

  • well at least you are honest that he brings on conservatives, but he has more than you claim, and he never does debates with 2 on 2... its usually 2-3 guests total, and many times more than one conservative and he doesnt ask loaded questions either. furthermore, matthews has praised conservatives many times and has claimed how great the iraq war was for the country. and every segment is not expected to be politically balanced... fox knows all about that when they bring on people to agree with.

  • Chris Matthews typically has 80% liberals on, same with Olberman, same with Maddcow, same with them all on NBC...Even Russet was renowned for stacking the deck with liberals...NBC is a DNC propaganda arm.

    The only reason I watch Fox News is because they don't go to the same elitist parties that the rest of the media attends. They don't bow down to the liberal establishment like the rest of the media.

  • all lies... that is a terribly inaccurate claim. you obviously dont watch any of those shows because you are too caught up with fox news' propaganda. and msnbc has never read off talking points from democrats... fox news has done that with republicans since its inception. and msnbc being liberal is bullshit. maddow is liberal, olbermann is more libertarian b/c he didnt like hilary, and she is to the left of obama on many issues. matthews and shuster are both center right. and joe scar is right.

  • You smoke crack. Olberman is a far left Democrat. Matthews worked for the DNC and Jimmy Carter. Matthews is currently considering running for office as a Democrat...Maddcow is a radical bulldyke feminist (a Democrat in other words).

    The only reason I rarely watch NBC anymore is because they are such disgusting liberal liars...They wouldn't know the truth if it slapped them upside the head...Worse than that, they know they are lying...Only a fool would defend NBC.

  • no, olbermann is not a far left democrat. he is a registered libertarian and on top of it has went after democrats. matthews has defended conservatives like mccain, romney, and guiliani. btw, he signed a new 4 year contract, so your wrong again. maddow is a progressive liberal. you need to stop with the name calling of a lesbian... show some maturity.

    yea, you already have your far right ideology down, so once you watch nbc, it is the devil to you. they know more truth than fox news ever will.

  • show me one lie from nbc/msnbc, and i will show you ten more from fox news. you dont have any solid proof to even show those lies and you just claim them to have an argument. and then on top of that, you add a fake outrage using big words like "disgusting". fox news wouldnt know the truth if it was shoved down their throats because they make up lies EVERY SINGLE DAY! only a fool would defend them,and you obviously are doing it, and you know how much they lie. they know theyre lying all the time.

  • and thats not including their guests like pat buchanan, who is conservative, along with mike murphy, and mike barnicle... all conservative.

    yes well, fox news bows down to the far right, while claiming they are "fair and balanced". if they want to admit they are conservative, i am fine with that, but dont insult peoples intelligence and claim you are something you arent. i mean look at that lineup... beck, baier, oreilly, hannity, and greta. all pandering to conservative ideology. so obvious.

  • Mike Barnicle is a liberal. Pat Buchanan has dementia and is not very well liked in the conservative movement. Mike Murphy is a neo-conservative. Which means he is really a Democrat...Not one of them is respected amongst conservatives.

    Beck is conservative. O'Reilly is an independent. Hannity is a conservative. Greta is a Democrat...Greta sticks to sensationalist stories, not very political...None of them pretends to be journalists. The rest of the major media all pretend to be journalists.

  • no mike barnicle is not a liberal... hes very conservative and its obvious from his arguments. pat buchanan is a real traditional conservative and has supported sarah palin, torture, george bush, and many other conservative issues. and he is very respected. mike murphy worked under mccain, so no hes not a neo-con, and doesnt make him a democrat either.

    beck is conservative... oreilly is conservative... hannity is conservative... greta is a weak token liberal who agrees with conservatives.

  • Mike Barnicle is an absolute liberal. The news companies that he has worked for are a testament to that.

    Pat Buchanan is persona nongrata amongst true conservatives. He does not speak for the Republican party or conservativism in any way. NBC selects weak neo-conservatives to appear on their propaganda shows...Fox picks strong debaters of both stripes and they allow fair and honest debate.

  • since when does working for a "news company" show how liberal you are. you obviously havent heard his arguments and he is very conservative on fiscal and social issues. btw, charles krauthammer and bill kristol have both written columns for liberal newspapers... and they are conservative as it gets.

    once again, obviously you havent listened to buchanan's arguments because he defends conservative ideology all the time and yells as loud as he can to make his point. so do scarborough and carlson.

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  • chris wallace is not a liberal. if he was a liberal, he would say he is a liberal and he wouldnt make comments and ask questions disagreeing with liberals all the time. fox hired him because he creates the illusion of a liberal while agreeing with conservatives, just like kondracke and williams do. joe scarborough is anchor of his own morning show and anchored his own show in primetime too... and so did tucker carlson, both on msnbc. not to mention glenn beck being on HLN before he went to fox.

  • Chris Wallace is a liberal. He is one of the few objective ones. He understands the value of objectivity, as Fox was objective enough to hire him despite his liberal bonafides...Joe Scarborough had a prime-time show when he was opposed to George Bush, same with Tucker Carlson...Now where are the conservatives on NBC? One on a morning show?...Now where are the conservatives on CNN? Did they ever exist beyond HLN? No, they did not.

  • chris wallace tries to be a liberal and is registered as one to survive in the washington elite. he is brought on to create the illusion. its so obvious from watching FNS, but its all up for debate. please... he doesnt have any liberal bondafides. what joe scarborough did 3 years ago is irrelevant... today, and even before, he has defending george bush on the war and torture... so has carlson. they are not neo-cons like hannity and oreilly. cnn has many conservatives, and so nbc. its all there.

  • Chris Wallace IS A LIBERAL. Chris Wallace is a liberal because his dad is a liberal. Chris Wallace got a job at Fox because Fox is fair and balanced. You WILL NEVER see a conservative running the prime-time news on any of the other major networks...Those jobs are only allowed to Democrat loyalists.

    Joe Scarborough was against the war. That is why he got a job at NBC. If you didn't know that than you are ignorant.

    There is NOT ONE conservative on CNN regularly. The occasional guest perhaps.

  • lmao chris wallace is a liberal because his dad is? is that the best you can come up with? so every person that is a liberal or conservative, that means the rest of their family is? no, wallace got a job at fox news because they want to pretend he is a liberal and they cant find anybody else. msnbc had joe scarborough and tucker carlson, and even alan keyes on its primetime lineup. hell, even monica crowley. lmao.

    no scarborough was never against the war, he was against how it was handled.

  • According to your suspect logic Chris Wallace is a closet conservative because he works for Fox. Ridiculous isn't it? The fact is Chris Wallace was born into liberalism, trained in liberalism, indoctrinated in liberalism, worked as a liberal journalist, votes liberal...But according to your ignorant suppositions he is now a conservative because he works for Fox...That is stupid.

  • no, he is a conservative, not closet, because he never defends liberals, and hardly ever goes hard on a conservative in a debate. he agrees with them most of the time, just like tokens like greta does. no its not ridiculous... its legitimate. so you know chris wallace's life now? by the way, he has also voted for republicans too. didnt know that one did you now? im sorry, mul, where did i say that he is a conservative solely because he works for fox? thats right i didnt, so dont make shit up.

  • please name some cnn and nbc conservatives!

  • CNN: Ed Rollins, William Bennett, Amy Holmes,Tara Wall, Alex Castellanos, David Gergen, Bay Buchanan.

    and those are just the contributors.

    MSNBC: Tucker Carlson, Joe Scarborough, Pat Buchanan, Steve Harris, Mike Murphy... and if you want to consider people on msnbc that pander to conservatives... Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitchell, and David Gregory.

  • Most of the conservatives you cited are rarely on CNN. They are typically on with a liberal host and 2 other liberals. The time they get to speak is at most 1/3rd of a segment, and that is based on questions formulated by a liberal establishment at CNN.

    Chuck Todd, Andrea Mitcheall and David Gregory are liberals and they can be relied on to be loyal to the Democrat label. Tucker, Scarborough and Buchanan are in no way respected amongst conservatives. They get a fraction of the overall airtime

  • you act like you watch cnn every single day to make all these false accusations. ive watched and seen ALL conservatives on at the same time on shows like LKL, and everytime there are liberals, there are an even number of conservatives with them.

    chuck todd, andrea mitchell and david gregory have, at worst, been apologists for the conservatives/republicans. todd has repeated many conservative talking points, mitchell's husband is a conservative and panders to them herself, and so does gregory.

  • also, it is absolutely PATHETIC that you claim tucker carlson, joe scarborough, and pat buchanan get "a fraction of the overall airtime"... tucker carlson had his own show for almost a full 3 years, and still contributes... joe scarborough had his own primetime show for more than 4 years, and now is on for 3 full hours in the mornings... and pat buchanan is brought on practically every single program (except countdown), even for the straight news shows on dayside showing love for conservatives.

  • BUT they are still NOT as conservative as the ones on fox news right?? I mean I guess Glenn beck was on cnn for a while?? or was it NBC? now with him as your argument I could see, he is as conservative as they come, and he is what a true conservative agrees with.. and btw, do you watch fox news 24/7 to be able to judge how "biased" they are?? CNN/MSNBC when they attempt to report the NEWS.. they are LIBERAL END OF STORY.. =)

  • is fox the standard for typical conservatives? no, so it doesnt matter if the ones at msnbc are as conservative. becky was on cnn because nobody wanted his nutty ass before. many people may agree with him as a true conservative, but he is as crazy, nutty, and stupid as they come. i dont have to watch fox news 24/7 to see how biased they are, but i know who is on the network, i know what they spew, and they are all far-right when they attempt to report news. they are propagandists, end of story!

  • well you took the words right out of my mouth!! =) If people would actually watch Fox news, they would see that all of the shows on their bring STRONG minded ANNOYING.. (LOL) liberals on their show and let them debate it out.. very much UNLIKE cnn..

  • lmao... oh please. if people would actually open their eyes and see how far right and conservative they are, esp the far right nuts that watch fox news, they wouldnt look so fucking stupid trying to claim fox news as "fair and balanced". there are NO strong minded liberals on fox news, period! and IF they go on fox news, they are outnumbered by 2 or 3 other conservatives, so that is just more yelling and it is even more of a mismatch. if you cant see something so obvious, you are a blind idiot.

  • well if your claim is true.. it's probably because liberals CONSTANTLY have to call people names like "idiot".. and use profanity like "fucking stupid".. when they have sadly lost their argument.. my dad always told me, you can find a liberal easy, they always resort to name calling when they have lost.. lol..

  • so only liberals use name calling? you might want to actually look around a little more and see how much shit conservatives and far right nuts talk. they are potty mouths while pretending to be christians and going to church. and if your dad actually thinks like that, he obviously doesnt know a single thing about liberals or people in general. no wonder why you turned out the way you did.

  • Gstate: "see how much shit conservatives and far right nuts talk."

    Are you kidding me? The sheer volume of hate speech, hate liberal propaganda and hate movies/documentaries (attempting to undermine everything Bush did) eclipsed anything Republicans did in the past...I couldn't turn a corner in Los Angeles without being assaulted by some bit of leftist hate propaganda.

  • quit your bitching. people from all sides of the political spectrum deal with hate... and it depends what you consider hate. the hate bush induced with his atrocious 8 years in office was warranted because he ran the country like a dictatorship. this was not hate... it was having a dissenting opinion against our leaders... something even republicans have encouraged. and yes, los angeles is going to be like that... but it doesnt characterize EVERY single liberal out there. so it is irrelevant.

  • and all the violence encouraged hate being lead by the glenn beck and michelle bachmann against obama is down right scary. the guy is barely even 3 months into his presidency, and the republicans are already being sore ass losers and telling people to take their country back and start some sort of a revolution... not to mention tea parties (advertised exclusively by fox news), a "9/12 project" with irrational principles, and former bush officials whining while bush is actually staying quiet.

  • this is hilarious.. you go on to prove my exact point.. by cutting down my father, my upbringing and myself.. all because you got NOTHING ELSE.. I am literally laughing out loud..

  • im glad your laughing, keep laughing until you choke on your spit, pal. i could care less what you think... i will continue to speak the truth about fox news no matter whether you like it or not, and until you prove any of my claims wrong (which you still havent and probably never will), i wont stop. i have nothing against your father, but he has no right to judge liberals like me, and neither do you. im not judging you, im talking about fox news, so stop bringing up politics. just deal with it.

  • I'm sorry you think that is the truth.. and my father wasn't judging liberals, he was showing me how to pinpoint one when they haven't admitted that they are.. and the best way to do that is to watch their LANGUAGE.. LOL.. and it worked!!! I'll have to tell him~!! adios!! you keep defending liberal news and I'll keep defending FAIR news =) God Bless!

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  • lmao, you wouldnt know the truth if you pulled it out of your ass. wow, so you need your dad to "pin point" liberals for you? what are you a fucking retard? its not that hard... conservatives are morons, and liberals are rational. pretty simple. btw, we all speak the same language, even if its cursing. deal with it. yea, go live in his basement while your at it too, loser. oh and good luck defending "fair news" when watching fox news... what a joke.

  • Liberals are rational? Black people are about 99% liberal (because of brainwashing of course). Black people voted for Obama because he is black. White people voted for him because they feel guilty for being white...What in the world was rational about voting for Obama? What is rational about the almost worshipful obedience to a black man with no experience? Irrational.

  • thanks.. and btw.. mr. gstate sounds real freaking rational in his posts.. LMAO.. I have yet to say one nasty thing to him/her.. use any profanity etc.. and yet I'm being called a f*cking retard.. loser, moron.. etc.. lol.. every post of his consistently shows us the real side of liberals.. all while trying to defend them.. LMAO..

  • no, you havent said anything "nasty" to me, but you have said many idiotic things that make you look stupid. also, i didnt realize youre a woman... im usually more polite to women, but you exemplify the same attitude most conservative males do, such as mulholland over here. anyway, take care.

  • You liberal lowlife scum aren't fit to put in my dog's poop bags. You are the vilest, lying, hate-filled, angry, malicious scum. The Democrat party has offered nothing to America except deceitfullness and division...The only thing the liberals offered the last 8 years has been treachery and divisiveness...The liberals main objective was to make people hate Republicans so they could inspire them to put themselves in power...Now we have an absolutely incompetent moron made out to be the Messiah.

  • you are one prejudice asshole. even if obama was a white guy, black people STILL would have voted for him. and there millions of black people in this country that despised him as well. and where exactly did you get 99% from? did you use some "fair and balanced" fox news study or something? next time you want to make assumptions, do real research. lmao... white people feel guilty for being white? more bigotry. please... what was rational about keeping an atrocious president in office for 8 years?

  • The hatred of George Bush was what was irrational. Putting in a lying con-man in his place is just stupid...Almost every campaign promise Osama made he has flip-flopped on...I hope you feel burned, because you have.

  • so protesting against war crimes like illegal torture, illegal spying, lying about the reasons for invading a country, waging a war against a country without getting attacked is irrational? having a man steal an election and stay in the WH for 8 years is ridiculous. wow, you must be clinically insane. what the fuck has he lied about and conned the people of this country out of? and i love how you show your bigotry by calling him "osama". what has he flip flopped on? lol, no i dont feel "burned".

  • A few people were tortured and it was very productive according to the CIA. Unless your head is very far up your ass, you must have heard that Obama just okayed the very same Bush wire-tapping that all you lefties were claiming was so horrible.

    FYI...Bush won the election in 2000, and Gore failed at attempting to steal it from him.

  • lmao... a few people were tortured? then what do you call abu-gharib? no, it wasnt productive... it lead to misinformation, and that was shown by not even being able to find bin laden. no my head is not up my ass because i know about obama's decision to allow the wiretapping, and olbermann completely took him to task and railed against it. you wouldnt know that now would you... because the liberal media is evil, right?

    no bush stole the election and he got his ass covered by a lot of people.

  • I call Abu-Graib an overhyped crock-of-shit. Those scumbag Muslims saw off the heads of innocent people for fun.

    Olberman is a pathological liar and DNC whore.

  • of course you do... what a surprise. unfortunately for you, nobody cares what you call it because you will do whatever you can to defend the bush administration and its many war crimes. of course its nothing to you... you dont care about middle eastern people getting tortured. but if our american soldiers were tortured, you would be going crazy. well now you know how humans feel when they are treated like that.

    lmao... how is he a pathological liar and dnc whore? give me an example, please.

  • Why do you have his balls in your mouth? Why would I need to explain how Olberdouche is a pathological liar and DNC whore? Is it not obvious? NBC is in bed with the Democrat party and if this isn't obvious to you, you are a fool.

  • look whose talking? why do you have oreilly's old, shriveled nuts in your mouth? you need to explain that because youre a far right crackpot making idiotic claims without backing it up with even ONE fact. just give me one thing... how is he a "dnc whore"? youre the one who acts like he knows everything, so prove it, genius. no its only obvious to conspiracy theory nuts like you that watch fox news and believe oreilly's bullshit. you are already a fool for watching that far right network anyway.