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  • i like yours, no i like yours, i like yours, no i like yours, i like yours, no i like yours

  • baby shot my ass!

  • the ladys voice reminds me of someone famous.!.^^!

  • That's how people should handle getting taken out in a race. Thumbs up and nice comments about each other's cars. Good races guys.

  • The days of actually building your own engine are over. People just pay others to put a supercharger or nitro and call it a day not ever really knowing how to wrench their own car.

    True both cars are fine American cars but it takes alot more to actually earn respect than to just chunk artificial power and brag about it. I actually like to brag about my work because I do it myself and nothing on my list is "artificial" horsepower wise. All engine and true horsepower. built not bought.

  • The cobra is supercharged right?

  • This shit kills me....LOL It just burns GM folk's asses when these little 281 c.i. Cobras tear that ass up, don't it.....LOL For what was paid for that damn 'Vette, that dude could proli make that Cobra 1000 rwhp....LOL Go get 'em dude.....:-) BTW, a lot of it depends on the driver....wink wink So what if Ford chooses to make their HP with forced induction vs. displacement. Also, WTF, who cares what happens past 100 mph? It's who gets there first....LOL

  • :O thats a commemorative z06!! we have one!! lol

  • thats not a 410 rwhp vette

  • wtf is the mustang letting off after like 5 seconds? Because the vette is gonna pull it up top is why :)

  • whats the cobra got done to it? not talking shit its just a stock cobra doesnt beat a stock c5z0

  • I would take a vette any day over a cobra! vettes get more pussy~! WAR 02 z06

  • @ZR1vette

    No the driver gets the pussy, if you have to rely on your car to pick up chicks you must have no swag.

  • @OUTLAWZPRODUCTIONZ +10000000

  • i love how when the guy goes "whats in it" the girl goes "its supercharged"... well no shit moron.. if the fact that its a cobra didnt give it away the whistling would have definitely given it away..

  • thats bull. the corvette would beat it if the mustang wasnt using NoS. Supid baby bottles shouldnt be used in races like this. The corvette is pure power, no supercharger or NoS. I love superchargers and dont have a bias for anything. But i have much more respect for the vette.

  • @EscapeTheBass Are you kiding. I know 3 c6 zo6 drivers and every one of them has a 75-100 shot on them. One of them put the shot on because he got yanked by a whipple cobra. His words, not mine. Ls1 camaro's, vettes, and fox body stangs use spray more than anybody and its usually in that same order. you better respect these cobras or they will jump up and bite you in the ass...lol When i had my 03 cobra with a kenne bell, i demolished C5Z06's like it was nothing.

  • @digiam42 I'm sorry but I am calling bullshit. Stock for stock the c5 zo6 does an 11.9 1/4 mile and the best stock time for a cobra is 12.4. Look I think the Cobra is pretty badass and all but it doesn't have what it takes to walk a zo6. Your talking out your ass. And if you are talking about a modded Cobra vs a stock zo6 then your just being a jackass.

  • lol..the lights on the vette act like a parachute, thats an aerodynamic problem right there...but both cars are AWESOME

  • @SCRex0472 with all that nonsense you're talking I sure hope you have a car capable of running with either of these cars. Pullied/bolt on cobras run mid 11's at the track trapping 118+ (I ran 11.7 @ 120, 1.95 60') add a decent sized shot (75 or more) and that's 10's @ 125. But then again, you're probably like most YouTube kids that talk out of their ass. -___-

  • 3 Cobra what...it never ever ever pulls a stock Z06...so don't brag....it would take a lot of bottle and a lot of tuning for 03 Rustang to outrun Z06...and you know this...that is why you didn't post mods to your straight line trailer park p.o.s.

  • looks like that vette has no power what so ever. maybe it's just the way the video is but it looks like it has no kick at all

  • hey babe i just beat a Z06 w/out spray.. I want roadhead ha

  • Two of my favorite cars. :D Long live Mustang V.s Corvette! :D They keep making eachother get better. I love it!

  • Both cars are SICK! altho i would get the terminator :)

  • i wouldnt wast puting money in a cobra a few mods and that z06 would dust off nitros or not, but you have to love all the american muscles!!!!!

  • Now that is a race between two real car people! No lies and no stupid hateing on each others cars! GREAT RACE

  • What did the vet have done to it to put 415 to the wheel? because they come with 405 but it's really 420 at the fly and 360 to the wheels. We have an 03 ZO6. So maybe you just dont know what rwhp is or there is something done to it. Glad to correct another vette owner.

  • Nice runs - great stuff - looks like a lot of fun!

  • the vette drivers pretty cool

  • Why are you guys racing in an area like that? At least take it to a main highway with clearer traffic. If someone ran a light or weren't looking where they were going that'd be it....

  • vette guys get so pissed bc a car that weighs 600 lbs more can hang right with it with just a pulley swap and exhaust

  • @21undeadEd us vette guys don't get pissed at that lol, we just laugh at you because were all motor and you have a supercharger with a smaller pulley and your only hanging with us lol.

  • @21undeadEd And how many Nurburg records does the mustang and cobra have...(crickets chirp in background) thats because the vette is a "DRIVERS" car, its meant to be a "do all performance" car. I give the 03 and 04 cobras props, its the only ford i like besides the ford raptor, but thats the reason i bought a 03 Z06 over a cobra, for the handling characteristics and not to mention i still get 30 to 32 MPG on the highway.

  • if that zo6 is stock it dont have 410rwhp it has 405 under the hood and that sickstang aint stock!! if they were both stock the zo6 would have blone the doors off that sickstang!!

  • @dalejr88ross hey dipshit the mustang cobra has 430 horsepower stock srry but the corvette wouldnt be able stick with it

  • @Super270hunter1 the terminator cobras came 390hp stock. not 430.

  • @Super270hunter1 Um, so you think that because the Cobra has a little more hp it's faster??? You're a retarded 19 year old hillbilly. You need to learn about power to weight ratios, gearing, weight distribution, and remember that some drivers are better than others. Stock for stock with two identical drivers, the Z will beat the Cobra.

  • Here chevy, chevy, chevy...

  • Cobras for life, I wish they would have put the front Cobra emblem in the grill in 04 like they did in 03, guess I'll have to order one.

  • @rokkin1 03 didnt come with it either

  • WOW, you guys really smoked that minivan!!!

  • You all hate to much on ford or gm. GM and ford both made some fast ass cars, everyone should hate on ricers.

  • @Z0SICK123

    Finally! :)

  • @Z0SICK123 I always see GM fanboys hating on Ford. I guess they are a little butthurt that a little 4.6 shits on vettes all day long.

  • @KiLLeGaCy A little "supercharged" 4.6, don't forget. They don't shit on my Vette, but I don't hate either. I've owned my fair share of Stangs. 04 Cobra was the funnest car I've ever driven until I got my Z06 back from Lingenfelter.

  • @OneFastZ06 bullshit ha

  • @hotkarl92 What's bullshit?

  • @hotkarl92 and hows that

  • @Z0SICK123 fuckin oath well said

  • @Z0SICK123 Nobody should hate on anyone. It's a TIRED fucking bullshit problem in the auto enthusiast community and it's making it a horrible place to be as the years go on. Who cares what people like or drive? As long as they're into automobiles that's all that should matter. Hate is bullshit, no matter where it's pointed. I don't care for imports, and I dislike riced up cars more than anything, but I refuse to talk shit and hate on people because it's a drain on the community as a whole.

  • @Z0SICK123 Amen. fucking imports

  • @Z0SICK123 ye your right the c5 zo6 and the 03 cobra are super fast for their price

  • A stock c5 z06 will beat a stock cobra by a few car lengths for sure z06 will go easy low 12s vs 12.6 or 12.7 for the cobra z06 will trap at higher speed as well.

  • obviously not a lot of cobras in that town lol

  • Lets get the new z06 to run this nitrous slobra :)

  • @black93z28camaro it would beat the new Z even worse with the mods it has....

  • i like i even better without the bottle

  • hahahahaha wtf first one to beat this car.....ask me why i went from a 447rwhp z06 to a 03 cobra steggy stage 4

  • @pewtersskillinz06

    because its all about ford =D

  • I don't care what anyone says, It is fucking bad ass when you can drop a Kenne Bell 2.8H Mammoth Super Charger on a 2003-04 Terminator Cobra stock engine and upgrade your fuel system and w/ cat back exhaust and get 774rwhp @26 psi. And if you don't believe go look on the Kenne Bell website for the 2003-04 Cobra 2.8H Mammoth kit to see the results.

  • I'm your huckleberry!

  • that cobra has way more then just spray cuz stock the vette puts out about 380rwhp and destroys stock cobras....bad

  • @toddlerlou Good point. The cobras run low 13's stock. the z06 runs mid 12's.

  • ya lets take off the supercharger because racing a small block 4.6 against a 5.7 or 6.0 litre is so much more fair. sounds just as stupid if someone told a chevy driver to put in a smaller motor and see what happens LOL.

  • @bluecapone Um nitrous and a supercharger was needed for the cobra

  • @leadsailz

    A motor and wheels was also needed... what exactly is your point, brain child?

  • @bluecapone Well if your to stupid to understand, why exactly should I even explain my point?

  • @leadsailz

    Maybe you're too stupid to realize your point is pointless. I could say chevy "needs" bigger motors too, but thats sounds just as dumb as your "point".

  • @bluecapone What exactly was my point that you are referring to?

  • @bluecapone well they do they have the 5.3 V8 which they put into some of the grand prix GXP models and its still rates lighter more HP and torque then a stock 4.6 with no blower. hell even in the 90's a chevy V6 3.8 only had a 5 hp difference then the mustang gt

  • @bluecapone Ummmmmmmm you could put the 4.6L in the Z06 and still rape the Mustang. Big weight difference.

    Meh both cars are so quiet and boring. Z06 prolly stock. Cobra prolly pully and a small shot. Neither even sounds like it has headers. Doesn't even look like a race. Are you doing like a 30-45 pull or something? Also looks like a lot of cars/pedestrians around. Fail.

  • @Dureil

    Not my video idiot, you fail...

  • @bluecapone yeah. They should know that the corvette is well underpowered anyway. Those are just the people that dont know much but to dogg on someone elses car and say whats better. this was a good race

  • vette still handles better and is better simply cuz its all motor and doesnt have gay nitrous

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  • The Vette is a 2004 commemorative Zo6 (z16 package). Same car that ran the Nürburgring in 7:56 in factory form. Same car that can run the quarter in 12 sec flat. Terminators are cool, but that zo6 is in a different league.

  • don't know why all you guys get in pissing matches over this over n over again , yea the cobra has a charger and the vette is n/a , but they are 2 diff cars , the z06 was 50k+ new and the cobra is only 33k soo for the xtra 20 grand ya the vette should be better but all vettes are all subject to horrible interiors after 10k miles it's nothing but creeks , cobras are tight even at 100k , iv owned both and there both awesome cars just different types of sports car , you all like detroit hp who ca

  • @erikmcfetridge Yup your right the vette might be 50k but why do you think that is. Its made out of fiber glass, has way better suspension than the cobra, better braking system, same power naturally aspirated, and if you know how to take care of a car your interior wont be crap after 10k miles. Cobras are fats and nice but they all got the same problem they dry up on the 8th piston and blow the fuk up always.

  • glad to see both cars complimenting eachother in good sportsmanship compared to the rest of the retards who get angry when they are beat

  • Cool ass driver in the Vette! Most people I beat are Assholes!!!

  • it's a supercharged

  • I like it when the driver I'm racing is cool too. It makes for a more fun race and finish.

  • Lol the Vette was just about to start pulling in 4th gear in the last run.

    MUSTANG = Must Use Supercharger/Turbo Against NA GM.

  • @streetxbully they are not in the same class dude...vette is with ford GT,mustang is a 4 sits coupe not 2 as the vette, get the point?

  • @myyvaine Yeah and too bad the C6 ZO6 still beats the Ford GT, and cost half as much....and the GT is also supercharged ROFL.

  • @streetxbully Wroooooooooooong, I award you no points, and may god have mercy on our soul

  • @streetxbully ? tell that to the new 2011 gt and tell that to chevy/gm since they use a supercharger on the zr1......

  • @ls1eater Yeah tell that to the Ford GT that was only made for 2 years because it was very gay and very over priced, and failed just like ever other Ford vehicle. How long has the Vette been around?...exactly lol.You mustang fags think that the 2011 5.0 is god's gift to the road now that it can FINALLY beat the camaro, and only because the camaro weighs 300 lbs more. I can't wait till next summer when the 2012 supercharged camaro is out on the street eating your precious little pony's for lunch.

  • @streetxbully typical chevy excuse

  • @ls1eater Not excuses...facts buddy. The corvette owns the mustang in every aspect of performance.

  • @streetxbully looks like it....

  • @ls1eater Yeah it looks like the stang needed a blower AND nitrous to take down a N/A bolt-on Vette. I still think had they gone any faster the Vette would have started to pull. A mustang has the aerodynamics of a barn on wheels.

  • @streetxbully lol it can use that blower and spray cause its got a good enough engine to handle it......do the same to the vette and itll be in a million pieces...

  • @ls1eater Lol yeah that's why cobra motors blow up once they hit 450 whp. N/A Vettes make close to that STOCK. And what about the ZR1 Vette, did you not know that those are supercharged, dumbFUCK??

  • @streetxbully lolz this isnt about the zr1 dumbass......its a completely different type of machine, your taqlking about a 40k vette and trying to talk about a 120k vette....lolz.....cobras blow up at 450rwhp huh????? so whats the excuse for the cobra in the video......dont waste my time kid. the 03/04 forged motor is a way better motor stock for stock compared to the ls1-2-6

  • @ls1eater Yeah it's a wayyyy better motor that needs a fucking blower and nitrous to make any power. And to beat a little bolt-on vette by a few feet lol. Not to mention 4 valves per cylinder lol. That vette was about to start pulling also but the scared little mustang driver let off.

  • @streetxbully lol go back and play with your GTP......

  • @ls1eater Funny thing is my GTP would probably beat whatever you drive haha. And i also have a LS1 camaro.

  • @streetxbully I drive a 07 gt500....good try though

  • @streetxbully haha there not even in the same class and the mustang beat it

  • @adcstmh Yeah it took how much boost and how much nitrous to do so? LOL and the mustang shut down right before the vette started to pull, because that's your typical bitch mustang owner. When people buy a vette they don't just buy it to go fast you ignorant piece of shit. I'd love to see ANY mustang compete with a vette on a road course hahaha

  • @streetxbully well the mustang isnt ment to compete with vettes cause the vette is a super high powered care and ment for ford gts and lambos and the muswtang is ment for camaro and challenger and how am i ignorant? i just said the mustang beat the corvette? oh and the new gt500 supersnake will compette

  • @ls1eater Only a complete idiot like yourself would agrue that a mustang is at all superior to a Corvette ROFL

  • its funny that z keeps up without the spray z>svt

  • @hellbound413 keeps up????????? it got walked hard on the spray.

  • @ls1eater And Ford has NOTHING that will even dream of competing with the ZR1 you fuckin faggot. Pull your head out your ass already.

  • @streetxbully how bout the ford gt you retard

  • @CallofDutyI2o7I The ZR1 Vette also owns the ford GT in everything lol...for half the price. Thus why ford stopped making the POS...retard.

  • @ls1eater Whats funny is he probably spent $50 racing with the nitrous lol

  • 1st one? geuss he never raced fast cars haha

  • @mustangmafia1 well theres not many faster than the car he had lol

  • Nice show of class from the stang to be cool about it. I always buy a beer for my victims and take them to counseling after a race.

  • @Saiga76239mm - Probably. We caught the Stock Terminator, but the KB was NWTBF...

  • @mofobucs

    I wasn't going to say anything but this comment just bothered me too much. There is absolutely no way in hell a stock 03-04' cobra is taking a C5 Z06 unless the guy can't drive. No stock cobra is running 12.30-12.40's @ 116+ like the C5 Z06 did in every magazine. The best I've seen was 12.90 @ 110.8 *Screw the magazines, I go to the track every weekend and always see these cars racing. Stock for stock the C5 Z06 doesn't walk, it runs away from the cobra. Not even close man.

  • @mofobucs Dude, I love mustangs, but you're dumb if you think a stock cobra is going to touch a z06. Do you honestly think 15-20 hp/tq difference is going to save you from that 500lb curb weight difference? You just beat someone who didn't know how to drive. Normally I don't go by weight only, but the weight difference is just to big to even matter dude. 405hp/400tq and 3,100 weight vs 420hp/4xx tq and 3, 600lbs

  • @Texarmageddon You obviously are clueless to the capabilities that a pullied/tuned 03/04 Cobra has.

  • @DanSVT03 That's NOT stock. Stock is untouched driven from the lot. Don't lecture me on your half ass ideal of stock and try to make me out as the fool. Driven off the lot Cobras are slower than a Z06. Any tuning is mods in my book. Anything goes after that point.

  • @Texarmageddon And you're point is....?? I wasn't arguing that a stock 03 Cobra was faster than a stock C5 Z06, I simply said you are obviously clueless to what an 03 Cobra with the most basic of bolt ons can do.

  • @DanSVT03 Then why and the hell did you open your mouth and try to insult me? You clearly can read my comment. You can clearly see that I said "Stock" cobra in the first comment? Hence, the subject was stock cobras ONLY. Not pullied or tuned or bolt ons.

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  • @Texarmageddon ive got an assumption im gonna go out on a limb here and say the z06 driver is a complete fatass...he weighs ATLEAST 1,000 lbs. this makes the cars weight 4100 plus a full tank of gas is 4200. the mustang driver and passenger are both anorexic and each weigh 75 lbs that makes the mustang weight 3750 and hes running on empty. due to the z06's uneven weight distribution to the drivers side the cobra wins. the owner has a nos fetish also, its not even hookd up he just likes the noise

  • @mofobucs your an idiot!!!!!! a stock 03-04 cobra does not outrun a c5 zo6!

  • that third pull was great, and its nice to see a corvette guy and a mustang guy say hey i like ur car, cause they are both badass. lol.

  • Stock Cobras can't trap 116, so your beating the driver not the car. It takes at least 50rwhp more for a Cobra to beat a Vette assuming drivers/conditions are equal.

  • Who the hell sprays on an 03-04 cobra bolt a kenne bell on that thing if you wanna beat that vette. What sucks for him is heads n cam vettes beat kenne bell cobras all the time. Even if the cobras put bigger dyno #s out. Chevy for life!

  • yall quit suckin eachotherr peepee! your suppose to give um the finger when your done

  • i dont think either of them would like my cobra.

  • Still take the z over the cobra, quicker, more nimble and a hella lot lighter. On top of that its naturally aspirated.

  • aww no fair a supercharged car can only stay equal with a non supercharged one ;)

  • im sorry but a stock 03-04 cobra will not beat a C5 Z06. its not gonna happen. Can a bone stock cobra with slicks run a 7.7 sec 1/8th mile ??? I dont think so

  • @mofobucs Those C5 vettes weigh 3116 lbs whereas your Cobra weighs 3665 lbs. So I would assume you're running a 150 shot. And the bottle might be off, but there's still spray in the lines lol

  • @08SilveradoLT Just because there's spray in the lines doesn't mean that it's being sprayed..lol

  • @zackomac Well yeah, but I meant not all nitrous systems are activated by a button. They can be activated by a certain amount of throttle...

  • @08SilveradoLT Yeah I know. That's the set up I have on my Cobra. It activates at 95% throttle, but that only engages if you flip the switch to arm the nitrous. So yeah it's the same thing as a button.

  • @08SilveradoLT Yeah it's called a W.O.T switch.

  • 3rd run should've been closer. grandpa knows zero about driving. Cobra guy drives well.

  • yeah they were cool.. i hate jerks after who make excuses or runs. but still id like to run um both. even with the "baby" shot :) sorry it stuck in my head when she said that..

  • so what your saying is, without the bottle it's a bitch whip? XD

  • @mofobucs Agreed... Stock 03 04 cobra will beat the vette.... However if MR cafeevil wants a real race, i'd spank his whatever with my 2003 Mach 1 .. ( 724 RWHP 618 Tq safely tuned ) i'm so sure of it i'd put my pink on it!

  • I will run you any day all day all motor boy. I got a road course for us right here in MD.

  • good sportsman ship

  • que poco corre el corvette

  • get a real camera

  • So a modified mustang can keep up with a Z06 but in the end which car will be more stable and need less tune-up after racing? and which still makes you look better? Driving a modded mustang screams "I am a teen or in my 20s" and that you could only afford that instead of a real sports car. Not dissing on the maker of this video or anything. I drive a 2002 cougar for fucks sake so I am in that category too, but I wish I had real money and could afford a nice sports car ;p

  • maybe if they made mustangs from shitty fiberglass, instead of steel, people wouldnt talk so much bullshit about power to weight ratio.

  • cobras and vettes arent even in the same classification so idk why everyone argues about it now the ford gt and vette? hmmm....

  • Your an idiot. Cobras are more rare than corvettes. I see vettes ALL THE TIME and i am the only termi car i have seen in myrtle beach. there are slow versions of any car and any car can be fast with enough money. just like what u want and drive what you can. arguing and trying to make points on stupid shit is ignorant and anoying. appreciate all cars for what they are

  • seriously mustangs are the slowest cars, no matter what you do to them, in the other hand Z06 thats a real car, i rather drive a ricer civic with a turbo than a mustang

  • soo that real car just got bet by the slowest car that makes sense

  • dude you are one stupid fuck, mustangs are holding some of the lowest times on the 1/4 mile for a reason, not a stupid corvette

  • YOU ARE A FREAKING IDIOT!!!

  • That's just because you can't afford a real car...

  • @juanox10 Haha. You have to be kidding me. My '84 Mustang, with a STOCK GT40P 302 and a T-5, keeps up with my friend's STOCK '98 Trans Am with an automatic...and remember, '98s are LS1s. You do the math.

  • @keetoniswhat trans am may have the ls1 but they're way heavier than vettes. You do the math.

  • @juanox10 What does that have to do with you saying that Mustangs are slow? If my Mustang has a 302 and a T/A has a 350, and I have no problem at all keeping up, then how is it slow if I have a way smaller engine?

  • @keetoniswhat why are you talking about trans ams and mustangs anyway? i never said anything about a trans am, your rustang can't keep up with a z06 anyway. end of discussion.

  • @juanox10 You said Mustangs were slow. I said they weren't, and the T/A was for comparison. You can have your overpriced Z06.

  • @juanox10 your a fucking retard, mustangs are priced under $40,000 and z06's over 45,000. Of cource the vette is going to be faster you dumfucking shit. Use some commen scense for fuck sake moron. If I were to put an extra $10,000 into the mustang then it would SMOKE a z06. The stang would be 300 miles up the road.

  • @DarkHour404 acutally the new gt500 mustang cost more than the zo6 vette, yet the vette still smokes it in every possible way.... who's the dumbfuck now??

  • @juanox10 umm first we werent talking about gt500's we were talking about gt's and cobras. GT500's are a whole diffrent company and engine. Also the new gt500's cost 50,000 while the new z06's cost over 65,000. So yea..your still the dumbfuck.

  • @juanox10 dude even a fully loaded gt500 wont scratch the bottom price of a zo6.

  • love the cobra its for real

  • FAIL. worst fucking video i've ever seen.

  • FAIL. worst fucking comment i've ever seen.

  • I've Only run one Terminator and won 50 bucks!!! Best 2 out of 3 and I was 2 and 0. I have to assume the Cobra was stock and at the time my C5 coupe had cam and bolt ons. 380 to the tires. Love those cars, love stomping 'em more :) Good vid!!!

  • @slowestever Had to have been stock. Cobras with the crappy inefficent blower replaced with a kenny bell can take a C6 Z06 although NOT EASILY! I love the new Z06 too-

  • @cantbsdave- it could have been lightly modded and had a bad driver. Definitely not a havily modded one though. KB Cobras are wicked, looking forward to running into some soon :D

  • i raced a 400hp zo6 i beat him but i red line twice but he gt gas who cares bout track times dnt count on the street n he lost n sme one else won so its the drivers 2

  • hahahaha first guy to beat that car? clearly weren't racing any termi's. haha good shit termi driver. how big a shot u runnin? 75, 100?

  • @hastings631 And the Cobra was MILD

  • beautiful engine sound

  • Though that vette was a little slow I would still drive any vette cause their all awesome an so the new mustang Gt-500 or the new Saleen, but im into nissans....

    Awesome race an thats how racer supose to treat each other with respect an with no bad sport of losing a race....

  • I beg to differ...A stock 03-04 cobra is equally as fast as a stock C5 vette. It will not beat a C5 Z06. Stock the C5 Z06 runs 0-60 in 3.9 and Quarter mile in 12.4. There's no way the Cobra running a 4.5 0-60 and 12.9 quarter mile can beat the Z06.I owned an 04 Z06 and beat an 03 pullied cobra easy. Anyway, not trying to argue, but it is a fact. And I am a vette and viper lover, but give mad props to the 03-04 cobra...peace bro.