Pele greatest Dummy! (MUST SEE!)

[gerrad1973]

Pele fail.....he missed !

[relaal]

@gerrad1973 ahaha still nice

[B3nb77]

WOW

[gurneyer]

Completely outrageous but absolute genius! I dont think I have ever seen this attempted since.

[gerrad1973]

@gurneyer - because he missed ?

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

Its not the miss its the fking dummy thats genius, are you blind?

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain - The dummy is rather devalued by the poor finish.....not much use doing a trick if there is no end product - C.Ronaldo can do a million step-overs and dummies - but unless he beats the man and scores/assists doesnt counr for diddly.

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

Poor finish? Can you not see the tight angle he had plus the on rushing defender on the line. Please do not even mention Pele and lack of end product in the same sentence, have you not seen his goal tally?

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain . 1, The tight angle? Exactly - Pele made the angle tight by dummying it - he could have taken a touch to the left and scored with a non-tight angle and tried this dummy another time when the ball was more central. 2,Because he let it go too wide also gave the defender chance to get back. 3,His goal tally would have been higher had he taken a touch and scored. 4,Poor finish - yes..still....5,I didnt mention lack of end product - you did! i said unless he scores it counts for nought

[gerrad1973]

@gerrad1973 - oh, and look up 'great goal by jepser blomquist' - he does it and scores - now THAT counts! He did it with a central through ball and was left with a good angle to score and no chance for the defender to get back.

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

wow you mean someone saw Pele's move and tried it himself and scored years later? omg how original lol. You really is taking this out of context, Brazil 3-1 up last minute, game was over, and he tried something never done before, and yes, the FIRST time its seen on the world stage. It might seen ordinary now, but does the Cruyff turn look special now? did it result in a goal? no but it inspired millions to try it. THATS the point *facepalm*

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain -It was original - he assessed the situation and scored - Pele couldnt. It doesnt seem ordinary - especially at the time - but as i said, it didnt matter much as he didnt score. There have been skills better than this that have resulted in goals and many more resulting in misses.

[gerrad1973]

@gerrad1973 The point about the Cruyff turn is a red-herring. The FACT is that the turn worked in that he went past his marker because of it and got the cross in. The striker missed his shot, not Cruyffs fault - he did his bit.

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

And the point of the Pele dummy is to bypass the keeper or defender involved, which he did successfully, hence the miss did not taint the trick. If he attempted the dummy and the keeper intercepted the ball, then the dummy would not be seen as a great piece of skill...Do you not see that? And no Blomquist's goal wasn't 'origina'l, becuase its the trick which made the goal special, and Pele had already performed the trick successfully before he did.

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain Absolute rubbish - Pele went past the keeper to score - did he pass? no - he shot - and missed, Cruyff passed succesully and had an end product - Pele didnt. Of course the trick was tainted you clown. Oh, and to correct you, Bolmqvists 'goal' was original compared to Peles cos it was a goal - the trick might not have been original - but the fact it was a goal was. You are grasping at straws now.....

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

Cruyff's 'pass' was a poor cross which did not result in a goal, but still the TRICK he performed was regarded as a success BECAUSE he beat his man.

'The Pelé runaround move is a football move designed to get around an opponent', now did he or did he not beat the keeper with the dummy? did he not get a shot away? The shot is, like Cruyff's cross after the turn, already part of a different skill, so why does Pele have to score for the DUMMY to be regarded as a successful?

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain Nonsense....if you want to argue about it then at least watch it...the cross was a good one- straight to the feet of the striker who missed his kick - you should watch it. It had an end product. Peles had no end product - had he squared it to a striker to score fair enough, but he kicked it out of play - no end product - no threat. Pele only beat himself by doing the dummy when it was not appropriate due to the angle of the throughpass (contrast Blomqvists GOAL).

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

The END PRODUCT of the dummy, was to delibrately bypass the opponent by leaving the ball and circling the opponent, and still retain possession of the ball afterwards. Now can you actually answer my question, Is that the case here? THAT is the point of this video (Pele's greatest dummy). Pele should've squared it? To who? Please do not mention possibilities which does not relate to the context of the situation we're talking about just for the sake of argument.

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain Look - Its not difficult.....Pele was through 1-on-1. He could have easily scored by going left for a tap in. Pele decided to do this elaborate dummy rather than score. In doing the dummy on this throughball he was taken far too wide to score - and he missed. Thats is why he failed. You can go past a whole team 3 times each player - if you then cannot score there is no end product. Blomqvist chose the right throughball and score, Cruyff did the turn which allowed him to then

[gerrad1973]

@gerrad1973 provide a cross which the striker should have scored. bypassing an opponent is not a product, neither is retaining possession - they are transient proponents of an end-product - namely a GOAL (and/or corss or pass to get one). He retained possession - but you fail to mention that he did it in an area that was completely ineffective - and that from a very clear opportunity to score. Its incorrectly named - his GREATEST dummy? No - he scored with others - Pele Fail sums it up

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

It is his greatest dummy, because it was original, it has never been done before, it served its purpose as a piece of skill. Do you not see why so many people still remember the dummy even if he didnt score?

'Talent hits a target no one else can hit; Genius hits a target no one else can see'

Congrats on Blomqvist for scoring after seeing the skill, but he didnt invent it, and its easy to critise after you've seen the target yeah?

[gerrad1973]

@DarkViIIain EVERYTHING has never been done before at some point....all dummys were original at one time - players try new skills all the time - some of the good ones even SCORE with them! Talent might hit a target - but Pele didnt here. FACT.

[DarkViIIain]

@gerrad1973

Yeah, and people remember this because it was the first time, just like the Cruyff for his turn. Don't take 'target' literally here too lol, I really don't know why we're arguing anymore.

[thatfolgersguy]

@gerrad1973 normally, you're right. the end-product of any soccer skill should be a goal. in this case, however, pele achieves immortality (at least as much as any mortal can). and immortality is the goal of the artist, at least in a romantic sense. further, in my opinion, we remember this particular play by pele particularly BECAUSE he misses. this flash of brilliance, is followed by a HUMAN mistake. i don't know the outcome of this particular game, but i will never forget this clip.

[7p7p7p7]

the quality is a bit dodgy

[7777ronaldo7777]

OMG you just downloaded this and reposted it!!!