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  • Thank you very much, you are a great instructor. You just fixed my upper body misalignment!

  • This hand trick on leg is a really good idea .. :) I can hardly wait to try it on my girlfriend, for I seem to have problems to accustom her with keeping her body forward.

    Thanks! :) and well done

  • @DraconisNL Hope it helps,pleased you like the films have a great holiday,

  • aaaa.. u stop just before the edge!! :O

  • I was paying attention on how you finish the turn, how much you bend your legs when going into the turn and the position of your upper body(facing forward). Awesome form. Very helpful. I'm a beginner.

  • @Frazzled2011 It's great to watch things before you try them, glad it's been helpful good luck with your skiing.

  • where´s your helmet mate?

  • Yup, good stuff but to the early intermediate skier I'd say *take care* and practice on a gentle piste, if you nail power carving turns like this you'll find you're absolutely flying within 75-100yds! :o0 Also avoid busy pistes, the number of times I've seen people sweep carve turns up into others in an attempt to loose speed isn't funny. So best completed on virgin/empty slopes IMHO. Also get in the gym before you go - this is a good exercise, from top2bottom it's gonna hurt ;o)

  • @MarketScoop Good advice certainly,try and stay on quiet runs and if you start to feel like a runaway train it may be too early for you to try and achieve turns like this. It will always help to be fit.thanks for your comments.

  • You're the best online ski instructor, thank you for sharing your technique. Definitely getting results on the slopes and its my first season! :)

  • @piratededition Great to hear that it helps when you get on the slopes keep watching and keep skiing thanks.

  • @piratededition Well said, I totally agree, my first season too and these techniques have helped me to the point where I am comfortable on blue runs now. Thank you for the great vids.

  • On my last day of my ski holiday I finally got this long turn legs together turn as I call it. But I did find it was only doable on runs that are not too steep otherwise you do go very fast like this .. for an Beginner turning intermediate, next time I hope to gain confidence skiing like this so I can go faster... !

  • @OurLucylocket When you are trying to improve your skiing it is best to stay on runs you feel comfortable with get the basics right and you will quickly find you will be skiing better. If you are intimidated you will develop bad habits enjoy your skiing

  • I'm missing French mountains! great video thanks for putting it out there. JM, Calgary

  • @jestermoon They are spectacular,glad you liked the films.

  • @jestermoon Don't worry its not much of a drop.

  • Is anyone else worried that he just might slip over the ledge behind him?

  • dont let your slope-sided skipole drag through the snow. It indicates a wrong positioning of your shoulders. The only pole that may drag through the snow is your valley-sided pole.

  • @hph304 It is a very different thing if the hand is dropping and dragging the pole to what you are seeing in this video, the pole is dragging because of the angles being created as a look at some videos of races skiing specially in giant slalom.

  • @elatemedia appreciate your answer. However, this is not a giant slalom skiing video but a training video. Some students will notice the dragging pole and copy that. With students this will most of the time result in a wrong shoulder position. Out of my own teaching experiences (mostly in Austria), you should be very careful with these things. It was just a hint from an instructor, the technique in this video is very good.

  • what mountain is this? it looks absolutely beautiful

  • @Hornet3O I'm skiing in Tignes which is the tarentaise in the French alps just next to val d'sere.

  • @elatemedia I agree this is Tignes (France) I got to know at these barriers against the avalanche :D. This route in the distance is probably Signal or Carline

  • As the slope gets steeper you need your upper body anticipated. In this situation the upper body is not lining up with you hips an knees and ankles.. loosing the stack position you are talking about..

  • @rfalagan Ultimately a good skier is versatile and produce right body position for the right situation hope you have a good season.

  • I've been teaching and coaching for many years and somehow never came across this exercise. I tried it and it works wonders (both for myself and my students). Thanks for the great videos and keep up the good work!

  • @nicolasphamdinh You would'nt have seen this exercise before as its somethng I experimented with whilst freeskiing without poles. I am pleased you like it, Ii is always good when other instructors give positive feedback. Have a good season, Darren

  • hold your sticks right next to you ,you seem to throw them

  • I came here looking for ideas to implement into my teaching. I find the stacked position is hard to teach effectively, as the common consensus is to teach it through short radius turns, in order to progress onto moguls etc. However, this lesson gave me an insight into an alternative method of teaching the stacked position, keep up the good work!

  • Guys this is not skying...this is carving...this has nothing to do with skying...

  • @Cassnet you're an idiot

  • Nice helmet...oh wait..

  • Finally! Someone who has a good technique not making a ´hey look at me I am a good skier with technique no one understand´ video. This is the way to show people how to improve there technique, understandable and a good example.

  • @laurensne Great praise indeed,I'm glad you like the videos it really makes a difference when we get good feedback like this thank you.

  • Not dab bit actually not perfect ;) there are many things which you cpuld do better ;)

  • @mr7sieben7 Would you like to elaborate

  • @elatemedia

    my english is not very good but i´ll try:

    I think there is not enough pressure on your outer-leg

    you could try to get your body´s center of gravity more over your outer-leg.

    the change of the edges could be more fast.

    the low body position is quite good for the sporty style

    and you´re upright that´s good

    i hope I was able to help you ;D

  • @elatemedia

    jo

  • Yes, but there are many things you could do better with your spelling.

  • F**k carving, learn to ski!

  • @voodoowood Skiing stacked is about being in a strong body position which applies to all skiing, including off-piste. Carving is just one component of skiing and we have series workshops introducing bumps, powder, off-piste coming soon that may interest you more.

  • @voodoowood carving is skiing ,what is wrong with you

  • Wear a helmet

  • @hugocampkini There seems to be a lot of confusion about this point. What you are describing would be fine for a short radius turn or a turn using a lot of foot rotation at the beginning. A skier making turns similar to the ones in the film will be in a stronger position letting their torso follow the skis slightly more. It will also allow them to use their ankles and knees more to influence the path of the skis.

  • @elatmedia thanks

  • Your torso is too slanted, it needs to stay vertical going directly down the slope to get the best technique... Better exercise would be to put your hand on your outside boot as you go round the corner with your other arm directly in front of you, its a more stable position and you can get a better edge on a shorter radius...

  • If this is advanced, then i'm an extreme pro

  • @KiterTMK A common misconception is that the higher the level of skier the more technical and complex the exercise has to be. This is not the case. This exercise involves timing and coordination and is regularly used with young races and trainee instructors.

  • cambia sport non sei uno sciatore

  • Where is he skiing?

  • @Pavlee021 This lesson was filmed in Tignes, France on Piste H (the run that starts from the Aeroski and ends in Val Claret). Most of our other ski films are from Serre Chevalier in the Southern Alps of France.

  • Definitely not advanced - look at the way he leans into the mountain when he stops.Not enough angulation either. Disappointing!!

  • Instructive indeed, and very effective in delearning any rests of old long-ski technique (soft ski, sport ski etc).

    Plus a professional, focused instruction.

  • @YogisAAA Thanks YogisAAA. Hope you have a great season's skiing.

  • @elatedmedia I wasnt trying to be obnoxious its just that in my book, you have Beginning skills, intermediate and expert/advanced skills. In "advanced" or expert, you are learning skills used in the bumps, steeps and powder sections. If you do not know the intermediate skills shown in this video, then bumps, steeps and powder are going to be very difficult. Hence, it is intermediate. IMHO

  • I do not agree with what you say here

    It's much more stabile to have you upper body always facing downhill, and always being in a vertical line!

    Try to let the legs work, nothing has to move except for the legs...

    There should be angulation between your upper body and legs: |

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    you're hip should be touching the snow

    like in this pic: farm4[DOT]static[DOT]flickr[DO­T]com[SLASH]3338[SLASH]3571018­269_86098648cc[DOT]jpg

    it's a lil bit extreme, but that is really how it should be

  • @eSKape1994 If we were talking about short turns you're bang on. Search youtube for a video called "Clean Carving" by cleancarve. Bear in mind that these are the best ski racers in the world. Watch the way the arm is following the outside ski. The chest is slightly turning, it doesn't remain facing downhill.

    I really like the photo, its a brilliant photo of a ski racer, but that isn't really the point of this video.

  • @elatemedia yep

    but what are short and long turns ? =P

    for me short is radius 13 skis, long is SG=33 m

    I agree that for the long turns, a small rotation will be made

    but if you do not rotate your upper body, or even rotate it away (from the imaginary gate), I think you can go much extremer (deeper= more power = faster) than with rotating

    but ofc, it depends on what you would like to become and surplus, I'm not a teacher orsm, I'm just a skier ^^

  • @eSKape1994 You're describing beginner technique to counteract rotation. While it's an ok starting point, too much counter-rotation limits your ability to edge/pivot and puts you in a weak structural position. IE you'll collapse as pressure increases. In more advanced skiing, your body upper body should follow the direction of momentum. Including in short radius. It's smooth, not abrupt.

    "Stacking" also refers to fore-aft balance planes and lateral balance planes, not just rotational.

  • @DavidSkis Following too much through the bottom of the turn is old school. Except for the steepest terrain you should focus on moving ( slightly ) your upper body into the fall line during the turn transition. In slalom turns we should be able to see your whole upper torso if we were looking directly up the fall line to the skier.

  • I don't know if I would call this advanced. More like Intermediate skills.

  • @Mooseshagger1 Thanks for posting Mooseshagger1. One man's intermediate is another man's advanced... it's always hard to categorise these things, we would argue that an average holiday skier who maybe skis a week a year, if that, is going to see this as an advanced ski technique. We have some "expert" lessons coming - though they might be merely "advanced" for you!

  • Slightly shown up by the pisteur skiing behind you at the 3:19 mark :P

  • @InsomniacGoose ...last one to the bar gets the Genepi in!

  • you are nowere near stack dude lean befor you make a vid on it you suck at putting skiing in to words and that is terrible for being stacked

  • this guy is posing too much ski a tiny bit more natural and you should be awnsome

  • @ProSkiSnow Thanks for the post ProSkiSnow. Remember that i this is a demo, so it's never going to look as natural as free-skiing.

  • Excelent movie and nice technic.

  • @ScubaCupid Thanks ScubaCupid, counting to the days to the ski season now, it's not far away!

  • @ScubaCupid *excellent & *technique

  • Good exercise! I like the way the use of both hands are demonstrated. If the outside hand is following the outside ski and the inside hand is placed properly, then over rotation of the torso cannot occur thus twisting or rotaing the skis off their edges. I also like the "flow" aspect you mention, the smooth transition of the hand placement that is. Longer radius turns require smoother flowing movements just as short turns require smooth but quick movements. I will use this drill this winter!

  • @jimidee33 thanks jimidee33, glad to be of help. Have a great ski season!

  • is this in val di sere?

  • @keeperkid8294 Hi Keeperkid. It's filmed on Piste H in Tignes (the run that starts from the Aeroski and ends in Val Claret), so you're not far off!

  • @elatemedia I recognised it ! one of my favourite runs although I have never seen it so empty! PS. your goggles are awesome

  • @mikeswbr Hi Mike, my goggles say thanks. This was filmed in early December last year so that's why it was quiet. I see you're in the UK, if you're in London come and say hi at the Ski Show this week - our stand is C12!

  • @USColt54

    you are right: The smart skiers always use helmet

    only exception are race-coaches who are working on a SG or DH track, they have to hear the skiers coming ;-)

  • @eSKape1994 Thanks for your comments guys. We do agree that helmets are advisable, and for that reason in all video that we've filmed since January 2011 Darren will be wearing a helmet, (though archive video filmed before this that we upload may feature Darren without one).

    We do however also believe that it should be a matter of personal choice (except for kids!).

  • hey great drill, a skier with a tendancy to over separate at times this will help me square up to my skis, many thanks.

  • @iamikeski Glad to be of use iamikeski, keep an eye out this autumn as there is a lot of new content being prepared right now... have a great summer!

  • where do you buy stockli skis ive got a second hand pair but i want to know where they are available to buy brand new in australia as they are a excellent ski

  • Where is it??? aspen?

  • definately the best carving lesson on youtube i've seen! im going up in a few weeks! ill be keeping your tips in mind!

  • @belliceNH Thanks belliceNH. Where will you be skiing? Looks like New Zealand is having a bad start to the winter, how is it in Australia?

  • @elatemedia it was the best opening to the season since 2000! theres an average snow depth of 27cm at mt buller, mt hothams a bit less but expecting more :) i'm going to mt hotham. we are members of a ski lodge up there :)

  • @belliceNH Went to a few parties of those lodges back in '97! Have fun.

  • Good job!

    Too bad it's 100 degrees today... :)

  • @wwlutherie Wish it was in London... thunder, lightning and pouring rain here!

  • sick vid, i like the way you teach

  • @mskatesnow Thanks, have a great summer!

  • best vid on carving so far

  • @shadley35 Thanks shadley35! Much appreciated. This lesson will help you with your carving, but it will also help with skiing different snow conditions and off piste skiing too. Checked out your channel and saw that you're keeping up the skiing through the summer indoors, stay with it and you'll rip next winter!

  • where about are you

  • @MRswavgav Hi there, Darren is based in a ski resort called Serre Chevalier in France, although this video is filmed in another french ski resort called Tignes.

  • I bought the advanced ski app at the beginning of last season and its great. I was just wondering if you were going to follow it up with one based on freestyle skiing, or is that not something your into? Its just I've never attended a ski school which covers that area of skiing. Thanks.

  • @MrAndrewHay Hi Andrew. Darren isn't much of a freestyler, but he does rip it up off-piste. As a company we're from a mix of ski instruction, big mountain competition and freestyle backgrounds so we're definitely passionate about all aspects of skiing and are looking at all sorts of options for the future.

  • ur a shit skier.

  • @ownageman1000 ...and you're a good troll?

  • thanks for the videos, they're great. It's autumn right now and it's good to have these reminders while i wait for the ski season haha

  • @oooohla123 Lucky so and so, our ski season is ending over here... where do you ski in Oz? Perisher? Thredbo? Hotham, falls or Buller?

  • @elatemedia That's true... I mostly ski in Perisher.

  • @oooohla123 Well here's hoping you have a great season for snow there, nothing cooler than skiing pow through snowgums with crimson rosellas flying overhead. OK, well maybe there are a few things cooler (like skiing powder in AK), but you can't do that in N. hemisphere summer!

  • @elatemedia skiing powder in AK, now that would be amazing! yes, hopefully I can do that in my summer :)

  • @oooohla123 Well do that and we'll be very envious. Hope you have a great ski in Oz this winter/summer!

  • sick goggles... currently looking for the same!

  • I would just like to express my gratitude for this video. I was skiing a few backs and discovered I was doing the opposite to what I should of been doing. This video has made me feel confident to try something new to benefit my technique. Thanks. Awesome tutorial. Thanks again.

  • @enuffskillz Thanks enuffskillz! It's really gratifying to get feedback like that, it makes all the hard work we put in worthwhile. Enjoy what's left of the ski season and keep an eye out for a lot of new and exciting skiing content coming to our channel in the next couple of weeks...

  • And I am still trying to figure out how to transition from wedge turns to parrallel turns. :)

  • @mdinmi0623 Hi there and thanks for your comment. If you're trying to ski parallel then check out some of our other videos on youtube - for instance the one titled "Intermediate Ski Lesson - Keeping Skis Parallel", or if you've got an iPhone, iPod touch or iPad, check out our "Ski School Intermediate" App on the App store. Enjoy what's left of the ski season!

  • Hey. I'm 13 and I want to be an extreme skier when I grow up just like Tanner Hall (hopefully you know who he is). But by the time he was 7 he could do a 360 and i only managed to do a 360 by the time I was 12. Do you think I'll ever be as good as him freeskiing?

  • @alextlbass Darren still wants to be an extreme skier but his wife won't let him, and back when he learnt 360s they were still called helis.

    As a 21 year old Londoner though you're a little late, but then again, nothing ventured...

    As for T-Dog, I'm pretty sure he was skiing rather well even before his first 360 - so piste technique ain't a bad place to start.

  • @elatemedia Thanks. I appreciate the advice :)

  • @alextlbass No worries!

  • Very good video, interesting about the stacked position. I took lessons with teachers for improving my technique, and this video is just the same...

  • @Mar1Popp1ns Thanks! Check out our other videos for more on skiing technique, and if you have an iPhone, iPod touch or iPad you might be interested in our "Ski School" apps on the app store. More skiing video content on the way to this ski channel later in the season...

  • Had a great ski instructor in canada a few years ago said the same as you with the arm position,he used to say like'leaning forward and hugging the bear!' so in the lesson he is shouting 'Hug the bear!' but to his credit he took my skiing to the next level.Exellent video thanks.... cheers james.

  • @57hartman Whatever works! A few less bears to hug in the Alps, maybe "hug the marmotte" could be a suitable metaphor for Europe (albeit a rather large one). Enjoy your skiing this winter!

  • Excellent video. Very clear with a good self tuition technique to develop the stacked position. Extremely useful. Thanks and congratulations!

  • @juliansmith1965 Thanks Julian, glad it's been useful. Have a great ski this winter!

  • nice jacket, what brand is it ?

  • @anf159 Hi anf159, the jacket is Arcteryx

  • It would be nice to have the location in the video info. Where was this filmed? Thanks.

  • @breathead I think we geotagged it, it was filmed in Tignes, France (the neighbouring resort to Val d'Isere) earlier this month.

  • @elatemedia Thanks! I'll look up info about that resort. If I ever ski there, I'll try to stay "stacked."

  • @elatemedia best thing is there is enough room to actually ski there in Australia theres almost no room in a good season especially during holidays theres almost zero chance for a beginner to practice on the slope and do turns like this guy is.

  • @m3rcinaries I don't know, I remember some great carving runs in Hotham back in the day - though granted there's not as much room as in the big euro resorts. Darren's exercise can equally be practiced at slower speeds than this though.

    It's pretty magical skiing powder in August between the snowgums with Crimson Rosellas flying overhead - you can't do that in Europe!

  • @elatemedia true although i'd much rather pine trees. never been to Hotham sounds like theres more room, you see i always go to Perisher and Smiggins but Smiggins when full of snow is by far better than Perisher less people but the runs aren't as wide.

  • Enhorabuenas

  • @JorgeViento Thanks Jorge!

  • @elatemedia

    Thank you for this video. Very Enlightening.

  • @Foxcanine1 Thanks!

  • nice job on these clips very well executed and clearly explained, was thinking about doing something similar but you have nailed it, keep em coming. Scott of InsideOutSkiing

  • @InsideOutSkiing Hi Scott, glad you enjoyed them. Don''t worry... there's plenty more where they came from!

    Merry Christmas!

  • Fantastic instructor, great job!

  • @gmax2it Yep, Darren is a darned good instructor, he also skis OK too! Keep an eye out, much more coming this winter...

  • Bardzo diękuję, ze zaproszenie. Fajnie, że są tacy ludzie jak ty. Pozdrawiam. Witek

    

  • Fantastic quality of the movie and what the most important is - modern carving style. Keep making the video lessons. Great job!

  • @smicha7 Glad you like it Smicha7, there are lots more videos coming over the winter - some will be technique clips (for all levels of skier) and some more general ski stuff, have a great season!!

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