@Portugal2100 Don't sweat it. WR means nothing in that age. The Hungarian boy who did all these amazing results ended up with a personal best of 65,22 before he quit, which is more than 20 meters from the world record that really matters - 7,26k WR.
Once u really understand the physics of hammer throwing, u'll appreciate that in realisty you can throw a 7.25kg the same distance as the 3kg - its a matter of understanding - Im lookin forward to seeing u in the olympics one day soon :-)
thanks! just that the counterweight of a 7k hammer is much greater than of a 3k hammer, so you'll need a completely different technique! I know now, when i throw almost the same distance with the 2kg heavier hammer!
TEchnically the weight of the hammer, in the physics of things, is actually neutral ! Beyone the initial inertia the hammer becomes weightless in the throw calculations - ! And with a lil imaginative thinking im sure u can easily rebalance the counter forces for the "non-existent" weight forces :-)
Yes it does BUT the force needed to raise it to that "weight" i.e the velocity at release is transient - as u have put that force into the throw u have already countered the force in normal physics - otherwise ud have fallen over already - think about it ! :-) familiarise urself with the total physics of the throw, the force inputs and balances and ull figure it out in no time - If u can hit 81 with 3g what re the forces involved ? Whats the ratio to the 7.25 ? :-)
You know, I'm having a hard time understanding this "the hammer weighs nothing at all" and english is not my mother tongue so it is hard as it is! Let me get this straight... The ratio to 7,26 is 2,42 but it's still just as weightless as the 3kg? Gotta admit it doesn't make sense! And even if it would, the WR with 7k wouldn't be farther than the 3k! Cmon....
This profile suggest u still in high school - if thats so then ask you Physics teachers about the mechanics and balistics issues -ull see that once the mathematics kicks in - the weight of the object, given an optimum release angle of say 45 degrees, is negligible, it took me a while to accept the concept --- the factors which influence the distance are the agnular release, the height of release and critically the speed of release -the rate of acceleration is perhaps the most critical factor
If the release weight of the hammer is 300 kg at point of release its already there - you have already countered that force as you work towards te point of release - If u look at the full physics of hammer throwing ull see that the weight of the hammer is not all that important given the forces involved - the weight of the hammer is negligible from say 5kgs to 7.25 kgs --- it requires a reater counterweight but if you cant do that then ull be pulled over anyways !
as with anything, It's easier to lift 5kg than 7.26kg. Even thoguh hammer throwing is a technique event, the technique is there for you to be able to use as much force as possible, and when the "what-ever-you-wanna-use-the-force-to" is leighter, it's easier.
I know. Though it's easier to raise your chest (As your body follows your heads movement) which is essential to perform a good counter. You better try it
I accidently moaned lol, I want people to ignore that, but some fucking Japanese just had to push it and sent several hate messages to me haha. Some people are just ignorant.
@Csioni Good :)
ohedd 1 year ago
Here is Portuguese kid with 13 Years Old and only 11 Month Training setting new 3KG U13 Portuguese Record.
/watch?v=ehFf2E5WZIE
Portugal2100 1 year ago
r u seriously fighting over a 3kg make a new video when ur throwing 8 kg
russian088 1 year ago
@russian088 I was 15 :P
ohedd 1 year ago
Hammer 4kg
11 - 54.18
12 - 65.86
13 - 73.43
14 - 83.03
Portugal2100 1 year ago
@Portugal2100 all thous record s are WR
SuperMetsamees 11 months ago
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Portugal2100 1 year ago
Hi people!
Can someone help me where I can get all time best results for boys from 12 to 15 Years old for 3/4 and 5kg hammer?
What was your best when with 13 Years old for 3 and 4Kg Hammer?
Portugal2100 1 year ago
WR:
12 years old - 62,75 3kg & 54,18 4kg & 41,90 5kg
13 years old - 70,72 3kg & 65,86 4kg & 57,83 5kg
14 years old - 73,43 4kg & 62,97 5kg
15 years old - 85,17 4kg & 77,74 5kg
All done by Sandor Palhegyi, Hungary
My best at age 13 was 49,25 3kg on competition, but no 4kg result on competition
ohedd 1 year ago
@ohedd WOW! THANKS! I can't find any site with international results but thanks.
I was at Hungary Federation site Yesterday to see some results there.
We have a kid here in Portugal that Yesterday beat Portuguese U13 Boys Record with 55.60 (3kg) it is far away from WR but I think it is a nice result.
Portugal2100 1 year ago
@Portugal2100 Don't sweat it. WR means nothing in that age. The Hungarian boy who did all these amazing results ended up with a personal best of 65,22 before he quit, which is more than 20 meters from the world record that really matters - 7,26k WR.
ohedd 1 year ago
@ohedd Yes, you are right, but there are too big names that were very good with that ages and the opposite too.
I have find out few minutes ago a list done by Dominique Eisold in 2003 with this results:
Portugal2100 1 year ago
@Portugal2100 So what is he throwing now?
ohedd 1 year ago
@ohedd Do you mean Sandor? If you said he is quit already, ZERO! Lol
You are right about that records at this age means nothing.
bye!!
Portugal2100 1 year ago
Youri Sedykh Throwed 5 kg Hammer 105 meters, 6 kg hammer 95 meters and 7.26 kg hammer 86.74.
Enough said!
BetterMagic 2 years ago
Ok? I'm allergic to grass.
ohedd 2 years ago
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H3XZOc 2 years ago
1: threw
2: Youri Sedykh was not 15
3: we knew
Reathalack 2 years ago
Once u really understand the physics of hammer throwing, u'll appreciate that in realisty you can throw a 7.25kg the same distance as the 3kg - its a matter of understanding - Im lookin forward to seeing u in the olympics one day soon :-)
Project9000mm 2 years ago
thanks! just that the counterweight of a 7k hammer is much greater than of a 3k hammer, so you'll need a completely different technique! I know now, when i throw almost the same distance with the 2kg heavier hammer!
ohedd 2 years ago
TEchnically the weight of the hammer, in the physics of things, is actually neutral ! Beyone the initial inertia the hammer becomes weightless in the throw calculations - ! And with a lil imaginative thinking im sure u can easily rebalance the counter forces for the "non-existent" weight forces :-)
Project9000mm 2 years ago
The hammer weighs 300k in the release of an 80m throw with 7,26k hammer!
ohedd 2 years ago
Yes it does BUT the force needed to raise it to that "weight" i.e the velocity at release is transient - as u have put that force into the throw u have already countered the force in normal physics - otherwise ud have fallen over already - think about it ! :-) familiarise urself with the total physics of the throw, the force inputs and balances and ull figure it out in no time - If u can hit 81 with 3g what re the forces involved ? Whats the ratio to the 7.25 ? :-)
Project9000mm 2 years ago
You know, I'm having a hard time understanding this "the hammer weighs nothing at all" and english is not my mother tongue so it is hard as it is! Let me get this straight... The ratio to 7,26 is 2,42 but it's still just as weightless as the 3kg? Gotta admit it doesn't make sense! And even if it would, the WR with 7k wouldn't be farther than the 3k! Cmon....
ohedd 2 years ago
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H3XZOc 2 years ago
This profile suggest u still in high school - if thats so then ask you Physics teachers about the mechanics and balistics issues -ull see that once the mathematics kicks in - the weight of the object, given an optimum release angle of say 45 degrees, is negligible, it took me a while to accept the concept --- the factors which influence the distance are the agnular release, the height of release and critically the speed of release -the rate of acceleration is perhaps the most critical factor
Project9000mm 2 years ago
Ah right ur 24 and the 81 m guy is 15 - DUH --- disregard comments about physics teachers then !!!!
Project9000mm 2 years ago
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H3XZOc 2 years ago
Hi - what dont u understand about what Ive already said ?
Project9000mm 2 years ago
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H3XZOc 2 years ago
If the release weight of the hammer is 300 kg at point of release its already there - you have already countered that force as you work towards te point of release - If u look at the full physics of hammer throwing ull see that the weight of the hammer is not all that important given the forces involved - the weight of the hammer is negligible from say 5kgs to 7.25 kgs --- it requires a reater counterweight but if you cant do that then ull be pulled over anyways !
Project9000mm 2 years ago
as with anything, It's easier to lift 5kg than 7.26kg. Even thoguh hammer throwing is a technique event, the technique is there for you to be able to use as much force as possible, and when the "what-ever-you-wanna-use-the-force-to" is leighter, it's easier.
Reathalack 2 years ago
laying your head back does not increase radius
jmm121884 2 years ago
I know. Though it's easier to raise your chest (As your body follows your heads movement) which is essential to perform a good counter. You better try it
ohedd 2 years ago
didnt even know they had 3k hammers
kbow112 3 years ago
just for little people.
ohedd 3 years ago
3kg hammers is for 12-13 yr old boys and 14-15 year old girls
Reathalack 3 years ago
im so jealous of how good you are at such a young age. i really wish i started when i was younger. Good luck with everything!
cbouts519 3 years ago
hey the moan isnt that bad...jeje
its just that it wasnt a yield ...
you should scream.....
but anyways it is everyone's decition
pecrima02 3 years ago
I accidently moaned lol, I want people to ignore that, but some fucking Japanese just had to push it and sent several hate messages to me haha. Some people are just ignorant.
ohedd 3 years ago
seriously...jeje ....
the people who dont know nothing about hammer and talk about it are just hilarious...
pecrima02 3 years ago
i threw a 3k today, its so light! really works on your timing.
jmm121884 3 years ago
nice throw :)
niggaemoka 4 years ago
thanks ;)
ohedd 4 years ago
Otroligt att du hanterar den vikten! Fint kast!
olivercarlehed 4 years ago