Special promotion! Free Memawuy yirdaki! Didgeridoo!

[Combinia]

cool didge!

[Cre8iveSignWorks]

in response to your comments in the description colom....

i know a full blood aboriginal who is very famous and makes his own didges out of pine and paints them to sell as souvineers worldwide.

i dont have a problem at all with this as long as the buyers are aware that there are different types of didges made for souvineers and ones way better for playing.

i make my own agave didges and only plan on selling them with my original designs and without competition to aboriginal style didges).

[ididjaustralia]

@Cre8iveSignWorks cool buddy, and who is the aboriginal didgeridoo maker you speak of?

[Cre8iveSignWorks]

@ididjaustralia

im not sure i should say publicly (as ive just met him and dont know his situation)

but he lives in perth and is a very famous artist and didge player here and overseas.

(id be happy to tell you privately).

[didgetc]

beautiful style, beautiful instrument!!!! really lova the sound in this video.

[sonofthedestroyer]

A nice slow expressive technique!

[GusMyers]

Great traditional player, that´s the stuff I like!

Thank you++++++

[t0asty2]

great playing!

[suleimanfbi]

sweet!~

[Booshibonton]

wow, talent.....

[felipearizathomas]

just to say hello from de other side of the wrold, down here in Argentina. i dont need to say how i admire these didj players. the can bring you peace and hope by playiong these beatiful instrument which is the soul of the Earth. i ve playing for 2 months now and i have realized that i haved developed sort of connection with my didj. y certanily love it. see you soon! keep it up!

[harsveld]

please embed this!

[Sesshomaru132]

AAAAAAAASSSSSSSSSOOOOOMMMMMMME­EEE 5/5 stars

[seapoidog]

And their will always be blissfully ignorant idiots buying their crap. But, true seekers of real cultural food, music, and PEOPLE will always find it.

[seapoidog]

If there were restrictions and regulations, people would find their way around it. I grew up in the one of the biggest tourist destinations in the world, Hawai'i, a five minute walk from Waikiki. Waikiki has nothing to do with the culture of Hawaiians, or even of the modern cultural mix. There will always be assholes exploiting beautiful culture peddling their trinkets and "instruments" for personal monetary gain.

[seapoidog]

I must say i believe in laissez-faire (let do). In other words, let the free market economy take care of it. Regulations by the government would not help. We all know that Aboriginal people cannot trust the Australian government. No one should trust a bunch of strangers anyway.

[Lumpenproli]

It's amazing!

Lumpenp ( from Hungary)

[ididjaustralia]

thanks everyon for participating and commenting. after much thought i've decided this beaut memawuy yirdaki will go to kdidj for his focussed thoughts. good stuff mate.

feel free to keep commenting, and pls be civil every1

[didgNdrums]

I think the didgeridoo should not be called true aborigini. Could I buy one from you?

[stockie22]

Why should it not be called true aborigini as it quiet clearlly is as they invented it thats like saying the phone or kilt isnt scottish or Sushi isnt japanees or hoover isnt american its a silly thing to say

[didgNdrums]

Ummmm.....how do you know who made it dip shit? Isnt that the big question here?! PAY ATTENTION!!!!!!! Its my fuckin opinion...

[stockie22]

DidgNDrums why should it notbe called aborigini they invented the thing thats like saying the phone and kilt arnt Scotish, Sushi isnt japanees or the alpine horn came from the Andes or that President Bush has intelectual inteligence its a silly thing to say

[didgNdrums]

Did you not read the description?!?! Its to the right, just so you know! He opened this video to start a discussion on a didgeridoo he found in a shop down there. No one knows who painted it, made it, nothing. For all you know my friend Red, that plays didge on the streets in Australia could have made it, and he's american. Are you starting to get it now?! Huh?! Are ya?! Goood boy...

[stockie22]

no need to take such affence matey boy you typed THE DIDGERIDOO which to me interprited as general didge and as the initial question is relating to the didge generaly then i think you need to get it now not me the whloe discussion is are didges from all over claassed as aborigional not just that one in the particular shop and you are still silly

[stockie22]

Oh and as a quick PS to this from the 2 replys you just made you have serious issues and need some anger management sort it out mate read it again and get back to me eh theres a nice boy (and please dont sware its not big and certinally not clever)

[wolfhardo]

I would have there a new topic for discussion. What is your experience with the traditional playing style? I am occupied for approx. 10 years with it and it is a great feeling to practice it.

[bubo1972]

Hi everyone!!! Ijust want to drop a line to give my support to the aboriginal people of Australia and hope that every didge fan will give support buying exclusively authentic Aboriginal didges in order to support the communities helping their culture to stay alive and Dreaming.

[wolfhardo]

Now we are all together. My difficulty is my english, so that I sometimes don't understand the right meaning of the comments and I have a problem, to bring my real intention with the right words. Stocky, excuse me if if I should have concerned you. Lets join us to bring the spirit of yidaki to everybody.

[stockie22]

And Pageantthebone you have hit the nail on the head with my other point it is down to education and co opereation from everyone in the didge world and I think it has to start with us (I know I do my part) and I think everyone in some way does theirs we just need to be pro active and forward thinking with the way we do it

[didgNdrums]

I keep getting e mails saying you replied but I dont see them on here anywehre. Somethings messed up or he's deleting them, I dunno which one. But I guess thats the end of the discussion?

[pactuba]

didgNdrums, Just so we're clear, the didjeridu in this video was in fact made by an indigenous Australian. Memawuy Munyarryun of the Wangurri clan from Arnhem Land to be precise, as the video title indicates. Guan's comments about knock off didjs in a souvenir shop to the right are intended as springboards for discussion, and don't refer to this particular instrument, as you would know if you read the whole description. Let's try to keep it civil shall we...

[stockie22]

Thanks pactuba lets keep it civil here and appologies for any hert caused by any comments made here.

[johnberton]

It is up to all of us everyone that has read, or posted the comments on this video should help inform people of their choices. As a whole community we need to stop the people out to make money off the aborinals. That would be to inform the customer that would be buying from them. I know that every person won't get to hear this message, and I don't think "faking" aborininal didgeridoos will ever stop, but I think we can help.

[stockie22]

Hi Johnberton this is totally my point and also wolfhardo you are educating people by talking about it here and when I say educate I dont mean in a class situation just a conversation on any subject around a dinner table is education

[wolfhardo]

Hi stockie sorry I would not like to educate anybody, this is not my intention. I told only about my experiences, when I was in Darwin and looked for a yidaki. T coundn't find a really good one. This is all what I wanted to say.

[wolfhardo]

Hi stockie, I can accept your arguments but what you think about all these instruments like in Darwin, which are offered for authentic didges made by aboriginals but only usefully for tourism? Will you give this informations by radio or newspaper? I think, this is impossible. So the most of them will buy such an instrument without noticing, that it is not worth anything.

[stockie22]

Hi Wolfhardo, how do you go about pursuading the traders in Darwin, Adelade, Melbourne, Sydney Alice etc etc to sign up for this and then police itas for what ever reason they wouldnt thats why you need to educate everyione especially the end user and maker and I would tell newspapers and radio

[wolfhardo]

Who knows outside of Australia of the culture of the aboriginal peoples? Who wants to educate buyers to buy only authentic Didgeridoos? I mean, we can only explane the difference. The decision is with the buyer. Only he has to decide whether a not authentic instrument makes him happy.

[stockie22]

Wolfhardo you do have a point on this but if they think its authentic and its not then they dont have an informed choice they are just parting with there cash

[stockie22]

Part 2 Also to get a labeling standard would be a mamouth task as you would need to get the cooperation of all or majority of makers to sign up for it to be able to police it (a trade organisation if you like such as lawyers accountants etc) and this takes both time and money.

[stockie22]

part 3, I think the only succesful way (and working in PR/radio it works) is to get word of mouth out there informing and educationg people to this through sites like Guans and telling your friends if they go on holls to Auz then tehy can spread the word as well word of mouth is a powerfull and affective educational tol

[johnberton]

I think the only way to change what is happening is to educate the buyer. When someone buys a non-aboriginal didgeridoo. The maker sees he can make money by lying about the authenticity and quality of the didgeridoo. The sellers are only thinking about money. People's actions shouldn't be directed only toward making money; they should be directed toward happiness, without hurting anyone else in the process.

[wolfhardo]

in Germany only few people know Guans site. If somebody looks for purchasing a yidaki, he will search by google. But you can't find ididj there under keewords like didgeridoo. With a sponsored link it is possible, that a site will be posted at first position.

So a purchaser comes to ididj and becomes all the informations he need.

[wolfhardo]

I think that experienced players have to show to a beginner the difference between a really good yidaki and a pretty designed didge. When Djalu was in Germany in 2002 he requested me: tell your people about the aboriginal culture and about the traditional style on yidaki. Its our task to bring it in the world that beginner see the difference and the origin.

[johnberton]

Even if the CI index is enforced there will still be people that claim their didgeridoos are authentic and aboriginal made when they are not. It will be the same it is now just saying it in a different way. A CI 4 didgeridoo you find might not actually be CI 4, just like a aboriginal made didgeridoo might not be made by and aboriginal person, when it is claiming to be.

[wolfhardo]

part 2 of my comment:

A purchaser in Darwin is made believe, that he will get a real yidaki but a good yidaki player will recognice quickly the bad quality. There must be a specialist like Guan who classified these instruments and here I think beginns the problem.

When specialists like Guan will label all these Didgeridoos, then I think the business will collaps.

[wolfhardo]

What you will do with a labeling system for example in Darwin. There you can get a lot of Didgeridoos or "yidakis". I was there an I found only one Didge and this was made by a white man. All the other "original" instruments were offered as made by aboriginal peoples with wunderful paintings but you can forget them. They are made for tourism.

[wolfhardo]

who will give the standards so, that all salesmen will accept them? I think it will be very difficult. How can a labeling system works in your opinion?

[wolfhardo]

I think, that the discriptions and the sound samples of the Yidakis on Guans site give enough informations for purchase decision, so that we don't need a labeling system. Hear and feel the sound, this is all we need.

[stockie22]

Part 2

To me a maker of didgeridoos in NSW is just as authentic as one made in the Top End however is it origional and that is another question of origine. I can make a split didge here and its authentic to me just not origional

[stockie22]

Guan I find these clips very inspiring to my playing..When it comes to authenticity I think european players have a slightly different out look to authenticity. I feel it is really down to individual interpritation from all aspects from maker, seller and eventually the end user of anything. I liken it to antiques you get old copies but they are not origional but culturally can be just as important as the origional.

[didgemanplayer]

Guan at idij is a very good person willing to work with you to fing the perfect didj for you. And I think ididj is one fo the very few web sites that actually sell authentic didges.

[imarkmeanings]

When I get good enough, I'd carry both it and my guitar around and play it for whoever would listen. This would be a great way to promote authentic didges.

Take care -- I love your YouTube site. Keep those videos coming!

[imarkmeanings]

Part 3:

So -- if I could actually HAVE a real didge, I'd definitely promote it. There is nothing, nothing, NOTHING like the sound of an authentic didge. The PVC didge that I have is ok, but it's missing the organic and grounded sound that an authentic didge has.

[imarkmeanings]

Part 2:

I can't agree with you more about the need for authentic didges. I had no idea that so many of them were "fake" (i.e., not from australia). I decided long ago that the only "real" didge I'd ever have is an authentic one.

[imarkmeanings]

Part 1:

Hello -- I just posted a video response. I uploaded my video before I'd found your site. I'm very happy to see and hear all the great didges! I read your message about the promotion and decided to respond.

[fan1hannahmontana]

okkkkk? wtf?

[hansbrucki]

It is my second comment. We can help the people and the Aboriginal culture, buying only from them. They have to label the Yidaki. But we cannot really change the world with all the problems, but give a vision. Burning the copies would be a sign.

[ididjaustralia]

Thanks for your comments. Unity and solidarity! Peace brother.

[mtyidaki]

Hi Guan, as I told you I´m in Peru at the moment but couldn´t resist checking your page(s) (it´s raining and the internet is for free;-) Beuatifull!!!

Cheers Michiel

[Yankadee]

i play didgeridoo for about 10 years and yidaki for about 3 years. beginning by djalu he was 2002 in eisenbach/germany. have a nice time Yankadee

[ididjaustralia]

i would have met u in eisenbach in 2002... did you see some videos here of the Rripangu Yirdaki Festival? Cheers

[wolfhardo]

Hello Guan, yes we had met us in Eisenbach and it was great. I would like to meet Djalu and his clan, Milkay and last but not least you again. Cheers Wolfhard

[wolfhardo]

Hi Guan,

I have found the video clips of Rripangu Yirdaki Festival here on You Tube and there I could see my didge-friend Guido at the beginning in on of the clips, great stuff!!! I think, that the clip is made during the first week of the festival and I was there in the second week.

[hansbrucki]

Wolfhardo,the last person with text is my teacher only for one day. He gave me the adress of your page.I learned by the CD from Milkay and Wolfhardo. But that is only the beginning. The video of the free yidaki is great and shows, what is possibel.A yidaki-fan of germany hansbrucki.

[wolfhardo]

I play Yidaki and traditional style for about 10 years and I've learnd it from Milkay, Djalu and Larry. They are the very best player I know. I think the Memawuy Yidaki, wich is offered for free, is also an outstanding yidaki like all the other yidakis from Ididj. I bought a Yumutjin-Yidaki last year from Ididj and it is also really great. Tank you!! Kind regards from Germany, Wolfhard

[ididjaustralia]

Hello Wolfhard, great to see you on YouTube! Thanks for your comments :-)

[joey0028]

i just love the didge, check out my video i took yesterday

[bee4tree]

Sometimes the discussion reminds me of the "Cassis de Dijon" case, like Swiss cheese factories(!) clinging to their "Emmentaler". But that's mainly a defensive strategy to monopolize profits. Who's concerned about the drinks inherent quality, its roots in a local Community, how it's connected to people's life? Isolated as a consumable good, it has lost most of its vital meanings, is standardized and thus without soul.

[ididjaustralia]

interesting comments!

[rawfoodguy]

When I started playing an agave didg I didn't know what Aboriginal meant. Years later I am honored to have a Burrngupurrngu inspiring me daily. The didg is an ambassador introducing millions to Aboriginal culture many who come to share my experience. Yes there are ethical issues but I don't think you can force respect. The didg however can inspire it. There may be more people who respect Aboriginal people now than ever thanks to worldwide exposure, good and bad, to the didgeridoo.

[ididjaustralia]

new venue is announced to the right!

[ididjaustralia]

I've created a new venue to bring this discussion to... will make an announcement when it is all checked and finalised!

[iDIDJUK]

I believe we are all custodians on this earth, some gather possessions and express anger should someone steal what they believed was theirs. We live in a culture where copying intellectual rights, music, tecnology seems par for the course. Yet, what of the sacred beliefs of the Yolngu, their sacred art, their mythology, to copy such design is akin to someone committing burglary in your home and pi**ing in your fridge - respect comes from understanding and awareness will free us all.

[ididjaustralia]

Yup, I'll second respect, understanding and awareness!

[mackyidhaky]

In my country is the same problem with the Aboriginal Culture, i think in real laws and rights... This problem is real in all the countries.

In a site of Indonesia said: DIDGERIDOOS painted for an Indonesian artist trained by an Australian Aborigen... WHAT !!!! LIES !

First see Klan, Artist, Bio, real Pics, after this you can said: Yeah this is an artist, yeah this is a yidaki.

Regards to all the Artist in Ididj Australia and Guan for the good work

Here

Mack Yidhaky

[ididjaustralia]

Thanks buddy!

[mackyidhaky]

Is no possible a explotation of aboriginal art too, please STOP the "dark $ machine".

What is the next step?... Please respect.

What is a good way for stop this problem ?.

Mmmm, the problem is the ignorance, didgeridoo spaces in the virtual world is a good way, you work Guan is the way, a good way.

[AlexRawlings]

What agreat way to get people interested in the cultural ethics surrounding our favourite instrument. This is also some great playing by Larry. Is he playing specific pieces in these vids or is he just jamming ? If you have any info on that I would be interested.

[ididjaustralia]

Most of it is jamming, but occasionally Larry plays proper song subjects like Marurrumburr (Native Cat), or West Wind etc.

[ididjaustralia]

AND you can also chose any didgeridoo that is available in the iDIDJ Store and I will send it to you free of charge. I'll pay for freight too :-) 'Hard verifiable evidence' doesn't mean so and so said this or that either. It means literature references or information from experts in their field, whether it is history, anthropology, archaeology, ethnography, geography...

[flyangler18]

See my comments in the discussion group

[ididjaustralia]

I'd like to add something to this promotion, which is if anyone can come up with hard verifiable evidence that the didgeridoo existed in Queensland, the Torres Strait Islands, New South Wales, Victoria, Tasmania or South Australia for a considerable time depth and that it continues to exist as an unbroken traditional Aboriginal musical tradition to the present day in any of those places, I will give you AUD$2000 to be transferred by Paypal immediately.

[ididjaustralia]

Some other things... most people would know where I am coming from with this campaign. But this isn't about repeating what I have said or written about on this subject matter, or about my fascination for all things traditional. It is about being surprised by CRITICAL THINKING. So put on your thinking caps and surprise me!

[fioredidj]

great work Guan,

Greetings from Italy

[HanoumanAtlas]

nice work bros,

next time maby you can oganize somme copetition so i get anny chances,

i wake up too late ....

respect,

Atlas

[ididjaustralia]

You have 1 month for this one :-)

[didgedad]

Thanks Guan for another great yirdaki. And all the others you let us hear and see on you tube. The didgeridoo, i think, comes mainly from the far north of Australia. (Darwin - Top End). A didgeridoo made by indigenous people is authentic. As i know only the GALPU from NE Arnhemland are the guardians of the yirdaki.

[kdidj]

Does a didgeridoo that was made and/or painted by any Australian Indigenous person qualify as authentic?

This is an interesting question as any answers are dependent upon how one defines 'didgeridoo' and 'authentic'. Please see my comments in the discussion group...

[ididjaustralia]

Yes, good point and a good start to getting into the nitty gritty of the discussion :-)

[dcszabi]

The didjeridu came from northern australia (topEnd)Arnhem land and later expanded on the continent...

I think that every didjeridu made by an aboriginal is authentic, but The custodians of the yirdaki is belongs to the galpu clan from NE ARNHEM LAND

[mahoran]

Very nice idea from Guan to sparkle such a discussion. Cheers

[dcszabi]

I hope to be the first to win this great yirdaki

[ididjaustralia]

It isn't about being the first... see previous comment.

[dcszabi]

Yes I know guan, I was just happy for the chance to win....8(

[dcszabi]

I look forward to get my latitj2 mago....

[dcszabi]

another great instrument for free

thanks Guan for the chance 8)

[dcszabi]

I hope be the first8)