@angelanamraka it is not easy to get this version in the internet (pirated version), because it is not as popular as the original ones sung by Sam Hui and Huang Zhan. this version u heard in this clip can be found in the original album/soundtrack. the name of the song is 沧海一声笑 (cānghǎi yīshēng xiào), originally written by 黄沾 (Huáng Zhān). there are at least 4 mainstream original versions to the song that are more popular (among the males).
@mrrojntshavhmoob what ever makes you sleep at night. they are catonese.. straight up enemys.. hmong only got 4 sects. catonese and madarian rule the world.. qing and jin are now in burma the world is rule by rebels
@princejmye Because these people that starts at 1:00 are hmong, the way they dresses (most noticeable is the hat) and the huge flute they play (called Qeej), a traditional hmong woodwind instrument.
@Saeng1021 The Hmong have nothing to do with the Chinese, ethnically speaking. They are as different from Chinese as they are from the Japanese...or the French. There is practically no relation at all, other than that the CCP forcefully coerced the term "Chinese" on them. Ethnic Chinese are called "Han" and was originally a northeastern asian group whereas Hmong is indigenous to the south and their language related to southeast asian languages.
originally a northeastern asian group? that's not true. Chinese is a mixture of people from all regions of China. The Chinese language itself is related to southeast Asian languages.
@niamtxiv No, that is simply wrong. I'm not talking about the Chinese Communist Party's definition of the Chinese nationality. I'm talking about the ethnic-linguistic identity of the people responsible for the building of the ANCIENT Chinese civilization. These people are of a very very SPECIFIC ethnic identity: the Hans. The Hans are descendants of the older tribal Huaxia, and are a mixture of the Huaxia tribes along the Yellow River and the Northeastern Dongyi.
@niamtxiv The Yellow river is quite northerly located. Just because the Huaxia expanded and MOVED west and south does not mean they are a mixture of the indigenous people they came in contact with. For most of Chinese history, the Huaxia DISPLACED the indigenous populations, not mixed with them. Chinese language is part of the Sino-Tibetan Language family and this family is completely UNRELATED to the Austric language family (southeast asian languages). They are completely different.
@niamtxiv If you are referring to Sino-Tibetan's relation with Tai-Kradai languages, this had not been univerally accepted by all linguists. Burman and Tibetan are less "southeast asian" in origin than they are Himalayan in origin.
@niamtxiv in other words, the ancestor language to all Sino-Tibetan languages may have had a "west asian" place of origin, not southeast. In fact recent studies posit that Sino-tibetan may share a clade with central asian, siberian and north cauacsian (not to be confused with "caucasian race," which speak indo-european) language families. By the time the Old Chinese language took shape, it was spoken by a people located in the north of China.
@gariadara Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote. I say they were hmong chinese as in hmong who live in china and speaks the language. This doesn't mean they are chinese. Hmong are their own ethic group which is why they are not call chinese.
@Saeng1021 I said that Hmong have nothing to do with the Chinese race ETHNICALLY speaking. I specifically made that distinction. I thought that was clear. Sorry for any confusion.
@Saeng1021 oh it relates. The term Hmong Chinese is not a good term to use generally. Hmong Minority is a better term and avoids confusion as it only takes into consideration the geopolitical aspect of the Hmong in China and leaves any perceived ethnic relation with Han-Chinese out.
@gariadara For example if there were hmong in japan, I would call them hmong japanese, not japanese. Of course this does not mean they are related to japanese people in any way.
Only Americans do this thing where they insert the ethnic identifier before the country of citizenship. This is okay because America is not a nation-ethnicity. Both China and Japan are. Those are places where the name of the nation is also the name of the ethnic group that founded the nation. The Japanese themselves would not refer to a Hmong living amongst them as any sort of "Japanese." Not until he adopts a Japonic name, taking up the Japanese (Yamato) ethnic identity.
@gariadara Not just only is it an american thing but even the hmong people separate themselves from each other (hmong chinese, hmong thai.. etc). This is mainly because they don't have a country of their own or an accurate history of the hmong... but we can assume that the hmong people came from china where the majority are.
@gariadara I'm not much of a history person on the hmong so I may be wrong but however from my experience, hmong thai speak differently and even dress different from hmong chinese and this isn't related to green and white. They do not speak of hmong as in hmong in general but where they from (thailand, laos, or china). So when I told princejmye that these are hmong chinese, he understood what i meant. For you, I would assume you don't know much about the hmong people.
I understood you. I simply do not agree with defining the Hmong by way of the geographic location they reside in. I know the differences between Hmong in different countries as well as the different tribes of Hmong. What I'm concerned with is placing the term Hmong BEFORE the country wherein they reside, thereby rendering the term an adjective. A Hmong Chinese would thus be Chinese, he is simply a "Hmong" one. You should say: Chinese Hmong, or Thai Hmong, where Hmong is the modified word.
@gariadara Like I say, your thinking too deep into this. Your only confusing yourself. Anyone who knows hmong would understand what I meant, it's pretty much common sense nowaday.
@Saeng1021 When someone is called a "insert ethnic group"-American, they are FIRSTLY American, their ethnicity simply describes what kind of American they are. Whereas I do not believe this should apply to the Hmong people. They should be chiefly Hmong, and described via the place of residence. In the same vein as Jews are described. Iranian Jews, German Jews, Polish Jews, etc. That way, the emphasis is placed on this group of disparaged people and NOT the Chinese or the Thai.
@gariadara If that how you want to view it. However as how hmong people describe it, it's place-ethnic. That's how it always been and will always be, even in the hmong language, it is the same thing.
@gariadara The reason I put hmong before of the location is merely because it is spoken in the hmong language as such. for example hmong chinese in hmong is "hmoob suav" not "suav hmoob". Same concept with thai and lao.
wow, never saw this before. Those are definatly qeej they playing, and the clothes look like miao. that would be pretty sweet if jet li had a little hmong in him =D im pretty sure hmong people, chinese people, korean and japanese are all related somehow
4)it accurately portrays government persecution against Hmong that first started to intensify during Ming dynasty.
5)martial arts regained popularity among Hmong people in response to government persecution (most styles practiced by Hmong today trace back to this time).
6)Hmong did not hate other ethnic groups in general. Their resistance movement often contained half a dozen ethnic groups, incld. Han Chinese.
@milvipes This movie actually a remake of Ly Touby and Lo blia Yao.
Two Hmong clans fighting for Political position
Yes.. the Japanese is pure fiction is this movie... There's no written history of Hmong supporting the Japanese during the Ming Dynasty...But the real Hmong history...some did...during the First Indo-Chinese war in Laos
Ly Touby supported the French and Royal Lao regime
Lo Blia Yao supported the Imperial Japanese troops
I also read a post on a site awhile back and it stated that Jet has a Miao background. I guess that's why Jet is always depicting Hmong/Miao clothing and cultures in his Chinese flicks.
Jet Li is the most creative person ever. In this movie, Master Asia's red and white robe contained the teaching of her powers. Master Asia is also Hmong/Miao. It totally represents the Hmong clothing. It goes with the saying that our knowledge can be found in our clothing. I don't know how to saying it in Hmong. I totally never thought of that until now. Also and what was written onto scrolls are just copy and will never grant you true knowledge.
hmong are a BIG part of this world. we are part of the peace. we could of start WW3 if we want and we have the RIGHT to start it. other people dont realize it but its all good cuz they will never know the answer why we hmong survivor after al lthese torture. we will live FOREVER. we will NEVER extinct
It depicts a time when Ming intensified its campaign against southern rebels, lead by Hmong. It was not simply an inter-ethnic conflict, as many Han, Lolo, & Tai joined the rank of Hmong rebels. The depiction of Han warriors confronting Ming officials alongside Hmong is historically accurate.
As for the Japanese pirates, well, nobody likes common bandits, Japanese or Chinese.
YUP. Qing, especially under Yongzheng, were routinely murdering Hmong/Miao. But that's also because they were brutally taxing and oppressing Hmong/Miao, which caused a backlash of frequent rebellions, which were further crushed. Each success rebellion created a wave of refugees and exiled leaders and their militia fighters that had to move higher and higher into the highlands or into Indochina.
Most of Hmong Chinese became Chinese people.....they became other paople ..so plaese dont forget who they are.. or who you are..cause dont let your people or name gone.....make it name Hmong stay forever and keep making good and love each other more...Then our Hmong would live forever maybe we will have a land or place that belong to our of us....Hmong!!!
In true historical event, this movie is actually depicting about our two old clan leaders, Lo Blia Yao & Touby Lyfoung. Two Hmong powerful clan leaders fought each other for political power during the first Indo-Chinese War.
The original novel has different factions fighting for power. This movie adaptation also focuses on the many historical power struggles. The Miao have been oppressed by the Han Chinese for centuries. Dong Fang Bu Bai (Master Asia) despises the Han and imprisons his older brother Wu to steal the sacred scroll and become powerful so he can overthrow the Ming Dynasty government and become a national hero to his people.
He allies with a faction of displaced Japanese warriors who lost a power struggle in Japan against Toyotomi Hideyoshi (who is now invading in Korea in hopes of eventually conquering Ming China) The Japanese actually want to betray Master Asia and gain the power for themselves so they can take over Japan and China. Ling Wu and his group of Chinese swordsmen are on their way to seclusion from the martial arts world after their betrayal by their master for the sacred scroll.
They end up caught in the power struggle and Ling Wu unknowingly falls in love with Master Asia who has castrated himself to become a female and turns homo. He falls in love with Ling wu and loses sight of his original goals. It's pretty gay but damn Bridgett Lin is hot, I would fall for her too lol.
Well this Movie fantasy is depicting about two Hmong clan leaders fighting one another. The (Good) Hmong clan (along side with Jet Li) is supporting the Chinese Ming Dynasty and the (Bad) Hmong clan is supporting the Japanese pirates.
Japanese are no strangers to China in ancient times. It's right across the sea. Southern China has a history of Japanese piracy. The Japanese depicted in this movie are pirates.
Sichuan dialect is, for the most part, the same as Mandarin but the big difference is their tones are different so it sounds very different if you cannot understand Mandarin. When I first heard it, I thought they were possibly Cantonese or other dialect speaking Mandarin with a heavy accent lol. It sounds alot like when foreigners speak Mandarin without knowing the right tones haha.
When, I did notice it sounds a bit like Mandarin and Cantonese. I know Chinese have many dialects, but I'm not familiar with other dialects. Thank you for letting me know.
This was during the end of the Ming Dynasty when a rebel leader name Zhang Xianzhong reconqueror Szechuan and later decimated the population of Szechuan; killing over 3,000,000 people.Then when the Qing Dyansty took power in China; a massive resettlement program took place and most of the people that resettle in Szechuan were southern natives such the Miao/Hmong people to repopulate the region again.
Yes u are correct...It does sounds like a foreigner speaking mandarin..I believe what u're saying true..Sichuan dailect recently became a dailect of Miao/Hmong because of the massive resettlement that took place there.
With a population of 13 millions, disagreements are abound to happen. And with million men on each side of the argument, it can get quite ugly: open warfare. Remember how Hmong fought each other during the Vietnam war?
Just curious, have anyone heard that Li Lianjei 李連杰, aka Jet li to the west, mentioned that he was originally Miao decendent and was born in raised in Beijing, raised to speak Mandarin but still has the heart of a Miao decendent, who believes in Tibetan buddhist phylosophy? I mean it's great if it's true, but it doesn't really matters if he's Miao/Hmong or not, he is still a great actor and will always be a great role model and a Zhonggren citizen.
hes a Mandarin chinese from the main land of china. hes not hong kong people hes the main land people. the differeneces are that the mainland are like speaking like the word chu or shu well thats what i think. the hong kong people kind of speak like vitnamese but they always have that cong cong cong so yeah i think thats the differences lol
There are also different dailects in Mandarin when spoken from the north to the south and Hong Kong is part of Mainland but speaks Cantonese. They are very similar to IndoChina Hmong green and white dailect. Often times they get confuse for the same word spoken but sometime means totally different. See in Mainland Zhongguo, I saw that most Miao dailect are similar to Hmong US green dailect rather to white dailect. And these are the differences between Mandarin and Cantonese speaking.
True. Jet li was on a late night show a few years ago after he acted in Romeo Must Die, I believe. I cannot get any archives of this video clip; however, I found out the there was also a qoute on this site stating he's 100% Hmong but grew up in China. Just like if we are 100% Hmong but grew up here in America, even some of us doesn't even speak Hmong as much just like it in Zhongguo.
See reference below.
celebritywonder (dot) com/html/jetli_trivia1(dot) html
I'm not sure if it's true or not, but I heard that his parents moved to Beijing from the south, not sure which province, due to work relocate or may be politics, who knows. His father, later, died when he was 2 and his mother wants him to attend a wushu martial art school to be trained obedient, discipline, and confident youngman. That's probably how he came to be.
Yes, there are many Miao/Hmong who lives in many huge cities; however, they all speaks Mandarin, the dominated dailect.
Notice that he always include things that resemble the Hmong culture, from Fearless, the peasant girl wore Miao designs on the headdress and arms, from The Mummie, Michelle Yeoh wore a Miao long skirt outfit. According to what I've found, Jet Li did stated that he was Hmong in some late night talk show. lolol Maybe, he has Miao root in him.
Exactly. I've been doing a few research about him and he seems to have many similar background that may linked him to be Hmong. Examples, in several movies that he acted in as you stated in Fearless& Mummy, even in Fong Sai Yuk 1 & 2, Warlords, etc. They all have scenes that either relates to Hmong or can be other ethnics. However, most of his movies are to balance life between obedience to consequence, love to hate, civilians & politicians, etc. If you just pay a good attention of the movies
I once logged on to his Jet LI (dot) com site and, believe it or not, there were a blog that you can choose to chat in either English, Mandarin, Cantonese, or Hmong. Imagine that! hehe I have log on for awhile so I'm not sure if it's this there. I know a few people have asked the question if Jet Li was Hmong/Miao decendent, but never have been replied. Although, if he is Hmong or not, he is still a master, modern master a good sense of humor role model.
@Kratos0909
No, Hmong did not get it from the Chinese. I'm sorry, but you don't know anything about the Hmong people.
niamtxiv 1 month ago
i think the Hmong and Chinese are similar in some way.
they both have last name such as Lee, Li, Chan, Chang, Yang, Hang, etc.
AsurasWrath 5 months ago
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@AsurasWrath No, those are originally Chinese last names. Hmong people merely use them.
Kratos0909 1 month ago
What? Is Jet Li really Miao? This is the second movie I've seen him with the Miao e in it.
XiangMian 9 months ago
HI, I like the song in the movie. Is anybody know what is the title of the song or where can I find it????????? Please help.... :)
angelanamraka 1 year ago
@angelanamraka
check this version
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hope you like it...
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@angelanamraka it is not easy to get this version in the internet (pirated version), because it is not as popular as the original ones sung by Sam Hui and Huang Zhan. this version u heard in this clip can be found in the original album/soundtrack. the name of the song is 沧海一声笑 (cānghǎi yīshēng xiào), originally written by 黄沾 (Huáng Zhān). there are at least 4 mainstream original versions to the song that are more popular (among the males).
imxikhuang 11 months ago
@angelanamraka it's called "Laughing at the World"
heeshin91 9 months ago
@angelanamraka 滄海一聲笑~google ~MP3~
AptxGin 2 months ago
Bruce lee and Jet li are hmong/miao blood,please remember that last name lee is hmong branch.
mrrojntshavhmoob 1 year ago
@mrrojntshavhmoob what ever makes you sleep at night. they are catonese.. straight up enemys.. hmong only got 4 sects. catonese and madarian rule the world.. qing and jin are now in burma the world is rule by rebels
Driver651 1 year ago
@mrrojntshavhmoob ohh...yeah, there is at least-least a small percentage of hmong blood in them, cuz they will never have a 100% of fullest China.
Juinor 1 year ago
HEY THE LADY ARE HMONG HMONG LADY ARE SO BEAUTIFUL.. HMONG LIVE FOREVER
chaomeinthao 1 year ago
HEY THE LADY ARE HMONG HMONG LADY ARE SO BEAUTIFUL
chaomeinthao 1 year ago
HEY THE LADY ARE HMONG
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i love this movie!!!!!!!!
ArtisticHmongBoi 1 year ago
me encanta esta cancion alguien me puede dar el titulo
percyrpl 1 year ago
the shouldve made the song part longer its so short and its a really good song
samuraivaj 1 year ago
the girl with the flute is hot whats her name?
princejmye 1 year ago
Why did they write hmong at the top for?
princejmye 1 year ago
@princejmye Because these people that starts at 1:00 are hmong, the way they dresses (most noticeable is the hat) and the huge flute they play (called Qeej), a traditional hmong woodwind instrument.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 yeh i see it now, lol cant believe i miss that, one more question are you hmong? nyob zoo?
princejmye 1 year ago
@princejmye They are hmong chinese, miao.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 The Hmong have nothing to do with the Chinese, ethnically speaking. They are as different from Chinese as they are from the Japanese...or the French. There is practically no relation at all, other than that the CCP forcefully coerced the term "Chinese" on them. Ethnic Chinese are called "Han" and was originally a northeastern asian group whereas Hmong is indigenous to the south and their language related to southeast asian languages.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara
originally a northeastern asian group? that's not true. Chinese is a mixture of people from all regions of China. The Chinese language itself is related to southeast Asian languages.
niamtxiv 1 year ago
@niamtxiv No, that is simply wrong. I'm not talking about the Chinese Communist Party's definition of the Chinese nationality. I'm talking about the ethnic-linguistic identity of the people responsible for the building of the ANCIENT Chinese civilization. These people are of a very very SPECIFIC ethnic identity: the Hans. The Hans are descendants of the older tribal Huaxia, and are a mixture of the Huaxia tribes along the Yellow River and the Northeastern Dongyi.
gariadara 1 year ago
@niamtxiv The Yellow river is quite northerly located. Just because the Huaxia expanded and MOVED west and south does not mean they are a mixture of the indigenous people they came in contact with. For most of Chinese history, the Huaxia DISPLACED the indigenous populations, not mixed with them. Chinese language is part of the Sino-Tibetan Language family and this family is completely UNRELATED to the Austric language family (southeast asian languages). They are completely different.
gariadara 1 year ago
@niamtxiv If you are referring to Sino-Tibetan's relation with Tai-Kradai languages, this had not been univerally accepted by all linguists. Burman and Tibetan are less "southeast asian" in origin than they are Himalayan in origin.
gariadara 1 year ago
@niamtxiv in other words, the ancestor language to all Sino-Tibetan languages may have had a "west asian" place of origin, not southeast. In fact recent studies posit that Sino-tibetan may share a clade with central asian, siberian and north cauacsian (not to be confused with "caucasian race," which speak indo-european) language families. By the time the Old Chinese language took shape, it was spoken by a people located in the north of China.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara Where did you get this information?
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 I minored in anthropology and linguistics.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara Maybe you misunderstood what I wrote. I say they were hmong chinese as in hmong who live in china and speaks the language. This doesn't mean they are chinese. Hmong are their own ethic group which is why they are not call chinese.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@gariadara Of course this does not mean they have nothing to do with the chinese, matter of fact, the majority of hmong people lives in China.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 I said that Hmong have nothing to do with the Chinese race ETHNICALLY speaking. I specifically made that distinction. I thought that was clear. Sorry for any confusion.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara If that was the case then why even make such a reply when your statement doesn't even relate to what I wrote.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 oh it relates. The term Hmong Chinese is not a good term to use generally. Hmong Minority is a better term and avoids confusion as it only takes into consideration the geopolitical aspect of the Hmong in China and leaves any perceived ethnic relation with Han-Chinese out.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara Your over thinking it, there is no confusion. But if you want to see it as hmong minority then so be it, it doesn't matter either way.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@gariadara For example if there were hmong in japan, I would call them hmong japanese, not japanese. Of course this does not mean they are related to japanese people in any way.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
Only Americans do this thing where they insert the ethnic identifier before the country of citizenship. This is okay because America is not a nation-ethnicity. Both China and Japan are. Those are places where the name of the nation is also the name of the ethnic group that founded the nation. The Japanese themselves would not refer to a Hmong living amongst them as any sort of "Japanese." Not until he adopts a Japonic name, taking up the Japanese (Yamato) ethnic identity.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara Not just only is it an american thing but even the hmong people separate themselves from each other (hmong chinese, hmong thai.. etc). This is mainly because they don't have a country of their own or an accurate history of the hmong... but we can assume that the hmong people came from china where the majority are.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@gariadara I'm not much of a history person on the hmong so I may be wrong but however from my experience, hmong thai speak differently and even dress different from hmong chinese and this isn't related to green and white. They do not speak of hmong as in hmong in general but where they from (thailand, laos, or china). So when I told princejmye that these are hmong chinese, he understood what i meant. For you, I would assume you don't know much about the hmong people.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
I understood you. I simply do not agree with defining the Hmong by way of the geographic location they reside in. I know the differences between Hmong in different countries as well as the different tribes of Hmong. What I'm concerned with is placing the term Hmong BEFORE the country wherein they reside, thereby rendering the term an adjective. A Hmong Chinese would thus be Chinese, he is simply a "Hmong" one. You should say: Chinese Hmong, or Thai Hmong, where Hmong is the modified word.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara Like I say, your thinking too deep into this. Your only confusing yourself. Anyone who knows hmong would understand what I meant, it's pretty much common sense nowaday.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@gariadara You misunderstood what I wrote.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 When someone is called a "insert ethnic group"-American, they are FIRSTLY American, their ethnicity simply describes what kind of American they are. Whereas I do not believe this should apply to the Hmong people. They should be chiefly Hmong, and described via the place of residence. In the same vein as Jews are described. Iranian Jews, German Jews, Polish Jews, etc. That way, the emphasis is placed on this group of disparaged people and NOT the Chinese or the Thai.
gariadara 1 year ago
@gariadara If that how you want to view it. However as how hmong people describe it, it's place-ethnic. That's how it always been and will always be, even in the hmong language, it is the same thing.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@gariadara The reason I put hmong before of the location is merely because it is spoken in the hmong language as such. for example hmong chinese in hmong is "hmoob suav" not "suav hmoob". Same concept with thai and lao.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
@Saeng1021 are those people hmong?
princejmye 1 year ago
@princejmye If you want to know more about the miao, wikipedia is the answer.
Saeng1021 1 year ago
i thought this was hmong dubb
visualkeirockstar 1 year ago
wow, never saw this before. Those are definatly qeej they playing, and the clothes look like miao. that would be pretty sweet if jet li had a little hmong in him =D im pretty sure hmong people, chinese people, korean and japanese are all related somehow
8xyooj06 1 year ago
It makes perfect sense:
1)the background is set in Ming dynasty.
2)they lived in Sichuan.
3)Hmong moved into southern Sichuan during Ming dynasty when many Han Chinese moved out of it due to warfare & poor harvest.
milvipes 1 year ago
4)it accurately portrays government persecution against Hmong that first started to intensify during Ming dynasty.
5)martial arts regained popularity among Hmong people in response to government persecution (most styles practiced by Hmong today trace back to this time).
6)Hmong did not hate other ethnic groups in general. Their resistance movement often contained half a dozen ethnic groups, incld. Han Chinese.
milvipes 1 year ago
However, that altercation with Japanese is pure fiction, tailor-made for Han Chinese nationalists.
milvipes 1 year ago
@milvipes This movie actually a remake of Ly Touby and Lo blia Yao.
Two Hmong clans fighting for Political position
Yes.. the Japanese is pure fiction is this movie... There's no written history of Hmong supporting the Japanese during the Ming Dynasty...But the real Hmong history...some did...during the First Indo-Chinese war in Laos
Ly Touby supported the French and Royal Lao regime
Lo Blia Yao supported the Imperial Japanese troops
HaivHmoobTsojSiab 1 year ago
if i cant understand a word then it's not hmong/miao you jerks
lithehero 1 year ago
the song name please !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
preciouskaj 1 year ago
There not hmong but their costume is.
soin6 1 year ago
anyone know where i can download this song? with the girl singing it?
leonpradith 1 year ago
jet li is not hmong.
vangjlee 1 year ago
Ninja! I love shinobi
kunoichitenchuz8 1 year ago
where can i get this version of the song that she sing in the beginning
Ruinclouded 1 year ago
I also read a post on a site awhile back and it stated that Jet has a Miao background. I guess that's why Jet is always depicting Hmong/Miao clothing and cultures in his Chinese flicks.
koukunut 1 year ago
Jet Li is the most creative person ever. In this movie, Master Asia's red and white robe contained the teaching of her powers. Master Asia is also Hmong/Miao. It totally represents the Hmong clothing. It goes with the saying that our knowledge can be found in our clothing. I don't know how to saying it in Hmong. I totally never thought of that until now. Also and what was written onto scrolls are just copy and will never grant you true knowledge.
koukunut 1 year ago
as if i'm not Hmong enough lols
rurutia 2 years ago
hmong are a BIG part of this world. we are part of the peace. we could of start WW3 if we want and we have the RIGHT to start it. other people dont realize it but its all good cuz they will never know the answer why we hmong survivor after al lthese torture. we will live FOREVER. we will NEVER extinct
mr3ggroll 2 years ago
It depicts a time when Ming intensified its campaign against southern rebels, lead by Hmong. It was not simply an inter-ethnic conflict, as many Han, Lolo, & Tai joined the rank of Hmong rebels. The depiction of Han warriors confronting Ming officials alongside Hmong is historically accurate.
As for the Japanese pirates, well, nobody likes common bandits, Japanese or Chinese.
milvipes 2 years ago
well those are the strangest hmoob folks i've ever seen.........and I'M hmong
Nhia89 2 years ago
If you think Ming was bad, Qing was borderline genocidal. Hmong exodus reached its peak during the reign of Yongzheng.
milvipes 2 years ago 9
@milvipes
YUP. Qing, especially under Yongzheng, were routinely murdering Hmong/Miao. But that's also because they were brutally taxing and oppressing Hmong/Miao, which caused a backlash of frequent rebellions, which were further crushed. Each success rebellion created a wave of refugees and exiled leaders and their militia fighters that had to move higher and higher into the highlands or into Indochina.
hmonguru 1 year ago
@milvipes ming not bad Qing was a manchuria my great great granddad serve the qing reign of kang xi governor general of huhan
aaron654lo 8 months ago
@aaron654lo Can't say I dilike Qing as a whole, but some ethnic groups did suffer disproportionally under Manchu rule, notably Muslims.
milvipes 8 months ago
@milvipes Qing the 300 years old empire was overrun by the england france germany russia american japan powers then sun yet sen rise up
aaron654lo 8 months ago
Most of Hmong Chinese became Chinese people.....they became other paople ..so plaese dont forget who they are.. or who you are..cause dont let your people or name gone.....make it name Hmong stay forever and keep making good and love each other more...Then our Hmong would live forever maybe we will have a land or place that belong to our of us....Hmong!!!
htnmktit 2 years ago 11
I agree, someday well have a land off our own. But this time lets stand togeother under one banner. And not divided
Tanakun09 1 year ago
I love the swordsman movies man, and this song is always there in my head.
Shoot1ngStar 2 years ago
i have an old videocasset hmong dubbed version of this!!! nice to hear their real voices! ^__^
paulsmine24 2 years ago
does somebody have the whole song from the girl
greecostyler 2 years ago
Lmao, nice this is the original of Jet Li in the Movie Legend of the Swordsman! NIcE!! Good day people time for Breakfest.
KillerXify 2 years ago
isnt there a hmong dubb....wats the name of it of hmong?
yanggurl12 2 years ago
yea it is at 3:12 she say drink wine giving the wine jar to the other lady... donot if we Hmong and Chinese using the same words.
HmongLineage2 2 years ago
she did said drink wine in hmong
koukunut 2 years ago
what are japanese doing in ancient china and in southern china of all place? I know it's a movie but...
HmongChaoFa 2 years ago
In true historical event, this movie is actually depicting about our two old clan leaders, Lo Blia Yao & Touby Lyfoung. Two Hmong powerful clan leaders fought each other for political power during the first Indo-Chinese War.
Ly Touby supported the colonial French
Lo Bliayao supported the Imperial Japanese
HaivHmoobTsojSiab 2 years ago
The original novel has different factions fighting for power. This movie adaptation also focuses on the many historical power struggles. The Miao have been oppressed by the Han Chinese for centuries. Dong Fang Bu Bai (Master Asia) despises the Han and imprisons his older brother Wu to steal the sacred scroll and become powerful so he can overthrow the Ming Dynasty government and become a national hero to his people.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
He allies with a faction of displaced Japanese warriors who lost a power struggle in Japan against Toyotomi Hideyoshi (who is now invading in Korea in hopes of eventually conquering Ming China) The Japanese actually want to betray Master Asia and gain the power for themselves so they can take over Japan and China. Ling Wu and his group of Chinese swordsmen are on their way to seclusion from the martial arts world after their betrayal by their master for the sacred scroll.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
They end up caught in the power struggle and Ling Wu unknowingly falls in love with Master Asia who has castrated himself to become a female and turns homo. He falls in love with Ling wu and loses sight of his original goals. It's pretty gay but damn Bridgett Lin is hot, I would fall for her too lol.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
Well this Movie fantasy is depicting about two Hmong clan leaders fighting one another. The (Good) Hmong clan (along side with Jet Li) is supporting the Chinese Ming Dynasty and the (Bad) Hmong clan is supporting the Japanese pirates.
HaivHmoobTsojSiab 2 years ago
Japanese are no strangers to China in ancient times. It's right across the sea. Southern China has a history of Japanese piracy. The Japanese depicted in this movie are pirates.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
@HmongChaoFa Those are Japanese pirates that were hired by Master Asia. Pirates aren't always in the West and in the Carribean, they're everywhere.
AtarashiNOhi 1 month ago
its miao she said drink wine at 3:12
paonmao00 2 years ago
jet li is hmong, that is why he is so good at kung fu muaha
cher032189 2 years ago
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5DarkEye 2 years ago
He is Hmong stupid. Get real.
cher032189 2 years ago
Okay, lets not call each other stupid. It's uncivil and immature. He speaks Mandarin. What's your proof?
5DarkEye 2 years ago
Notice the Miao characters are speaking in a Sichuan Dialect. Sounds really neat.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
lol. I thought they were speaking in Cantonese. lol
niamtxiv 2 years ago
Sichuan dialect is, for the most part, the same as Mandarin but the big difference is their tones are different so it sounds very different if you cannot understand Mandarin. When I first heard it, I thought they were possibly Cantonese or other dialect speaking Mandarin with a heavy accent lol. It sounds alot like when foreigners speak Mandarin without knowing the right tones haha.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
When, I did notice it sounds a bit like Mandarin and Cantonese. I know Chinese have many dialects, but I'm not familiar with other dialects. Thank you for letting me know.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
I wonder if the Hmong in Sichuan speak with this Sichuanese dialect and Miao in Chongqing etc.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
@niamtxiv I thought it was mandarin.
kunoichitenchuz8 1 year ago
This was during the end of the Ming Dynasty when a rebel leader name Zhang Xianzhong reconqueror Szechuan and later decimated the population of Szechuan; killing over 3,000,000 people.Then when the Qing Dyansty took power in China; a massive resettlement program took place and most of the people that resettle in Szechuan were southern natives such the Miao/Hmong people to repopulate the region again.
HaivHmoobTsojSiab 2 years ago
After the conquest of Szechuan and resettlement of Northern immigrants, this is how Mandarin came into Hmong daily speech.
elguapotetigre 2 years ago
Yes u are correct...It does sounds like a foreigner speaking mandarin..I believe what u're saying true..Sichuan dailect recently became a dailect of Miao/Hmong because of the massive resettlement that took place there.
HaivHmoobTsojSiab 2 years ago
With a population of 13 millions, disagreements are abound to happen. And with million men on each side of the argument, it can get quite ugly: open warfare. Remember how Hmong fought each other during the Vietnam war?
milvipes 2 years ago
does anyone know the title of this song?
i know its gotta be some chinese folk song.
Hhaa, i saw one of stephen chows movie in which he was singing it (terribly) hahhaa.
Funny though.
1Haraadoll 2 years ago
Great video! I have this movie too.
Just curious, have anyone heard that Li Lianjei 李連杰, aka Jet li to the west, mentioned that he was originally Miao decendent and was born in raised in Beijing, raised to speak Mandarin but still has the heart of a Miao decendent, who believes in Tibetan buddhist phylosophy? I mean it's great if it's true, but it doesn't really matters if he's Miao/Hmong or not, he is still a great actor and will always be a great role model and a Zhonggren citizen.
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago 2
Who knows what ethnicity is Jet Li. lol I still wonder. lol
niamtxiv 2 years ago
hes a Mandarin chinese from the main land of china. hes not hong kong people hes the main land people. the differeneces are that the mainland are like speaking like the word chu or shu well thats what i think. the hong kong people kind of speak like vitnamese but they always have that cong cong cong so yeah i think thats the differences lol
12563longkhang 2 years ago
There are also different dailects in Mandarin when spoken from the north to the south and Hong Kong is part of Mainland but speaks Cantonese. They are very similar to IndoChina Hmong green and white dailect. Often times they get confuse for the same word spoken but sometime means totally different. See in Mainland Zhongguo, I saw that most Miao dailect are similar to Hmong US green dailect rather to white dailect. And these are the differences between Mandarin and Cantonese speaking.
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
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boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
i remember my sister telling me she saw a video that jet li had claimed to be miao/hmong, and was able to speak the language too.
yajboi303 2 years ago
True. Jet li was on a late night show a few years ago after he acted in Romeo Must Die, I believe. I cannot get any archives of this video clip; however, I found out the there was also a qoute on this site stating he's 100% Hmong but grew up in China. Just like if we are 100% Hmong but grew up here in America, even some of us doesn't even speak Hmong as much just like it in Zhongguo.
See reference below.
celebritywonder (dot) com/html/jetli_trivia1(dot) html
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
hehe, maybe he is. There are many Hmong living in the cities who only speak Mandarin.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
I'm not sure if it's true or not, but I heard that his parents moved to Beijing from the south, not sure which province, due to work relocate or may be politics, who knows. His father, later, died when he was 2 and his mother wants him to attend a wushu martial art school to be trained obedient, discipline, and confident youngman. That's probably how he came to be.
Yes, there are many Miao/Hmong who lives in many huge cities; however, they all speaks Mandarin, the dominated dailect.
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
Notice that he always include things that resemble the Hmong culture, from Fearless, the peasant girl wore Miao designs on the headdress and arms, from The Mummie, Michelle Yeoh wore a Miao long skirt outfit. According to what I've found, Jet Li did stated that he was Hmong in some late night talk show. lolol Maybe, he has Miao root in him.
niamtxiv 2 years ago
Exactly. I've been doing a few research about him and he seems to have many similar background that may linked him to be Hmong. Examples, in several movies that he acted in as you stated in Fearless& Mummy, even in Fong Sai Yuk 1 & 2, Warlords, etc. They all have scenes that either relates to Hmong or can be other ethnics. However, most of his movies are to balance life between obedience to consequence, love to hate, civilians & politicians, etc. If you just pay a good attention of the movies
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
it sure makes sense.
I once logged on to his Jet LI (dot) com site and, believe it or not, there were a blog that you can choose to chat in either English, Mandarin, Cantonese, or Hmong. Imagine that! hehe I have log on for awhile so I'm not sure if it's this there. I know a few people have asked the question if Jet Li was Hmong/Miao decendent, but never have been replied. Although, if he is Hmong or not, he is still a master, modern master a good sense of humor role model.
boyjohnnyyoyo 2 years ago
@niamtxiv really? That's so awesome! you happen to know where i can find that? the whole late night show thing...
idowatilikebitch 1 year ago
@niamtxiv What late night talk show was that?
SuperRicecracker 1 year ago
Lookes like a great movie! I like Chinese movies! They has so high quality, and beautiful clothes! Thanks, my friend for sharing!
plattform5163 2 years ago
I loved this movie as a child & still am :)
Especially when it's hmong dubbed .
I llooveee the song.
Wow, I never really noticed the Hmong Chinese clothing in here. LOL.
1Haraadoll 2 years ago
I know, I love the Hmong Chinese clothing in the movie.. so beautiful!
amarantine81 2 years ago 2