Best of science? It should be the worst of science they are taking the most important subject ever and turning it into a after school special or should i say special school special, watch out for the small bus.
all these idiotic notions of Dark Energy, Dark matter and Black Holes disappear into to mathematical fictions they are once one gains an understanding of the Electrical Force that is much more likely to act over interstellar space. Plasma cosmology makes perfect sense to describe very well and much more sensibly the present poorly understood, downright stupid astro-physics with gravity only cosmology.
@Diemedes Oh No. Another Rude little boy on YouTube. Hey Kid, do your brain a favour and do some real reading on Plasma physics. Something with some partial differential equations that involve Div Grad and Curl. Then go back to basics and learn Maxwell's equations in Quaternion form and understand some real physics before commenting so personally offensively from a stupid place of ignorance. Then come back here and bring a debate worthy of my time and energy. Otherwise just STFU boy
First of all, I'm 21 years old. Secondly, I'm a 3rd year student majoring in physics. I'm pretty sure I know what grads and curls are, as well as Maxwell's equations, on a deeper level than you do. Especially when it comes to the physics, otherwise you wouldn't be a proponent of pseudoscience.
I'll be happy to take you on on specifics, please make my day.
@Diemedes I'm more than twice your age, have 2 degrees, a masters in Engineering, one in Physics with honours. Not that that means shit. I just figured you were very young because of your immature attack. What you will learn from your structured learning at college will lead you down a narrow path of conditioned understanding. I get where you are coming from, I've been there. When you get a chance, once you don't have to pass any more exams the history of science esp pertaining to ...
@Diemedes the of Electricity and Light (for starters the works of Whittaker, JJ Thompson, Grassman, Green, Hamilton, and Lorentz ). There are many differing understandings that haven't seen the light of day. Mainly for political reasons. But i digress from strict cosmology per se. You mention pseudoscience but nothing could be more pseudoscience than modern cosmology, where nothing is backed up with any lab work and every day sees another theoretical invention. most of it poppycock.
@Diemedes .. anyways.. this isn't the forum for extended debate Word limits and all. You should endeavor to be a better scientist and have an open inquiring mind rather than be hostile and derisive of alternative ideas outside the mainstream. History is full of stallwarts with your attitude having to eat pie from mavericks that were first treated badly by the establishment. Sacrosanct ideas have no place in science. good luck with the learning.
Don't try to weasel your way out of the discussion, Mr. I-have-two-degrees-one-with-honours. I want to take your ridiculous Electric Universe "theory" on, starting with the basics. I'm awaiting your alternative theory that can explain the following things:
@Diemedes cool it with the vitriol Mr Impatience. I am only too glad to oblige. however I am a busy man Long ago i was a student like you with time to burn. these days i earn a living and seconds are precious. You haven't inspired in me much reason to share with you, because you display an obnoxious attitude to say the least I will give you some of my seconds, but you will have to wait for them. I have a deadline and you come in at very low down the priority of things to do today.
I happen to be on vacation, otherwise I generally hardly have any free time as a student. Some intelligent man you must be to get honorary degrees and have had free time as a student.
In any case, I'm eagerly awaiting to be enlightened and feel eternally grateful that you'll be able to spare some of those precious seconds of your highly important time.
@Diemedes :). nice.. i can take the sarcasm. I didn't mean to come off as a cock b4. just trying to say im pretty busy today but i will get back to your questions. Please hold caller.
@pixelspring Great, now I would like to join this conversation. I mean, you say stuff like you have all these degrees and an honor yet you still haven't explained those reasons in list form that Diemedes has such stated. I know, I know. Your a very busy man, and I don't doubt that. I'm just simply stating that even with all that knowledge you have, you can't defend your...shall we say..."cause" in this argument against which he said in list form. It's been a week, i'm sure it wont take long.
@pixelspring Maybe 2 minutes at most. I'm not arguing with you guys but I do wish to see an actual end to your argument and at this point it doesn't seem like neither of you will win if you don't stick to said argument. I'm actually thinking that if you don't take his so called list he made and prove him wrong, he won. I say you should criticize his list. You don't have to but it would be nice to see an argument finished with a victory. Your double his age, i'm sure you can do it.
@XxDeapAbyss . Yo XxDeapAbyss. Yeah I'm definitely replying. I'm hitting a deadline here. its pretty intense. Thanks for joining in. :). After this coming Monday things lighten up for me. - Then i have time for some fun stuff. The list is def worth a point wise rebuttal. Cheers . watch this space as they say. (pun intended )
Oh, and one last thing: I will not tolerate absurdly long messages with bits and pieces of unrelated evidence and hundreds of references to books and non peer-reviewed journals - I want concise, to-the-point answers to my points and relevant references to peer-reviewed journals, or at least graphs and equations if it comes to an opinion of your own.
Don't worry, I'm not impatient. I said I'm waiting, not that I'm demanding an immediate answer. I know an attempt will take time.
I just find it funny that most scientific people think that God isn't real just because you can't detect Him with any of your senses or that there is 100% evidence that He is there. And yet dark matter almot has the same definition and none of them have a problem accepting the concept, blows me away.
Indeed. I have to admit I find these sort of things incredibly fascinating, but as others have stated, the way its presented makes me want to punch a baby and then jump off a roof top.
@crysisnov That doesn't make this subject sound stupid! It just make you sound stupid for saying something as prejudice as that. Also were is the evidence that he is Canadian? Don't say its his accent because some people can be misconstrued as having a different accent.
@XxDeapAbyss lol, calm your tits xP First of all, it says he is from Canada from one of the previous videos. And most importantly, I was simply referring to "South Park", and how they generalize the view on Canadians. It was merely a joke, and obviously you didn't get it.
@crysisnov I don't care if you got that from graffiti on the back of a bus! I certainly don't think it was a joke and that's not the fact that I didn't get it, because I did get it. That "generalization" on Canadians is like the generalizations of black guys, gingers, American's, and even Norwegians such as yourself. It's prejudice. How would you like it if the only thing you saw on the internet was : Norwegians are all a bunch of viking idiots that live in igloos?
@XxDeapAbyss Dude, I think you are taking this a bit too serious.. It seems as if you are very excitable or sensitive about this. I would not care about any generalization of any kind of people, when it is merely meant as a joke. You could make fun about Norweigans, I wouldn't find it offensive.
could as well say that its because of this dark matter that the solar system's planets are moving slower than oter stars...and not the opposite..........
I saw the name 'BestOfScience' with 185 videos and thought awesome, I know how I'm spending my weekend. Then I got hung up on the guy with the weird speech patterns, and then the informational content of this video turned out to be rather close to zilch. Moving on...
I like how they look at stars... see a red shift, (meaning they are moving away) but forget that the light is VERY, VERY old and the stars are most likely doing something completely different now! All of our observations are of an older universe.
I have a theory for dark matter: THERE IS NONE!!!!
Einstein said that when objects move faster they gain mass. As it is commonly reported that galaxies are moving away from earth at so-and-so the percentage speed of light then there masses will increase too. That is where this "invisible" mass comes from. Case solved. Now give me my noble prize and my cheque. Thanks.
@hplis Well, there is stuff that is "not lit up" LOL ...dark. They just take it a little too far and make it seem like some mystical material. NO... just dark! XD
@hplis good thinking but wrong. one way mass is measured from great distance is how they interact gravitationally. additional energy would be the same as additional mass, and would be included in the estimate.
i had a hard time believing in dark matter too, this video is no help for sure... but it is now widely accepted. what convinced me finally was seeing the colliding galaxy time lapse... you can almost see the dark matter working.
@dandudes98 they said "essentially". the ellipse of jupiter's orbit is so close to circular that, for this video, they decided to use the term "circular" instead. its only an approximation
Has anyone done the calculation used in the video and got the same value because I get a completly different value for the mass of the sun. 8.792394e28
the fact that galaxies are held toguether might have something to do with dark matter, or, if that's obvious, it could act like a response force to the expansion of the universe? The universe expands around the galaxies. If it pushed them held in place, because space is creating around them. I dunno. Tell me why not, if there is one.
And yet, we can see, we can visualize the ethereal matter. The scheme to one device for to visualize the ethereal matter: EXIST! And this device it can realize!
@sandustanBrasov i can do what you just did too. just string a bunch of sentences together, use the lingo, make bald claims and then not bother to back them up.
The matter of the our terrestrial globe has four states of aggregation: solid, liquid, gseous and ethereal and not three after official science. The matter on which we see it, proceed from the ethereal matter, which from cancentration in concentration it had constituted in the electrons, in protons respectivel;y in the atoms of the chemical elements which had overtaken at the gaseous, liquid and solid state. All the matter on which we see it, is condensed ether.
The PHYSICAL-CHEMICAL MATTER is the visible matter with free eye and is constituted from atoms of the chemical elements. The PHYSICAL-ETHEREAL MATTER is a matter with atoms more small with 7..8 order of dimension than the atoms of chemical elements, and the bodies formed from this matter are invisible for the human eye. The ETHEREAL PHYSICS it occupy with the study of the ethereal matters, but which was abandoned in the XX century, because in 1905 A.Einstein excludes the ether
• SandustanBrasov But the ETHER is a physical reality constituted from a very small matter, invisible for human eye, and is formed from atoms more small with 7...8 order of dimension than the atoms of the chemical elements. The matter of the ether penetrate in all the visible bodies and is the physical matter which fills both the interplanetary space and the interatomic space. The ether is a matter with mass and weigth, being subdued and she the action of the universal attraction law.
Through the relativity theory to Einstein of over century, it hold with strenght -as a conspiracy a general activity of intellectual stultify of the planetary population. from relativity theory proceed the notion of: singularity, Big bang, black holes and holes of worm. From 1905 and till now in 2011, the disciples of the Einstein, preach with contumely as scientific elements of high class these theoretical confusions, these absurdities from which they had made a business...
The science has and history. In the Fundamental Principle of Democrit(470..380BC) it show:"From nothing nothing's born, nothing that exist can not be destroyed and any transformation consist from a reunion and separation...Out of atoms and ether. all rest is not otherwise than rationament and not exist...The spirit as well as the ether consist of a small and spherical atoms, very mobile, atoms that their movement form the phenomenon of life".
It popularize the fantastical theories and stantardized theories with which it terrorize the inhabitants the Earth, after what Einstein with relativity theory had blocked the science of the century XX. Sptephen Hawking and roger Penrose had demonstrated in 1967 that the black holes proceed from the relativity theory.How it can conceive and it can say that the heart of the one black hole is a gravitational singularity whose volume tend to zero and whose mass tend to infinite?
The notion of dark matter and dark energy proceed from theoretical physics, from relativity theory of the A. Einstein, from the mistaken interpretation of the physical reality. Something exist indeed: and matter and energy; but is the much ethereal matter and the her energys from the her frame. Dark energy and cosmic acceleration are a failure of relativity of the Einstein.
• SandustanBrasov In 1905, A.Einstein conclude that the ether hasn't a correspondent in reality and constitute not a medium which let can serve as reference system. Thus Einstein renounced to the ether notion and absolute space and emits the two restricted relativity principles. By it content the second principle excludes the ether, impose as limit of bodies' movement - the light speed - and denatured completely the classic dynamics reality.
maybe the matter is there. it's reaching us through time before light. maybe there's variables affecting gravity we don't know about. maybe the magnitisim of the black holes is so strong it's pulling everything around it like it's on a string.
this is not important how fast stars are moving,becouse they all creating the same centrifugal forse,becouse they moving together with dark matter.Only move thrue dark matter can create biggest centrifugal forse
ok so by bunch of numbers they can calculate everything...OK but how did they get to the conclusion they are doing it the right way ? they cant know whats inside of the planet ???
@predvcecerom by watching the way planets interact with eachother through gravity they can determine it's mass. and they can use arsorbsion spectres to say what elements and combounds they consist of.
Right now i saw something very huge and bright in the night sky in Norway which looked like a bright star very close to the earth.
I wanted my dad to come look at it but only after some seconds the brightness became much weaker since the first time i saw it and then it became very small and suddenly moved away.
@nhmllr725 ... a quite common phenomenon. And then gets bored unexpectedly fast, when the objects start to magically shapeshift into totally different objects. He must be from some insane paralell universe.
:| ..... how can galaxies move their stars at the same speed, if they're spiral shape? come on, they wouldn't be spiral shaped if all moved at the same rate.....
@bbphnix - I believe that the supermassive black holes at the center of the galaxies suck in matter in a swirling vortex, impacting the rest of the stellar gas and stars surrounding it, giving the rest of the galaxy it's spiral shape. Eventually the speed of matter swirling into the event horizon is so intense that it creates stellar winds which blow the surrounding gas away fro the hole, ending it's feeding cycle but leaving the momentum of the swirl it began to affect the rest of the galaxy.
@bbphnix AFAIK, spiral galaxies only look like a spiral, but the bright "arms" aren't moving at all, they're just areas of accelerated stellar formation. They're brighter because they contain more (and bluer) stars. Now, what triggers stellar formation, that should be interesting...
This is all old info, which sorta came in bits and pieces when I read your comment; there might be newer discoveries relating to spiral galaxies.
There is something that I don't understand about this series:
Why would dark matter make it so that all the stars spin around the center of the galaxy with the same speed? Wouldn't a greater mass throughout the whole galaxy and beyond just increase the speed of all stars according to the gravitational law? That way, the stars still have a difference in speed depending on their distance to the center..
space is a ocean :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) gravity is a hole in the space made by matter ..and when you made hole where go the substance from the hole? .. in the hill or dark matter but is not matter is same oposit thing :D gravity-anti gravity :) ..dark matter is a hill of emty space or empty space with hight pressure ... my mistake this is dark energy :) :D dark matter is inertia of hole ..gravity without matter like dopler effect.. light and electro-magnetism is waves in this ocean
Anyway, Isn't it funny that we calculate the mass of everyday items [weight(Newtons) / Gravitational acceleration(m/s^2) = grams and that's not even right], and actually measure the mass of stellar objects?
(No, the kitchens scale doesn't measure mass. It measures weight => Force)
@loupax The scale is the problem. The bigger the scale the more precise your measurements will be. For example, if you want to mix two liquids 1:1000 you can be very precise if the unit is tons. Not so if you'd switch the unit to micrograms.
@jjoshy111 If it exists and we can't detect it of course it really exists...but is there another explanation for the increased speeds around galaxies? That's a much better question I think.. then the other question is there another explanation for dark energy ?
@HolidayNova A much better explanation would be that gravity is not the only thing that makes things move. There are so many other possibilities, such as a plasma based universe, that are better than inventing fairy dust like dark matter. The physicists keep saying it's there because we can see the effects just like we can't see the wind but we see it's effects. The truth is that there are many other forces that can produce the same effect as "wind" ;)
the matter in our universe had to come from some where. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another, and I am saying that black holes process the mass that falls into it to make dark matter, and the Dark Matter Universe could a Bose-Einstein Condensate, and during the Big Bang was released into the universe as we now know it, See video for domo.
Not a mystery when one notes that charged particles are effected by magnetic fields. Planets and stars within the envelope of the black holes immense electromagnetic field move at the same speed because they match the black holes rotation. All objects in the galaxy are microscopic compared to the black hole in the center. Each object is like a charged particle. Black hole have immense magnetic fields or they would not produce energy jets at each pole. Other evidence is found to supports this.
This title is misleading. Most of us already know how to calculate the mass of stars thru the orbital method. It's common knowledge, we are more interested in why the speed of stars orbit at a constant.
I was waiting for the reason of why the stars were moving so fast despite the distance and instead, I got lectures on the mass of the sun. It did not answer the question!
Maybe a possible explanation for difficulty in detecting the dark matter on earth is the relative Size and Scale in order for them to be effective.
A good example: the graviton particle, under the scale of sub-atomic level it has almost puny to no effect on other particles, but gravitons(responsible for gravity) have huge effects on the scale of cosmic size matter such as star, planets, galaxies..etc.
The dark matter could be something that works relatively in large(Comic) scale only.
If it was dark matter that kept the speed of stars constant?
They all know that dark energy is the energy that speeds up the expansion of the universe,
I can't prove it mathematically but I think they will find dark energy as the cause of the constant speed, at no matter what orbit.
You have to look at which there is more of: dark energy or dark matter, er dark energy wins out hands down. Since there is more of dark energy chances are in dark energy favor.
Abstract: Possibly the problem here can be solved if all the matter that resides within each galaxy comes from their respected central black hole. The orbital speed of those stars are then determined by the rotational speed of the black hole which created the matter. Similar to throwing balls out of a spinning spacecraft. The balls would have the spin momentum of the spacecraft. As long as there is no physical interference the balls in orbit about the spacecraft would all have the same speed.
@GateMessenger That hypothesis has a couple major problems; first, matter coming out of a black hole is, as far as we know, almost impossible. Second, that doesn't explain how the stars are maintaining stable orbits. Objects farther away from a body should orbit it more slowly or their speed will take them out of orbit. If Pluto orbited the sun at the same speed as Mercury, it would go flying out into deep space... but the outer-rim stars in galaxies seem to be stable.
@Hooya2 Then explain if matter cannot escape a black hole then why are nearly all the stars in our Milky Way moving away from the central black hole? If time were reversed the stars would move closer to the black hole. Some astrophysicists claim that their finding show that the black hole located in the core of our galaxy is older than all the stars within it. Plus the outer orbiting stars are the oldest in the galaxy. If their ages were plotted against their movement all would be..
.. shown to be born from the black hole. Yet nothing is suppose to be able to escape a black hole. The black hole is the tree of life as the Maya claimed. Gravity was suppose to also cause the universe's expansion to slow down then to cause a big crunch; but observations showed the universe is inflating. When the cause of gravity is found it will explain everything, even why the universe is inflating and why Saturn's outer rings are younger than the inner rings.
@GateMessenger Could you cite your sources? The only source I could find, an article by SEDS (if you google Milky Way Galaxy it's the second hit, after wiki), says the opposite, that the central bulge contains older stars and the arms are younger. I've never heard that most stars in the Milky way are moving away from the center--I thought most of them were in stable orbits around it. Distant GALAXIES are moving away from us and from each other, perhaps you confused the two?
@Hooya2 lol, give sources, on YouTube? Yeah right, you can't post proper links + I did not keep track of every source over the last 15 years of research. If you can't find the info by using Google then you don't know what key words to use. Try "which came first, black hole or galaxies".
@GateMessenger I tried googling what you asked me to, and all of the hits were about a study that showed black holes form before galaxies. None of them back up your claims that matter comes out of black holes, that stars aren't in stable orbits, or that stars in the arms are older than stars in the center. Did you google this yourself before telling me to? I don't appreciate having my time wasted...
@Hooya2 How is your time wasted? You are wasting my time by asking questions you could answer by using Google. Oh yeah, you do not know what to look for. Please, don't bother me if you do not understand. I have been a research scientist for more than 15 years. I understand perfectly. A word of advice, don't be fooled by the best guess or speculation (theory). Always remember the facts, the physical data. This will help you better understand future observations.
@GateMessenger A research scientist that gets angry when politely asked to cite a source? Hah. Lying to set yourself up as an authority is pathetic. On top of that, it's pointless; if you can't back up your claims with evidence, it doesn't matter what occupation you say you're in.
I've used Google, and the evidence I found contradicts you (remember that SEDS article?) The source you cited doesn't support you. I can't use Google? No, you're bullshitting and I'm calling you out.
@Hooya2 I was not trying to make myself look like an authoritative figure. I was merely trying to show you I am not a novice to research. Please, if you want to learn something then research it without bias info from someone else. I did say remember the facts not the theory, I was trying to be nice, now you can leave me alone.
@GateMessenger If you want to show you're not a novice to research, then show me some research. All you've done so far is make claims and not back them up when challenged.
@Hooya2 I have played this childish insult to show importance game before. It does not end very well. Telling me to back my claims is like calling me a liar for you don't believe. Where does this go if I am able to back my claims 100%? Then how would you look in this conservation? Please be nice & discuss opinions or questions you may have. BTW, the oldest star in our Milky Way was discovered & documented in the journal Nature. It is located near the outer edge of the galaxy not near the core.
.. Young stars were found to be orbiting near the black hole Sgr a. I wonder when by the nebula theory how is it that Saturn's outer rings are the youngest, according to Cassini spectrograph reading of the ring debris. The rings nearest to Saturn were found to be saturated with dirty ice while the outer ring was comprised of clean ice. This is evidence that the outer rings are new and the inner rings are old. This data does not conform to the Nebula theory on how our solar system formed.
... If the Nebula theory was correct, via accretion, as the debris collected the outer rings would have been saturated with more debris than the inner rings yet this is contrary to physical observations. So the outer rings appear to be younger than the inner ones. My idea on what causes gravity predicted Saturn's young rings. My idea contradicts the law of thermodynamics where it states that energy cannot be created. This is why it is not published, yet when you insert gravity as the work force
.... in the formula for thermodynamics heat is produced by the pressure of mass upon itself. Heat is energy and thus is being created freely. When gravity is the work force it produces energy without effort. This is the missing link to understanding what is causing gravity in the first place. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. The reaction to gravity can be seen by the sun's opposite action of solar wind. Gravity then is the complementary force of the solar wind.
..... So gravity is the result when new energy is created at the cores of objects large enough to produce energy via the pressure of mass upon itself. This is why the graviton was not detected in particle accelerators. Gravity does not appear until new energy is created. This is the evidence needed to explain why the universe is inflating between every galaxy. New energy created acts like air bubbles forcing all objects away from one another while still attracting smaller objects that do not
Yes, I said predicted. When you note that particle collisions create 1.022MeV of energy, then with conservation needs only 1.022Mev to transform into 2 elementary particles. This energy is being created via radiation. The heat at the core of our sun is so intense it causes nuclear fission. Radiation is the key to particle creation against an EM front. This is why matter forms on a disk plane around stars and radioactive planets such as all the Jovian planets. As the energy increases over time
from accretion it directly causes jumps in wavelengths making the distance where new matter forms to be located further away. Thus this is why the Jovian planets have newly forming debris rings. This would imply that the rings will increase as time passes and the newest ones will form further away from the surface.
When inserting gravity as the work force in thermodynamics it answers many questions. It even answers the biggest question in physics, what causes gravity. peace.
@GateMessenger As for the rest of this crap, it's like you haven't listened to anything I've said. If you actually have sources for young stars orbiting close to the center of the galaxy, then cite them. Simply rephrasing your claim doesn't make it more plausible.
@GateMessenger I don't take the word of random strangers as infallible; what part of that is insulting or calling you a liar? And if you do back your claims up 100%, then I'll admit I was wrong, and then we can have a meaningful discussion.
A quick Google search shows that the oldest star known in our galaxy is HE 1523-0901, documented in Astrophysical Journal Letters. It's a halo star--meaning it's not on the edge of our galaxy, but off the orbital plane entirely.
@Hooya2 No, the oldest star does not contain heavy metals HE0107-5240 as theorized by the formation of the early universe. It is located on the outer rim of the galaxy and I believe is older than HE 1523-0901. Since it is difficult to determine the age of stars by size and distance then measuring the contents of the material which make up a star best determines it.
@GateMessenger First, you seem to be correct that HE0107-5240 is older (Google isn't infallible). I compared the two papers (Discovery of HE 1523–0901, a Strongly r-Process-enhanced Metal-poor Star with Detected Uranium, and Is HE 0107-5240 A Primordial Star? The Characteristics of Extremely Metal-Poor Carbon-Rich Stars). They both did metallicity studies and 0107 had a lower value--although it still had SOME metals. Problem is, it's rather a moot point, because 0107 is ALSO in the halo.
Answer me this, why is the universe inflating between every galaxy? Does gravity push as well as pull? Note the moons slow movement away from the earth. Could the same action that is causing the galaxies to inflate away from one another be the same action causing the space between the moon and earth to inflate? Please don't recite the current theory, It does not work. Inflation should be found akin to every gravitational object. The earth will soon be found to be slowly moving away from the sun.
@GateMessenger I see a lot of red herrings, but still no sources for your claims. Why is the universe inflating? Don't know, but that has nothing to do with this discussion. We know why the moon is moving away from the earth--earth's rotation is slowing towards a tidal lock with the moon, and the energy is driving the moon into a higher orbit. Contrary to your claim, this theory accounts for it quite well.
The subject is farly interesting, the narrater sounds sooo dull.
Difius 3 days ago
3:16 is that Ray and 1:01 SEXY BABE
ibman7 3 days ago
Couldn't they find a human to narrate this video?
R4Zy3L 2 weeks ago
Amazing, Cool Video. Thanks for shared
directorygod 1 month ago
Best of science? It should be the worst of science they are taking the most important subject ever and turning it into a after school special or should i say special school special, watch out for the small bus.
Lakota60 1 month ago
fliff
videofreek112 1 month ago
it was good but not abut dark matter .probably he will talk about dark matter and his gravitational effect after .this vid is not complete
hyperislamist 1 month ago
all these idiotic notions of Dark Energy, Dark matter and Black Holes disappear into to mathematical fictions they are once one gains an understanding of the Electrical Force that is much more likely to act over interstellar space. Plasma cosmology makes perfect sense to describe very well and much more sensibly the present poorly understood, downright stupid astro-physics with gravity only cosmology.
pixelspring 1 month ago
@pixelspring
Oh no, another "Electric Universe" tard...
Diemedes 1 month ago
@Diemedes Oh No. Another Rude little boy on YouTube. Hey Kid, do your brain a favour and do some real reading on Plasma physics. Something with some partial differential equations that involve Div Grad and Curl. Then go back to basics and learn Maxwell's equations in Quaternion form and understand some real physics before commenting so personally offensively from a stupid place of ignorance. Then come back here and bring a debate worthy of my time and energy. Otherwise just STFU boy
pixelspring 1 month ago
@pixelspring
First of all, I'm 21 years old. Secondly, I'm a 3rd year student majoring in physics. I'm pretty sure I know what grads and curls are, as well as Maxwell's equations, on a deeper level than you do. Especially when it comes to the physics, otherwise you wouldn't be a proponent of pseudoscience.
I'll be happy to take you on on specifics, please make my day.
Diemedes 1 month ago
@Diemedes I'm more than twice your age, have 2 degrees, a masters in Engineering, one in Physics with honours. Not that that means shit. I just figured you were very young because of your immature attack. What you will learn from your structured learning at college will lead you down a narrow path of conditioned understanding. I get where you are coming from, I've been there. When you get a chance, once you don't have to pass any more exams the history of science esp pertaining to ...
pixelspring 1 month ago
@Diemedes the of Electricity and Light (for starters the works of Whittaker, JJ Thompson, Grassman, Green, Hamilton, and Lorentz ). There are many differing understandings that haven't seen the light of day. Mainly for political reasons. But i digress from strict cosmology per se. You mention pseudoscience but nothing could be more pseudoscience than modern cosmology, where nothing is backed up with any lab work and every day sees another theoretical invention. most of it poppycock.
pixelspring 1 month ago
@Diemedes .. anyways.. this isn't the forum for extended debate Word limits and all. You should endeavor to be a better scientist and have an open inquiring mind rather than be hostile and derisive of alternative ideas outside the mainstream. History is full of stallwarts with your attitude having to eat pie from mavericks that were first treated badly by the establishment. Sacrosanct ideas have no place in science. good luck with the learning.
pixelspring 1 month ago
@pixelspring
Don't try to weasel your way out of the discussion, Mr. I-have-two-degrees-one-with-honours. I want to take your ridiculous Electric Universe "theory" on, starting with the basics. I'm awaiting your alternative theory that can explain the following things:
1) The observed redshift of galaxies.
2) The age of the oldest globular clusters.
3) The origin of the CMB.
4) The observed abundances of light elements.
5) The observed cosmic structure on Mpc scales.
I'm waiting.
Diemedes 1 month ago
@Diemedes cool it with the vitriol Mr Impatience. I am only too glad to oblige. however I am a busy man Long ago i was a student like you with time to burn. these days i earn a living and seconds are precious. You haven't inspired in me much reason to share with you, because you display an obnoxious attitude to say the least I will give you some of my seconds, but you will have to wait for them. I have a deadline and you come in at very low down the priority of things to do today.
pixelspring 1 month ago
@pixelspring
I happen to be on vacation, otherwise I generally hardly have any free time as a student. Some intelligent man you must be to get honorary degrees and have had free time as a student.
In any case, I'm eagerly awaiting to be enlightened and feel eternally grateful that you'll be able to spare some of those precious seconds of your highly important time.
Diemedes 1 month ago
@Diemedes :). nice.. i can take the sarcasm. I didn't mean to come off as a cock b4. just trying to say im pretty busy today but i will get back to your questions. Please hold caller.
pixelspring 1 month ago
@pixelspring Great, now I would like to join this conversation. I mean, you say stuff like you have all these degrees and an honor yet you still haven't explained those reasons in list form that Diemedes has such stated. I know, I know. Your a very busy man, and I don't doubt that. I'm just simply stating that even with all that knowledge you have, you can't defend your...shall we say..."cause" in this argument against which he said in list form. It's been a week, i'm sure it wont take long.
XxDeapAbyss 3 weeks ago
@pixelspring Maybe 2 minutes at most. I'm not arguing with you guys but I do wish to see an actual end to your argument and at this point it doesn't seem like neither of you will win if you don't stick to said argument. I'm actually thinking that if you don't take his so called list he made and prove him wrong, he won. I say you should criticize his list. You don't have to but it would be nice to see an argument finished with a victory. Your double his age, i'm sure you can do it.
XxDeapAbyss 3 weeks ago
@XxDeapAbyss . Yo XxDeapAbyss. Yeah I'm definitely replying. I'm hitting a deadline here. its pretty intense. Thanks for joining in. :). After this coming Monday things lighten up for me. - Then i have time for some fun stuff. The list is def worth a point wise rebuttal. Cheers . watch this space as they say. (pun intended )
pixelspring 3 weeks ago
@pixelspring
Oh, and one last thing: I will not tolerate absurdly long messages with bits and pieces of unrelated evidence and hundreds of references to books and non peer-reviewed journals - I want concise, to-the-point answers to my points and relevant references to peer-reviewed journals, or at least graphs and equations if it comes to an opinion of your own.
Don't worry, I'm not impatient. I said I'm waiting, not that I'm demanding an immediate answer. I know an attempt will take time.
Diemedes 1 month ago
the narrator's voice sounds gay
fuji2failo 2 months ago
2:53 thats an old computer LOL... probably windows 95 LOL
fuji2failo 2 months ago
that chick could ride my d...irt bike
XmojotronX 2 months ago
this video was made for mentally retarded children under age 12
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I just find it funny that most scientific people think that God isn't real just because you can't detect Him with any of your senses or that there is 100% evidence that He is there. And yet dark matter almot has the same definition and none of them have a problem accepting the concept, blows me away.
Caedus696 3 months ago
If aliens see this video they will never land on earth.
shifr3snak3 3 months ago 11
the girl on the bike is an astronomer???? What a life. How can that ever mix- it's like oil & water.
023flyer 3 months ago
Because galaxy rotations are caused by electricity and magnetism, not fabricated DM.
sjw40364a 3 months ago
@sjw40364a lol where did you get that idea from?
petem2010 2 months ago
The person who narrates this makes this interesting subject.. just.. plain stupid...
Debbie321lopez 3 months ago 12
@Debbie321lopez
Indeed. I have to admit I find these sort of things incredibly fascinating, but as others have stated, the way its presented makes me want to punch a baby and then jump off a roof top.
heyale10 2 months ago
@Debbie321lopez He's Canadian xP
crysisnov 3 weeks ago
@crysisnov That doesn't make this subject sound stupid! It just make you sound stupid for saying something as prejudice as that. Also were is the evidence that he is Canadian? Don't say its his accent because some people can be misconstrued as having a different accent.
XxDeapAbyss 2 weeks ago
@XxDeapAbyss lol, calm your tits xP First of all, it says he is from Canada from one of the previous videos. And most importantly, I was simply referring to "South Park", and how they generalize the view on Canadians. It was merely a joke, and obviously you didn't get it.
crysisnov 2 weeks ago
@crysisnov I don't care if you got that from graffiti on the back of a bus! I certainly don't think it was a joke and that's not the fact that I didn't get it, because I did get it. That "generalization" on Canadians is like the generalizations of black guys, gingers, American's, and even Norwegians such as yourself. It's prejudice. How would you like it if the only thing you saw on the internet was : Norwegians are all a bunch of viking idiots that live in igloos?
XxDeapAbyss 2 weeks ago
@XxDeapAbyss Dude, I think you are taking this a bit too serious.. It seems as if you are very excitable or sensitive about this. I would not care about any generalization of any kind of people, when it is merely meant as a joke. You could make fun about Norweigans, I wouldn't find it offensive.
crysisnov 2 weeks ago
So if dark matter is made of dark particles, since we can't see them does that mean they travel faster then light?
jewlzorjay 3 months ago
1:20 boob :P
Dudemar0 3 months ago
@Dudemar0 good find!
petem2010 2 months ago
could as well say that its because of this dark matter that the solar system's planets are moving slower than oter stars...and not the opposite..........
Shinigamib04 4 months ago
I saw the name 'BestOfScience' with 185 videos and thought awesome, I know how I'm spending my weekend. Then I got hung up on the guy with the weird speech patterns, and then the informational content of this video turned out to be rather close to zilch. Moving on...
CykciM 4 months ago
Polymorph from Red Dwarf @ 3:12
thetaken09 4 months ago
the girl on bike can ride me anytime. i'll feed her black hole my dark matter.
emwaver 4 months ago
km/s*km.. why'd you guys change it into m/s*km?
thechristophersean 4 months ago
The video "The Dark Matter Myth" from kikaledecuba, explain very well the Myth of the fictional concept of the Dark Matter.
Hector
kikaledecuba 4 months ago
He reminds me of james from team rocket: A FUCKING FAGGOT,
TheAgnostiic 4 months ago
damien ...pope.is weird //..:D
nilesh4018 5 months ago
I like how they look at stars... see a red shift, (meaning they are moving away) but forget that the light is VERY, VERY old and the stars are most likely doing something completely different now! All of our observations are of an older universe.
Arcknagar 5 months ago
shit
Collision5152 5 months ago
I have a theory for dark matter: THERE IS NONE!!!!
Einstein said that when objects move faster they gain mass. As it is commonly reported that galaxies are moving away from earth at so-and-so the percentage speed of light then there masses will increase too. That is where this "invisible" mass comes from. Case solved. Now give me my noble prize and my cheque. Thanks.
hplis 6 months ago
@hplis ok ill give u my penis
Herculass 6 months ago
@hplis Well, there is stuff that is "not lit up" LOL ...dark. They just take it a little too far and make it seem like some mystical material. NO... just dark! XD
Arcknagar 5 months ago
@hplis good thinking but wrong. one way mass is measured from great distance is how they interact gravitationally. additional energy would be the same as additional mass, and would be included in the estimate.
i had a hard time believing in dark matter too, this video is no help for sure... but it is now widely accepted. what convinced me finally was seeing the colliding galaxy time lapse... you can almost see the dark matter working.
emwaver 4 months ago
Alright, I see something wrong. They say that jupiter's orbit is cirrcular, when truely it is elliptical.
dandudes98 6 months ago
@dandudes98 they said "essentially". the ellipse of jupiter's orbit is so close to circular that, for this video, they decided to use the term "circular" instead. its only an approximation
me835 6 months ago
Has anyone done the calculation used in the video and got the same value because I get a completly different value for the mass of the sun. 8.792394e28
gringopistolero 6 months ago
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bulgarian1989 6 months ago 7
what the fuck was that faggot
bulgarian1989 6 months ago
Wtf is this shit? There hardly any mention of dark matter!
feararchetype 6 months ago
the fact that galaxies are held toguether might have something to do with dark matter, or, if that's obvious, it could act like a response force to the expansion of the universe? The universe expands around the galaxies. If it pushed them held in place, because space is creating around them. I dunno. Tell me why not, if there is one.
bakemonoshi 6 months ago
SandustanBrasov
And yet, we can see, we can visualize the ethereal matter. The scheme to one device for to visualize the ethereal matter: EXIST! And this device it can realize!
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sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
@sandustanBrasov i can do what you just did too. just string a bunch of sentences together, use the lingo, make bald claims and then not bother to back them up.
playadominical 4 months ago
• SandustanBrasov
The matter of the our terrestrial globe has four states of aggregation: solid, liquid, gseous and ethereal and not three after official science. The matter on which we see it, proceed from the ethereal matter, which from cancentration in concentration it had constituted in the electrons, in protons respectivel;y in the atoms of the chemical elements which had overtaken at the gaseous, liquid and solid state. All the matter on which we see it, is condensed ether.
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov
The PHYSICAL-CHEMICAL MATTER is the visible matter with free eye and is constituted from atoms of the chemical elements. The PHYSICAL-ETHEREAL MATTER is a matter with atoms more small with 7..8 order of dimension than the atoms of chemical elements, and the bodies formed from this matter are invisible for the human eye. The ETHEREAL PHYSICS it occupy with the study of the ethereal matters, but which was abandoned in the XX century, because in 1905 A.Einstein excludes the ether
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov But the ETHER is a physical reality constituted from a very small matter, invisible for human eye, and is formed from atoms more small with 7...8 order of dimension than the atoms of the chemical elements. The matter of the ether penetrate in all the visible bodies and is the physical matter which fills both the interplanetary space and the interatomic space. The ether is a matter with mass and weigth, being subdued and she the action of the universal attraction law.
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
OMG! That guy is so creepy! damn!
FamilyRoyalty 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov
Through the relativity theory to Einstein of over century, it hold with strenght -as a conspiracy a general activity of intellectual stultify of the planetary population. from relativity theory proceed the notion of: singularity, Big bang, black holes and holes of worm. From 1905 and till now in 2011, the disciples of the Einstein, preach with contumely as scientific elements of high class these theoretical confusions, these absurdities from which they had made a business...
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov
The science has and history. In the Fundamental Principle of Democrit(470..380BC) it show:"From nothing nothing's born, nothing that exist can not be destroyed and any transformation consist from a reunion and separation...Out of atoms and ether. all rest is not otherwise than rationament and not exist...The spirit as well as the ether consist of a small and spherical atoms, very mobile, atoms that their movement form the phenomenon of life".
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov
It popularize the fantastical theories and stantardized theories with which it terrorize the inhabitants the Earth, after what Einstein with relativity theory had blocked the science of the century XX. Sptephen Hawking and roger Penrose had demonstrated in 1967 that the black holes proceed from the relativity theory.How it can conceive and it can say that the heart of the one black hole is a gravitational singularity whose volume tend to zero and whose mass tend to infinite?
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov
The notion of dark matter and dark energy proceed from theoretical physics, from relativity theory of the A. Einstein, from the mistaken interpretation of the physical reality. Something exist indeed: and matter and energy; but is the much ethereal matter and the her energys from the her frame. Dark energy and cosmic acceleration are a failure of relativity of the Einstein.
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
• SandustanBrasov In 1905, A.Einstein conclude that the ether hasn't a correspondent in reality and constitute not a medium which let can serve as reference system. Thus Einstein renounced to the ether notion and absolute space and emits the two restricted relativity principles. By it content the second principle excludes the ether, impose as limit of bodies' movement - the light speed - and denatured completely the classic dynamics reality.
sandustanBrasov 7 months ago
:))))))))))
merridius2006 7 months ago
@1:12---nice ass
charliesechos 7 months ago
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charliesechos 7 months ago
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these actors are great!!!
bryanmessina 7 months ago
And that's how science sounds if you read it from an autocue. The guy should take lessons from Jim Parsons.
GlueRman 7 months ago
Black holes?....
MrMazerman 7 months ago
thx for these vids , not physics guy but like it
bananajug1 8 months ago
3:17
RUBIKS CUBE!!!!!!!! YEAH!!
GiaIsTheBest 8 months ago
mommy that guy comfused me with science
dingo596 8 months ago
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@dingo596 shut up nigger!
SEVENFLORES 7 months ago
maybe the matter is there. it's reaching us through time before light. maybe there's variables affecting gravity we don't know about. maybe the magnitisim of the black holes is so strong it's pulling everything around it like it's on a string.
BadderNgod 8 months ago
They're lucky this video was interesting otherwise it would've been a straight thumbs down - weird narrator/actress.
coolgr33k 8 months ago
How did they figure out the mass of Jupiter? we were trying to work out how to caculate Masses and they just assumed Jupiters mass :(
Typho0n86 8 months ago 2
theres no way that guys human.
ferr3t 8 months ago
this is not important how fast stars are moving,becouse they all creating the same centrifugal forse,becouse they moving together with dark matter.Only move thrue dark matter can create biggest centrifugal forse
DARKMATTERTIME 8 months ago
ok so by bunch of numbers they can calculate everything...OK but how did they get to the conclusion they are doing it the right way ? they cant know whats inside of the planet ???
predvcecerom 9 months ago
@predvcecerom they can use the number to calculate things that we CAN measure
damandatwin 9 months ago
@predvcecerom by watching the way planets interact with eachother through gravity they can determine it's mass. and they can use arsorbsion spectres to say what elements and combounds they consist of.
nybotheveg 8 months ago
5:30
is it me or he has a super long neck and skweeky voice?
omri9325 9 months ago
I'll see you on the dark side of the matter...
NtropyPyroductions 9 months ago
what does this have to do with dark matter?
ChinnuWoW 9 months ago 2
I can't say i have seen something similar in my life.
The size of the brightness was incredible huge!
Rhynorune 9 months ago
Right now i saw something very huge and bright in the night sky in Norway which looked like a bright star very close to the earth.
I wanted my dad to come look at it but only after some seconds the brightness became much weaker since the first time i saw it and then it became very small and suddenly moved away.
Rhynorune 9 months ago
this guy looks like a carrot + plus his voice is a melt
enzorussian 10 months ago
Who else would tap that Asian physicist?
SpecialFester 10 months ago
They were kinda fast on the math part didn´t get it :(
Pilooogen 10 months ago
20 people are afraid of the dark...
jimiemaan 10 months ago
Was Dark Matter even mentioned in this video?
arulius74 10 months ago
is that guy gay ? or does he just like stars -,-
CLEnforcer 11 months ago
fuck me. what a stupid video
dano132454 11 months ago
That guy is really excited to be measuring mass...
nhmllr725 11 months ago 3
@nhmllr725 ... a quite common phenomenon. And then gets bored unexpectedly fast, when the objects start to magically shapeshift into totally different objects. He must be from some insane paralell universe.
Ypthor 11 months ago
Is it really bloody necessary to have those stupid actors in there??
Kainlarsen 11 months ago 69
@Kainlarsen yes..we need the hot Asian chick
trentcreek 8 months ago
@trentcreek I'll give you that one...:D
Also, what is wrong with the narrator? Is he an alien?
Kainlarsen 8 months ago
@Kainlarsen Worse..He is Canadian
trentcreek 8 months ago
@Kainlarsen Actors gotta find work somewhere. :P
Kotherful 8 months ago
:| ..... how can galaxies move their stars at the same speed, if they're spiral shape? come on, they wouldn't be spiral shaped if all moved at the same rate.....
bbphnix 11 months ago
@bbphnix - I believe that the supermassive black holes at the center of the galaxies suck in matter in a swirling vortex, impacting the rest of the stellar gas and stars surrounding it, giving the rest of the galaxy it's spiral shape. Eventually the speed of matter swirling into the event horizon is so intense that it creates stellar winds which blow the surrounding gas away fro the hole, ending it's feeding cycle but leaving the momentum of the swirl it began to affect the rest of the galaxy.
morpheusxnyc 11 months ago
@bbphnix AFAIK, spiral galaxies only look like a spiral, but the bright "arms" aren't moving at all, they're just areas of accelerated stellar formation. They're brighter because they contain more (and bluer) stars. Now, what triggers stellar formation, that should be interesting...
This is all old info, which sorta came in bits and pieces when I read your comment; there might be newer discoveries relating to spiral galaxies.
StrikaAmaru 10 months ago
There is something that I don't understand about this series:
Why would dark matter make it so that all the stars spin around the center of the galaxy with the same speed? Wouldn't a greater mass throughout the whole galaxy and beyond just increase the speed of all stars according to the gravitational law? That way, the stars still have a difference in speed depending on their distance to the center..
Other than that, a great documentary!
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timboardin 11 months ago
why in the hell did i have to waste my life watching a guy drink orange juice throughout the video?
daveyman54321 11 months ago
how these videos are filmed is pretty weird.
but it is interesting.
gustavth1 11 months ago 49
@gustavth1 it's so corny haha
cieltsd 9 months ago
Dykes on Bikes
Gotta Love it !!
glasseay 11 months ago
music is annoying, guy is annoying
Chisuz 11 months ago
Narrorator's voice is irratating... He lip syncs too much as well.
Next- how does this relate to dark matter??
I don't want the know the mass of the fucking sun, I came here hoping to listen to dark matter
Giddo11 11 months ago
@Giddo11 the show is called dark matter
FIGHTFANNERD3 11 months ago
@Giddo11 I didn't know dark matter made noise
jnthnbush 11 months ago
space is a ocean :))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))))) gravity is a hole in the space made by matter ..and when you made hole where go the substance from the hole? .. in the hill or dark matter but is not matter is same oposit thing :D gravity-anti gravity :) ..dark matter is a hill of emty space or empty space with hight pressure ... my mistake this is dark energy :) :D dark matter is inertia of hole ..gravity without matter like dopler effect.. light and electro-magnetism is waves in this ocean
ivosuper 11 months ago
is dark matter and antimatter the same thing?
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LesspulpTeam 1 year ago
Anyway, Isn't it funny that we calculate the mass of everyday items [weight(Newtons) / Gravitational acceleration(m/s^2) = grams and that's not even right], and actually measure the mass of stellar objects?
(No, the kitchens scale doesn't measure mass. It measures weight => Force)
loupax 1 year ago
@loupax The scale is the problem. The bigger the scale the more precise your measurements will be. For example, if you want to mix two liquids 1:1000 you can be very precise if the unit is tons. Not so if you'd switch the unit to micrograms.
MillyVanillification 11 months ago
OMG... I think I'm in love with an asian astronomer...
loupax 1 year ago
Dark matter is what controls 20% of the universe bit what controls it does it really exist can it be heard or seen or felt
jjoshy111 1 year ago
@jjoshy111 If it exists and we can't detect it of course it really exists...but is there another explanation for the increased speeds around galaxies? That's a much better question I think.. then the other question is there another explanation for dark energy ?
HolidayNova 1 year ago
@HolidayNova A much better explanation would be that gravity is not the only thing that makes things move. There are so many other possibilities, such as a plasma based universe, that are better than inventing fairy dust like dark matter. The physicists keep saying it's there because we can see the effects just like we can't see the wind but we see it's effects. The truth is that there are many other forces that can produce the same effect as "wind" ;)
eli7j 11 months ago
@jjoshy111 it could be felt
FIGHTFANNERD3 11 months ago
the matter in our universe had to come from some where. Matter cannot be created nor destroyed, only changed from one form to another, and I am saying that black holes process the mass that falls into it to make dark matter, and the Dark Matter Universe could a Bose-Einstein Condensate, and during the Big Bang was released into the universe as we now know it, See video for domo.
gaynorglowellxsingh 1 year ago
Not a mystery when one notes that charged particles are effected by magnetic fields. Planets and stars within the envelope of the black holes immense electromagnetic field move at the same speed because they match the black holes rotation. All objects in the galaxy are microscopic compared to the black hole in the center. Each object is like a charged particle. Black hole have immense magnetic fields or they would not produce energy jets at each pole. Other evidence is found to supports this.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
Dark Matter = Trade Surplus
SpaceTime = Stock Exchange
heartlessvietboy 1 year ago
"...educational journey..." and I'm out.
EddieFivespeed 1 year ago
@EddieFivespeed too cool to learn.
AnThOnYrox8 1 year ago
This title is misleading. Most of us already know how to calculate the mass of stars thru the orbital method. It's common knowledge, we are more interested in why the speed of stars orbit at a constant.
DeviousBetrayer 1 year ago
Good christ this is cheesy. Still, what little meat there is to it is cool.
AleximusMaximus 1 year ago
This was clearly made for an American audience. It's aimed at people with an intellectual age of five!
CombatRocks 1 year ago
I'd hit the gorgeous Asian babe at any universal length :)
dilibau 1 year ago
He did NOT answer the question! WTF, clearly cause they don't know
dobberdoss 1 year ago
@dobberdoss maybe you could hit up the website and watch the WHOLE VIDEO rather than commenting on a small portion of it.
TheBetterGame 1 year ago
Jesus..! What Chuck Norris would do?
justjustify85 1 year ago
I was waiting for the reason of why the stars were moving so fast despite the distance and instead, I got lectures on the mass of the sun. It did not answer the question!
RerailMe 1 year ago
this video is creepy
Nestapoke 1 year ago
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Maybe a possible explanation for difficulty in detecting the dark matter on earth is the relative Size and Scale in order for them to be effective.
A good example: the graviton particle, under the scale of sub-atomic level it has almost puny to no effect on other particles, but gravitons(responsible for gravity) have huge effects on the scale of cosmic size matter such as star, planets, galaxies..etc.
The dark matter could be something that works relatively in large(Comic) scale only.
lloran7 1 year ago
Where was a mention of Fritz Swicky? And Vera Rubins' work was posted in the 80's What happened to Louise Volders and her work in 1959 -
I like the Graphics The Content lost its focus and was not as historically accurate as I would have liked.... 2/10
astrophysisman 1 year ago
If it was dark matter that kept the speed of stars constant?
They all know that dark energy is the energy that speeds up the expansion of the universe,
I can't prove it mathematically but I think they will find dark energy as the cause of the constant speed, at no matter what orbit.
You have to look at which there is more of: dark energy or dark matter, er dark energy wins out hands down. Since there is more of dark energy chances are in dark energy favor.
raypsi 1 year ago
Abstract: Possibly the problem here can be solved if all the matter that resides within each galaxy comes from their respected central black hole. The orbital speed of those stars are then determined by the rotational speed of the black hole which created the matter. Similar to throwing balls out of a spinning spacecraft. The balls would have the spin momentum of the spacecraft. As long as there is no physical interference the balls in orbit about the spacecraft would all have the same speed.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger That hypothesis has a couple major problems; first, matter coming out of a black hole is, as far as we know, almost impossible. Second, that doesn't explain how the stars are maintaining stable orbits. Objects farther away from a body should orbit it more slowly or their speed will take them out of orbit. If Pluto orbited the sun at the same speed as Mercury, it would go flying out into deep space... but the outer-rim stars in galaxies seem to be stable.
Hooya2 1 year ago
@Hooya2 Then explain if matter cannot escape a black hole then why are nearly all the stars in our Milky Way moving away from the central black hole? If time were reversed the stars would move closer to the black hole. Some astrophysicists claim that their finding show that the black hole located in the core of our galaxy is older than all the stars within it. Plus the outer orbiting stars are the oldest in the galaxy. If their ages were plotted against their movement all would be..
GateMessenger 1 year ago
.. shown to be born from the black hole. Yet nothing is suppose to be able to escape a black hole. The black hole is the tree of life as the Maya claimed. Gravity was suppose to also cause the universe's expansion to slow down then to cause a big crunch; but observations showed the universe is inflating. When the cause of gravity is found it will explain everything, even why the universe is inflating and why Saturn's outer rings are younger than the inner rings.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger Could you cite your sources? The only source I could find, an article by SEDS (if you google Milky Way Galaxy it's the second hit, after wiki), says the opposite, that the central bulge contains older stars and the arms are younger. I've never heard that most stars in the Milky way are moving away from the center--I thought most of them were in stable orbits around it. Distant GALAXIES are moving away from us and from each other, perhaps you confused the two?
Hooya2 1 year ago
@Hooya2 lol, give sources, on YouTube? Yeah right, you can't post proper links + I did not keep track of every source over the last 15 years of research. If you can't find the info by using Google then you don't know what key words to use. Try "which came first, black hole or galaxies".
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger I tried googling what you asked me to, and all of the hits were about a study that showed black holes form before galaxies. None of them back up your claims that matter comes out of black holes, that stars aren't in stable orbits, or that stars in the arms are older than stars in the center. Did you google this yourself before telling me to? I don't appreciate having my time wasted...
Hooya2 1 year ago
@Hooya2 How is your time wasted? You are wasting my time by asking questions you could answer by using Google. Oh yeah, you do not know what to look for. Please, don't bother me if you do not understand. I have been a research scientist for more than 15 years. I understand perfectly. A word of advice, don't be fooled by the best guess or speculation (theory). Always remember the facts, the physical data. This will help you better understand future observations.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger A research scientist that gets angry when politely asked to cite a source? Hah. Lying to set yourself up as an authority is pathetic. On top of that, it's pointless; if you can't back up your claims with evidence, it doesn't matter what occupation you say you're in.
I've used Google, and the evidence I found contradicts you (remember that SEDS article?) The source you cited doesn't support you. I can't use Google? No, you're bullshitting and I'm calling you out.
Hooya2 1 year ago
@Hooya2 I was not trying to make myself look like an authoritative figure. I was merely trying to show you I am not a novice to research. Please, if you want to learn something then research it without bias info from someone else. I did say remember the facts not the theory, I was trying to be nice, now you can leave me alone.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger If you want to show you're not a novice to research, then show me some research. All you've done so far is make claims and not back them up when challenged.
Hooya2 1 year ago
@Hooya2 I have played this childish insult to show importance game before. It does not end very well. Telling me to back my claims is like calling me a liar for you don't believe. Where does this go if I am able to back my claims 100%? Then how would you look in this conservation? Please be nice & discuss opinions or questions you may have. BTW, the oldest star in our Milky Way was discovered & documented in the journal Nature. It is located near the outer edge of the galaxy not near the core.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
.. Young stars were found to be orbiting near the black hole Sgr a. I wonder when by the nebula theory how is it that Saturn's outer rings are the youngest, according to Cassini spectrograph reading of the ring debris. The rings nearest to Saturn were found to be saturated with dirty ice while the outer ring was comprised of clean ice. This is evidence that the outer rings are new and the inner rings are old. This data does not conform to the Nebula theory on how our solar system formed.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
... If the Nebula theory was correct, via accretion, as the debris collected the outer rings would have been saturated with more debris than the inner rings yet this is contrary to physical observations. So the outer rings appear to be younger than the inner ones. My idea on what causes gravity predicted Saturn's young rings. My idea contradicts the law of thermodynamics where it states that energy cannot be created. This is why it is not published, yet when you insert gravity as the work force
GateMessenger 1 year ago
.... in the formula for thermodynamics heat is produced by the pressure of mass upon itself. Heat is energy and thus is being created freely. When gravity is the work force it produces energy without effort. This is the missing link to understanding what is causing gravity in the first place. For every action there is an opposite and equal reaction. The reaction to gravity can be seen by the sun's opposite action of solar wind. Gravity then is the complementary force of the solar wind.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
..... So gravity is the result when new energy is created at the cores of objects large enough to produce energy via the pressure of mass upon itself. This is why the graviton was not detected in particle accelerators. Gravity does not appear until new energy is created. This is the evidence needed to explain why the universe is inflating between every galaxy. New energy created acts like air bubbles forcing all objects away from one another while still attracting smaller objects that do not
GateMessenger 1 year ago
...... yet show the effect of gravity.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
Yes, I said predicted. When you note that particle collisions create 1.022MeV of energy, then with conservation needs only 1.022Mev to transform into 2 elementary particles. This energy is being created via radiation. The heat at the core of our sun is so intense it causes nuclear fission. Radiation is the key to particle creation against an EM front. This is why matter forms on a disk plane around stars and radioactive planets such as all the Jovian planets. As the energy increases over time
GateMessenger 1 year ago
from accretion it directly causes jumps in wavelengths making the distance where new matter forms to be located further away. Thus this is why the Jovian planets have newly forming debris rings. This would imply that the rings will increase as time passes and the newest ones will form further away from the surface.
When inserting gravity as the work force in thermodynamics it answers many questions. It even answers the biggest question in physics, what causes gravity. peace.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger As for the rest of this crap, it's like you haven't listened to anything I've said. If you actually have sources for young stars orbiting close to the center of the galaxy, then cite them. Simply rephrasing your claim doesn't make it more plausible.
Hooya2 1 year ago
@GateMessenger I don't take the word of random strangers as infallible; what part of that is insulting or calling you a liar? And if you do back your claims up 100%, then I'll admit I was wrong, and then we can have a meaningful discussion.
A quick Google search shows that the oldest star known in our galaxy is HE 1523-0901, documented in Astrophysical Journal Letters. It's a halo star--meaning it's not on the edge of our galaxy, but off the orbital plane entirely.
Hooya2 1 year ago
@Hooya2 No, the oldest star does not contain heavy metals HE0107-5240 as theorized by the formation of the early universe. It is located on the outer rim of the galaxy and I believe is older than HE 1523-0901. Since it is difficult to determine the age of stars by size and distance then measuring the contents of the material which make up a star best determines it.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger First, you seem to be correct that HE0107-5240 is older (Google isn't infallible). I compared the two papers (Discovery of HE 1523–0901, a Strongly r-Process-enhanced Metal-poor Star with Detected Uranium, and Is HE 0107-5240 A Primordial Star? The Characteristics of Extremely Metal-Poor Carbon-Rich Stars). They both did metallicity studies and 0107 had a lower value--although it still had SOME metals. Problem is, it's rather a moot point, because 0107 is ALSO in the halo.
Hooya2 1 year ago
Answer me this, why is the universe inflating between every galaxy? Does gravity push as well as pull? Note the moons slow movement away from the earth. Could the same action that is causing the galaxies to inflate away from one another be the same action causing the space between the moon and earth to inflate? Please don't recite the current theory, It does not work. Inflation should be found akin to every gravitational object. The earth will soon be found to be slowly moving away from the sun.
GateMessenger 1 year ago
@GateMessenger I see a lot of red herrings, but still no sources for your claims. Why is the universe inflating? Don't know, but that has nothing to do with this discussion. We know why the moon is moving away from the earth--earth's rotation is slowing towards a tidal lock with the moon, and the energy is driving the moon into a higher orbit. Contrary to your claim, this theory accounts for it quite well.
Hooya2 1 year ago